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Thank you so much for being a valued member of the UrbanBaby community. We wanted to inform you that we are shutting down the site on July 6th. We are grateful for your participation and support that has helped make UrbanBaby such an important resource to parents for many years.

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[ - ] Why do married women turn into judgmental bitches? The women on UB are downright cruel. 10 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:51 PM Flag
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it's you. (assuming you are 3year affair with a married man). you need to reread the posts b/c you're getting some good advice. let it be an eye opener for you and go speak to a professional. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:54 PM Flag
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NO! I just read it think you are a cruel bitch. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:55 PM Flag
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i think the posters are being straight talking and honest. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:58 PM Flag
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I think they cross the line into cruelty. Probably because they resent their own empty miserable lives. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:59 PM Flag
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i've been seeing a lot of posters like that op. they are so convinced there's nothing wrong with them that they start jumping on everyone who criticizes them. maybe just take a minute to htink if there's some truth in what people are saying. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 10:02 PM Flag
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Clueless and truly no compassion. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 10:03 PM Flag
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your responses to the people who actually took the time to consider your situation and give feedback were downright nasty and abusive. No one called you "ugly" but you hurled that insult at one poster and repeatedly called people names and used foul language. I sense that it is pointless to try to hold up the mirror to you as you seem to be a very troubled person indeed. Go haunt another bulletin board. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 10:05 PM Flag
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No I'd rather rub your face in your self-righteousness. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 10:07 PM Flag
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oooh i'm scared. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 10:11 PM Flag
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lol [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 10:14 PM Flag
[ - ] So, I am getting married in August. We invited friends with guests only if they knew no one else OR if they are in a serious relationsip (over a year or living together). Our Wedding is very expensive and we have a large group of friends who all know each other, so we thought that it would be okay to invite those who are not in serious relationships to come alone. We invited one friend and wrote "and guest" on his invite because he has been dating the same girl for 2 years (although we have never met her). NOW, he writes to us and tells us that he broke up with THAT girl but has a new one (like a month), that he doesnt get to see so much because she lives in another city so can he please bring HER to the wedding?!! What would you do?!!!!!!!! Let him bring her or not? 34 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:45 PM Flag
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let him bring her if he wants to. you can't rescind the invitation. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:47 PM Flag
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But the invitation was NOT for this new girl. There are other guys in that group who were not invited with a guest... now we worry that they will all start calling to bring a random guest [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:48 PM Flag
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or that they will feel slighted that they could not bring someone and this guy could. I think he put us in a bad position. I would NEVER ask someone who invited me to their Wedding for something like this. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:49 PM Flag
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Jeez, dont be a cheap bastard. If you cant afford such a lavish wedding dont try to have one and then be stingy to your friends. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:49 PM Flag
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General Topics 06.01.08, 09:50 PM Flag
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Its not really about the ONE guest or the cost of the one guest. Its about the idea that now others will start to ask to bring randoms. I dont think its being cheap - the wedding is very expensive and I dont feel that I need to pay for their random dates. I dont think that is being cheap. If it were the other way around, I dont think these guys would have invited my fiancee with a guest [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:52 PM Flag
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Just curious, how old are you and soon-to-be-DH? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:53 PM Flag
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just say no. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:56 PM Flag
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really? Is that what you would do? IF so, why? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:59 PM Flag
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if they had the nerve to call me, sure i would. i'd explain that you had intended it for a specific girlfriend and you didn't realize they broke up. you don't know if he's bringing someone else or not. (or you can say that you'll leave it as it stands b/c you already sent it). you don't have to say yes jsut b/c they ask. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 10:04 PM Flag
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They live in a different city and I never met her. This is my fiancees friend not mine, and he did not think to get her name to put on the guest list [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:55 PM Flag
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The truth is, even if we put her name on it, and he broke up with her, he would still consider it a plus one and ask to bring the new chick [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:57 PM Flag
