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[ - ] Do you have a risky job? why or why not? 0 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 06.20.08, 10:00 PM Flag
[ - ] What are the top K-5 or K-6 as well as middle schools in District 3 closer to West 90s / central harlem? Zoned District 3 in our area of Harlem. TIA 8 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Preschool/Kids 06.20.08, 09:58 PM Flag
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Are you looking for top zoned schools? For top unzoned schools, there's the lottery for Manhattan School for Children (333), which is also the lottery to fill spots (if any) at 199, 87, 75. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 10:05 PM Flag
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Continuing on elementary schools, there are also the gifted schools/programs. Hunter is on the UES and has its own admissions process. The DOE G&Ts are either citywide (Anderson on UWS, TAG on UES, NEST on LES) or district. The best D3 G&Ts are at 9, 166, 163. Oh - and Special Music School down by Lincoln Center which is a citywide I believe. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 10:08 PM Flag
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The best d3 middle school is probably Delta. There's also Anderson but very few spots since many kids stay and they don't expand. Lots of families like Center School, but that starts in 5th grade so dc needs to leave elementary school early. Others like Manhattan East and Mott Hall 2 and Computer School in D3. Also Hunter adds 200 kids in 7th. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 10:14 PM Flag
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Don't forget MSC [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 04:00 PM Flag
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Not for ms. They have great elementary but ms hasn't gotten up to speed yet. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 04:18 PM Flag
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OP asked for top k-5 schools. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 04:20 PM Flag
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MSC (333) was mentioned in the first OR. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 06:09 PM Flag
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PS180, Hugo Newman College Prep, is really excellent. But the zone is tiny--Morningside Park to Frederick Douglas Boulevard, 115th to 122nd, and they only have 4 or 5 lottery spots a year for kids outside the zone. You can also try for MSC or 87 or 84 through their lotteries. Or maybe Central Park East. And then there are lots of G&Ts in the area. But if you're in Harlem, unless you live in the PS180 zone, you're going to be looking for the luck of the draw with various G&Ts and lotteries. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 06:52 AM Flag
[ - ] DH has been working megahours but under bad conditions, went out for drinks tonight with colleagues (to discuss new head of dept who's a Micromanager). He's making good $ but getting calls from recruiters to take another job. we need to buy a house next year and I see the crap he puts up with at work, always stressed out, leaving for work tomorrow 6 am. In the meantime, I've gotten a better job $ with more flexibility and I am feeling his stress more and more. WWYD?? He should interview for the job but now I'm earning 4x what he does and I'm starting to wonder if he's just afraid of change? 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 06.20.08, 09:53 PM Flag
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is he in a diff. industry than you? maybe that's why he makes less. if the quality of life isn't working for him, then he needs to look for another job... have you discussed your feelings about his work with him? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:55 PM Flag
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try to but too busy with work and kids. finally set up date night. whew [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:57 PM Flag
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Has he been at the job a long time? He may feel afraid to make a move. He should at least go on the interview. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:57 PM Flag
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They called him six months ago and he's convinced they can't match what he earns now but he hasn't tried. but yet he complains and is stressed out. came home tonight, I said it would be nice if we could talk, he said, "no, I have to be up at 6" [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:59 PM Flag
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He's stuck in a rut. Probably needs a little push to at least try. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 10:25 PM Flag
[ - ] Really annoyed and I think its unfair that I have to pay more in tuition so that other dcs can get FA. Also tired of parents assuming my kids get FA just because we are black. 31 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 06.20.08, 09:35 PM Flag
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Should have gone public then. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:40 PM Flag
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Don't like public. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:41 PM Flag
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Then don't complain. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:43 PM Flag
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Its UB I get to complain. Had to get it out somewhere [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:43 PM Flag
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But what did you get out? You have pay the tuition regardless of FA. One has nothing to do with the other. As for other parents' attitudes, I'm with you there. But once again, you're the one who chose to send your dc to school with parents like that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:49 PM Flag
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There aren't that many options. How many ind private schools are there with minority children where people aren't assuming that black dcs are on FA [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:52 PM Flag
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MCS since everyone's on a sliding scale [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 10:02 PM Flag
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MCS? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 10:05 PM Flag
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Manhattan Country School? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 10:05 PM Flag
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So that's one school out of how many in NYC? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 10:11 PM Flag
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Oh, I agree. Maybe UNIS or Family School too but I didn't visit them. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 10:16 PM Flag
