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[ - ] 2.5 dd has bilateral trigger thums and needs surgery... freaking out 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:22 PM Flag
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hijack (sorry, don't mean to be uncaring) but i googled this (clearly, you meant 'thumbs') and the post was the first hit on google...! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:46 PM Flag
[ - ] Would you stay with DH for the sake of dc even though you are totally miserable? Anyone else feel like a single mom even though they are married? 28 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:19 PM Flag
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no because you arent' doing your kids a favor by being miserable [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:20 PM Flag
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930 here and dh still at work. no sign of leaving. been a single married mom forever. comes down to me in love w/ dh & couldn't live a life w/o him. it sucks doing everything at home and w/ kids w/o his help though [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:23 PM Flag
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not even sure how much I'm in love dh anymore - I love him, he's father of my dcs but he treats me like crap. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:30 PM Flag
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w/o the love, i'd be gone [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:38 PM Flag
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but wouldn't it be worse to have dcs deal with divorced parents [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:33 PM Flag
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not if she truly is miserable. I prayed for my parents to get divorced. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:42 PM Flag
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at what age do dcs start to pick up if you are miserable? we barely speak to each other but dont fight much in front of them [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:47 PM Flag
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I did at age five. They didn't get divorced till I was 19, it was so annoying. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:50 PM Flag
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they didn't openly fight either, I just knew they didn't like each other. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:51 PM Flag
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How did you know? And did it make you unhappy? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 07:14 PM Flag
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It made me feel insecure in the house, always waiting for the other shoe to drop. You just know. You see kids whose parents want to be together, and you know that yours don't. There can be quilt around the fact that they are unhappy but staying together just for you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 07:18 PM Flag
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they know from day 1. ITA with the other responder, my parents should never have married but divorced when I was 24. thanks to a good therapist, I am ok now [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:53 PM Flag
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no, not at all, my parents stayed married for way to long. we prayed they would meet other people and have to get divorced! we wished my mom would cheat. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 07:11 PM Flag
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Why? What did you they do to make you wish that? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 07:17 PM Flag
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Studies have shown that unless the parents are openly hostile the children are better off if the parents stay married. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:49 PM Flag
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I haven't seen any studies that do this but take into account income. Children of divorced parents are far more likely to live in or near poverty, and that comes with its own issues, and yes, it would be better to stay together if you aren't going to be able to provide for your children appropriately, I doubt that applies to OP though. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:53 PM Flag
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OP - We would live more comfortably if I stayed married but on my income only we would still be ok - we probably fit into UMC category. I still worry though about my dcs not seeing their father everyday. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:59 PM Flag
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the single greatest risk for poverty is being cared for by a single mom. it isn't a cause of poverty per se, but statistically liklier to be poor in a single female headed household [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 07:00 PM Flag
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That's just common sense, of course a single mother is likely to live in poverty like conditions. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 07:04 PM Flag
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but it doesn't mean someone should stay in bad relationship [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 07:06 PM Flag
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it especially doesn't mean it when the woman wouldn't be in poverty or anywhere close [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 07:12 PM Flag
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This has been pretty well documented over the years. Except in situations of physical or emotional abuse, children are better off if the parents remain married. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 07:11 PM Flag
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yes, but that is primarily for financial reasons that don't apply here. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 07:13 PM Flag
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Yes, they too will learn to suffer in silence and carry on the tradition. I don't think divorce is the worst thing. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 07:00 PM Flag
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not if I was totally miserable, or in danger etc., but maybe if I was just disenchanted or bored. being a single mom has got to be harder some how imo. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:58 PM Flag
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OP - I'm not in danger - but not happy. E.g., my dh only sent me a text message at 4pm on my bday - didn't even make an effort to say anything to me that day. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 07:02 PM Flag
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life's too short to stay in a relationship that is not a happy one. is it the relationship or are there other reasons for your unhappiness? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 07:09 PM Flag
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I think its the relationship. Other than that I have a good life but my marriage makes me unhappy. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 07:11 PM Flag
[ - ] My dd is now 6mo (wasn't colicky, but definitely not the easiest baby.) It's my first dc and find myself wondering...when does it get easier? She is still cranky a lot of the time. She's happy right after she eats and for a little while afterwards, but then it's a constant battle to keep her happy. Is this normal? Is it just her personality? 8 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:19 PM Flag
