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[ - ] NYC real estate question: I so enjoyed the conversation about the woman who was trying to do a FSBO, but I'm curious about one thing, why do you all call what in the rest of the country would be a condo an apartment? Is it because you own stock in the coop, not the unit itself? 13 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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New York City 06.24.08, 06:37 PM Flag
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Condo is different than coop. Coops are shares in a building. Condo is outright ownership of a unit [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:45 PM Flag
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This is a weird question. We had condos and coops in Pittsburgh and I used to call my condo my apartment all the time. I don't think this is a NY phenomenon. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:49 PM Flag
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condo is a form of ownership (like co-op) and while some have preferences for valid reasons, many of us, when we "house-hunt" in NYC are looking for an apartment to purchase, without regard to the legal form of ownership [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:52 PM Flag
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No, what I was asking is why do you all seem to refer to your owned apartments as apartments instead of condo? Where I live, if you said apartment, people would assume you rent, instead they would say condo, but that doesn't seem to be the case in NYC. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:52 PM Flag
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^^^ everywhere I've lived only rentals were referred to as apartments. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:53 PM Flag
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While that mey be what you've encountered and what is implied where you've lived, in reality, an apartment isn't actually just for rental and a condo can be a townhouse and is not the only form of ownership for multi-tenant owned living. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:56 PM Flag
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Poster above - Where do you live? I've lived in 7 states and owned or rented apartments in all and never differentiated b/w calling them apartments and condo and it was never an issue. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:54 PM Flag
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I've lived in Chicago, St. Louis, DC, and Austin. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:55 PM Flag
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Weird, b/c I've lived in St. Louis and DC and always referred to the condo I owned in St. Louis as my apartment as did other people I knew. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:57 PM Flag
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I worked in real estate while living in St. Louis, and I never have... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:59 PM Flag
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NP: everyone in NYC says "my apartment" regardless of whether they rent or own. The people who say "my house" own townhouses or are recent moves [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:54 PM Flag
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uh, no. I am a born and bred nyer (Manhatttan), and I've always said "house" about our rental apartment. It's only non-natives who think this is weird. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 01:10 AM Flag
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because in manhattan 99% of people live in some type of building with other people living in it. Only the very wealthy (or lucky inherited) live in single-family homes. So apartment is just used interchagably with condo or coop. To say "I live in a condo/coop" would sound like you were trying to make sure the person know you owned and weren't renting...it would would sound pretentious. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:57 PM Flag
[ - ] Bullying happens in public schools too. 15 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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New York City 06.24.08, 06:35 PM Flag
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did someone say that it doesn't? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:36 PM Flag
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I'm feeling like that's the emerging implication of the other thread about middle-class families attending private schools. The thread is scaring me because we are a MC family (if anything, lower MC) switching to a private on major FA in the fall. But then I keep realizing--there is bullying at dd's current public too. :-( [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:38 PM Flag
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Different kinds of bullying. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:50 PM Flag
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IME - often more. It is a really issue everywhere, though [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:41 PM Flag
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omg, part of the difference is teachers have to deal w.it in public school -- no one gets counseled out. but kids are kids, public or private. it's a universal truth. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:47 PM Flag
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np--In private schools there are more adults in relationships with students. There are teachers in the playground at recess who know every child by name. In my dc's school teachers and children eat lunch together. I think it's harder for bullying to happen in this kind of situation. I've passed my neighborhood school during recess and seen kids crying alone and no one (adult or child) coming to comfort them or ask what's wrong. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:53 PM Flag
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NP: In my NYC public school, the teacher eats with the kids and is in the play yard [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:55 PM Flag
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through 5th grade? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:57 PM Flag
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np in my nyc public lunch ladies wander around and yell at the kids. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 07:03 PM Flag
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yes, that will def help minimze bullying [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 07:04 PM Flag
