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[ - ] first holiday since dh and i decided we are divorcing and it is much tougher than i thought - i still haven't told many people what is going on, and most that i have do not know why we are getting divorced; i thought i wouldn't let him ruin the holiday for me but he is bringing me down 50 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Newborn 07.03.08, 10:52 AM Flag
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why do ppl need to know WHY you are getting divorced? It's no ones business [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:55 AM Flag
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well our divorce isnt exactly expected, the few i told were shocked that our marriage was over [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:02 AM Flag
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yes I'm sure they were shocked but my point is that they don't need to know details unless you want them to. You shouldn't feel like you have to give an explanation especially now that things are still raw [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:07 AM Flag
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Why are you getting divorced? It sounds like you're not certain you want to. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:05 AM Flag
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no i am sure, dh cheated for a long time with the same woman [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:08 AM Flag
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It sucks. Go ahead and tell people, it's not going to be as bad as you think it is. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:13 AM Flag
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is she still in his life ? is he repentant or petulant ? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:14 AM Flag
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yes she is, it is embarassing, she is so young [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:16 AM Flag
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I am sorry. When I see men with their young second wives or girlfreinds I take satisfaction in the fact that karma is a bitch. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:18 AM Flag
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wow, you are so judgemental. I'm the product of a 2nd younger wife (20 years but she had nothing to do with breaking up my dad's first marriage) and my parents have been happily married for nearly 40 years. How can you judge without know the situation? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:19 AM Flag
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Ummm because she said she was sleeping with her husband for a long time. With others I judge it when I know the first wife. Now, turn down the venom. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:20 AM Flag
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Your response was "When i see men with their young second wives or girlfriends" - not about this poster, about these situations in general. And your post was much more venemous than mine! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:22 AM Flag
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I'll try to much more clear in the future. Thank you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:24 AM Flag
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clarity would help. I'm sorry, but judging others when you don't know the whole story is a terrible habit [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:26 AM Flag
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so is being sanctimonious [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:28 AM Flag
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np: You are not going to win this one. Just say you are sorry and move on. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:37 AM Flag
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they both need to get over their damn selves this isnt helping op at all, wtf this entire post is these two fat catty bitches fighting [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:39 AM Flag
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meow [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:41 AM Flag
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np; sorry but when a woman knowingly sleeps with a married man, she's got issues. I don't care what you say, a mistress is a mistress at any age. They are both to blame. The woman doesn't get away from the affair clean. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:22 AM Flag
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But how can the responder know that a younger woman with a man slept with him while he was married? or that he was ever married before? You assume WAY too much. in my family's case my dad was separated before he ever met my mom [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:23 AM Flag
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well op noted that the woman knows her children and obviously knows that op and her dh were married [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:25 AM Flag
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yes, but my response was to the perso who said "When I see men with their young second wives or girlfreinds I take satisfaction in the fact that karma is a bitch." [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:25 AM Flag
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maybe you need to talk through your issues with being the child of a young trophy wife [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:27 AM Flag
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ha! assuming again - I'm not the child of a trophy wife - my mom was 39 when I was born, my mom was 32 when they met [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:29 AM Flag
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you said yourself your mom is the second younger wife. maybe you need to add some clarity. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:33 AM Flag
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wow you really are helping the op with her concerns! way to turn this entire post about yourself! good job! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:35 AM Flag
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np: If your dad was 52 when they met (you said above 20 years' difference), she WAS a trophy wife. And she was a big girl, probably handled any comments/looks better than you are. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 03:50 PM Flag
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np: ITA. Get over yourself! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 03:45 PM Flag
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well if this is not the case then you shoudl rest assured that karma will not be a bitch to your family rather than getting so defensive :) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:28 AM Flag
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She clarified that, no ? It seems like you've got issues actually. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:26 AM Flag
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I don't see how she clarified it, thanks? I don't have issues, i just take issue when people go after couples with age differences without knowing the situation [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:28 AM Flag
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seriously, she's was talking about guys who cheat, and women who expect that once they finally get married, then all will be fine. You're totally taking this out of the context of the situation. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:29 AM Flag
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do your children know ? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:18 AM Flag
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they know that mommy and daddy aren't going to be living together anymore and won't be married to each other, they do not know about the other woman - it is a delicate situation bc dc know her [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:23 AM Flag
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that is tough. I'm sorry. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:24 AM Flag
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I'm sure your friends will be kind and understanding, but I also totally understand maybe not wanting to even talk about it / address it / go into it. Do what you have to do to get through the weekend ! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:37 AM Flag