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where does your dc go to school? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 10:23 PM Flag
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To public [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 10:34 PM Flag
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Then suck it up and stop your whinging. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:45 PM Flag
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i hear you on the assumptions about black and fa but quit your bitching about paying more so others can get fa. socio economic diversity is important. gives people opportunities they may not otherwise have. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:50 PM Flag
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I know more families like me that would send their DC to independent private if it cost just a little less. There is a certain income bracket that makes too much to get FA but private is painful to pay for without living like a pauper. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:53 PM Flag
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np - That's most of my friends & we are all in public [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 10:06 PM Flag
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Let me guess you live on the UES or UWS right? Not everyone lives there. And public schools in other parts of the city aren't so great [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 10:13 PM Flag
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Yes, UWS. Where do you live? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 10:15 PM Flag
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^^^But it's UWS with a terrible zoned school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 10:15 PM Flag
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Brooklyn [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 10:18 PM Flag
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Your tuition doesn't even cover the cost of your child's education at private schools, much less subsidize anyone else's. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 02:36 AM Flag
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Exactly. OP has no idea about the economics of running a school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 02:55 AM Flag
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yup [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 11:28 AM Flag
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Financial aid is NOT provided based on your tuition costs. Endowment does. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 11:20 AM Flag
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Ugh, you make me sick. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 11:29 AM Flag
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You don't pay more to give others FA. FA comes from other funds, not tuition paid. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 11:56 AM Flag
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One has nothing to do with the other. Financial Aid usually comes from endowments, grants etc. set up for that. This poster sounds fake IMO. Who would assume you are getting financial aid because you are black? Most of the people of color I know with kids in private make so much more than DH and I. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 12:07 PM Flag
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I'm curious as a mother of a black son -- why do you choose a school for your dc that is not racially or socioeconomically diverse? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 01:26 PM Flag
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not the OP but mother of a black son in private. There were things that had a greater impact on my choice of school for my son than diversity. His social/family life is full of racial/socioeconomic diversity. I don't count on my son's school to provide all of his needs. I do my best to make up for what the school lacks. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 02:49 PM Flag
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Black mom with ds in private here. I really don't care what the other parents think as long as my son is happy and getting a wonderful education. And yes, we get FA. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 02:40 PM Flag
[ - ] I loved watching the NYT video on the International HS's first prom 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 06.20.08, 09:18 PM Flag
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What is International HS? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:35 PM Flag
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It's a new hs in brooklyn graduating its first class this year, all for immigrants to the US. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:36 PM Flag
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How wonderful! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:37 PM Flag
[ - ] my 6yo dd wants to learn to play the drums and my 8yo ds wants to learn the clarinet - is it too young? 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 06.20.08, 09:14 PM Flag
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no, as long as they're not allowed to practice a thome.... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:15 PM Flag
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meant "at home" [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:17 PM Flag
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not at all. good ages, actually. But if you live in NYC you'll need a plan for how to practice the drums (i.e., not in the apt) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 04:16 AM Flag
[ - ] am i just dreaming - 43 ttc for 8 months - i have three kids fro previous marriage - 20yo dd, 11yo dd and 9yo ds; my dh has one from his previous relationship - 10yo dd; we have a 15mo dd together and want to have one more - am i too old, have i used up all my good eggs? dh is younger than i am and really longs for one more child 10 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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TTC 06.20.08, 09:11 PM Flag
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it can happen, but if you really, really want another, i might go the medical route since time is of essence. but you've had children before, and one less than two years ago, so that's a good sign that you're fertile... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:14 PM Flag
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Geez stop while you're ahead [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:14 PM Flag
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why cant she? just because everyone in ny stops after 1 or 2 doesn't mean big families cant happen - especially witha new marriage [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:18 PM Flag
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Why deal with it? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:26 PM Flag