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which, mean lunch ladies or teachers who don't get a break all day? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 07:05 PM Flag
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at our public, the assistant teachers have lunch with the dcs. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 07:07 PM Flag
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Private school teachers get breaks, but they are also in the playground at recess. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 07:09 PM Flag
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I'm the one who posted that there are different kinds of bullying at public and private schools. Generally the ones at public school are in the younger grades and the ones at private school are in the older grades. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:55 PM Flag
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when i said teachers have to 'deal with it' i should have said 'live with it.' the kids don't get moved out, so the bullies stay. ITTA with you about private. it's all about the student/teacher ratio. this is why we're leaving public for private. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 07:00 PM Flag
[ - ] If we move there, will my dd really be the only jew her in bronxville kindergarten class? 18 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:34 PM Flag
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i worry about the same thing. starting at EC in the fall. we are non-jewish, and I wonder how that will play out over the years. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:39 PM Flag
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EC is totally diverse in religion - there will be kids of all religions there!! For sure. We know lots and lots of families there, it should NOT be a problem [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:44 PM Flag
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np: but the majority is jewish, and bar/bat mitzvah time is hard for the non-Jewish kids. actually I think the predominant culture is Jewish, and if you are not part of that, you want to be. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:50 PM Flag
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I thought EC was for recovering Jews who thought a traditional deity-based religion was bunk? The intelligentsia? Or has it gone Republican since my day? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 07:35 PM Flag
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naw...rich and faux crunchy with lots of jewish tradition and culture. veering toward jappy these days. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 08:01 PM Flag
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EC is NOT majority Jewish. It's about 1/3 Jewish. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 07:21 AM Flag
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Please. The majority of kids in our UWS public are Jewish too. I was surprised we were one on a handful of non-Jewish families in our class. We survived. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 07:21 AM Flag
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We are at FL and our class is 1/3 Jewish, nearly 2/3 christian, and two hindu children. Our class is also slightly more than 1/3 black. I don't think you would worry about your white child being a minority, so you don't have to worry about your christian child being a minority either. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 07:19 AM Flag
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Are you serious? This is NY. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:42 PM Flag
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nope. my stepcousin is Jewish and lives in Bronxville, has three daughters (though I guess technically they are not jewish b/c his wife isn't but the girls are half jewish and have a jewish last name). They are very happy there. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:42 PM Flag
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I seriously doubt it, and I also don't think kids care [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:44 PM Flag
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Then move to Scarsdale ;) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:48 PM Flag
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That's so terrifying...what kind of parent are you! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:48 PM Flag
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I'm surprised at the answers here. When we were thinking of moving to Westchester we looked at Bronxville and our realtor was very clear that while there are Jewish families, they are the kind, in her words, who pretend they are not. She did not think a family that went to holiday services, planned to have a bar mitzvah etc. would feel comfortable there. She suggested Pelham Manor, which has similar houseing stock, and excellent school district and a smiliarly easy commute to the city. The Jewish community there is small, but there is a local active temple. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 07:24 AM Flag
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Thanks for this thoughtful, realistic post. I'm not OP, but am considering moving to Westchester and wondered if things had changed. When I grew up in Scarsdale 30 years ago, Bronxville had virtually no Jewish families. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 12:27 PM Flag
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oh, no! No Jews? The horror! Your kid is going to suffer, suffer, suffer!!!! Dude, get a grip! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 07:30 AM Flag
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Bronxville mom here - she definitely will not be at all. Things are changing in the square mile and i've found the school pleasantly more diverse every year. (the elementary school that is, not so much the preschool we go to) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 07:40 AM Flag
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where do you go to preschool? I heard the one at Sarah Lawrence is amazing and very diverse. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 12:00 PM Flag
[ - ] Friend just told me that in her dc's small, no-name preschool TWO children got into Anderson for K (non-sibs). Isn't that strange? 34 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 06.24.08, 06:33 PM Flag
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Why would that be strange? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:37 PM Flag