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I dont think that good friends would ask something like this [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:53 PM Flag
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just tell them that you are at your maximum number of guests. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:51 PM Flag
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i don't think other people will randomly bring a guest b/c they were not invited to bring a guest. you might be able to call up and say "i thought you were dating so-and-so really seriously so i meant the invitation to be for her. but you are welcome to bring someone else if you'd like". but i think that would be very not classy of you. if you didn't address it to her specifically, you just need to let it drop. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:51 PM Flag
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ditto. WTF is "and guest"??? It was NOT specifically for this particular person, it said "and GUEST". I mean, what are you calling people's fiancees? Plus One? Go back to your trailer park . [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.02.08, 05:39 AM Flag
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oh dear god you are rude! I can't believe anyone is showing up to your wedding at all. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.02.08, 05:35 AM Flag
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I would say ok. You had already allocated 2 spots for him so why does it matter that it's now this girl and not the other. Also I would just let is slide not worth it to quibble over stuff like this. btdt, and it's not worth it in hindsight. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:49 PM Flag
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But what about the other guys... what if they start calling to bring guests too? And I think they might [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:50 PM Flag
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These are my fiancees frat brothers from college and they are selfish frat boys. I feel like he cares more about seeing the girl than our Wedding [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:50 PM Flag
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why do you care what a selfish frat boy thinks? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:52 PM Flag
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He probably does. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:53 PM Flag
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why the capital W on wedding. Bridezilla [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.02.08, 04:54 AM Flag
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Here's a news flash: NO ONE is coming to your wedding because they care about you more than themselves. Except maybe your mum. Get over yourself [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.02.08, 05:44 AM Flag
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you can explain simply. but rest assured, if they are rude enough to call, you don't have to feel bad about turning them down [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:52 PM Flag
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Finally. Someone who understands the feeling. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:54 PM Flag
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np: what do you mean rude enough to call? If I got an invite for myself "plus guest" I would not even feel the need to call, I would just come and feel free to bring a guest, just as my invitation said!! he went extra to make sure she is ok with his particular guest, what is rude about that?? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 10:27 PM Flag
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no, she's afraid her fiance's other friends will call and say "he got an invitation that said 'with guest', i want to bring a guest too". [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 10:32 PM Flag
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Youve btdt - did you have drama surrounding your wedding too? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:58 PM Flag
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How many are on your guest list? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:50 PM Flag
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It is not really about the actual numbers of guests - its about letting him bring a random and not the others [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:56 PM Flag
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Let him bring, of course. You wrote "and guest". After two years you might have attempted to find out her name. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 10:32 PM Flag
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As a wedding designer who ends up as planner and shrink for many brides, my advice is just to let it go and move on. the day is about the enjoyment and if you get caught up in what's "right" or not, you will regret it. you did say "guest" and didn't specify who that guest would be... just smile graciously and let it go... [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.02.08, 05:44 AM Flag
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i would agree with you if you didn't write "and guest" on his invite. you SHOULD have put her name on the invite. at my wedding, we only invited people with their serious girlfriends/boyfriends. however, you didnt bother to put her name on the invite so you are stuck with a random "and guest". you'll have to get over it. i guess ou can say "we'd rather not have a random person at our wedding who we don't know, but do what you want to do." [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.02.08, 05:45 AM Flag
[ - ] What are some perks of the burbs? Anyone prefer them? 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:38 PM Flag
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We moved from Manhattan to NJ two years ago. Don't regret it at all...lived in Manhattan for 10 years. Don't miss living there at all. (DH and I both grew up in suburbs, though, so we knew we wanted to get out here eventually). We could afford much more space (house and yard) out here than we could in the city. School is simpler and cheaper. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:52 PM Flag
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i refuse to answer that. every time i've answered a question like that i get people arguing with me "i have that in the city" or "i have ti better in the city". [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 10:08 PM Flag