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deal with it? you say it like it is a burden - for her, this will complete her family [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 10:40 PM Flag
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Another sad old grannymom. Plus she's neglecting her other kids. It's not all about babies. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 03:30 AM Flag
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calling a 43 year old a grannymom?! you are a jerk! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 03:38 AM Flag
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you are a young b____ mom [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 09:23 AM Flag
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hang in there. U r not Old!! It can happen. Good luck. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 04:52 AM Flag
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statistically, your chances are very low without fertility treatments (pretty low even with treatments, actually). You really should see a doctor asap if you are serious about this. Anyone that is over 35 is recommended to see their doctor if they have been trying for more than 6 months. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 09:26 AM Flag
[ - ] 99 sb and olsat not prepped AT ALL - why would I lie here? 10 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 06.20.08, 09:02 PM Flag
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ditto. knew no prep was nedded. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:14 PM Flag
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i didn't necessary know that no prep was needed - i just felt ok with the chips falling where they fell [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 06:36 AM Flag
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I believe you. But I feel no shame about prepping. I tell people IRL, too [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:21 PM Flag
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Ditto. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:25 PM Flag
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Tritto. And there are many who post here whose dc's got 99 on ERB, SB and olsat. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 10:14 AM Flag
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fine line here. sending dc to preschool where they may prep him/her, reading to them, enrichment, etc-not every family can do that. not tutoring for testing but certainly "prepped" [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:27 PM Flag
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I think there's a difference between prepped and prepared. What you're describing is the latter. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:28 PM Flag
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could go either way-still falls under category of "prepped" though. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:36 PM Flag
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The VAST majority of kids who take wppsi--iii for ERB purposes have parents who can afford to cough up 30+k for private school. Middle to upper, upper income. Rare is the private school applicant dc whose parents don't read to them, do enrichment or send to preschool (and the prepping activities you refer to are things I did in a Canadian preschool long, long ago). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 02:52 PM Flag
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I don't think one can prep for SB. Olsat, people do it all the time. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 10:13 AM Flag
[ - ] It's crazy to put "real" (read $$) art in dc's room, yes? 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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New York City 06.20.08, 08:52 PM Flag
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I have real art in ds's room. Paintings by his grandfather and great-great-uncles. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:53 PM Flag
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Do you worry? The art in question is very expensive, and I just feel like I won't be as comfortable as I am now just letting the kids play unsupervised in their room. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:54 PM Flag
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I don't worry. In theory, it should be in a humidity controlled environment. But I would rather ds enjoy his grandfather and great-great-uncles' work than preserve the work to museum standards. I would NOT, however, use heavy frames that could hurt ds if he pulled them off the wall. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:56 PM Flag
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np: I was just thinking how we have humidifiers going ALL the time in the winter. would NEVER work in our home. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 04:39 AM Flag
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not a great idea. i had some "real" art that my DD somehow yanked off the wall... yikes!!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:15 PM Flag
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ds' room has very high ceilings; i have some of my paintings in there and artwork by some famous (in the art world) friends - i just try and put them in places where there is a bit of a blockade and i have them secured very well [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:25 PM Flag
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depends on how old. I wouldn't do it when they are young (you never know what they'll do) but once they are a bit older (8?) it could be a great way for them to be proud and take an interest in the arts. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 04:14 AM Flag
[ - ] would you consider sending dc to a brand new independent school that would be starting with only one class (K)? the school has a potential to be really wonderful, but i am slightly worried that being so small (15 kids) will be *too* small. thoughts? 18 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 06.20.08, 08:51 PM Flag
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ugh! no way! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:52 PM Flag
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Personally for me, 15 kids or 30 kids for several years is a bit too much. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:56 PM Flag
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from op: that's part of my worry. the alternative though is public school w/ 25+ in a class in a big city school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:02 PM Flag
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not really bad. btdt. even 25 can seem clostauphobic socially over time. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:19 PM Flag
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No way. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:01 PM Flag