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Well, in the whole city to have two out of 50 from one school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:38 PM Flag
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^^We didn't get in and it was our FC so maybe I am a bit jealous [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:39 PM Flag
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we are from a small no name preschool. 2 kids, 2 years in a row. many smart kids there though. not strange at all. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:38 PM Flag
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It was a lotto of high scoring dc - they were lucky - not strange at all. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:39 PM Flag
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Hi - we are one of those two. Do I know you? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:40 PM Flag
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people in no name schools more likely to seek public school options [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:44 PM Flag
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ITA! DH and I went to Ivy League schools and our kids will most likely be bright kids in public in NYC or the suburbs so we don't need a name preschool. I assume the 92nd St Y is a wonderful program, but it's would be a waste of money for us. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 06:27 AM Flag
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and the fact that you and DH went to Ivy League schools has exactly what to do with sending your child to a no-name preschool? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 10:07 AM Flag
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Exactly, very few kids from the TT preschools even bother with the G&T process. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 06:28 AM Flag
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2 my in DD's small co-op school got into A also. 1 sib, 1 non-sib. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 07:02 PM Flag
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my dd--the one whose teacher cheated--only one who got into A in her class. others didn't know G & T testing was an option. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 07:31 PM Flag
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I heard of TWO families in ONE building on Roosevelt Island got into A. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 09:05 PM Flag
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What are the odds of that! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 04:27 AM Flag
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I know them. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 10:08 AM Flag
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I know them too. Maybe we all know each other... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 03:45 PM Flag
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and they both went to the same preschool. I wonder if they are the same. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 01:32 PM Flag
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It happens. One year there were 4 kids who got into Anderson from our non-TT preschool. Another year 4 kids got into Hunter. It depends. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 09:08 PM Flag
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That's obscene, the concept of a TT preschool. Preschool is to learn how to sit in a circle, share toys, stand in line. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 02:47 AM Flag
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La Escuelita, a "no-name" preschool has routinely had kids get into Anderson and Hunter (old process and new). How narrow of you to think that just kids whose parents calculate which are the "good" preKs are the smart kids... In my dc's classes, there were kids from headstarts, too! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 03:57 AM Flag
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my dd, at a daycare preschool made 2nd round hunter. didn't get citywide, but was eligible. it's about IQ people, not prep. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 04:38 AM Flag
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Not really. How many kids that never went to preschool and were parked in front of TV every day got in? I bet none at all, regardless of IQ. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 06:30 AM Flag
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Our dd got into A (non-sib); no-name preschool. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 04:47 AM Flag
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Lesson: It is the STUDENT and NOT the school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 09:55 AM Flag
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OP: My point was NOT the no-name preschool BUT the odds of two children from the same school getting in to A when they only take 50 kids citywide. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 10:53 AM Flag
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if that was the case why did you have to mention that it was a no-name school? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 11:10 AM Flag
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OP: You're right. I guess there was no point to that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 11:12 AM Flag
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since this is UB of course the majority will focus on the fact that it is not a TT preschool [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 11:16 AM Flag
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Lol - ita [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 12:42 PM Flag
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Where was the preschool (i.e., which neighborhood)? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 12:53 PM Flag
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I think OP was referring to the Roosevelt Island families. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 01:13 PM Flag
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Why is that strange? Smart kids go to no-name schools. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 01:14 PM Flag
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It's just statistics. If you actually calculated the odds, I bet you'd find it's almost impossible for there to NOT be at least one preschool that has two dc's admitted to Anderson. If you were to look at random probability, it would be a lot less likely for the acceptances to be spread out so that there is exactly one admit at 50 different schools and no double admits. You just happen to know one of the schools that got two. It's like the famous "birthday problem" in statistics. What seems very unlikely on the surface is actually very likely based on the way probabilities work. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 06:25 PM Flag
