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[ - ] My period was due last Thurday, no sign of it yet, we use a condom but the day before the period we did the pull out method, took a pg test yesterday and it was negative, do i still have a chance to get my period or am i doomed? 11 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:42 AM Flag
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no, it's too late for conception [ Reply | More
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what do you mean? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:44 AM Flag
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You can not O the day before your period is due, sorry [ Reply | More
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i don't want to be pg, don't be sorry [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:46 AM Flag
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op, has this ever happened to anyone? period is late just because? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:44 AM Flag
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if you ovulated late you could be pg but not enough to get a pos test yet. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:45 AM Flag
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oh god, when should i test, the discharge was dryish on that day fwiw [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:46 AM Flag
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2 weeks after the unprotected sex [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:52 AM Flag
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but really, if you did ovulate late, you are just as likely to get your period (just late) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:56 AM Flag
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i ovulate late so ther eis a chance if you are like me [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:47 AM Flag
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Anxiety may delay your period. I hope you get the result you want. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:03 AM Flag
[ - ] I'm looking for a bassinet that has a removable basket I can take around the house. I know PBK makes one, but I'm hoping to find something cheaper. Anyone seen one of these? tia 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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Expecting 05.26.08, 07:41 AM Flag
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Why not just get the mini co-sleeper with wheels? You can wheel the whole thing around the house. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 03:53 PM Flag
[ - ] Do you think progressive schools are bad? When does Dalton switch to more traditional? MS or HS? 18 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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New York City 05.26.08, 07:39 AM Flag
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We love progressive education. Do you think it is bad? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:43 AM Flag
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I thought I loved it. I still do. Just read Helicopter mom who sent dc to progressive elem school then to NEST middle and said her dc learned nothing in elem and blames elem school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:56 AM Flag
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What is with all the helicpoter mom blog posts today? There are so many, I'm beginning to suspect someone here has an agenda. But, let's say that your post is legit. Why on earth would you let an anon blog about one school, one child and one mom change your opinion? Don't you have any other criteria to base you decision about progressive/traditional school for YOUR child on? It is most definately a child by child thing. MY dc was crushed in traditional school, thriving in progressive (extremely bright - so that was not the problem) It isn't always easy (and you can guess wrong - I did), but give it your best shot and good luck. And nothing that is done, can't be undone. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:03 AM Flag
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Someone posted about Heli mom and I never read her blog before. Read it bec everyone freaked about reading. BTW, does progressive school use TERC and Whole Language? I wonder if privates use something else. My teacher friends told me they hated TERC and Whole Language (balanced literacy??) and said there are thousands of kids who never learned properly bec of this. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:12 AM Flag
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You are trying to lump all progressive together in one big lump and assume they all use the same reading and math programs. That simply is not the case. So, don't speak in gereralities - it gets you no where. Our progressive school uses Investigations (commonly referred to as terc here) and explode the code (phonics based). My friends traditional schoool uses investigations and balanced literacy. Collegiate uses terc. What schools are you considering and what gives you pause? BTW, with investigations, my K child does double digit addition/subtraction mentally. What more do you want in a K child? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:16 AM Flag
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oh, thank you for sharing. I don't know anything about private schools. I heard Collegiate is traditional, so I'm surprised that they use terc. I guess all is well, then. I was exclusively looking at schools that are more progressive but had second thoughts bec of Heli mom blog just this morning. Then again, she said she used Dalton's English teacher as a tutor and was very happy with it, so it must be fine... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:22 AM Flag
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I don't think those methods (terc etc) are what defines progressive education and now most schools use some mix of trad and prog. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:31 AM Flag
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Straight from my moms mouth, "if everyone jumped off a bridge would you?" Don't freak! Wait and see if there is a problem. And then don't freak. Just fix it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:18 AM Flag
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here is a great explanation of balanced literacy. http://schools.nyc.gov/Offices/TeachLearn/OfficeCurriculumProfessionalDevelopment/DepartmentofLiteracy/BalancedLiteracy/default.htm [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:21 AM Flag