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did you give birth to my MIL? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:19 PM Flag
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op: lol! thanks for cheering me up! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:21 PM Flag
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or: anytime! :) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:22 PM Flag
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just her personality. it will pass, promise. my ds was so difficult till after 12 mo or so, so much better around 15 mo. just hang on and focus on all the good stuff and keep telling yourself "it's a phase", it's gotten me through a lot [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:22 PM Flag
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I was just thinking this myself and I have 2 kids...but it goes in cycles. Some days and/or months will be great and then you'll have a hard few weeks. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:22 PM Flag
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sounds like she needs a better sleep schedule. it shouldn't be such a battle [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:24 PM Flag
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what is her sleep like? i find a rested baby to be a happy baby. at 6 mo, she should do 3 naps/day for around 1 hr and 11-13 hrs at night [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:24 PM Flag
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I found both my dcs underwent sort of "personality changes" when they learned to crawl a/o walk -- they both were so much happier when they were more mobile! (tho db#2 is generally an easy baby anyway). OTOH, my dc#1 is now really difficult -- she's almost 5 -- so it could just be personality. But (maybe) you'll get better at dealing with it as times passes. GL [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:25 PM Flag
[ - ] Looking for a nice hotel in Naples, Fl any ideas? 6 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:17 PM Flag
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Ritz [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:18 PM Flag
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ritz on the beach. does it have to be naples? if with kids try marriott on marco island [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:18 PM Flag
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Are their things to do there? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:20 PM Flag
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beautiful beach, lots of shells. 2 pools, one with waterslide, one more mellow. depends if you want to leave the hotel for nightlife. nightlife and options in naples are more, but decent restaurants at the marriott and in the area. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:21 PM Flag
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Bringing 2.5 dd for a long weekend. We want to be able to go out at night and walk around shops, etc. how far is this from the nightlife in Naples? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:23 PM Flag
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probably at least 30 minutes or so. the ritz carlton is about 10-15 minutes from 5th st - cute galleries and restaurants. rooms at the marriott are huge if that makes a difference. also, at teh ritz you have a long walkway (boardwalk) to the beach, marriott is right on the sand [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:25 PM Flag
[ - ] Serious question: What is the etiquette for a lesbian bridal shower? The brides are having a joint shower. Do you buy one gift for both brides? One gift for each bride? Or do you only give a gift to the bride with whom you are friends/family with? TIA. 8 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:16 PM Flag
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omg, too much trouble...skip it! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:17 PM Flag
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One of the brides is my cousin. I can't skip it. She didn't miss a single event in my life. She was at every graduation, shower, religious event, etc. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:23 PM Flag
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buy something they can both use, from the registry, just like a hetero couple. a toaster, blender, fondue set.... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:39 PM Flag
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:45 PM Flag
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No registry, that would make my life too simple. I think I'll buy them a nice picture frame for their wedding portrait. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:54 PM Flag
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double headed rabbit [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:18 PM Flag
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It would be one present to them both for their home together [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:20 PM Flag
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I went to one and just gave one present [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:49 PM Flag
[ - ] need help 14month old won't go to sleep, used to be ferberized, do i go back to letting her cry for intervalss? 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:16 PM Flag
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yup. I think of it as continued sleep training [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:17 PM Flag
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dh is having a fit that dd is crying can't listen to it, UGH! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:18 PM Flag
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night #2 for me...it's great! cried for 10 min, went in, calmed down and now is asleep!!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:19 PM Flag
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it's so hard to do. we're about to retrain 19 mo for early am wakeups. it's going to be a long week or so. gl! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:23 PM Flag
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when is youdb waking in the am? i think i have that problem too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:35 PM Flag
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Could be teething. Is she still napping twice a day? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:36 PM Flag
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nope i have her nap once a day [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:38 PM Flag
[ - ] Decided I was tired of yelling at 4.9yo to do stuff (even though that was the only way I could get her to do things most of the time). I was nothing but nice to her today after camp. Even so, she threw a complete hysterical 20 minute fit for no particular reason (or no good reason -- things like she didn't want to wear the pjs that were short sleeved, she wanted no sleeves, and she couldn't put the ones I'd gotten out for her back in the drawer b/c they weren't folded (I didn't care). Then she smacked her 1yo sister in the face with a stuffed animal. I'm really at a loss at how to deal with her. Any advice? tia 6 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:13 PM Flag
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put her in her room or a timeout! Let her cry too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:15 PM Flag
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put her to bed earlier. shes possibly acting out because she is tired and just cant deal. camp is tiring and its hot [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:16 PM Flag
