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07.02.08, 17:47 PM General Topics
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I am taking 6 mo ds on his first flight. Any tips? I'm shipping everything except the diaper bag ahead of time. I am just dreading this trip. [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
General Topics 07.02.08, 05:47 PM Flag
 

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I have 2 kids. Never an issue on the plane. Depends on the child [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:49 PM Flag
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Are you getting him his own seat or is he on your lap? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:50 PM Flag
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Own seat, of course. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:53 PM Flag
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I find the "of course" annoying. If I had advice, I'm too busy to share it now. Good luck. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:54 PM Flag
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I don't want the advice of anyone who thinks that a lap baby (AKA Missile) is a good idea. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:56 PM Flag
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LOL--okay sanctimommy. Have a nice flight. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:58 PM Flag
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np: The airlines are pretty much the only group that approve of lap babies. Everyone else in infant care or air travel thinks that every passenger needs their own seat. That says a lot. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:00 PM Flag
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In a perfect world, maybe I'd have a seat for DD, but traveling is expensive and I can't always afford the seat. Such is life. Ready for this shocker: sometimes we take cabs with a car seat! The horror! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:02 PM Flag
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What's wrong with taking a cab with a car seat? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:03 PM Flag
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It is dangerous for a child to fly without a seat. If you are willing to take that risk to save a few bucks, and can live with yourself if something goes wrong, go ahead. But I am not looking to you for advice on anything. We clearly have very different values. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:04 PM Flag
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NP: Yeah, maybe she values money. I have 2 kids. None had their own seats until they were 2. Never had a lick of trouble. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:16 PM Flag
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That's just luck though. You could have been on a plane with turbulence and had serious trouble. Most of us slept in cribs painted with lead paint and rode in cars without carseats with no trouble. That doesn't mean it is a good idea to do it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:18 PM Flag
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Do you have any evidence of lap infant injuries from turbulence? Just curious. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:38 PM Flag
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Actually, I was on a flight from Tokyo to Newark about two years ago that hit some awful turbulence midflight. Several passengers were thrown from their seats, including at least one toddler. We had to make an emergency landing in Alaska for medical treatment. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:41 PM Flag
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Was the medical treatment only for the toddler? Or were other people injured on the flight? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:43 PM Flag
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Several people were seriously hurt (head injuries, mostly). If your aren't strapped in, you can be thrown around the plane like a rag doll. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:44 PM Flag
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Oh, I forgot, you've been parenting for 6 whole months! You must be an expert! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:00 PM Flag
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I wouldn't hold a dog on my lap on a plane! But I'm supposed to hold a child? You have got to be kidding. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:01 PM Flag
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Good night ladies. Get over yourself sometime real soon. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:03 PM Flag
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I'm a pediatrician. American Academy of Pediatrician's statement is that all children under two belong in their own seats, strapped into an FAA approved car seat. You should treat an airplane no differently than you would treat a car. Just because someone told you that you didn't need a carseat in their car, would you hold your infant on your lap? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:57 PM Flag
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Et tu sanctidoc? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 05:59 PM Flag
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You sound like a joy to have in the practice. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:02 PM Flag
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I'm sorry, but if the plane is going down the seat aint helpin'. And for all the trip that I did a lap baby, I help DB in my arms tightly [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:05 PM Flag
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The concern isn't the plane going down. The concern is a survivable emergency landing, a failed takeoff, or turbulence. In the event of an accident, child could be propelled forward with a force far to great for you to hold on. The case often taught is of a United Flight with a complex landing. None of the lap babies survived because none of their parents could hold onto them. But many of the seated passengers survived. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:08 PM Flag
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And this flight isn't just an urban legend? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:17 PM Flag
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No. I'll get the flight number and you can google it. It's quite famous. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:19 PM Flag
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UAL Flight 232. When you read up and see the manifest, PAX means passenger and Missile means lap baby. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:22 PM Flag
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Ugh...the You Tube video is awful! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:28 PM Flag
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A terrible flight and lots of people died, but do your research: proportionally more lap babies than passengers survived. But don't let the facts get in your way. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:29 PM Flag
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I was unaware of this flight until now. But if you look at the flight as first class and forward (high fatality), and behind first class (low fatality), the results are quite different. And it NEVER entered my mind that in an accident, babes in arms would be put on the floor. What kind of craziness is that? The story of the mother who got off the plane but couldn't find her son in the fire is terrible. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:34 PM Flag
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^^^ I should add that I was not in the US when this happened. Was this a very famous flight? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:38 PM Flag
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In the way that all plane crashes are famous. I've just been googling. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:45 PM Flag
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And any report that designates an infant as a missile is certainly unbiased and objective. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:34 PM Flag
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That's how flight attendants speak. Google it. Flight attendants are strongly opposed to lap babies. If you ever do fly with a lap baby, bring a birth certificate. Because it does happen that they challenge the child's age and throw passengers off the plane when they don't believe the lap child is two or under. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:37 PM Flag
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I'm sure it is. Why on earth would a flight attendant be in favor of a lap infant? It makes their jobs more difficult. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:40 PM Flag
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What a wonderful mother you must be to have such superhuman strength. Not everyone can be so lucky and has to worry about how we would hold onto our children in an accident. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:10 PM Flag
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Read up on the United flight referenced above: 1 of 4 lap babies died on impact, which is awful, but the SOP was for parents to put the babies ON THE FLOOR. The babies were NOT ripped out of their mothers' arms. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:32 PM Flag
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The floor is for emergency landings. You would be holding your child in a failed take off or during turbulence. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:35 PM Flag
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And your evidence of injuries to lap children in those incidents? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:39 PM Flag
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Look into an Eastern flight in about 1985. There was a thunderstorm and a few infants were thrown from their parents arms during the turbulence. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:46 PM Flag
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23 years ago, huh. I guess it must happen ALL THE TIME. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:47 PM Flag
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I'm pretty conservative. If there is a risk I can easily mitigate, I do. If my child were hurt, it would be little consolation to me that the risk of injury was small. Other people feel differently. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:49 PM Flag
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wow what an interesting post...your baby will probably want out eventually anyways to eat etc. so I never bothered w/ a seat since I knew that they and I would be more comfortable. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:21 PM Flag
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I can use a front carrier during the flight, or I have a flight safety vest that will give me enough room to maneuver for feeding. The seat is for takeoff and landing. The FAA forbids front carriers and safety vests during takeoffs and landing. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:25 PM Flag
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my kids feel asleep right away so hopefully you get that too, safe travels [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 06:28 PM Flag
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