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Every private school in NYC with which I am familiar with uses the Explode the Code phonics-based workbooks to teach reading. I know of one public school (PS 3) that uses it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:46 AM Flag
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my children go to an extremely progressive private school and they use explode the code, as well as a number of other methods, depending on the needs of the particular child. but they don't teach reading until first grade. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.27.08, 07:23 AM Flag
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LL and NEST could not be farther apart. Perhaps the problems are not 100% on LL's shoulders. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:05 AM Flag
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It's not bad, but it really depends on the kid- many thrive under more structure- the general rule of thumb is progressive works best for earlier grades and when the academics hit- structure is best. I teach at an alternative HS fwiw- nursing the smart kids who got demolished under structure- our class model is more like college where the kids get more independence and real - world type learning. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:50 AM Flag
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Tell me where, I suspect my dc is headed there. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:51 AM Flag
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what makes you think there is a lack of structure in the progressive teaching model? My child's school is very, very progressive, and is also very, very structured. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.27.08, 07:25 AM Flag
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I think progressive schools tend to better serve kids from higher socio-economic backgrounds--those who have a lot of cultural capital already. I think traditional education imparts more information to children and this is important for kids who do not know have the tools that work well in the predominant culture. (I'm speaking of elementary school and up.) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:50 AM Flag
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I'll add a tidbit - it is very hard for lower socioeconmic groups to trust progressive ed - [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:53 AM Flag
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I agree with this. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:42 AM Flag
[ - ] 3 mo has a pimply rash all over her head. what could this be?!? 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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baby acne [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:38 AM Flag
[ - ] We have 3 kids and I think I'm done. Should I get my tubes tied? Is it expensive or is it reversible? 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:22 AM Flag
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Get an IUD, same failure rate as tubal ligation and doesn't require major surgery. Also a lot cheaper and removeable. [ Reply | More
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Thanks, like merina? [ Reply | More
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yep [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:34 AM Flag
[ - ] What city do you live in and what's your home's sq footage? 10 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:15 AM Flag
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westchester burbs/1775 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:15 AM Flag
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NYC (Brooklyn); 800 sq ft [ Reply | More
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brooklyn, 1500 + 300 courtyard. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:30 AM Flag
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Burlingame, CA - 2800 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:16 AM Flag
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bergen county suburbs of NJ 6000 sq ft [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:21 AM Flag
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Wow. Do you ever get lost? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:22 AM Flag
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UWS/NYC: about 1550 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:51 AM Flag
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Miami--2,000? not positive [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:53 AM Flag
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jackson heights, queens - 1500 sf [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:53 AM Flag
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Westchester burbs, 2700 will be expanding to 3000-3200 sq ft [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.27.08, 02:23 PM Flag
[ - ] Has anyone gone through a gut renovation? How long did it take if your home was approx 3000 sq ft? 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:10 AM Flag
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14 LONG months. Historic renovation [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:54 AM Flag
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1200sf apt took 5 months, 1200sf home took 6 months. We're about to start a historic renovation on a 4000sf home (like the poster above) and we are expecting it to take at least 12 mo. Probably more. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:56 AM Flag
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good luck (above poster) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:12 AM Flag
[ - ] Where is helicopter Mom blog? 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:07 AM Flag
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goodcityliving.com [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:47 AM Flag
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http://www.goodcityliving.com/ [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:48 AM Flag