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to those answering "no way", could you elaborate on what your concerns would be? i'm really on the fence, and do see some advantages to such a small setting, and find being one of the founding families to be an exciting opportunity. but i also worry that the setting would be too small. what would the ideal be for you? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:05 PM Flag
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currently have a dc in a class of 25. can't wait until the year is over and dc can get a new mix of kids. certain cliques have formed and it is a bit tense with the end of the year looming. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:14 PM Flag
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I said "no way". My dc is older and I've found that if you have a very very small class/grade like that, it only takes a couple of kids to make it a difficult social situation. Now - it could be a great class of course. But unlike at other schools, with at least 50 in a grade, you can't have a bad year and then the kids get shuffled for the next year. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:34 PM Flag
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my dc is in a small school, which we love, get to know everyone, kids get chances to be involved in lots of ways. builds confidence. it isn't for everyone but we like it [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:29 PM Flag
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I would if you get a really good vibe for the other founding parents. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:37 PM Flag
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from op (still watching post...): we really do like the energy & vibe of the other parents. feel like our family would really fit in there. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 04:56 AM Flag
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what school or where is it? curious. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 05:51 AM Flag
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If you are really concerned about your child's education, go with the best educational option. Children don't necessarily need a large social group in school just so long as they have a broader social life in the rest of their life. Kids who are homeschooled, for example, are usually found to be the most well-adjusted socially (as well as academically surpassing their peers who attend large schools.) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 06:16 AM Flag
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ita. We chose the small school with 16 per class. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 06:51 AM Flag
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Chances are this school will keep growing. I have a few friends who really "bought into" the mission of certain new schools (as opposed to being there byu default) and they have enjoyed the process of growing a new school. Make sure you have friends at more established schools with whom you can share ideas....especialy those with older kids....liek a school mentor. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 06:51 AM Flag
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No way. We got claustrophobic over the 2 years at pre-K with only 2 classes of 17. DD and ourselves are ready to be a part of a larger population, to meet more people and different kinds of families. I like big schools, as long as they are well run. That's why I live in NYC--constant stimulation of new ideas, new people. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 07:02 AM Flag
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What school is this? The Blue School? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 07:09 AM Flag
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15 kids sounds great - I wouldn't go to a brand new school because of issues related to management/administration and infrastructure -- how to handle certain issues, etc. A more experienced school administration can make a big difference... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.22.08, 11:29 PM Flag
[ - ] I am wondering how my 94th% was placed at ps11. We are pleased, but it seems like mostly high %s were offered spots. 10 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 06.20.08, 08:50 PM Flag
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There were some bizarre things that happened. I know someone with a higher score that ranked it high and did not get it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 03:36 AM Flag
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Seems like motst of the DC are 97-99. Things happens. Don't worry, I hope your DC will thrive there. GL! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 04:57 AM Flag
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mabey they are different gender? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 04:58 AM Flag
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PS 11 will be really great G&T school. Will ve very popular and need very high score next year. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 11:37 AM Flag
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I think people who didn't list every choice got placed later, at least withing their percentile, perhaps overall. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 12:49 PM Flag
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You do know that there is no real difference b/t your dc and those who scored higher, don't you? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 11:58 AM Flag
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ITA. My DC got 99 on SB for Hunter. IQ is 160. However OLSAT was 95. I am sure so many 98-99 OLSAT DCs who have been accepted Anderson or Nest didn't even make Hunter cut off. The other hand, many of SB 98-99 DCs did very poorly on OLSAT, like 80s. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 01:00 PM Flag
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how old was your dc when he/she took those tests? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 01:03 PM Flag
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SB;4yr2mo. OLSAT;4yr4mo. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 01:11 PM Flag
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probably has to do with getting an encouraging tester for sdb. olsat is bare bones and you either deal or you don't. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 01:32 PM Flag
[ - ] Anyone here w/ a dc on meds for ADHD? Has suppressed appetite / weight loss been an issue for dc? Our dc was already skinny and started on meds a few months ago. We're having a hard time getting dc to eat. Just isn't interested in food, we don't want to turn it into a big power struggle, but dc is looking even skinnier. We go back to the doc soon to check in so I'll ask for professional advise then, but I'd like to hear from other parents. 31 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Preschool/Kids 06.20.08, 08:50 PM Flag
