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[ - ] are hanky panky thongs as great as everyone says? if so, i'm a size 27 jeans, would i need to order the HP thongs in small or medium? tia 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:57 AM Flag
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I LOVE them -- it's the only underwear that I wear. I believe that the thongs come in 1 size fits all. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 09:14 AM Flag
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They are the greatest invention. I believe they only come in one size as well. I prefer the low rise ones. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 12:41 PM Flag
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I prefer the boyshorts, my absolute favorite underwear. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 12:44 PM Flag
[ - ] Any experience traveling to the DR in June? Looking for a last-minute relaxing getaway and travel agent is pushing punta cana. I'm worried about rain. Is it too risky? 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:55 AM Flag
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WTH is up with TA pushing punta cana? Mine just got pissed at me when I said I didn't want to go there. Needless to say- no longer using her [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 12:41 PM Flag
[ - ] Most "experts" say the window for reading is age 5-7. FWIW 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 05.26.08, 08:53 AM Flag
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meaning 7 falls within normal range, not that you can't learn after seven obviously [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:55 AM Flag
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Agreed--Hunter principals says that it is a developmental skill that kids pick up when they are ready and it does not signify that a child is or is not gifted. Yes, a lot of gifted children are early readers but not being an early reader does not mean you are not gifted [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 04:19 PM Flag
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Thank you for posting this. I don't think it can be said often enough - people don't seem to get it! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 04:39 PM Flag
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Exactly, in fact many gifted children read on the later end of the spectrum of normal. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 04:41 PM Flag
[ - ] Is it true that specialized HS admission is based on middle school grades? Except for Stuy? Is MS grading based on a curve? 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 05.26.08, 08:45 AM Flag
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Admission to Stuyvesant High School, Bronx Science, Brooklyn Tech, American Studies at Lehmann are all based on a test. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:48 AM Flag
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so it doesn't matter what the grades are? no teacher recs needed? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 10:04 AM Flag
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Not really. LaGuardia is based on audition/portfolio along with academic & attendance. There are 8 HS which admit on the basis of the SHSAT (specialized HS admissions test): Stuy, Bronx Sci, Brooklyn Tech, HS of American Studies at Lehman, Brooklyn Latin, HS for Math Science & Engineering at City College, Queens HS for the Sciences at York College and SI Tech. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 10:00 AM Flag
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^^Other selective HS also use a combination of factors. Beacon HS requires a portfolio & interview + grades, test scores & recommendations. Bard HS administers its own test to kids who qualify through test scores, then interview. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 10:05 AM Flag
[ - ] Longshot...anyone know where to buy very nice map? One suitable for framing? I just started googling and was wondering if anyone here knew of a specific site. It's a 10 year anniversary gift (we just came back from a wonderful trip and would like to get a map of the area). 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:42 AM Flag
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are you in NYC? i went to an art store/shop near the light house/william sonomo in the 50s UES. They had these great antique maps i got one for DH he loved [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 09:22 AM Flag
[ - ] is it weird to invite people for 4th of July without kids (just not enough space in the apartment) 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:37 AM Flag
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yeah, that should be a family day. especially weird if your own kids will be there [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:48 AM Flag
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yes, v weird. unless its an evening, cocktail do [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:48 AM Flag
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its not cocktail, but it is evening [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:49 AM Flag
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as in after bedtime? where will your own dcs be? might be difficult to get a sitter on that day [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:52 AM Flag
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its at 7, mine might be home, but thats one, not 16. i just cant do that [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:53 AM Flag
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so have a party on another day. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 09:02 AM Flag
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I would invite fewer people so the kids can be there or do it on another day. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 09:18 AM Flag
[ - ] argh. 2.5 yo son going up to other moms at the park "I don't say damnit!" 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:19 AM Flag
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lol, where did that come from? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:48 AM Flag
[ - ] craigs list: "antique pottery barn dresser" wow, how long has pottery barn been around? 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:11 AM Flag
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lol. 80s. could be worth something some day, as it's not doing too well these days. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:29 AM Flag
[ - ] Does anyone know if Gringer and Sons (appliance store on 1st avenue) is open today? 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:03 AM Flag
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they might have a phone [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:11 AM Flag
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212-475-0600 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:15 AM Flag
[ - ] How many parents of Profoundly gifted children are on UB? (IQ 99.9%tile (147) and baove on SB5) 55 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 05.26.08, 07:52 AM Flag
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The other day, there were 3 moms of PG kids. But all different ages. If you are supposed to find a PG kid per 1000 kids (99.9th percentile), then there must be a lot more. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:57 AM Flag
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Actually, it doesn't work that way. For some bizarre reason, everyone is refering to this percentile chart, but each test yields different results. For example, the same IQ score in SB4 and SB5 do not mean the same thing. It's easier to get higher score on SB4 than SB5. You will not find 1 kid of IQ 99.9% in SB5 per 1000. it's more like 1 per 10,000-100,000 or more. It is very strange there are so many PG parents on UB. I wonder if they understand what a PG means. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:05 AM Flag
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I'm sure some do not, but I am the poster below. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:07 AM Flag
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How old is your dc? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:11 AM Flag
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5 yo [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:13 AM Flag