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yeah, i just hope my dc are ok [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 03:39 PM Flag
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do you really consider this a major holiday? just wonderinf [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:18 AM Flag
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well it is just a big holiday in our family, we always have a huge barbecue and just sit back, have fun and relax by the pool with lots of friends and family - our whole block just goes from yard to yard [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:22 AM Flag
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I see. Its great that you have such a lovely neighborhood. Sorry about the divorce but I am sure you will find people being very understanding. You don't have to go into details [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:22 AM Flag
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just spend time with your kids, when you see them happy and smiling it will put your mind at ease [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:37 AM Flag
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dh and I are close to calling it a day too. he took kids to spend weekend with his family who live very far away. I'm here alone. I miss my kids and I'm pretty sad too. Hang in there. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:43 AM Flag
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Do you have people to be with this weekend ? Would you rather just be alone ? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:45 AM Flag
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I might go spend a night at my mom's house. I might go see SATC with a friend tomorrow night. I'm just depressed and really don't have the energy to do anything. My marriage is a mess - my life is unravelling - well, you know what I mean. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:46 AM Flag
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Oh Honey... See the movie. Can you do something just great for yourself tonight ? Buy a great bottle of wine and take a long bath or read a book you've wanted to read or go out with a friend ? I know that feeling of everything caving in, but it is just the ebb and flow of life... The pendulum will swing the other way. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:48 AM Flag
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When? My marriage just keeps getting worse. Now we can barely stand to be in the same room together. I was suppose to go away with dh and kids this weekend, but then he told me that he thought it would be best if I didn't go. THEN..... he's like, so what should we tell my mom? I'm like, um, how about the truth - and then he says, you know she'll be a wreck. OK, is that my problem??? My mom has been a wreck for a long time... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:51 AM Flag
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I was in a class this Am and the instructor read a passage from a book about getting OK with uncertainty. It sounds very touchy-feely and all that, but the gist of it was this is a continuum and the crap is part of the process and while it sucks and we're sad, you just trudge through it to the other side. I wouldn't give a care about his mother and would tell him so. I also wouldn't give a care about how he chose to tell her or not. Your priority - IMHO - should be you and DC and ONLY you and DC. Do you have someone you can talk to ? a shrink ? a friend who's a great listener ? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:54 AM Flag
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Yes, I have my sister, who is so great, and a few very, very good friend. I'm lucky in that sense. I know his family is going to be upset. That is not my problem and I told him so. He wanted to tell them that I was sick. I was like, o.k., and you don't think the kids are going to say something - and, if I were THAT sick, why are you all going - and, don't you think you mom might call me. Finally, I said, tell her what you want but I'm not coughing into any phone. I know things are always changing, and I keep praying that he will see the light some day, and that things will get better. Unfortunately, they just keep getting worse. My sit is also complicated by the fact that he suffers from mental illness. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:58 AM Flag
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Well that's a HUGE complication. Is he being treated or is he in denial ? And do you feel guilty about a divorce because you feel responsible for him since he has this issue ? You haven't said if it is major or minor. Anyway, I hope you do something to make yourself feel happy this weekend. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 03:42 PM Flag
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you'll be ok, i know you probably worry about your kids but i assure you they will be fine - you are overthinking it, they are so youing and innocent they probably won't realize how different things are w/o their dad on the fourth - and if you are very concerned, is there anyway you would be willing to allow dh to be there, if there are many people then you could probably avoid him enough [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 07:12 PM Flag
[ - ] Lawwyer moms- My neighbor wants to install fence. There are some trees on the property line so he wants to go on our side of the fence for 8 ft or else he's threating to cut trees. I want him to sign something saying it will always be our property & he can never take it by adverse possession. CAn you give me 3 sentences what to say? many tia 27 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:45 AM Flag
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why not let him cut his trees [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:47 AM Flag
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what a horrible solution [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:48 AM Flag
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but why should she allow him to take 8ft of her property for his fence? Let him put the fence before the trees or cut them down [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:49 AM Flag
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Not to mention, taking down trees is pretty expensive, I bet he doesn't even do it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:01 AM Flag
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Not Lawyer mom here. Why not put the fence on their side of the trees? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:48 AM Flag
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OP- because my dear, my neighbor is a major piece of work [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:49 AM Flag
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np: I wouldn't let him put his fence on my property but that's me [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:49 AM Flag
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If he's that crazy do not let him put fence in your yard [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:51 AM Flag
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np. I agree. No written agreement will make any differnce once the fence is up. What are you going to do rip the fence down in the future? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:51 AM Flag
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GL then neighbor disputes are a pita. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:50 AM Flag
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np - then I would not do this. Let neighbor cut down trees and put up your own fence. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:51 AM Flag
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^or between the trees incorporating them into the fence. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:49 AM Flag
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ITTTA. No brainer. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:51 AM Flag
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8 feet - that seem like a lot of space. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:49 AM Flag