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call your MD!!! it galls me that a doctor would put a kid on these meds and tell you to check in infrequently. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:52 PM Flag
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I did. We go in on Monday. We've been in contact with dc's ped and the neuropsych who evaluated dc but I feel like their advice has been useless. So far dc hadn't lost any weight but I think when we go on Monday they will find that dc has lost some now. I don't trust our scale 100% but I trust my eyes. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:01 PM Flag
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We tried meds for all of a week. The side effects were terrible. We stopped the meds and tried a special diet (no sugar, no wheat, no dairy, no processed foods) along with occupational therapy. It works for us. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:52 PM Flag
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We tried dietary changes and behavioral therapy to no avail. The meds are a last resort, but we're continuing with the behavioral therapy as well. I'm HATING this. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:57 PM Flag
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But if the meds are causing harsh side effects, you may not be able to continue. It is very hard, but you will have to try all the alternatives until you find a combo that works. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:59 PM Flag
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I know. I'm scared they're going to say we need to try a different drug and I just want to stop. I feel like we're poisoning our child, but I was also at the end of my rope w/ dc's behavior, and the behavior has gotten better since starting the meds. But at what cost? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:07 PM Flag
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we had a similar situation. felt the drugs were poisoning dc. felt there were side effects and worried about long term brain effects and development. decided to stop the meds. having tried them gave me new resolve to work on the problems behaviorally again. was hoping for a magic bullet, but it wasn't that [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:16 PM Flag
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How has the behavioral approach been going since you stopped the meds? Do you work with a therapist? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:27 PM Flag
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Did you try holistic route? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:00 PM Flag
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Sorry. I don't want to sound stupid but I'm not sure what you mean by holistic? We tried eliminating sugar, processed foods, preservatives, etc. and we've done therapy. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:03 PM Flag
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Eastern medicine. I have heard of kids who benefitted from identifying the child's constitution and derive treatment principles and methods (pressure, massage or other modes). One can also get herb formulas that might help. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 10:12 AM Flag
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I'm not really familiar with Eastern medicine or herbal formulas for treating ADHD. Have these treatments been researched scientifically? Are there any studies I can look at? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 04:12 PM Flag
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This is a relatively new field in the US, so I'm not sure if there are studies already. Having said that, there are numerous reasons why you couldn't construct scientific, double blind studies with eastern meds - each patient has to receive customized treatment but in scientific studies you have to treat same points for all patients which go directly against the principles of eastern medicine (won't work). Also, when I read some studies done, they were designed by MDs who really have no understanding of how TCM works. Anyway, if you are going to wait till "proof" I don't know what to tell you. However, you might be able to find from National Institute of Health or World Health Organization a list of diseases or syndromes that TCM has so far been found to be effective. Thing is there are many studies who show efficacy of TCM but it's not possible to show cause-effect in Western sense. I think physicists (medical) could probably identify Qi in the body and show the meridians in the future but we don't have the technology yet to show this in physical terms. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 04:29 PM Flag
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A quick Google search: http://www.healing-arts.org/children/ADHD/herbal.htm#Formulas and a very short article http://www.acupuncturetoday.com/cgi-bin/forum/showcase/pacific_college.pl?read=10 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 04:36 PM Flag
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please don't go this route. in addition to weight loss, the dc's growth (height) will be affected, not to mention the risk for developing mood and substance abuse issues in the future. there are good behavioral programs out there. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:55 PM Flag
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Do you have experience with this? Can you recommend someone? TIA! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:04 PM Flag
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np: you might also post your question on the special needs board at the "other" UB (you know what I mean, right?) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 04:13 AM Flag
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Under the Stages category? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 01:04 PM Flag
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There a lot of different ADHD meds out there and not everyone of them suppresses the appitite. Madication unfortunitly is a lot of trial and error. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 05:14 AM Flag
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most do suppress appetite, and remember you are experimenting with your dc's brain [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 08:04 AM Flag
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Which ones don't suppress appetite? I have been doing a little research in preparation for our visit to the ped and every drug I've seen lists weight loss or appetite suppression as a potential side effect. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 04:06 PM Flag
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You're giving your kid speed. of course it's going to suppress his appetite. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 08:17 AM Flag