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One school, which isn't even a no name preschool it is something short of preschool, has 2 kids going to Hunter this year. these things happen. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 07:17 PM Flag
[ - ] I have a part-time nanny who works for us two days a week. She has been working for our family for 1 1/2 years. I normally do not pay holidays or days that she calls in and doesn't come to work. I know that she is not happy with her situation for the other woman she works for. She voiced that she should find a full-time job so she can get benefits. What benefits do nannies get? What do you think is reasonable for someone who works for you two days a week? I want to be fair, but also don't want to be taken advantage of because I know it's never enough. TIA. 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:29 PM Flag
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Usually a week or two paid vacation, and a week sick leave... But for only 2 days a week, I don't think that you're being unfair... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:33 PM Flag
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I found that if you want to retain a good nanny. You follow a pay-or-play policy. That means when you go on vacation, you pay them and you give them at least a week of vacation (which they agree to try to coordinate with you). You pay sick days and public holidays (and don't cheap out on MLK day) etc. This is what it takes to hold on to good full-time help, and I know (2 kids) that it's even harder to hold on to part time help. If she's good, you've been gettin away with murder. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 07:58 PM Flag
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^^as a result of these policies I've found my nanny and babysitter never call in sick, go out of their way to help me with cleaning, cooking, etc. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 08:01 PM Flag
[ - ] what do I do if my 20 months old just refuses to drink milk. Don't they need at that age. She was never big on it and now that I switched to a cup (which she's been using for months with anything else but milk) she is either boycotting it or is just dome with milk. 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 06.24.08, 06:28 PM Flag
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my 20 mo old will only drink milk from a bottle. he drinks everything else from sippy, straw, waterbottle with spout, etc. he took a few sips of milk from a straw a couple days ago. that seemed to work. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:34 PM Flag
[ - ] I'll probably be flamed for this, but I would like to splurge and buy a great pair of maternity jeans this time around. Any suggestions on brands or places/sites to shop...or any other advice? 11 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Expecting 06.24.08, 06:27 PM Flag
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Just have a pair of your regualar jeans made into maternity jeans. Then buy new ones (which you can wear much longer than 6 mos) post pg. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:28 PM Flag
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You may want to go a size or two up from your regular jeans if you do this. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:30 PM Flag
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Poster below - Definitely - the woman at Belly Dance convinced me to buy a size up and at first I was annoyed that the jeans were big (and a bigger size) but now at 7 months I'm so glad I followed her advice. She said she sees a lot of women spend $200 on a pair of jeans at 3 months and come back at 6 to buy a bigger size. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:39 PM Flag
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Pea in the Pod [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:28 PM Flag
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Why would you be flamed? First thing I did was buy a pair of Paige Premium Denim maternity jeans - TOTALLY worth it. I got mine at Belly Dance. Pea in the Pod (and the one in Macy's) have a lot too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:30 PM Flag
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Gap maternity jeans are cheap but look good and are comfortable. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:32 PM Flag
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ITD - Gap jeans cannot compare to premium demin jeans. If you want to go cheap, get Gap or Old Navy, but don't expect them to look as good as the $150+ jeans. I say go ahead and splurge. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:34 PM Flag
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habitual makes ones without the elastic panel - you can get them at cadeau in NYC. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:38 PM Flag
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i got a pair of Paper Denim and Cloth maternity jeans one or two sizes larger than my normal size and an AG denim skirt one size up. the jeans stopped fitting at 30 weeks. But they were so worth it - the Maternal America jeans I got were comfy, but didn't look nearly as good! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:41 PM Flag
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Do wht you got to do to get through! A good pair of maternity jeans you will wear for a while, then sell them on ebay or pass them on. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:53 PM Flag
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belly dance maternity has the best selection [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.29.08, 08:26 AM Flag
[ - ] I hate my summer neighbor. My brother and I inherited a family summer house on the Cape (me 75% him 25% long story)this piece of work come into our yard when my brother and his family are there and when she finds out I'm not there she asks him if he owns the house. I mean who does this? I wouldn't be this nosy in a million years. She lets her 3 y/o son run all over our yard despite the fact that my youngest is 7 and not a good age for her ds. Sorry - vent over. 6 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:25 PM Flag
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we just sold our summer property for this very reason [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:35 PM Flag