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Does your dc's mile stones reflect dc's IQ score? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 09:01 AM Flag
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:14 AM Flag
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They don't make each IQ test to fit into that percentile chart. Some test have lower ceilings and some have much higher ceilings. Some tests are outdated. For example, same IQ score does not mean the same depending on when they took the test due to flynn effect. For example, if you look at IQ 140 in SB4 taken 1978 and in 2002, there would be much less people with IQ 140 in SB4 in 1978 than in 2002. Supposedly IQ score goes up 3-4 points every decade. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:56 AM Flag
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Yes, I know that. I'm not talking about absolute IQ numbers. I'm talking about percentile of SB5. I know SB5 IQ numbers are much lower than SB4. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 09:00 AM Flag
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It's the same thing. There are much fewer kids who score 99%tile or 99.9%tile in SB5 compared to SB4. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 09:02 AM Flag
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right. this is the confusing part since, by definition, 1 on 100 kids get 99th percentile on SB5, and 1 in 1000 get 99.9th percentile and so forth. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 09:06 AM Flag
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No, it doesn't work that way at all. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 09:09 AM Flag
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But that is the definition of percentiles. If they have miscalculated, that is one explanation (which means they must have overestimated due to flawed sampling in their research) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 09:14 AM Flag
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Test makers do not devise each test to fit into that percentile chart. Each test has different ceiling. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 09:18 AM Flag
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it's 1 in 1.1 million. not 1 in a thousand. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 05:17 PM Flag
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I have one. 99.96% on SB5. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:01 AM Flag
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Do you know all the subtest scores? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:10 AM Flag
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No [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:14 AM Flag
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How come you don't know all the subtest scores? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:50 AM Flag
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np; she was lucky to have a tester who gave her decimal points but didn't pay for consultation? My dc's tester refused to give decimal point and even when we paid for consult, didn't show us subtests or results at all. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:52 AM Flag
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Testers usually do not give decimal points unless you do consultation. In oder to get decimal points, you have to have all the subtest scores, which is what they give during consultation. It is important to see the subtest breakdown to understand the profile of the child. Then, what did you pay the consultation fee for? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:59 AM Flag
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She absolutely refused to show us subtests and calculate decimal point. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 09:01 AM Flag
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What was her ground to refuse to provide you with subtests breakdown? If it's below 99%tile, there is no decimal point. That could be the only reason I could see why. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 09:05 AM Flag
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99th percentile, said hunter doesn't require it and once you make the cutoff, that's that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 09:10 AM Flag
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You don't need to have consultation to get the score for Hunter admission. People do consultation if they need to see the subtest breakdown and to obtain, if applicable especially for those above 99%tile, exact IQ scores. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 09:21 AM Flag
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They only give you the percentile (not including decimal even above 99) if you don't pay and even if you pay, they won't necessarily give you all the info you ask for. Trust me. BTDT. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 03:18 PM Flag
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Then why do you pay for consultation? What is the reason the tester to withhold the information? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 03:36 PM Flag
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I assumed she would give all info. I thought I was entitled to it. Don't ask me. No report, nothing. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.27.08, 02:57 PM Flag
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Hunter's cutoff is not PG, just FYI.The 99th percentile does not equal a diagnosis of Profound Giftedness. It simply means the child is in the 99th percentile. Profoundly gifted children rarely actually fit into even a highly gifted school setting. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 07:56 AM Flag
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np; her dc probably hit the ceiling on most of the subtests. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:15 AM Flag
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SB5 allows you go beyond the ceilings. That's how you can get decimal points. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 09:00 AM Flag
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huh? SB5 has ceilings, too. And a lower ceiling than SB-LM which is why some are calling for the return of SB-LM to estimate those whose IQs are truly out of the ballpark. SB5 can estimate only up to 160, using SB5 scale. If you max out, they're saying, SB-LM may be more useful than SB5 at that point. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 09:04 AM Flag
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There is Extended IQ scale for those who score beyond IQ 150 or so in SB5. SB-LM is such an outdated test, nobody is taking it seriously. So far, I haven't heard of anyone who need to use Extended IQ scale in SB5 even if their score is beyond 150 in SB5. The threshold to use Extended IQ Scale in SB is extremely high. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 09:08 AM Flag
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SB5 maxes out at 160 so the extended scale must be used after 150, then? Anyway, the scholars were advocating for SBLM only for kids who max out at 160 in SB5. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 09:11 AM Flag
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No, nobody is suggesting to use SB-LM anymore. No institution is accepting SB-LM scores. SB5 is the best IQ test so far. As for SB5, even though the ceiling is 160, you can obtain, theoretically, much higher score if a person indeed has that capacity. As I said, no one has had the need as far as I know. That's how difficult to reach high scores in SB5. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 09:16 AM Flag
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What's the PG score on the SB4? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 09:55 AM Flag
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Davidson accepts 99.9%tile in SB4 as well. However, according to the research, there are much fewer kids who scored 99.9%tile in SB5 compared with SB4. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 10:44 AM Flag
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But I don't think that Davidson only accepts Profoundly Gifted kids. I think they also accepted EG, maybe even HG, kids. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 10:45 AM Flag
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They accept 99.9%tile in verbal or non-verbal scores as well. In those case, their Full scale scores may not be above 99.9%tile. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 10:47 AM Flag