[ - ] looking for hotel recommendation for a friend coming to NYC from Germany. i live here so have no idea about hotels, but know that they are looking for something "reasonably priced". i'm not sure what their budget is, or how much a hotel room for 2 people would even cost in NYC. any suggestions/recommendations welcome. they probably would like to be downtown, if anything comes to mind. thanks in advance!! 13 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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New York City 05.26.08, 07:00 AM Flag
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^^ btw, they've asked me if staying in Brooklyn would be cheaper. i have no idea where there are even hotels in Brooklyn. would it be cheaper? they're staying for a week, btw. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:04 AM Flag
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You have no idea where there are hotels in Brooklyn? Really? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:17 AM Flag
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I'm thinking that there are some in Downtown Brooklyn, but really don't know. I live in North Brooklyn, and there aren't any up here... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:18 AM Flag
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Weird. There's a Marriott just over the Brooklyn Bridge and a Holiday Inn Express on Union Street in Park Slope. There's also a Best Western in Bay Ridge. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:20 AM Flag
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weird that there are none up here, or weird that i don't know? i remember seeing one (maybe the marriott) somewhere down there, but don't spend time in those neighborhoods. have been to bay ridge once (to go to century 21), and if we go to park slope it's to go to the museum/zoo/gardens/park, and i've never seen a hotel there. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:23 AM Flag
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I'm just surprised that you're not familiar with the fact that there are hotels in Brooklyn. There's actually been a fair amount of press about these hotels and what that means about Brooklyn as a destination in and of itself (rather than just an appendage of Manhattan). But then I don't really know anything about North Brooklyn either so there you go. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:26 AM Flag
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tripadvisor.com is a great resource for things like this [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:08 AM Flag
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thanks. will send this url to them. does around $200/night sound "reasonable" for nyc hotels? I have no idea what hotels cost! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:13 AM Flag
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Park Central is great, looks fancy and is one block up from Central Park West (on 7th Ave) but has very reasonable rooms. I stayed last year for 129 a night. Very central good location [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:13 AM Flag
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thank you for the recommendation! i'll mention it to them. they're a little vague about where they'd like to stay and how much they want to spend (they've never been to nyc before), and i'm clueless about hotels in nyc. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:14 AM Flag
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OOps, one block up from Central Park South [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:15 AM Flag
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You can easily do some research yourself, you know! Just do a search for nyc hotels [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:18 AM Flag
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yeah, but it's helpful to have recommendations from other moms. i have never stayed in a hotel here, so i can't really recommend one over another... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:24 AM Flag
[ - ] What age do you start putting sunscreen on infants? 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 06:50 AM Flag
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6 mo [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 06:51 AM Flag
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when they are in the sun. just buy the physical barrier creams instead of chemical and don't put it on hands. clothing and shade is the best solution, but if your baby will be in the sun, a little sunscreen is far preferrable to a burn. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:28 AM Flag
[ - ] 6 month old has new cry. Sounds constipated but has been regular once a day. She is pulling on her left ear while she does it. Is this part of teething or possibly an ear infection? 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 06:46 AM Flag
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Unless she's been congested and/or has a fever, it's probably teething. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 06:47 AM Flag
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Ok she doesn't have congestion or fever. Thanks. When do you start w/Orajel? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 06:49 AM Flag
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It never really did much for us. I tried Hylan's teething tablets, which sometimes worked, or Motrin [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 06:49 AM Flag
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Good to know. Thx. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 06:50 AM Flag
[ - ] I think all the prepping moms whose young dcs got 99s on olsat are starting to freak that their kids will be in over their heads at anderson. serves them right. prepping is not a good idea. our dc got a 99 (high at that) without prepping and I have no concerns whatsoever that he will do well, and likely be at the top of the class as he has always been. you insecure moms likely do not have a truly gifted kid or you would not be fretting. 38 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 05.26.08, 06:45 AM Flag
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Absolutely NO prepping and 99 as well but, at least according to helicopter mom's descriptions of grading system at NEST, one doesn't get good grades based on whether you know something or not and it's about following very detailed rules... If it's all about smarts (though one can argue 4yo testing is not accurate), I would not worry. It's the other things (she said if you didn't bring an accordion folder, points were taken off).. I wasn't planning to be like that, but I wonder if everyone else will be like that. That's all. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 06:49 AM Flag