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Are you sure this is a good idea? He should just go around the trees on his side. I've never heard of someone making this demand [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:50 AM Flag
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OP- it's only 1 foot inside the property line, but runs for 8 ft. So it should be no more than 10 sq ft [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:51 AM Flag
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1 ft is 1 ft of YOUR property. Be damn sure he wouldnt' do this for you. Let him deal with his fence issue on his side. That's your land...to hell with him [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:52 AM Flag
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Sell him the 10sq feet then! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:53 AM Flag
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that's not terrible, but can you instead get him to pay you an amount and resettle your property boundaries to not include those 10 ft? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:54 AM Flag
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It would be 8 sqft. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:56 AM Flag
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np: he could demand all he wants but he doesn't have a leg to stand on if he doesn't own the property and he can't force her either [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:51 AM Flag
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How many trees are we talking about? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:52 AM Flag
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Are the trees old? Are they mentioned in the deeds? Who owns the trees? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:54 AM Flag
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So he gets some of your land and his own way and you get a worthless peice of paper. Once the fence is up he can then do what he likes to the trees and may still cut them down. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:56 AM Flag
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I would not let him put a fence on my property and he is comfortable grabbing 8 ft of your land to fence around the trees, let him put the fence on his side of the trees. he sounds very nervy. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:57 AM Flag
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I would not enter into an agreement with a guy that is this nuts. He will basically have possession of a piece of your property. You'll be dealing with him forever... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:59 AM Flag
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Wife of a lawyer (with a crazy MIL who get in these disputes all the time.) Even if you get the right language, enforcing it will be so time consuming and painful. I know that is not the answer you wanted but reconsider. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:01 AM Flag
[ - ] Learning to read is a developmental process with a wide range of normal - like learning to walk - a non reader in first grade does not mean the school is lacking 6 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:42 AM Flag
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exactly. I can't believe that ppl think a dc should be reading by 1st grade. All kids are diff. and it will come when it comes. The norm is btwn the ages of 5-7yr old. That's ok if the dc finishes 1st grade and just starting the basics. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:44 AM Flag
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I wasn't reading until the end of first grade and I have 150 IQ, once I learned I whizzed onto books for much older kids. It's really not an issue. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:46 AM Flag
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exactly. So many ppl freak out if their dc isn't reading in K. I don't see the rush. I would rather encourage a dc love of reading than discourage it by forcing them to learn at the age of 5yr old when they may not be ready [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:48 AM Flag
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So true! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:53 AM Flag
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agree and the early readers are not necessarily the best. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:46 AM Flag
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np: That is certainly the case with my DS. He started reading on his own at 3yo, but now at almost 7yo, his fluency stinks and it's making it difficult to move on to the next levels of books. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:48 AM Flag
[ - ] how long will it take for us to drive from NYC to DC this eve? 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:34 AM Flag
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At least five hours, depending on how often you stop. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:39 AM Flag
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ok... just hoping traffic won't be too awful [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:41 AM Flag
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5 hr? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:39 AM Flag
[ - ] getting ready to deliver db #1 in the next week or so, and terrified about the birth. tell me why i shouldn't be. 41 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:34 AM Flag
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because you'll have a wonderful db when its all over! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:35 AM Flag
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because you have no option and because you will have the most precious gift in your arms in no time! congrats and good luck! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:35 AM Flag
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it'll be fine. if you are in a good hospital with good doctors everything will be great. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:36 AM Flag
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uh, or delivering at home with a good midwife... or in the hospital with a good midwife... or in a birthing center with a good midwife... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:36 AM Flag
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or: ok, good help, ok? jesus, loosen up. don't be so literal. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:39 AM Flag
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good help works. Thanks :-) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:41 AM Flag
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Because everyone around you with kids has been through it (well, almost everyone) and because once the baby is out you won't care what got him/her there and in a few months after that, you won't really even remember the bad parts of delivery. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:36 AM Flag
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1. do NOT let them induce you without a valid medical reason 2. stay off the external monitor as much as you possibly can and 3. labor at home as long as you can before going in [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:37 AM Flag
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what's a valid medical reason? my doc said she wouldn't let me go more than a week overdue, but i thought 2 weeks after due date was considered normal. i've had a super-easy pg so far, and all seems healthy, btw. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:39 AM Flag
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there you go--inducing one week after due date is NOT a valid medical reason. Induction is the new epidemic, I swear (l&d nurse here btw). Don't do it--say no, you'll wait until 42 weeks. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:40 AM Flag
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np: and as a LnD nurse you know that many things start happening after the 40th week. Dc gets too big, fluid can get low, ect. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:42 AM Flag
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B.S. Anyone who buys that is such a sheep. Stay hydrated, stay active, everything will be fine. A fetus is not going to grow unmanageably big in the space of one week. 37 to 42 weeks is the normal range of full-term pregnancy. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:43 AM Flag