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np. i tend to be generally anti meds. but i also know that it's not easy to have a child with adhd. if your child really has it, the meds are beyond helpful for briniging a supremely chaotic household back to normal. don't judge unless you've been in the situation. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 04:08 PM Flag
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Thank you for posting this. (OP) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 04:09 PM Flag
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no prob. that poster clearly doesn't know what it's like. fwiw, i don't know first hand either. this is from my SILs experience with her son. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 04:11 PM Flag
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Then you've at least seen it up close even if you don't live with it. Please believe me when I say this issue was destroying our family. The meds scare the hell out of me but we reached a point where we had to try them. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 04:15 PM Flag
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you don't have to convince me. do i think there are people who give things to their kids (prob on a drs advice) bc they can't handle normal behavior? yes. I'm sure there are. But you know if you have your child's best interest at heart. what someone here says based on no infomration means nothing. you know if you're doing it for the right reasons and that's all that matters. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 04:18 PM Flag
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You're right. Thanks again. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 04:24 PM Flag
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I don't have a kid with ADHD, but it is astonishing, and astonishingly cruel, how judgmental people are. Why would you assume that someone giving their child ADHD medications is just a lazy parent looking for a quick fix? THOUSANDS of parents do this. Are they all lazy? Are they all stupider than you? Are they unable to perform even the smallest Google search? The poster above is right: medication is not a magic bullet. Like anti-depressants, apparently different ADHD drugs work differently in different people for reasons that aren't well understood. But then, I guess all those people taking anti-depressants are ignorant sponges, too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 11:12 AM Flag
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Who are you responding to? No one here has called anyone else lazy or claimed meds are all about a quick fix? Are you just in the mood to rant or what? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 12:40 PM Flag
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i agree. my SIL and BIL finally decided to give their son meds for ADHD after trying many many other things. it was a last resort for them and it made a huge difference in their lives includinng my nephew's ability to function and their ability to function as a family (with another child too). and this is my SIL, so you know i'm not giving her any breaks on this. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 04:10 PM Flag
[ - ] what is the most scandalous tidbit about yourself? 11 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 06.20.08, 08:45 PM Flag
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i have an ex-boyfriend's name tattooed on my lower left hip - going to get it removed after i am done having dc [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:56 PM Flag
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well it isnt that scandalous atleast in the unknown part - i gave birth to my ds on my 15th birthday - people that do not know about that think he is my step-son though bc my dh is 13 years older than me and has a 14yo dd, we have a 3yo dd and i am currently expecting [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:02 PM Flag
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I don't get it. How old is the kid? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:13 PM Flag
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had him at 15 - he is now 25 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:16 PM Flag
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i worked at hooters in college [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:05 PM Flag
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i'm in the porn industry [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:17 PM Flag
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before dh and i met i was in a long-term relationship with a woman - not scandalous, but shocking i wojuld assume [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:20 PM Flag
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does your dh know? i had several such relationships (long ago) and will not tell dh. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 04:15 AM Flag
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yes, but he doesnt know about all of them - just that one bc it was very committed [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 09:19 AM Flag
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I'm so pissed, I cant think of anything!!! darn! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 04:47 AM Flag
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i have a heart tattooed on my ribcage [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.22.08, 12:21 PM Flag
[ - ] this weather just woke up all three kids - dh is sitting with our scared 13 month old son and daughter, i lucked and breast fed our brand new dd who passed out in 5 minutes flat but now i cant sleep! 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Expecting 06.20.08, 08:44 PM Flag
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aw i feel your pain! normally my girls wake up, but they sleopt through it and i woke up [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:54 PM Flag
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that's good. i've convinced my kids that thunder and lightening are awesome so it doesn't bother them. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:18 PM Flag
[ - ] Does anybody care about the ranking in the whole new york state? Anderson: No.1; LL: No. 9; Nest: No.21. I paid for getting this information. 53 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 06.20.08, 08:38 PM Flag
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what about ps9? we are heading there in the fall. and what is this ranking, btw? tia. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:40 PM Flag
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let me check. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:41 PM Flag
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sorry. I just save the data for the ranking to 150 and did not find ps 9. my membership is overdue. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:46 PM Flag
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What is this membership in? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:47 PM Flag
