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05.26.08, 07:39 AM New York City
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Do you think progressive schools are bad? When does Dalton switch to more traditional? MS or HS? [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
New York City 05.26.08, 07:39 AM Flag
 

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We love progressive education. Do you think it is bad? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:43 AM Flag
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I thought I loved it. I still do. Just read Helicopter mom who sent dc to progressive elem school then to NEST middle and said her dc learned nothing in elem and blames elem school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:56 AM Flag
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What is with all the helicpoter mom blog posts today? There are so many, I'm beginning to suspect someone here has an agenda. But, let's say that your post is legit. Why on earth would you let an anon blog about one school, one child and one mom change your opinion? Don't you have any other criteria to base you decision about progressive/traditional school for YOUR child on? It is most definately a child by child thing. MY dc was crushed in traditional school, thriving in progressive (extremely bright - so that was not the problem) It isn't always easy (and you can guess wrong - I did), but give it your best shot and good luck. And nothing that is done, can't be undone. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:03 AM Flag
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Someone posted about Heli mom and I never read her blog before. Read it bec everyone freaked about reading. BTW, does progressive school use TERC and Whole Language? I wonder if privates use something else. My teacher friends told me they hated TERC and Whole Language (balanced literacy??) and said there are thousands of kids who never learned properly bec of this. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:12 AM Flag
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You are trying to lump all progressive together in one big lump and assume they all use the same reading and math programs. That simply is not the case. So, don't speak in gereralities - it gets you no where. Our progressive school uses Investigations (commonly referred to as terc here) and explode the code (phonics based). My friends traditional schoool uses investigations and balanced literacy. Collegiate uses terc. What schools are you considering and what gives you pause? BTW, with investigations, my K child does double digit addition/subtraction mentally. What more do you want in a K child? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:16 AM Flag
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oh, thank you for sharing. I don't know anything about private schools. I heard Collegiate is traditional, so I'm surprised that they use terc. I guess all is well, then. I was exclusively looking at schools that are more progressive but had second thoughts bec of Heli mom blog just this morning. Then again, she said she used Dalton's English teacher as a tutor and was very happy with it, so it must be fine... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:22 AM Flag
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I don't think those methods (terc etc) are what defines progressive education and now most schools use some mix of trad and prog. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:31 AM Flag
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Straight from my moms mouth, "if everyone jumped off a bridge would you?" Don't freak! Wait and see if there is a problem. And then don't freak. Just fix it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:18 AM Flag
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here is a great explanation of balanced literacy. http://schools.nyc.gov/Offices/TeachLearn/OfficeCurriculumProfessionalDevelopment/DepartmentofLiteracy/BalancedLiteracy/default.htm [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:21 AM Flag
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Every private school in NYC with which I am familiar with uses the Explode the Code phonics-based workbooks to teach reading. I know of one public school (PS 3) that uses it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:46 AM Flag
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my children go to an extremely progressive private school and they use explode the code, as well as a number of other methods, depending on the needs of the particular child. but they don't teach reading until first grade. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.27.08, 07:23 AM Flag
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LL and NEST could not be farther apart. Perhaps the problems are not 100% on LL's shoulders. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:05 AM Flag
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It's not bad, but it really depends on the kid- many thrive under more structure- the general rule of thumb is progressive works best for earlier grades and when the academics hit- structure is best. I teach at an alternative HS fwiw- nursing the smart kids who got demolished under structure- our class model is more like college where the kids get more independence and real - world type learning. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:50 AM Flag
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Tell me where, I suspect my dc is headed there. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:51 AM Flag
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what makes you think there is a lack of structure in the progressive teaching model? My child's school is very, very progressive, and is also very, very structured. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.27.08, 07:25 AM Flag
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I think progressive schools tend to better serve kids from higher socio-economic backgrounds--those who have a lot of cultural capital already. I think traditional education imparts more information to children and this is important for kids who do not know have the tools that work well in the predominant culture. (I'm speaking of elementary school and up.) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:50 AM Flag
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I'll add a tidbit - it is very hard for lower socioeconmic groups to trust progressive ed - [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:53 AM Flag
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I agree with this. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:42 AM Flag
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