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I was born at 42+3 and only weighed 7lbs! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:44 AM Flag
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np--I was born at 42+3 too!! I was 9 lbs, and my mom is tiny--and everything was still totally fine. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:45 AM Flag
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that is you. I was born at 42 wks and weighed 10 lbs 11 oz. can you say C-SECTION [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:46 AM Flag
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And babies have been born even bigger than that vaginally. Your mentality is the reason we have a 40% c/s rate in this city. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:47 AM Flag
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my mentality? Are you a moron or what. I commented on my mother's experience. Did I say that any baby above 10 lbs can't fit through the vagina? No I didn't. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:51 AM Flag
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I know, but I'm just saying that birthweight can vary greatly at any time - as you see. My mom was very healthy during her pg as well, so you can't blame it on that. I was just small. I was a c-section as well because she labored for 36hrs and I wouldn't come out! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:47 AM Flag
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wow - what do you weigh now? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:52 AM Flag
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me, 7lber is 5'7" and I weigh 130 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:55 AM Flag
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np: Those aren't reasons not to be terrified. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:39 AM Flag
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No, but having some good information can help someone feel less scared. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:40 AM Flag
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There is always pain relief. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:38 AM Flag
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because an epidural is a marvelous thing - makes it totally managable and great [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:38 AM Flag
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blecchchhhhhhhhhh [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:41 AM Flag
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I've done it both with and without the epi and NOTHING makes labor "great." Had a way better time without it, btw [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:42 AM Flag
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I labored for 3 hours before I got the epi, and was SO SO SO much calmer and happier and in control after I got it. To each her own, I guess. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:44 AM Flag
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3 whole hours?!?! Oh my GOD! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:46 AM Flag
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I'm just saying, it was long enough to experience labor without and labor with the epidural, and for me I preferred it with it. My entire labor was only 6 hours, by the way. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:49 AM Flag
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When I was pg, we saw a birth vid where the someone said, it feels like your being ripped in half, but you're not. It's important to remember the "but you're not" part. Less scary that way. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:40 AM Flag
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i think i saw that video! i only heard the "being ripped in half" part, lol. thanks for the reminder! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:41 AM Flag
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it will be fine. If you want to get meds, get them. When pushing, find a focal point in the room and concentrate. I did this 2 times and both times were great [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:40 AM Flag
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thanks, very good advice. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:43 AM Flag
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Everyone who is a mother has done it. Unless you are doing it alone in the woods, there will be competent people around to help you and make sure you and the baby are safe. In all likelihood, the whole thing will only be 1/2 a day of your life. And you'll forget the bad parts immediately as soon as the baby is here. Good luck! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:41 AM Flag
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np. Well you forget it until you read a thread like this one. It's all come flooding back now! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:47 AM Flag
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op: this is where ub rocks! totally needed to hear all the encouraging words from other people who have been there. thank you! i think today's freakout is over, but i might be back tomorrow. ;-) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:45 AM Flag
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You shouldn't be because 1) it is counterproductive 2) it has been done since time began and you will be fine 3) you can have all sorts of drugs. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:54 AM Flag
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because women have been doing it for millenia, and you are going to have medical care available that is better than 99.9 percent of them had. what exactly is scary? the pain? they have drugs for that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 12:39 PM Flag
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It will be fine. Remember the point is not to have a certain "birthing experience" if you come home healthy with a healthy DB that's all that counts. And don't feel guilty about pain relief if you want it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 06:43 PM Flag
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Because I slept through mine. Seriously. Once the contractions became painful, I got an epidural. A day and a half later, they rushed me to the OR for a c-section. I was asleep on the table and didn't feel a thing. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 06:54 PM Flag
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because your body is designed to do this! trust in yourself...for me, childbirth has been the most empowering experience of my life... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 07:16 AM Flag
[ - ] poll: was your child reading by the end of K this year and what was the school? was it g&t or General ed? 74 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 07.03.08, 10:33 AM Flag
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yes. 116, gen ed [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:34 AM Flag
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Every child in the class was reading by the end of K (only one just barely) - D2 general ed [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:34 AM Flag
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which school? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:35 AM Flag
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Now that I have said that one wasn't doing well - I'm kind of afraid to say for fear of insulting the parent. But I will say it is either 41/3/234 is that ok? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:37 AM Flag
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interesting, my kids are older but when they were in K I certainly wasn't keeping tabs on the reading level of every kid in their class. Psycho hover mom. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:39 AM Flag
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hello, you have no idea. The parents are invited into the classroom once a week to choose the correct level books for the children. Those children whose parents cannot come in, get help from the other parents. Name calling, ASSuming mom. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:41 AM Flag
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So coming in once a week you evaluated every single child in the class? you need to find something better to do. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:44 AM Flag