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Ittta, this isn't rocket science mom - back waaay off [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:21 PM Flag
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my 4.9 year old was cranky tonight too. This morning we had trouble waking her to get up for camp. Tonight I put her to bed early, I know she is exhausted from all the activities at camp. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:22 PM Flag
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my 5 year old want to be in control and obvioulsy she can't be but I do let her control a few things...bath in 5 or 7 minutes, you pick jammies, do want milk or water w/ dinner, do want strawberries or blueberries etc. it makes her feel like she gets to make choices when really the choices are small but it helps, Goodluck!!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:25 PM Flag
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sounds like she's tired from camp and feels out of control. give her choices. try to use humor and stay calm. things will only escalate when you get tense. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:44 PM Flag
[ - ] what age would a kid read freckle juice by judy blume? 2nd grade? 3rd? 8 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:12 PM Flag
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4th or 5th [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:12 PM Flag
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are you saying this from experience? i feel like maybe younger kids can read it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:13 PM Flag
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NP: Depends on the kid. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:15 PM Flag
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i agree, but do you think a boy going into 1st can read it?> [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:16 PM Flag
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no [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:17 PM Flag
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really, because he picked it up and wanted to buy it, so i did. maybe a waste of $ [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:20 PM Flag
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I started reading Judy Blume in the 4th grade and i started my dd reading her books in the 4th grade too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:15 PM Flag
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my dd read freckle juice by herself in 1st grade [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:30 PM Flag
[ - ] Name help: Need a middle name of Noah. DH doesn't like James. Tia 14 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:09 PM Flag
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^^meant middle name FOR Noah [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:09 PM Flag
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Edward [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:11 PM Flag
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ewwww [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:12 PM Flag
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David [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:12 PM Flag
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My son is Noah David [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:13 PM Flag
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op: thx. I like this. I will see what DH thinks [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:14 PM Flag
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Daniel? Elijah? Lucas? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:17 PM Flag
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op: I like Daniel too. tx. I'm so bad with boys names. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:18 PM Flag
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Gabriel, John, Thomas [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 07:36 PM Flag
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op: oh I like Thomas [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 05:08 AM Flag
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I'm guessing this is your second baby. Another boy and its a bit harder this time around thinking up a name??? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 07:39 PM Flag
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op: this is my first son, I have dds and boys names are hard [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 03:34 AM Flag
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Drake [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 05:49 AM Flag
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Sark [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 05:49 AM Flag
[ - ] can you recommend as many places as possible to buy cabinetry hardware? I already know of Nanz, Simons, restoration hardware, gracious home, rejuvination. Anything else? 11 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:09 PM Flag
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why do you need to know so many places? having a hard time finding what you want? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:14 PM Flag
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SUCH a hard time. I'm going to Crazytown. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:56 PM Flag
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You mean the knobs? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:15 PM Flag
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drawer pulls and handles, pocket door pulls [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 07:00 PM Flag
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home epot? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:18 PM Flag
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Yes and Home Depot's Expo store [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:32 PM Flag
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home depot near Bloomingdales in NYC has a good selection of knobs (much better than the home depots in the burbs) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:27 PM Flag
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there are some places on the bowery near broome ish [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:33 PM Flag
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Klaffs of Norwalk (you'd have to go up there to see it but they do have a lot of stuff) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:36 PM Flag
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This is great--I live in Northern Westchester. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:57 PM Flag
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Anthropologie [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:58 PM Flag
[ - ] Recovering from wisdom teeth removal. The percoset keeps me awake ( i know, sounds crazy). I took 2 Motrin at 7. Can I take a Tylenol PM now? 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:57 PM Flag
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Yes. Motrin is Ibuprofen, Tylenol is Acetominaphen. Totally fine. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:01 PM Flag
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I thought you weren't suppossed to mix them tylenol and ibuprofen, it was just 2 hours ago? But what do I know, really...nothing. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:04 PM Flag
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no, i think you can actually alternate them more frequently. like if tylenol is every 4 hours, then you can take motrin after 2. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:18 PM Flag