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op:really - obnoxious neighbor? I'm trying to keep her at bay by growing taller hedges but it's painfully slow. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:40 PM Flag
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how about a fence? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:42 PM Flag
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We can't - everything has to go by the "Historic District Commission" No fences, sadly. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:47 PM Flag
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obnoxious drunk neighbors. we just could not enjoy ourselves anymore. the lot was super small and now we are looking for someing with more privacy [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:44 PM Flag
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ita. If we ever get ourselves moved out of there (lots of baggage because it was my parents place) privacy will be a priority. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:49 PM Flag
[ - ] Do many schools still do tracking? In Brooklyn? G & T seems to me to be tracking, why has it fallen out of favor with the below 90% crowd? 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 06.24.08, 06:25 PM Flag
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Progressive education influence + the idea that ability tracking makes academically less able kids feel bad about themselves + the idea that equality (everyone is the same) trumps merit (some people are better at some things than others). Educators pretend that teachers can teach to different levels, but of course this is very difficult to do (even more difficult because of testing environment) and is in fact, very rarely done. So smart kids are increasingly underserved. No one cares though cos teh emphasis is on lifting up those who struggle. It's a bad time to be a smart kid. People think that's whining, but kids are not able to say, Gee, I'm lucky I'm well fed and dont' live in the slums of Bangladesh. they just know they're bored and in trouble for acting out. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 05:09 AM Flag
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b/c evaluation of whole schools is testing-based and the G&T kids are going to max out anyway, it's much easier to lift the bottom up a little bit and see some results in the overall score. G&T kids will score 99s no matter whether they're pushed to excel or not, whereas lower achieving kids can expect to see some marked improvement when they're pushed a little. in our school, they cut back from 2 to 1 G&T class and I think they keep that only to hang on to enough G&T kids to maintain the top end of the curve. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 05:52 AM Flag
[ - ] How can I get over my fear of wearing contacts? I can't get the contact into my eye 15 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:22 PM Flag
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oddly enough, shorter finger nails really help. It's hard to get the angle right if they are long, and it looks like you're going to scratch your eye. (Not going to solve the fear, but it is a helpful hint) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:25 PM Flag
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by wearing glasses [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:26 PM Flag
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come on [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:27 PM Flag
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well some people just can't put anything into their eye. My DH is exhibit A [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:28 PM Flag
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alcohol to calm the nerves... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:28 PM Flag
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interesting [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:28 PM Flag
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I actually might try that [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:29 PM Flag
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not too much though! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:31 PM Flag
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It really is much harder the first time putting in and taking out, after that it gets much easier... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:31 PM Flag
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If you can do it once, from then it will get easier. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:32 PM Flag
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Sorry--hit enter too fast. Try holding the top eyelid open with the middle finger of one hand. Hold the bottom eyelid open with the middle finger of the other hand. Then put contact lens on the pointer finger of the hand that is holding the bottom eyelid open and slowly move it toward the eye, looking away as you do. Keep that finger very slow and steady. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:35 PM Flag
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how can I do it the first time?! I am scared that once I get it in, I wont be able to get it out [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:37 PM Flag
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getting it out is easier, as long as you eyes aren't really dry. My optomotrist made me do it once before he let me take the contacts, I suggest you get their help. One other piece of advice, getting contacts is easier if you put a drop of contact solution in the bowl of the contact. It helps it to slide right on. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:40 PM Flag
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Thank you everyone for the good advice. I have been trying to get the contacts in at the eye dr's office - I have been 4 times and still cannot do it. I use all of his samples and leave without success. I am so embarrassed [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:42 PM Flag
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Good luck--you will get there eventually. In terms of getting it out, do the same thing as putting it in--hold the top lid open with one finger; bottom with the other. Then look away and use the pointer finger to push the lens over (off the pupil) and take it out with your pointer finger and thumb. When I was first being taught how to do this, the person at the eye doctor's office just had me hold the top eyelid open. It worked better for me when I used the other hand to hold the bottom eyelid open too. Even now, that's how I put them in and out. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 08:53 PM Flag