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What is you problem lady. Once a week the parents went thru all the books and helped ALL the children pick out the books that were on their level. No one is evaluating anything. I answered ops question. Why are you on this thread if your children are so old anyone and why are you obsessing about the fact that the parents came into our class weekly to help with reading? Give it a rest. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:47 AM Flag
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I think they shouldn't let you in. Look at what you have done. You check out the kids, have this info and post it on a message board. now all the moms at those schools are thinking some beeyotch in the parent body is assessing their kid and talking about it, even if this is anonymous...its not right. really think the schools should do away with this parent involvement. np, btw [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:54 AM Flag
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public schools need parent involvement. Do you even have a child at a public school? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 02:28 PM Flag
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some schools allow it, some don't. I am happy to be in a school that doesn't allow this sort of thing. the school does a ggod job hiring asst teachers, and parents are not needed in the school in this way. thank goodness. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 06:17 PM Flag
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mp. ITA. This is exactly what I was thinking as I read her post. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:15 PM Flag
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wow. np and i'd have to say you're the psycho mom on this thread. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:48 AM Flag
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she is not psycho. she was just answering the question. BTW, look like you could use a lesson or two in grammar. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:41 AM Flag
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how so? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:42 AM Flag
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thanks! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:43 AM Flag
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look like? stones...glass houses...whatever! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:55 AM Flag
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I know that my ds's class are all reading from going to group things they did and from participating once in a while in the "Parents as Reading Partners" program. -np [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:44 AM Flag
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careful, ASSuming mom will jummp down your throat for having this information! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:48 AM Flag
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I'm more than comfortable with this part of my parenting. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 12:23 PM Flag
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children in my dd's class stood up and read to all the parents. It was painfully obvious who could and couldn't read. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:50 AM Flag
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NP: Was this in K? That sounds like a potentially traumatic experience and I don't see the educational value in this. Was there more to it? It surprises me. My 5 yo has been able to read for 6 mos, but only now has warmed up to the idea. Until now, she's been afraid of making mistakes. So I cannot imagine making little kids read in front of a group of adults (unless they volunteered) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:53 AM Flag
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NNP: In dc's K class, everyone wrote poems, and we had a Writing Celebration, where everyone was supposed to read their own poems. The ones who didn't want to were not forced to, and the teacher read and showed the poem to the class and parents. It was a nice and positive experience for all of the kids, but you definitely can get a sense of the differing levels of the kids, whether or not you cared. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 12:19 PM Flag
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yes, K and not traumatic. If child refused no one beat them into submission :) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 02:39 PM Flag
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Why do people like you hijack posts? OP was curious about something. Easy question, easy answers. Until... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:53 AM Flag
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dd is already reading, starts K in September. Going gen ed. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:35 AM Flag
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which school? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:36 AM Flag
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Decent gen ed in d3. Her grandmother (retired teacher) taught her to read. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:41 AM Flag
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Ditto, going to citywide [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:42 AM Flag
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Mine was not and still not reading well by end of 1st - now finishing 2nd he reads 4-5th grade chapter books alone (all the time because he likes it) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:37 AM Flag
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similar story with my dc -- barely read at end of K, but took off at end of 1st. Now one of best readers in grade -- better than many of the "early" readers who could read in pre-k and loves to read all the time. I try to tell posters here all the time not to push this. If dc has problems in 1st grade and not progressing, then fine, but all this concern about reading before or in K is such a waste and probably makes kids hate to read. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:44 AM Flag
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I so agree with you. better it come naturally. My dc at G&T citywide entered kindergarden and many of the dcs were already reading. The teacher pull me aside and told, "they have been worked with". My dc was reading by the end of the year. Some of the kids were reading at really high levels some were not. All kids equally intelligent. Just some of the kids were worked with at home others were not. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.06.08, 08:42 AM Flag
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no. Mid-first grade. Gen ed. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:38 AM Flag
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Like many of his peers, my ds was reading before he began K at NEST this year. His whole class was readign by the end. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:39 AM Flag
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You do realize that the way you started that sentence, makes you sound totally snobbish and superior, right? "Like many of his peers...." oh Lordy Lordy NEST strikes again. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:42 AM Flag
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thank GOd they have corraled them all together. np [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:43 AM Flag
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whatever -or [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:47 AM Flag
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huh? np here. Did I miss something? Why are you attacking her? There is nothing in what she said that is offensive. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 12:56 PM Flag
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The offense is that I mentioned my ds goes to NEST. There is a UB regular whose childhood dog was hit by a car with NEST+m license plates. Any post which mentions NEST elicits a senseless attack. Then she replies to herself with a post which she closes with "np" [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 01:53 PM Flag
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nah. there are plenty of us who think the nest parents have the biggest egos on the planet. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:15 AM Flag