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in 2004: P.S. 9 Sarah Anderson School: ranking: No 21 in 2005: P.S. 9 Sarah Anderson School: ranking: No. 63 in 2006: Anderson School (The): ranking: No 1, but no the name of P.S. 9. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:54 PM Flag
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2006 was a bad year for some reason. also, ps9 shows reults for gen ed and G&T. wonder what it would be if looked at G&T only [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:58 PM Flag
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yes, I think this is the reason. Andeson, nest, LL are all G^T. BUT PS 9 is mixed. so it does not show up before 150. but no G^T data alone for PS9. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:02 PM Flag
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Also the reason is the seperate Anderson and PS9 data starting from year 2006. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:03 PM Flag
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Not so great either. Not many 4s in PS 9 G&T for ELA; about half for math based on surveying my class. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 06:27 AM Flag
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np: Was this last year? I am hearing the ELA scores are not good this year once again (as far as getting 4s anyway), really hope it does not mean even more test prep now that my dc is hitting those grades. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 10:35 AM Flag
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Not sure what you're talking about. What are those rankings for? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:40 PM Flag
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4th grade math and science [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:44 PM Flag
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This is based on...? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:44 PM Flag
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PS 187? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:44 PM Flag
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let me check. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:46 PM Flag
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do find ps 184: ranking 69. did not find ps 187 before 150. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:56 PM Flag
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PS 11? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:48 PM Flag
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do hunter kids take these tests? if so, are they below anderson then? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:50 PM Flag
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hunter kids don't take these tests [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:52 PM Flag
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they are exempt from state tests though? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:57 PM Flag
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np - See below. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:57 PM Flag
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I think they just do not follow DOE rules to take the 4th grade test. like they have their own admission procedure. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:59 PM Flag
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See below. They administer the CTP. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:00 PM Flag
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Hunter is not in the ranking because it does not belong to DOE. Same thing for Hunter high school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:55 PM Flag
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I think Hunter HS is also not in the ranking because they don't take the Regents, like all other NY state public HS. They take some Regents - 2 science ones, I think - but not all the other ones. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:57 PM Flag
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Hunter High kids only take Regents for Science and Foreign Languate. The school uses these tests in lieu of a final exam (easier) but not for use to get Regents diploma or rankings. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 06:29 AM Flag
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Which makes sense. I think Latin doesn't do a Regents exam - only French and Spanish. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 09:17 AM Flag
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Hunter kids take the CTPs, like the private school kids. And the results are only known to the school and each child. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:56 PM Flag
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so this ranking is only for public school from DOE. No hunter, no private school [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:57 PM Flag
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Yes. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:58 PM Flag
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that's right - otherwise hunter would be #1 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:03 PM Flag
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I think so. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 06:34 AM Flag
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All NYS public schools - suburbs, Albany, Buffalo, everywhere. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 06:29 AM Flag
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yes. everywhere in the New york state. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 06:40 AM Flag
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ps6? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:03 PM Flag
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did not find it within ranking 150. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 06:41 AM Flag
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here is the ranking for schools only in Manhattan:No1.: Anderson No2: LL No3: NEST No 10: ps 116 No 14:PS 166 No 15: PS 158 No 18: PS 6 No 26: PS 9 No 35: PS 11 No 38: 187 Hudson Cliffs School [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 06:42 AM Flag
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looks like PS 9 is even not as good as ps 116. 116 is also the mix of G&T and ged. so it is easy to compare. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 06:44 AM Flag
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But gen ed population is very diff rom 116. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 10:10 AM Flag
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NP: are you saying these are the only Manhattan schools that were on the list? No PS 41, 3 or 234? TIA. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 07:13 AM Flag
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PS 41:No 8 ps3: No 27 ps 234:NO13 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 07:17 AM Flag