[ - ] On a neighborhood listserve I belong to a bunch of Moms are setting up playdates for the their kids that will be in the same G & T class next yr. My daughter will be in one of the Gen Ed classes & I am feeling way left out. She failed the test this yr, but even if she passes we can't get into G & T there b/c we are out of district. I feel 7 yrs of inferiority coming on -- she is the oldest of 3 kids, too... 6 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 06.24.08, 06:21 PM Flag
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Please don't think of it as your child failing a test. Also, a basic rule of etiquette is to not invite someone in front of someone else who is not included in the invitation. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:41 PM Flag
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she will make new friends at her Gen Ed and this will all be history down the road. better to move on and embrace her new world. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:42 PM Flag
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You can see if your daughter can be included in the playdates or try to meet some of the Moms from the gen ed classes [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:43 PM Flag
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she should drop these friends. move on and make new friends. you won't have time for the old friends anyway, and if they are all in class together, your dd will feel like an outsider over time. if you link it to her "failure" to get into G&T, then she will pick that up and relate her sense of being on the outside to this fact. would not be good, so move on [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:53 PM Flag
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OP: You are all so sweet. Making me feel much better. I think the reality is it is a great school that will hopefully be able to provide differentiated learning for my kids even in their aren't in the G & T program, so maybe there is little to lament. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 07:17 PM Flag
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I don't understand why you feel left out? A bunch of g&t mothers are trying to have pladates with kids from their class. Why don't you post to have pladates with your dd classmates in gen ed? I don't see how they are excluding you if your kid is not in the class. It goes by class. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 12:15 PM Flag
[ - ] What is a good song for a bride to walk down the aisle to? 23 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:21 PM Flag
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is she or her partner italian? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:22 PM Flag
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no, but that Andre Bocelli song is great [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:23 PM Flag
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Can people who are not Italian use that song? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:24 PM Flag
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or: see below. of course. but you might want to include a translation of the lyrics in the wedding program. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:26 PM Flag
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there wont be any lyrics, just instrumental string trio [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:28 PM Flag
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No. The wedding police will rush the ceremony and tackle the bride. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:26 PM Flag
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yeah. we had a tenor sing Con Te Partiro - it was incredible. and my partner's italian. so all of her little old italian aunts were pretty blown away. obviously, don't do the "it's time to say goodbye" recording of it. the original song doesn't even translate that way. the lyrics are gorgeous. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:25 PM Flag
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We are going to have a string trio. Neither of us are Italian, we want our Bridal Party to walk down to that song and I want to pick something different for me [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:26 PM Flag
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Are you Jewish? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:27 PM Flag
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Yes [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:28 PM Flag
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or: have you listened to the actual lyrics? it's really more appropriate as a processional for one of you, not the bridal party, imho. but it's beautiful either way. it's just a very intimate testimony of love. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:28 PM Flag
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^^ but i gotcha about the instrumental only. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:28 PM Flag
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Well, it will be the same song for the bridal party to walk down to and my soon to be dh will walk down to that... when I come out it will be something different [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:30 PM Flag
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Why is it called time to say goodbye sometimes? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:31 PM Flag
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Here Comes The Bride...or the GE commercial song [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:23 PM Flag
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what is the ge commerical song? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:37 PM Flag
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commercial song? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:38 PM Flag
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Sweet Imagination from the original Willy Wonka movie. My favorite aisle song. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:24 PM Flag
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we went with that ol' standard, Pachelbel's Canon [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:34 PM Flag
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ITA, I did something different but if you don't have strong feelings, this is classic and beautiful. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 06:12 AM Flag
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princess bride love song, can't remember the name [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:35 PM Flag