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It's a love hate relationship. I love some things about the burbs, I miss the city terribly still. Nothing's perfect, but I feel like this is the best for ds...for now. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 10:23 PM Flag
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we are weighing on this question too. 2 br apartment is going to be small soon when 2 kids grow up. But the also thinking of the commute, it will take away our time with the kids too and the convenience. Hard decision. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 10:27 PM Flag
[ - ] Don't it obnoxious when people refer to themselves as intellectuals? 9 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:29 PM Flag
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No. Why would it be obnoxious? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:34 PM Flag
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Who told them they were intellectual? What level of education makes you an intellectual? I've known some moronic educated people. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:36 PM Flag
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i'm the poster who referred to herself as an intellectual. secretly, of course, i am not. i like to zone out, watch tv, have bad taste (: [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:42 PM Flag
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^^^ oops, sorry. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:42 PM Flag
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^^^jesus. i keep hitting return accidentally. i am paid to be an intellectual. it is my job. i am an academic. i ALSO hate people who call themselves intellectuals, but i guess others would call me that, so i call myself that. to be more accurate, i consider myself a critical thinker, an analyzer, a doubter, and all kinds of people - in a class classes, professions, cultures - do that too and they are also intellectuals even if they are bus drivers, accountants, sahms, etc. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:44 PM Flag
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good for you! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:47 PM Flag
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lol [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:43 PM Flag
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I don't think so, I refer myself as intellectual. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 10:10 PM Flag
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Why? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 10:15 PM Flag
[ - ] I am wondering if whats harder to get back in the workforce if one quits or get laid off? I want take a break and wonder whether to just quit or wait for a layoff package? 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:26 PM Flag
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if I were you I would wair for the pasckage. But how do you know you are going to be laidoff? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 10:16 PM Flag
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wait for the layoff. lot's of people are getting laid off now for all kinds of reasons that have little or nothing to do with individual performance. if you quit, well, then you're a quitter. unless you have a compelling reason for quitting. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 10:20 PM Flag
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i think it's harder if you quit. so many layoffs now that there's nothing shameful in it. plus, if you can get a sevarance package, what's the downside? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 10:21 PM Flag
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can always ask for a package. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.02.08, 12:46 AM Flag
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Ask to be laid off if there is a move of layoffs in your company. You need to be very deft about it, but you can make it clear that you'd be fine with it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.02.08, 01:57 AM Flag
[ - ] Toward the end of pregnancy around 8th month or so, I always start feeling a sort of raw achy feeling in my crotch. What is this called? 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More ]
Expecting 06.01.08, 09:20 PM Flag
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Ucchh - I know what you're talking about, but no one I know ever warned me about this. Raw, achy, ITCHY - super-hormonal. Under my arms, too. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:24 PM Flag
[ - ] looking for a gyno - i live on park between 24 & 25 and i would love to find someone close if possible, preferably female 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
Newborn 06.01.08, 09:15 PM Flag
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Would you consider a midwife? I've been going to Barbara Sellars at CBS Midwifery for years. She is truly the best. And CNMs can do everything a gyn does, including write prescriptions. The office is on 5th Avenue at 18th Street. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:19 PM Flag
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not pregnant - need a gyno, just moved to the city [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:36 PM Flag
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midwives do gyn care too, np [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.02.08, 05:04 AM Flag
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I love Kurt Christopher and Shauna Hedley. They are just north of you - right near Grand Central. They are young, smart, funny and give great pre-, during and post-natal care. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.02.08, 05:38 AM Flag
[ - ] i'm so terribly sad. did you know that there's something called grief nesting? my apt hasn't been this clean and organized in about three years. 11 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:09 PM Flag
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what happened? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:11 PM Flag
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General Topics 06.01.08, 09:16 PM Flag
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It could be hormonal. Have you talked to your doc about this? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:20 PM Flag
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that's interesting. i did wonder if i was ovulating already but i didn't connect my mood to that. that's a really good point. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:22 PM Flag