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"Like many of his peers" pointed out that of course the NEST geniuses can all read before kindergarten. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.04.08, 06:11 AM Flag
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np. It seemed to me she was trying to convey that she doesn't think her dc's early reading means he's The Most Brilliant Speshul Child EVER, because a lot of the other dc were doing the same thing. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:24 PM Flag
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np. ITTTTTA! the nest posters are so full of themselves and such braggarts. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:14 AM Flag
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Define reading. My son can find all his favorite TV programs on the cable guide and tell me when the show is going to be on. He will ID things of his interest in all print materials. Will you say he can read? He is 5 years old. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:50 AM Flag
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I wasn't reading til late in 1st grade and within a few months was reading 200-300 page books. Not a trauma to not be reading in kindergarten! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:56 AM Flag
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Dd was reading at age 2.5, will enter gifted k next fall. Not all the kids accepted into her gifted program are reading, and the principal said they hope all the kids will be reading by the end of the school year. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:59 AM Flag
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Reading at 2.5? What is your definition of reading? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 12:46 PM Flag
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My kid started to read at that age as well. To be honest it is really hard to pinpoint when exactly a child started to read because the learning process is very gradual. Is your kid able to read when he can read his first word w/o having it memorized (how would you know)? When he reads his first book (what kind of book)? That said my child started to read words on sight at around 2.5 years (mostly memorized short words). At around 3.5 he read simple books on her own. At 4 he started to read simple chapter books. He just turned five and can pretty much read anything you put in front of him. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 12:54 PM Flag
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Ditto here. My dc started to read on his own (and self-taught) a few months before he turned 3 yo. He was really motivated to learn. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 03:38 PM Flag
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np; tritto. a girl. just started reading signs and things first and then books. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 06:31 PM Flag
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np. Mine was the same. Sounding out simple 3-letter words and had a pretty big sight vocabulary by then. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.04.08, 06:03 AM Flag
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my child entered K reading. by the end of the year i think most of the kids in his class were, and the ones that weren't were either ELL or the youngest, as far as I could tell. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 12:30 PM Flag
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He just finished K and he's still working on it. I'm not stressed about it at all. He loves being read to, is working on reading things on his own--doesn't do well if I sit down to have him read to me. He's doing writing on his own, unprompted. But I do think many kids came into his class already reading or close--lots of older girls in his class particularly. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 12:49 PM Flag
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DD has been reading since age 3 and a half. Going to district G&T. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 01:22 PM Flag
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Yes, PS 183, gen'l ed. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 01:30 PM Flag
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No. Brearley. No pressure to read at all. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 06:31 PM Flag
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I distinctly remember that during the summer between K and 1st, DS exploded in reading, and suddenly devoured all the early reading books at the library and beyond. DS was at LL, and we were suspicious of balanced literacy and the dopey books and the lack of explicit phonics, but it really worked for him I guess. 2 yrs later, he reads for pleasure at any opportunity (maybe too much!) with great comprehension and expression. Maybe he was always destined to be nerd but I do think LL makes them more likely to be interested in reading and writing, especially writing, they write a lot, beginning in K, and the Publishing Parties are a big deal. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 06:35 PM Flag
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DS entered K reading. All kids in his class were reading by end of K, although levels ranged widely, everything from Harry Potter to Frog and Toad. 1. It doesn't matter when they start reading, so long as they learn and any LDs are caught. 2. If they can read the words and comprehend what they're reading - within hte limits of their social understanding - then, they're reading, not just decoding. A first grader can't read the NYT even if he/she is reading Harry Potter, because they lack the social context. But lacking the social context is different than just decoding. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 06:53 PM Flag
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How many of these "K's" are 6yo going on 7yo or how many are 5yo big difference (mom of young K) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 07:01 PM Flag
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It's public school. Everyone is either 5 or turning 5 by December. Everyone who graduates in June, is either 5 or 6. No one is 7. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 07:12 PM Flag
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np: DS is in public in CA and there is a big range on ages and I can see the difference when I'm in the classroom (when it comes to reading). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.04.08, 06:09 AM Flag
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But in CA a lot of people redshirt their kids, which is the case in NY suburbs too, so the kids are older. In NYC this is no longer allowed, so all kids in the grade are born within the same calendar year. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.04.08, 06:15 AM Flag
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I think that's a good solution. Part of the problem out here is that the cut off is so late--Dec 1st. My oldest is a May birthday so it was a no-brainer. My second is a late Nov. birthday and I feel like we're stuck between a rock & a hard place. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 07:49 AM Flag
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This is not a mark of a good school, focusing on reading in K, as evidenced by all the TT privates who do not stress this until 1st [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.04.08, 06:14 AM Flag
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You make it sound that a TT private is oh so much better when it comes to elementary school education. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 07:47 AM Flag
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np. For offering a well-rounded, developmentally appropriate education, the are. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:11 AM Flag
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^ they. And I would say most of the so-called "2nd tier" privates are also oh so much better than 99% of NYC publics. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:15 AM Flag
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and you have experience with all the TT and 2nf tier privates, the 1% public you find okay, and those 99% of "bad" public schools? I would love how you got all this knowledge. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:19 AM Flag