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np: please tell me you are not basing your concerns on crazy helicopter mom's perspective? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:51 AM Flag
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I won't but it was shocking. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:54 AM Flag
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I highly doubt that that's how they grade at NEST. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:32 PM Flag
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If anyone is watching/cares: this is not an accurate description of how my kid's grades seem to be earned/awarded. I mean either you spell 10 words correctly or you don't. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.27.08, 07:41 AM Flag
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Some kids who test well will not do well in school due to learning disabilities that become more clear around 1st and 2nd grades. This has nothing to do with intelligence. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 06:51 AM Flag
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I don't think these nervous nelly moms asking about reading among entering k kids are anywhere near worrying about LDs. they are just competitive anxious moms, wanting their kids to be the best, but worrying that they are not. I find it sad, actually [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:43 AM Flag
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You are wasting your time if your point is to establish a precise link between test performance for 4/5yos on these standardized tests and academic ability, especially if parsing between 99s. Really, just be happy with your kid and don't be concerned about what others do. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:07 AM Flag
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I am not endorsing the tests, and clearly think they are preppable. nonetheless, some kids need no prepping and do well with the task. those kids are more likely to be smart IMO, and not to need lots of pushing to perform well and learn [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:45 AM Flag
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honestly, you sound insanely obnoxious. bragging about how your high 99 is so much better than everyone else's dc. it's pathetic how you measure your self-worth in terms of whether your ds is at the top of the class or not. talk about an insecure stage mother! did ds bomb the onsite at anderson last year or something and is now at a school not worthy of him? why all the bitterness? agree with poster above that the lengths you are going to try to prove these tests are in any way meaningful just make you look like an idiot. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:22 AM Flag
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Well said. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:23 AM Flag
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ita! love it when there is a voice of reason on here [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:35 AM Flag
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dc has bombed nothing. 99 on all tests, very smart, always has been. could care less about the tests as clearly they are preppable and a wide range exists among top scorers. nonetheless, all these people who have average kids who have been prepped to a high score are the ones freaking and worrying about reading in their 4 yos. they are idiots and their kids will suffer for it [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:35 AM Flag
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The expression is "couldn't care less." "Could care less" means he cares a great deal [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 04:14 PM Flag
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Why are these allegedly "average" children your concern? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.27.08, 10:28 AM Flag
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I feel sorry for your kid [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:48 AM Flag
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you should save your pity for the kids of all these crazy moms prepping their 4 yos and worrying over whether they can handle the school they get placed in. I would not have done that. I support my dc at whatever level he is, and he is happy, well adjusted and doing very well. i would not have prepped. I would want my dc to be in a program for which he is suited. unfortunately, the moms on UB want prestige and the "best" whether their dcs can handle it or not. they will always worry, and will be here asking these questions all the ay through school with their dcs. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:38 AM Flag
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Why do you assume others prepped? If your dc can get 99 w/ no prep, why cna't the others? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:42 AM Flag
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I am not saying everyone prepped. Just the ones who are exptremely worried that their kids cannot perform at a rigorous G&T like anderson. I think they are worried because they do not think they have innately gifted kids. people with innately gifted, non-prepped kids are rarely worried about this stuff. you know when you have a very smart kid [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:47 AM Flag
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I think people are worried bec grades are not based on whether the kid knows the stuff or not, but based on stupid things like whether you brought an accordion folder and reading a book silently after you are done with your midterm (after handing it in) while waiting for others to finish... Which sounds ridiculous. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:50 AM Flag
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nest may be a ridiculous place, who knows? but all schools will eventually ask kids to follow the rules and do homework, privates included. I don't think these people worrying about the dc's intelligence and performance with reading are worrying about folders and things [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:53 AM Flag
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I was worried about these inane stuff that has nothing to do with knowledge. Of course, everyone has to learn rules, etc. but missing a test bec spending the whole day in ER is not acceptable to the school sounded unreal. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:58 AM Flag