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np: after a miscarriage, you have huge hormonl shift & often a grieving process [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:25 PM Flag
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op: i was totally taken aback by how much grieving i did. i never knew it would've been such a big deal. but i thought i was doing better and now i'm so down. i keep singing the rainbow connection ("...who said that every wish would be heard and answered...") and i'm just so terribly sad. i'll get teary eyed right in the middle of a conversation. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:29 PM Flag
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sounds like you are have hormonal issue, you can also have a form of depression similar to PPD. I would talk to your OB/gyn [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:31 PM Flag
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thanks. now that you have me thinking about it, i'm realizing i might have a serious problem. not sure what i'll do about it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:34 PM Flag
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what are you sad about? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:12 PM Flag
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I didn't know it had a name. But I do it [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:28 PM Flag
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i got up at 4 in the morning the morning after my miscarriage and cleaned my kitchen. after that, i did some reading and i found that term. today i did more cleaning than i've done in a long time. went through closets, sorted clothing, cleaned the kitchen. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:33 PM Flag
[ - ] very worried about being laid off that I can't sleep. we would be in a real financial bind. anyone else feeling this way and how to get through this? 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
Toddler 06.01.08, 09:06 PM Flag
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start planning. a plan of action might make you feel more secure. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:11 PM Flag
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If it makes you feel better I'm always financially stressed. there is never enough! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:12 PM Flag
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I worry about it happening with DH at times and it is frightening. I suppose best strategy is to save for a rainy day [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:14 PM Flag
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Yes, me. DH and I both laid off within a few weeks of each other and out of work for a few months. DH finally found a new job - way better than the last one. So we're doing alright now but I keep having panic attacks he'll be let go again. To top it off I'm pregnant and don't think anyone would hire me on a bet at this point. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:15 PM Flag
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thanks for the replies. I am going to try to just take it day by day. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:23 PM Flag
[ - ] just testing this new website. its been a while since I logged onto UB. how does everyone like this website? 8 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
Toddler 06.01.08, 09:03 PM Flag
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there are a lot judgmental b***hs. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:05 PM Flag
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It's really slow, and I don't know if people can figure it out. It really doesn't seem all that difficult to me, but I must be in the minority. Meanwhile, a copycat site is siphoning off a lot of the people who are left, but I don't think that will last forever. Eventually it will probably pick up here, and for me, it's good that it is slow now because there are lots of things I can be doing with my time instead. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:13 PM Flag
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whats the copy cat site? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 10:14 PM Flag
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General Topics 06.01.08, 11:15 PM Flag
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General Topics 06.01.08, 09:47 PM Flag
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I'm here for the first time in ages tonight. It's been months. So far I hate the new site. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 10:24 PM Flag
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General Topics 06.01.08, 11:15 PM Flag
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I like and use both for different reasons. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 11:25 PM Flag
[ - ] MISERABLE - pls help: 3mo db (ebf) seems to have a food allergy/sensitivity (mucous in diapers, a tiny bit of blood a couple of times, "straining", gas, etc). I cut dairy, soy, red meat, citrus, tomatoes, nuts, eggs, wheat out of my diet & it didn't help. Been on total elimination diet for 3 days and it might have helped a bit - but nothing drastic. DH and pediatrician were both formula fed and keep saying "nothing's wrong with formula." We have an appt with a ped GI doc & I'm terrified they're going to out my db on nasty hypoallergenic formula. I read a bottle of that stuff - it's got like 100 ingredients and none of them are FOOD. Any ideas where to turn? tia 20 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 08:46 PM Flag
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You need to know that what db is eating now is not working. Formula may indeed be best for him [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 08:48 PM Flag
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If someone can PROVE to me that my breastmilk is actually what the problem is - then, I'd consider it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 08:50 PM Flag
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I think the only way to do that is to try formula to see if the issues are resolved. Unless you eliminate the bm how will you know? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 08:53 PM Flag
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That still wont be a definitive answer. I had been told db had "breastmilk janudice" when he was a few weeks old. We supplemented with formula and he got better. Went back to bm, he got worse. Sounds like it was the bm, yes? It wasn't. It was because he was getting MORE when he was being supplemented. I just knew something wasn [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 08:58 PM Flag