[ - ] Would you buy a house in a nice neighborhood if it were in between 2 houses with dogs? One house has a fence, the other has invisible fence up. It's a new community so there isn't a lot of foliage for privacy (but we could plant, put up our own fence). Coming from NYC so used to noise... 6 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:51 PM Flag
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If you hate dogs, don't pick that house. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:53 PM Flag
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:09 PM Flag
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What is an invisible fence? It depends on the type of dogs. We had neighbors, when I was growing up, who had two huge doberman pinchers. They hopped a rather large fence to chase me. I wouldn't want to live next to those dogs again. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:31 PM Flag
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Well....you can't really have much say about the pets around you, but if they were large (loud) dogs that spent a lot of time outside, it would give me pause. My parents' neighbors have dogs and they bark so much that my parents never have their windows open. I would hate that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:53 PM Flag
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if they were loud and outside a lot I may not like that. I just think of the big dogs getting onto my property and I have small kids [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:07 PM Flag
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I live between 2 big dogs and rarely hear them or have any issues [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:16 PM Flag
[ - ] Second night of CIO with my 3 year old . Poor thing has been hysterical for 50 minutes now. I think the neighbors are going to call CPS on me. Anyone have any success oat this age? How long did it take. FWIW we tried gradually limiting his exposure to us ( for about a month) 25 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:51 PM Flag
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I can't imagine that working with a 3 yo. Seriously. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:52 PM Flag
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so what worked with your 3 YO - we are desperate [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:55 PM Flag
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My 3 yo still gets up fairly often at night. We walk him back to bed, try not to engage him after bedtime, and hope that this phase will be over soon. It's exhausting, but I can't imagine how we'd CIO. He'd just walk out of his room. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:57 PM Flag
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baby gate [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:58 PM Flag
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He'd climb over it. [ Reply | More
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well we got an extra tall gate that locks [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:02 PM Flag
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i admire that you are trying to correct the situation...but not sure CIO will work for a 3 year old. Try watching a few episodes of supernanny, she appears to have some good ideas for getting older kids to bed. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:55 PM Flag
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did look into supper nanny - i watch her religiously. but her advice is to lie down on the floor next to them w-o talking. that didn't work for us b/c he pulled my hair until I got mad [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:57 PM Flag
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will 3 yo not stay in bed? is he in a toddler bed or real bed? (we have a 3yo too and have had a hard time) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:58 PM Flag
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real bed [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:59 PM Flag
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hmmmm. does he sleep in his own room or with a sib? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:00 PM Flag
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own room which he loves [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:02 PM Flag
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LOL--apparently not (or he'd sleep in it) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:04 PM Flag
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i see your point but I think for him it's more about separation from us [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:07 PM Flag
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have you tried a reward/ sticker chart for when he stays in bed? it helped my ds to talk about getting a reward (in his case, getting to watch his favorite TV show) ... it also helped to talk about how the bedtime routine was going to go throughout the day and lay out the expectation. The last thing that helped was an older brother, who helped reinforce the expectation of getting in bed and staying there. GL [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:08 PM Flag
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I second this. We just started for our 3 year old (not having trouble w sleeping but other stuff) and it's totally working. 10 stickers and she gets a prize - first one she chose is her first movie in the theater with daddy. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:39 PM Flag
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It must be scary for him to be locked away from you. I actually think that sounds dangerous, and it may be working *against* what you are setting out to do (have him stay in bed). Personally, I try to treat my dc like the treasured guest in my life that she is. I try to be her partner, see things from her perspective, and not go into fear mode about what will happen in the future if I don't "nip this in the bud" or whatever (it always passes). Life is too short. Good luck, whether you consider giving your son back some of his autonomy in this, or not. You all deserve peace :-) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:36 PM Flag
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Are you reading what you are writing? The kid is 3 and doesn't sleep alone and you're implying that the mom is taking his autonomy away? SHE IS THE PARENT, not the partner. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:41 PM Flag
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(response to above reply, not referencing op): well, I see my parental role as one of partnership, not arbitrary top-down decision-making... I get that it's not the typical way of looking at it, it's just that I still have a really strong connection to the kid I was, and I remember how betrayed I felt when I figured out that I had been seen as a 2nd class citizen merely because I was a kid. I thought I might not have children, because I knew I didn't want to BE THE PARENT in the way you are talking about. Then I realized, I don't have to be, I just have to let dd be herself, go for what she wants, and look out for her health and safety. Sure there are conflicts, and I am by no means even close to being a perfect parent, but I hope that my willingness to treat dd as an equal partner (*not* as an adult, but as a partner who happens to be a child and so has some unique needs (and gifts) that she brings to the table) will mean that we have an authentic lifelong relationship. I will know her in a unique way, in part because I observe her a lot rather than imposing my will on her arbitrarily. I take her feelings seriously. If this sounds like gibberish to you, that's cool. And to the other poster, my meds were in the form of being playful and goofy w/ dd until she fell asleep tonight, and no, I didn't forget to take *them* happy pills ;-) bless you and your kids, I don't doubt that you love them a ton and are trying to do the right thing... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 07:45 PM Flag