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Davidson has very narrow parameters for acceptance. The scores must be there, one above 145 or 99.9%, but they also require the child demonstarte "extereme" precocity in one or more areas. They also have a portfolio option for acceptance, but the burden of demonstrating extreme precocity is heavier with this option. Our DC was accepted at just after 5 y/o with a 99.99% scoring. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 07:51 AM Flag
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Davidson only accepts kids who have completed FIFTH GRADE, not four year olds! You folks are out of your minds. Your DC are not likely little Einsteins, they just test well, like mine, at a young age. Don't take that as if it's a diagnosis and you need to make sure they get treatment. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 06:41 PM Flag
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What are you talking about? They accept kids from age 5. If you're talking about Davidson Academy, it starts from Middle school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:14 PM Flag
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This poster is referring to the Davidson Academy and teh academy accepts children who are ready for sixth grade work. The Davidson Young Scholar Program accepts children as young as 5, but used to accept four year olds. They have recently changed this policy, as well as admission requirements for the WPPSII III to score above 150. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 07:59 AM Flag
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DS got 163 on SB. Is that PG? He's a happy, normal, social, really smart kid. I'm kind of weirded about by this whole discussion [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 11:14 AM Flag
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Depends which version of the SB he took. I'm guessing it's an older version since the 5 ceilings at 160. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 11:27 AM Flag
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There is no 163 in SB 4 or 5 unless you're talking about SB-LM which doesn't mean much. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 11:32 AM Flag
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163 on SB LM is like what on SB 5? 125'ish? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 03:16 PM Flag
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You can't convert IQ score from one test to the other. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 03:33 PM Flag
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WHat are sb4 and sb5? Are they NYC school tests or something? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 11:19 AM Flag
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No. They're two versions of the Stanford-Binet IQ test. The SB5 is the most recent version. It's a standard IQ test used all over for a wide range of ages and different purposes. Google for more info. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 11:29 AM Flag
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My son got a 160 on the Weschler. How does that compare with SB4 and SB5? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 11:20 AM Flag
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What version of Weschler and when did he take it? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 11:31 AM Flag
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Weschler scores are much higher and will be depressed a lot if you convert to SB5. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 03:19 PM Flag
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according to SB5 tester a few years ago, dd's IQ is 145. doubt that makes her pg though. or even highly gifted. all i know is that she's very smart and socially mature. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 11:33 AM Flag
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DS got 153 on SB5. He was dinged Hunter round 2. Going to district G&T. But may be apply private TT this fall(fall birthday). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 08:16 AM Flag
[ - ] What things can make your period be late other the the obvious being pg?(funked biology btw) 6 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:48 AM Flag
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^^flunked [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:48 AM Flag
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weight loss/stress [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:50 AM Flag
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does it have to be extreme stress? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:51 AM Flag
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extreme is different for everyone [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:52 AM Flag
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np: ita. i missed my period totally when i was doing some exams in high school. i didnt even feel particularly stressed but it never turned up that month. I was quite happy to tell the truth [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:04 AM Flag
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STRESS [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:52 AM Flag
[ - ] My friend SAH, husand makes about 500K, they bought their house for $1M and they cry poor all the time. It's really annoying. 8 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:44 AM Flag
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They probably put no equity into their home and have a whopping mortgage at a high rate- which might put their income on the same level as someone making 150k at that- [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:48 AM Flag
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oh no. they sold their condo for a pretty profit and put all of it in the house [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:49 AM Flag
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They must waste money if they have no savings. Or does she just like to whine? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:48 AM Flag
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i think she likes to whine. i have no idea. they don't live super extravagently. they all have nice clothes though [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:50 AM Flag
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i have friends like that. sunk $1mil+ into a place in bklyn and love to complain how much renovations cost. but also love to use the complaining as a way of bragging how much money they're spending. it's so annoying! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:55 AM Flag
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yep they are renovating too. if they have enough money to renovate, then they shouldn't complain about money!!! i just think that if DH ever loses his job, they'll have no idea what to do. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:58 AM Flag
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ugh, cant stand people like this. are they wealthier than you? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:02 AM Flag
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this is kind of us (except now there is no HHI as dh left firm). we don't cry poor, but we def don't feel wealthy. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:33 AM Flag
[ - ] Is there any truth to some of these methods for ttc a boy? 1. Douche with baking soda/water 2. Eat things with lots of potassium, like bananas 3. Drink Alkaselzter (sp?) or is just a bunch of crap? Isn't it just more timing and the 50/50 chance that the male sperm will reach egg first, assuming you want a boy. 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:43 AM Flag
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50/50 always [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:50 AM Flag
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i've never heard of that. sounds stupid to me [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:54 AM Flag
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the only thing I've heard that makes any sense is having sex right before ovulation (as opposed to a few days before) - whether it works or not is another story [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:00 AM Flag
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