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Trumpets Voluntary. It sounds like the queen is getting married. Often used in Episcopalian weddings. It was what princess Di used. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 05:18 AM Flag
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Water Music [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 06:11 AM Flag
[ - ] Any HR moms on? I need some advice/help. 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:20 PM Flag
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Not HR, but I'm great at advice;) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:29 PM Flag
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HR mom here! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:43 PM Flag
[ - ] FT WOHM with kids in K beyond. Can you tell me about your child care arrangement? What is the job description (incude cleaning/chores/additional babysitting?) How much do you pay? Where did you find the person? CAn she help with homework? 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:18 PM Flag
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My experience is dated becasue while I worked with my older two I am now a SAHM with #3. We still have our nanny although only on weekends now. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:41 PM Flag
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^^ When she was f/t she did everything. She took the dcs to school, shopped, cleaned, organized playdates (I did too) we shared the cooking etc. She saved my life every day for years and I love her for it. She comes up on weekends to Westchester now (we moved fromt he city) and it's half job half Auntie making a visit. We paid her the going rate at the time. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:44 PM Flag
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We are just starting this - trying to see if it works - after school most days - babysitter one day - college student - 11 and hour and some additional babysitting. We'll let you know if it works [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:44 PM Flag
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How late does your afterschool program go? What will you do about vacation, summer and sick days. Have you foudn the college student? What happens when college student is on break/vacation? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 07:34 PM Flag
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sitter from 3-7or8 every day. takes dc to aftershool activities and cleans, laundry, $475/week [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 07:05 PM Flag
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^^oh, and for the # is also expected to add hours on half days, days off from school with no extra $$ [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 07:06 PM Flag
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So on school vacation weeks where she will work 40-50 hours still paid 475? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 07:34 PM Flag
[ - ] when did you start a sippy cup and how did you get your child to use it? my db is 10mo, btw. tia. 9 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:16 PM Flag
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6 mos for water. db was not successful the first few times, but he got the hang of it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:17 PM Flag
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try a straw cup at that age - sometimes young db's like them better [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:17 PM Flag
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a regular one? the one's i have tried have the no spill. so far she hasn't figured it out. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:18 PM Flag
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you can show her using a clear one. but also the munchkin insulated straw cup is good. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:19 PM Flag
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thanks [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:20 PM Flag
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no prob. just don't do what we did and let dc taste coke when you're teaching dc to use the clear straw. ahem. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:23 PM Flag
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lol. someone else suggested i try a runny milkshake when teaching. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:24 PM Flag
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seriously. if there is one parenting thing i could take back in the past 3 yrs, it's that coke thing. ughhhhh. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:27 PM Flag
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^^ it never occurred to us that a "taste" would matter that much... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:29 PM Flag
[ - ] Please explain: My DD took the ERBs this spring. How and when do I get the score reports to the schools we are applying to? 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 06.24.08, 06:16 PM Flag
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You can email the erb office with your child's name and address, testing date and site and schools selected. You MUST email credit card information if you are requesting more than 5 schools to receive the scores as they charge about $10 extra per report over 5 schools. They do not email back but you can call to confirm they rec'd your info. You can not add schools over the telephone. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.25.08, 07:23 AM Flag
[ - ] Does anyone know of any books that will help me get centered in my life and deal with mild depression through positive thinking (i.e. inspirational self-help books)? tia. 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:13 PM Flag
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My husband loved Learned Optimism... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:15 PM Flag
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There's a book called "What Happy People Know" or some such. People swear by it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:16 PM Flag
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The holy Bible is a great place to start. Try Psalms and you will be amazed. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:16 PM Flag
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read the diving bell and the butterfly. It will really put things into perspective. Try thinking more about the positive things in your life and less about the bad [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.24.08, 06:32 PM Flag
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