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I don't need direct, personal experience with those schools to know it's true any more than I need to go to Antarctica to know it's damned cold there. All you have to do is look at the DOE curriculum to know it's true. The scope of their curriculum has become narrower, more remedial and test-obsessed every year. Compared to what most private schools offer, even the best publics aren't as good. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:34 AM Flag
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but you claim there is still a one percent of public schools that are better or as good as 2nd tier privates. How is that possible? And how do you know it is 1% and not .5% or 20%? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:39 AM Flag
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You're being disingenuous. You know perfectly well what I meant. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:43 AM Flag
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I know that you are biased and very closed minded because you throw around numbers that are absolutely not true. That is all I know about you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:46 AM Flag
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Which means in actuality you know nothing about me. Whatever. I'm not interested in trying to convince you that your assumptions about me are incorrect. If you'd like to talk about the schools, by all means let's talk about them. I've made my opinion pretty clear, I think. What's yours? Which publics do you think are as good as the "tt" and most of the 2nd-tier privates? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 08:55 AM Flag
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Of course it is. You don't think a TT private offers a better elementary school education than a public school - any public school? I do. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.07.08, 01:28 PM Flag
[ - ] There is a lot of traffic on the Garden State Parkway northbound and my sister and her fiance are driving north bound to visit us for the weekend. They are stuck in the traffic. Will they ever get to me? They must be so scared and worried? Do you think they could be mugged while they are stuck? 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:32 AM Flag
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get a new schtick already. OMG! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:33 AM Flag
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get over yourself [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:34 AM Flag
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sorry, but i dont think they will make it [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:34 AM Flag
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mugged, is that a JOKE? tell them to pull off, stop for lunch, and get back on the road. scared and worried about traffic? it's not like they're in alaska - they can get off if they're scared! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:38 AM Flag
[ - ] I just found out I'm tranferring from NYC to Portland in 8 weeks...any recommendations for neighborhoods? IS there a good house rental market there? We like to walk to school, shops, ect. and need to be near parks...ds is 4yo thanks! 13 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:30 AM Flag
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oh boy are you in for a surprise. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:32 AM Flag
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Could you be more specific, please? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:33 AM Flag
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the only specific I can give you is rent an apartment in Peter Cooper and send dc to PS40 until you know the city better. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:42 AM Flag
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you need to learn reading comprehension - she is moving FROM NYC TO Portland [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:44 AM Flag
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my bad. you could stand to learn some manners. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:45 AM Flag
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I have excellent manners, thank you - your post was so snarky I thought your error deserved a snarky response [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:49 AM Flag
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I LOVE Portland. SE and SW are great, the area around Klickitat Street (where Ramona from the Beverly Cleary books) lived is IDEAL for kids. That's where my mom grew up. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:32 AM Flag
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np and so funny. I read your answer and was like "Klickitat Street? Why is that so familiar?" and then saw Ramona. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:34 AM Flag
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lol! I LOVED that my mom grew up "next door" to Ramona when I was a kid! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:43 AM Flag
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Maine or Oregon? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:19 AM Flag
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ooh, good question... I assumed OR but who knows... i'd MUCH prefer it to Maine, but that's me... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:20 AM Flag
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OR is fantastic ! I tried to get us transferred there but no such luck. It has great food, beautiful surroundings, laid-back people. Good luck ! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:23 AM Flag
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I LOVE Portland OR! It is so wonderful, and SO much cheaper than the east coast! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 11:24 AM Flag
[ - ] potty training btdt moms (of boys, if it matters): any ideas how to gently encourage ds beyond asking for a diaper to poop in or waiting for his night time diaper to poop? He's set with peeing, but we've been stuck in this other rut for several weeks. I don't want to push, really, but would love to start guiding him towards giving it up. Thanks. 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 07.03.08, 10:30 AM Flag
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this is the most common p/t issue. It just takes time. If you KNOW he's having them at night see if you can work on his schedule and get him to have one during the day while keeping underwear on him - one poop in undies and he'll want the potty [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:33 AM Flag
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we had one poop in undies one morning, and I think that's what started the diaper thing. Until yesterday he was in a diaper for naps, too. But now he basically won't let you take off his diaper in the morning if he knows he's going to poop, or, like I said, waits until bed and then poops two minutes before the light goes out. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:35 AM Flag
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do not push the poop issue or he will begin withholding - and try to make you happy - and end up with chronic constipation and years of problems - I've seen it more times than you'd believe [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:36 AM Flag
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Yeah, that's why I don't want to push him. He does need to be potty-trained for preschool in the fall, though, which is my only worry. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:37 AM Flag
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you have 2 months, it will happen [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:39 AM Flag
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then play it cool now - [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:39 AM Flag
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^^and he will know he can't ask for a diaper at preschool and wait until he gets home (worst case scenario) - You don't need to say that he isn't potty trained [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:40 AM Flag
[ - ] For anyone on who has been divorced and is middle class (not rich), could you please talk about what divorce was like financially? 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:29 AM Flag