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>>> ug. how long can a post be? I wish UB would stop you before typing a long response that doesn't show up. Oh well, I'm too tired to try again. Darn that long-windedness gene... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 07:53 PM Flag
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children will be in therapy [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 08:01 PM Flag
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well, I have no problem with therapy, but from what I've seen, it's kids who have no relationship with their parents who are more likely to need that outside person's perspective later. I know dd from observing her (better than I would if I was always pushing my own agenda). I also would never aske HER to "be the parent", you may be mistaking me here. As a child, she has more needs that can't wait than I do, a unique way of seeing things, etc. There is a third way that doesn't involve an us-against-them / either we're the bosses or the kids are attitude. So many people miss out on how great their kids are because they are over-focussed on "behavior" (that is always changing anyway!), and getting their kids to behave a certain way (gl w/ tht one, esp. by teen age). It's a shame! I have no doubt you love your kids and want to do the best by them-- bless us all! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 08:36 PM Flag
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forgot your meds tonight, huh? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:52 PM Flag
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ha, my happy pill tonight was goofing and playing w/ my dd until she fell asleep :-) no prescription matches it... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 07:56 PM Flag
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we had the same thing happen at 3 YO. we just kept walking her back into her room. it was awful. it only lasted about a week. finally i just spoke to her about it during the day and told her she was making me very unhappy. and that did the trick. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 07:58 PM Flag
[ - ] Which vitamin drops are supposed to taste better - Trivisol or Polyvisol? Have you tried a different vitamin supplement that's worked for your picky eater toddler? 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:47 PM Flag
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We use the gummy vitamins--haven't used drops since infancy. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:50 PM Flag
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mine like Kangavites [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:50 PM Flag
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are you taking the vitamins with iron? if so, I'd suggest asking your pharmacists to flavor them. It makes a huge, huge difference. GL. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 07:24 PM Flag
[ - ] I am taking 6 mo ds on his first flight. Any tips? I'm shipping everything except the diaper bag ahead of time. I am just dreading this trip. 45 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:47 PM Flag
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I have 2 kids. Never an issue on the plane. Depends on the child [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:49 PM Flag
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Are you getting him his own seat or is he on your lap? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:50 PM Flag
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Own seat, of course. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:53 PM Flag
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I find the "of course" annoying. If I had advice, I'm too busy to share it now. Good luck. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:54 PM Flag
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I don't want the advice of anyone who thinks that a lap baby (AKA Missile) is a good idea. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:56 PM Flag
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LOL--okay sanctimommy. Have a nice flight. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:58 PM Flag
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np: The airlines are pretty much the only group that approve of lap babies. Everyone else in infant care or air travel thinks that every passenger needs their own seat. That says a lot. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:00 PM Flag
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In a perfect world, maybe I'd have a seat for DD, but traveling is expensive and I can't always afford the seat. Such is life. Ready for this shocker: sometimes we take cabs with a car seat! The horror! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:02 PM Flag
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What's wrong with taking a cab with a car seat? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:03 PM Flag
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It is dangerous for a child to fly without a seat. If you are willing to take that risk to save a few bucks, and can live with yourself if something goes wrong, go ahead. But I am not looking to you for advice on anything. We clearly have very different values. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:04 PM Flag
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NP: Yeah, maybe she values money. I have 2 kids. None had their own seats until they were 2. Never had a lick of trouble. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:16 PM Flag
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That's just luck though. You could have been on a plane with turbulence and had serious trouble. Most of us slept in cribs painted with lead paint and rode in cars without carseats with no trouble. That doesn't mean it is a good idea to do it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:18 PM Flag
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Do you have any evidence of lap infant injuries from turbulence? Just curious. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:38 PM Flag
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Actually, I was on a flight from Tokyo to Newark about two years ago that hit some awful turbulence midflight. Several passengers were thrown from their seats, including at least one toddler. We had to make an emergency landing in Alaska for medical treatment. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:41 PM Flag
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Was the medical treatment only for the toddler? Or were other people injured on the flight? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:43 PM Flag
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Several people were seriously hurt (head injuries, mostly). If your aren't strapped in, you can be thrown around the plane like a rag doll. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:44 PM Flag
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Oh, I forgot, you've been parenting for 6 whole months! You must be an expert! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:00 PM Flag
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I wouldn't hold a dog on my lap on a plane! But I'm supposed to hold a child? You have got to be kidding. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:01 PM Flag
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Good night ladies. Get over yourself sometime real soon. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:03 PM Flag