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oops.. anyway: [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 08:58 PM Flag
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Oh, I see. Can't hit return. Sorry. So: I decided to try pumping and making sure he got the exact same amount of bm that he was getting of formula. And lo and behold - he got even better than he had on the formula. Things are not as black and white as they seem with babies. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 08:59 PM Flag
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so for a time db was doing well on bm? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 08:59 PM Flag
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Yup. He was doing great until a few weeks ago. He is incidentally really happy, cries very very little and has consistently gained weight really well. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:01 PM Flag
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no one can prove that... and you are SO right to be skeptical. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:03 PM Flag
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ty. I just know in my heart of hearts that my milk has to be what my db needs. (That whole "breastmilk janudice" experience really proved it to me.) Besides - how can a can of powdered, factory produced, genetically engineered CHEMICALS be better for the child who came from my body than food made by that very same body?? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:07 PM Flag
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couple of thoughts...find some moms who have btdt. i think you have to cut out foods for a long time before you'd see a result in your db if your db is allergic. (i think i was told two weeks). second, there's really nothing wrong with formula. especially since your db is 3mo. think of it this way: bf'ing is best. but if something makes it not the best, then it's not the best anymore. take it one day at a time and don't put too much emphasis on any one issue. (and i'd recommend that as a general parenting rule, not just about this. don't let one issue become the gold standard in a way that badly affects other areas). good luck. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 08:51 PM Flag
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ty. good advice, I know. I just feel so strongly about the bfing in my gut. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:02 PM Flag
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don't lose sight of what makes sense. presumably, you want to bf b/c it's best for your baby. but if it's not best, be flexible to adjust. my baby was in the nicu when born and needed special formula. all the side things of nursing (the intimacy, the special connection, etc) happened with bottle feeding anyway. so just focus on the actual issue here. good luck. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:06 PM Flag
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ty.. the bonding stuff is important to me, but it's really secondary. I really feel like bf is better for my db - and I only want what's best for him. If someone can really prove to me that formula is better for him - then I'll totally give it to him. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:10 PM Flag
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speak to people who know. moms who have btdt. an allergist. the pediatric GI. get facts. again, i don't think three days is enough to show a difference if it's a real allergy. you might see switching to formula has an immediate improvement. it might not be an issue at all. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:14 PM Flag
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1. contact a lc and la leche league. 2. only 3 days of elimination diet? may not be enought time. GL [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:01 PM Flag
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ty. Do you know of someone doing well with elimination diet? How long did it take to show result? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:04 PM Flag
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I think that the most common allergy is milk protein, which my db had and I had to stop eating dairy myself while I was breastfeeding. Also, poster above is right that it can take a while (even weeks) before db's intestines are totally fine. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:04 PM Flag
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wow. you are really screwed up in the head. Formula is a fine nutritional source for babies. We have been feeding it to millions of dbs who are healthy dc and adults. If your dc is not doing well on your bm, you need to move on and get over yourself! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.02.08, 04:23 AM Flag
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I feel fine about regular formula that's made with milk. The other ones I think are really sketchy--especially the Isomil, or whatever that one made with corn starch is. I agree with OP, even though I only bf-ed for 5 months and have no issues with formula. -np [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.02.08, 07:09 AM Flag
[ - ] I have just broke up w/ a married man after 3 years (He lied about his marriage.) Prior to this I had finally escaped a physically abusive husband. UB is the only thing that takes my mind off my troubles. 35 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 08:46 PM Flag
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try therapy. why are you attracting one schmuck after another? find a nice guy [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 08:49 PM Flag
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They both seemed very nice in the beginning. I'll never trust again. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 08:51 PM Flag
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when you say "you'll never trust again," you're actually setting up a dynamic where you've now scared yourself that you'll be alone forever which makes you more likely to panic and run into the arms of the next numbskull who offers to pay for dinner. Why not tell yourself, "I'll trust again when I'm ready" and take some of the drama out of the equation. Then try really being very very good to yourself for a while. Treat yourself with love and respect and you are more likely to find someone who loves and respects you and, if not, at least you didn't spend all of your time moaning, "never again, never again." [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:10 PM Flag