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Do you see PS 321 in Brooklyn on there anywhere? TIA [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 08:36 AM Flag
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op: sorry. as I said, I only saved the ranking to 150. did not say ps 321. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 03:42 PM Flag
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Where did you find this info? How much did you pay? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 08:48 AM Flag
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It's online, NYS deparment of education posts all the info, though this year's test results are not published yet. Of course OP is making ridiculous comparisons since there is no other place besides Manhattan where schools get to pick 'gifted' kids in elementary grades so you are totally comparing apples to oranges. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 10:37 AM Flag
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A) OP only mentions Manhattan schools anyway; and B) Does that point out then that if you have a very gifted dc, you would be better off in Manhattan/NYC where there are gifted programs in elementary school? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 10:57 AM Flag
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remember, this ranking is based on 4th grade test. not Kindergarten or 1st grade [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 03:44 PM Flag
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op: it is not me who make the comparison. it is the DOE which released all the reports. I just want to give you some idea. If you do not care, you do not have to care. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 03:46 PM Flag
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Is this ranking based on raw scores, or % of 1,2,3 and 4? Also bear in mind that some schools have special needs kids that may bring the score down. Scores aren't everything. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 01:30 PM Flag
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op: I did not say scores are everything. I do not think special need kids score are included in this ranking. remember, LL has special needs, but it is still ranking No 9 in the whole new york state. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 03:41 PM Flag
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Do you have a ranking for PS 290? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 03:44 PM Flag
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in the ranking of New york state, it is not before 150. but only for manhanttan school, it ranks 19. just after ps 6. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 03:50 PM Flag
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Thank you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 03:51 PM Flag
[ - ] I'm beginning to think it's a good idea to give all 97%+ equal footing as a group, and then the 90%-96% in the other group. Really, there can't be that much difference that 1 test for 1 hour can detect. All this fine calibration is causing so much ugliness. 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 06.20.08, 08:36 PM Flag
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have to say I am glad that they at least got rid of the onsites. stops all these posts about truly divergent thinkers who could only be discerned by an onsite. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:38 PM Flag
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ITA. But I also wish they'd set up another K-12 citywide. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:41 PM Flag
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Yes, at least one in Bklyn and Queens each. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:46 PM Flag
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Agreed! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 09:05 AM Flag
[ - ] Anyone turn down anderson? how big do you think the classes will be when all is said and done? 14 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 06.20.08, 08:36 PM Flag
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We turned it down. I think the class size will be fine. It won't surprise me if the DOE reverses its stance on wait lists if the numbers seem a little too low. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:44 PM Flag
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where are you going? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 08:45 PM Flag
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Private. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:10 PM Flag
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np: why did you apply if you didn't want the spot? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:18 PM Flag
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Just to p*ss you off, of course. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:20 PM Flag
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actually dc will be going to anderson. just interesting to apply at such a late date if you did not want it. what is a couple of weeks in the scheme of the year in terms of needing more time to decide. I don't get it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:27 PM Flag
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You make a lot of assumptions. Clearly you don't get it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:32 PM Flag
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nnp - I think the question is just - why did you go through with the G&T process if you had a private school acceptance in hand? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:34 PM Flag
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nnnp-who cares? maybe or was interested in public, wanted to see where dcwould end up. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:35 PM Flag
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nnp - Right and that's OR's prerogative. (Remember Bobby Brown when he was cute & could sing?) But the question was asked because it *does* take away someone's seat at Anderson if the DOE sticks with its No-Waitlist policy. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:41 PM Flag
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It doesn't take away anything. The DOE overaccepted. Some people have to give up their spots or the incoming K class will be over-enrolled. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:47 PM Flag
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it does not take away anyone's seat. quit your bitching (and get a clue). not op btw [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 09:48 PM Flag
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It does take away seats and I'll bet they probably have less than 50 kids going now. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 06:24 AM Flag
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incoming anderson parent. all the better for our kids! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.21.08, 09:18 AM Flag
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