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I'm a pediatrician. American Academy of Pediatrician's statement is that all children under two belong in their own seats, strapped into an FAA approved car seat. You should treat an airplane no differently than you would treat a car. Just because someone told you that you didn't need a carseat in their car, would you hold your infant on your lap? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:57 PM Flag
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Et tu sanctidoc? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:59 PM Flag
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You sound like a joy to have in the practice. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:02 PM Flag
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I'm sorry, but if the plane is going down the seat aint helpin'. And for all the trip that I did a lap baby, I help DB in my arms tightly [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:05 PM Flag
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The concern isn't the plane going down. The concern is a survivable emergency landing, a failed takeoff, or turbulence. In the event of an accident, child could be propelled forward with a force far to great for you to hold on. The case often taught is of a United Flight with a complex landing. None of the lap babies survived because none of their parents could hold onto them. But many of the seated passengers survived. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:08 PM Flag
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And this flight isn't just an urban legend? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:17 PM Flag
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No. I'll get the flight number and you can google it. It's quite famous. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:19 PM Flag
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UAL Flight 232. When you read up and see the manifest, PAX means passenger and Missile means lap baby. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:22 PM Flag
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Ugh...the You Tube video is awful! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:28 PM Flag
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A terrible flight and lots of people died, but do your research: proportionally more lap babies than passengers survived. But don't let the facts get in your way. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:29 PM Flag
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I was unaware of this flight until now. But if you look at the flight as first class and forward (high fatality), and behind first class (low fatality), the results are quite different. And it NEVER entered my mind that in an accident, babes in arms would be put on the floor. What kind of craziness is that? The story of the mother who got off the plane but couldn't find her son in the fire is terrible. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:34 PM Flag
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^^^ I should add that I was not in the US when this happened. Was this a very famous flight? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:38 PM Flag
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In the way that all plane crashes are famous. I've just been googling. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:45 PM Flag
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And any report that designates an infant as a missile is certainly unbiased and objective. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:34 PM Flag
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That's how flight attendants speak. Google it. Flight attendants are strongly opposed to lap babies. If you ever do fly with a lap baby, bring a birth certificate. Because it does happen that they challenge the child's age and throw passengers off the plane when they don't believe the lap child is two or under. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:37 PM Flag
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I'm sure it is. Why on earth would a flight attendant be in favor of a lap infant? It makes their jobs more difficult. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:40 PM Flag
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What a wonderful mother you must be to have such superhuman strength. Not everyone can be so lucky and has to worry about how we would hold onto our children in an accident. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:10 PM Flag
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Read up on the United flight referenced above: 1 of 4 lap babies died on impact, which is awful, but the SOP was for parents to put the babies ON THE FLOOR. The babies were NOT ripped out of their mothers' arms. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:32 PM Flag
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The floor is for emergency landings. You would be holding your child in a failed take off or during turbulence. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:35 PM Flag
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And your evidence of injuries to lap children in those incidents? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:39 PM Flag
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Look into an Eastern flight in about 1985. There was a thunderstorm and a few infants were thrown from their parents arms during the turbulence. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:46 PM Flag
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23 years ago, huh. I guess it must happen ALL THE TIME. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:47 PM Flag
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I'm pretty conservative. If there is a risk I can easily mitigate, I do. If my child were hurt, it would be little consolation to me that the risk of injury was small. Other people feel differently. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:49 PM Flag
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wow what an interesting post...your baby will probably want out eventually anyways to eat etc. so I never bothered w/ a seat since I knew that they and I would be more comfortable. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:21 PM Flag
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I can use a front carrier during the flight, or I have a flight safety vest that will give me enough room to maneuver for feeding. The seat is for takeoff and landing. The FAA forbids front carriers and safety vests during takeoffs and landing. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:25 PM Flag
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my kids feel asleep right away so hopefully you get that too, safe travels [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:28 PM Flag
[ - ] After EBF two DC, I cannot stand when DH wants to touch, kiss, etc my breasts. Anyone else ? is this normal ? permanent ? 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:45 PM Flag
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I feel the same...still nursing though. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:46 PM Flag
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I stopped years ago and DH said that he misses my breasts as I usually push him away... i wish I didn't feel that way, but seeing his face there creeps me out. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:48 PM Flag
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hmmmm.... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:50 PM Flag
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I dont understand why my dh even wants to look at them. they used to be so pretty. im the one who misses them [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:58 PM Flag
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