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NP: you are good. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:15 PM Flag
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it's the insight of a reformed drama queen. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:19 PM Flag
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lol [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:21 PM Flag
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I'm not desperate for anyone to pay for my dinner or any thing else at this point. I'm just completely disgusted not afraid to be alone forever. It's just sad that people can be so cruel if you let them. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:19 PM Flag
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exactly -- "if you let them." Why do you let them? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:22 PM Flag
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probably because I'm pretty honest and upfront and have assumed that others are to. I'm much more suspicious than I used to be. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:24 PM Flag
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Does not make sense. You let them be cruel to you because you are honest and direct? Try again. You let them be cruel to you because . . . [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:30 PM Flag
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Are you really that dense? Have you never been lied to? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:32 PM Flag
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np: i'm not saying this to be mean. but your track record sounds really spotty. it sounds like there's something wrong with your expectations or your relationships. you can't keep blaming it on bad luck. and why would you want to if you have the ability to fix it? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 10:01 PM Flag
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you didn't figure out he was married for 3 yrs? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 08:54 PM Flag
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Yes! but not before I had already invested my emotions and was repeatedly lied to. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 08:55 PM Flag
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and yet you stayed [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 08:56 PM Flag
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if you are feeling holier than thou move along. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 08:57 PM Flag
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not at all, just think you need to rethink your own actions rather than blaming it all on those men [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:01 PM Flag
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this is a site that is supporitive to women. move along and make sure you know where your own husband or partner is. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:03 PM Flag
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Please tell me you're joking! What do you consider being "supportive to women" - enabling their stupid, conscious, self destructive choices and then stroking their clueless little heads when the shit inevitably hits the fan?? Get a life! Get some self esteem!! The common denominator in your equation is YOU, not the general evils of men. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:20 PM Flag
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You must be man or a very ugly unlovable women. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:25 PM Flag
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Great logic there. only men or ugly, yucky ladies hold themselves in high enough regard to be in healthy, happy relationships. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:29 PM Flag
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Let's face it your fear of being cheated on is causing you to be so smug. Go find your husband and blow him [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:31 PM Flag
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Happily, he's right here. And he's great. I have no need to be smug - I'm honest with myself and have some self esteem. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:35 PM Flag
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I'm sure you're alone w. your vibrator. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:37 PM Flag
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This is also a site with a lot of married women on it who aren't necessarily supportive of women who sleep with married men -- for 3 years no less! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:25 PM Flag
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another brute [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:26 PM Flag
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This OP is a major idiot. And a self- righteous one at that. Let her drown in her little self-sabotage game. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:32 PM Flag
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You are the self-righteous bitch. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:33 PM Flag
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Enjoy your misery, honey. I hope it keeps you warm tonight. xo [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:37 PM Flag
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ITA. buh-bye now. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:34 PM Flag
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Uh huh [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:35 PM Flag
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how does UB take your mind off your troubles? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:06 PM Flag
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I can converse anonymously and not think about my situation. Except, of course, when I bring it up. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:09 PM Flag
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i think the poster above has a really good point. you had a 3 year relationship with someone that at some point you knew was built on lies. and then you start thinking "poor me". that's really not healthy. i do think you need to speak to a good therapist. b/c you'll end up having a lot of trouble with this. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:39 PM Flag
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Thank you sister. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 06.01.08, 09:40 PM Flag
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