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np: you sound sane, and I understand your point. you have made it in an obnoxious way, but you are not wrong. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:49 AM Flag
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ita. she could have made exactly the same point without mentioning her childs "high at that" 99. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 09:00 AM Flag
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he's always been at the top of his class? like at gymboree? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:52 AM Flag
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you i like. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 09:19 AM Flag
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There are different forms of prep. And judging from your obnoxious note, I can't believe that you didn't prep in some form or the other. It may not have been books and flash cards but a "my son will likely always be at the top of his class" is a pushy helicopter mom. Clearly you need to get a life.. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:56 AM Flag
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no, really nothing like that. the kid is gifted and its obvious. I do nothing and he seems to hunger to learn everything and anything. that is why I was not worried. he is driven and always has been. I am actually too laid back for him, and am realizing it now [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 02:59 PM Flag
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does he get his smarts from dh? because this post is borderline illiterate. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 05:18 PM Flag
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And you have nothing to do with him being so "driven" at all of 4/5 years old? God let my dcs not be in the same class/school as this seemingly brilliant child - I might have to actually meet his obnoxious mom. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 05:48 PM Flag
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there are other kids like this out there too. they cannot help who they are. so for the sake of these kids, let's hope you are not around them. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 06:04 PM Flag
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I doubt it an they won't be in over their heads. That test is crap and a all the prepping in the world will not get a 75 to a 99. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 05:50 PM Flag
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true. the bump from preppring is a couple points, max. but i guess op wouldn't want her high 99 sullied by some mouthbreathing 99 that's really a mere 97. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:03 PM Flag
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"mouthbreathing" snort! lol! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:10 PM Flag
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we prepped some and for us i think it might have been the difference between a shot at a citywide or not. ds got a 98 on the olsat and a 96 on the sb. if only i'd known to drill him on unusual 3-d shapes, we may have had a chance at anderson. ; ) i don't believe prepping can make a huge difference. i also don't think all the "high 99s" end up distinguishing themselves academically as you might expect. it's all pretty random who winds up at these schools and it's all pretty debatable who deserves to be there. that's my two cents. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:16 PM Flag
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I disagree. No matter how much you prep, the kid still has to answer the questions. The answers still came out of the child's mind...the kid had to understand the question, think it through and come up with the right answer. No amount of prepping can take away the fact that the kid answered the question correctly. (and I am not talking about people getting the actual test, I'm talking about doing practice tests at home.) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:18 PM Flag
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OMG, you are obnoxious. Why is another child any of your concern? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.27.08, 09:28 AM Flag
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Hi everyone, I'm the owner of early reading tutoring service where we teach children ages 3 and up how to read. I just wanted to comment on my experience prepping children for the all the erb/olstat/G&T tests. I think it's very, very taxing on children and even teaches them to despise learning. Especially for a 3 or 4 year old. I am very good with children and am a great teacher, but I personally witnessed this many times. A 3 or 4 year old would be learning to read with me, and the parents would request the extra prepping, and I'd see the same child that was having so much fun learning, go from really making progress to not wanting to have anything to do with school for months after the prepping and taking the test. Personally, I think investing your child and your money into learning to read, learning an instrument they love, and learning a language which are all great tools that enhance a child's mind and mental health is the best way to go. Check out Reading In Preschool if you're looking for a reading program that shows amazing results and teaches a child to love learning! [ Reply | More
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[ - ] Anyone take classes at NY Kids Club (E 67th?) or Music Together (E 50's). How are they? Looking to sign up 14 mo for something new. We've been doing little maestros and moonsoup. 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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^^^ sorry, mean Hands for Music (or something like that) rather than Music Together. I've heard that Music Together is miserable for the adults. [ Reply | More
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I love Music Together. I think it depends on the teacher. [ Reply | More
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oriental trading company [ Reply | More
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Yup. Really good for a broad range of cheap fantastic crap. [ Reply | More
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