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I have thought about it. Just think you have to fund two households instead of one and can't be good for all involved. Part of what keeps me from thinking more about the option [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:30 AM Flag
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boy, imagine how many unhappy couples stay together just by virtue of living in New York. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:35 AM Flag
[ - ] twin moms -- how soon did you start showing? what besides the ultrasound and high hcg level were indicative of multiples? 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 07.03.08, 10:27 AM Flag
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I am 15+ wks with twins, measuring 18+ weeks. I was exhausted as soon as 4 weeks...we knew early because of fertility treatments, but I think the exhaustion was a sign as well. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.08.08, 12:30 PM Flag
[ - ] How much do you pay your live in Nanny (on books or off)? What are his/her hrs? 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:20 AM Flag
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700/wk 2 kids 50 hrs. Gave metrocard when kids needed to be taken to/picked up from school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:23 AM Flag
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Is that supposed to be a perk -- not making her pay to pick up/drop off your kids? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:39 AM Flag
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Well, considering it is a monthly pass she has it to use for herself as well. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:57 AM Flag
[ - ] Grammar Moms: Is it, "I feel like I was helpful," or "I feel as if I was helpful?" 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:19 AM Flag
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I am NOT a Grammar Mom by any means but neither sound particularly great to me. Can you give a bit more of an idea of what you are writing [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:30 AM Flag
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I feel I was helpful. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:36 AM Flag
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^^^or ... I was trying to be helpful. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:37 AM Flag
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Grammar mom here: I feel that I was helpful, unless you're saying you feel as if you were helpful (but you weren't). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 12.11.08, 02:58 AM Flag
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"I feel as if I WERE helpful" -- "as if" takes the subjunctive [ Reply | More
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General Topics 12.11.08, 04:23 AM Flag
[ - ] Is $15.00 hourly for sitter of 2 (toddler/nb) working 40-45 hrly weekly cash fair? We live upstate. 9 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:14 AM Flag
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probably fine... that's a lot of time though for a "sitter". are you home at all? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:15 AM Flag
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we are actually both "home." We run 2 businesses though, so WAH. I just hesitate to use word "nanny" for some reason (silly quirk). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:17 AM Flag
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ok. if you're home and going to be there to help or spend time with both dcs then $15/hr is fine. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:19 AM Flag
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she also lives down road and now (altho will be ltd more with nb bfing) takes DS to her house almost entire afternoon...and I know she is preparing meals, cleaning etc...very flexible. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:21 AM Flag
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sounds like you have a great situation! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:27 AM Flag
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No. That's what teenage babysitters get paid. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:39 AM Flag
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you're crazy. $15/hr for 40-45 weeks ends up as $600-$675/wk which is more than I make in my job that required a master's degree to obtain [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:40 AM Flag
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So stay home and raise your own kids. Just because you can't afford a nanny doesn't mean you're entitled to one. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 06:40 PM Flag
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That's on the high end of what nannies in NYC make. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:50 AM Flag
[ - ] How many oz of pumped breast milk or formula does your 8-9 mo drink? We were giving about 5, but he seems to want more than that. I've just introduced solids (at six mo) and now formula, so I have no idea what's what. tia! 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Newborn 07.03.08, 10:13 AM Flag
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ask your ped? if he wants more, I would give him an extra ounce and see what happens. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:14 AM Flag
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ds is like a goldfish, he'll eat whatever is in front of him. He's 80th% for height and 45% for weight, so we feed him a bunch. I'm just confused as to the liquids, esp when I'm at work and my parents have him. I'll ask the ped, but I'm hoping someone has some sage words on here..... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:17 AM Flag
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well, my 7mo has been drinking up to 8oz for the past 2 months. It's usually somewhere around 5-7oz. Your db actually will stop when he's full so give him as much as he wants. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:33 AM Flag
[ - ] we put dd (2yo) in a toddler bed about two weeks ago. we have since experienced many bedtime issues. first, she doesn't want to go to sleep and comes out a thousand times (we have been sitting in there with her the last few nights for at least an hour until she goes to sleep). second, she has been waking up 2-3x per night and crawling into bed with us. i usually put her back in her bed but last night she got up 3x and the fourth she must have just crawled into bed with me without me waking up because she was asleep on me this morning. help! what did you do when this started happening? 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:07 AM Flag
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Gate on the bedroom door. Works well for us. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:09 AM Flag
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Do you still have the crib? We put dd in bed for naps and used the crib for night, until she asked to sleep in the bed. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:18 AM Flag
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We moved ds at 17mo and initially tried naps in the bed but nights in the crib. Once he was happy napping in the bed we took the crib away. I think it was easier as he was a bit younger and probably a bit more flexible than he would have been when older. It still took about 3 weeks before he would stay in the bed all night. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:28 AM Flag
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op: how did you get your dcs to nap in the bed? dd won't even stay in there and if i sit in there she just plays and talks. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:32 AM Flag
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We just kept to the normal nighttime routine and when that was done we tucked him into bed and said goodnight and left the room shutting the gate behind us. If/when he got out we only went back in if he was upset. If he was playing quietly etc we left him. If he was upset we went in and put him back in bed without making a big issue of it and left again. If he fell asleep outside the bed ie in his chair we used to move him back to the bed. It did take a few weeks - GL [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.08, 10:44 AM Flag
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