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[ - ] How much 3BR apt. rent in your area? We currently pay $8000 in Tribeca but thnking to move because we will be sending DC to private(and DC#2 will be K in few years). DC will be commuting anyway so any location will be considered. Also do you like where you live? 36 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 06.30.08, 06:18 AM Flag
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3kish, Harlem (Sugar Hill) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:23 AM Flag
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What street is it? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:31 AM Flag
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I own, but that is about what people pay in rent. Sugar Hill is in the 140s it is part of Hamilton Heights. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:33 AM Flag
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Which school does your DC go? Zoned school any good? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 08:42 AM Flag
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Mine goes to private, but many people send dc to Hamilton Heights School. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 05:31 PM Flag
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$3600 on Roosevelt Island [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:38 AM Flag
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oh, and we love it here [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:38 AM Flag
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Ditto - We pay $3500 for a 3 BR and LOVE it. Great place to raise kids, but forget about the local school - most travel to Manhattan. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 09:19 AM Flag
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np: shhh! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 09:44 AM Flag
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the local is not great but acceptable. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 09:49 AM Flag
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Acceptable for K-1 maybe. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 10:17 AM Flag
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I would avoid the middle school. The elementary school is good enough as long as you supplement at home. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 10:18 AM Flag
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Really? I've heard not so good things about the elementary. Too bad because the building is amazing. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 10:26 AM Flag
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I cannot even fathom spending $8K in rent. That seems insane. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:39 AM Flag
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OP: Actually, we own. Morgage for $55oo and $2500 for maint. We are thinking about both possiblities for rent and buy. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:50 AM Flag
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I think it's $10K for a doorman/new/bldg with a pool but there must be some for $6K or so? I live on the Upper East Side in the 90s, but have lived in Soho, West Village, near Columbia and on the UWS. I like downtown for restaurants but with kids do like the Carnegie Hill part of the UES - near the park, west of Lex. Its very quiet and it's nice to have the park and the 92nd Street Y, museums, etc. right here. I find the eastern side of the UES kind of ehh and not cheaper than where I live anyway. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:52 AM Flag
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Flatiron/Chelsea and 2-3 BR lofts are renting for $11-12K in our building (no doorman). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 07:15 AM Flag
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holy crap [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 07:46 AM Flag
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2100 SF though, pretty great space. We pay about $6500 a month for our mortgage/common charges, though, but bought in 2002. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 07:49 AM Flag
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I just bought a 1400 sq ft, 2 bd, 2 bath on Garth Rd in Eastchester, for $350K and I just love it. We moved from midtown manhattan there and its better that i imagined. Schools are highly rated, door to door school bus service and after school program. Playground, little league field and basket ball courts right across the street. 10 min walk to train - 27 min ride to Grand Central. 10 min walk to village of Scarsdale with a grocery store, great shopping, very quaint. I should have done this years ago. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 07:40 AM Flag
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garth rd is great. wanted to rent there, but it didn't work out. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 07:52 AM Flag
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also, i intend to turn my dining room into a 3rd bdrm since the living room is very large and can make a dining area. garth road is the best alternative to manhattan that i've found and I looked for a long time [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 08:31 AM Flag
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?? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 07:41 AM Flag
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We spend $7300 for a classic six - 3 bedrooms, LR, DR, kitchen and 2 baths for a place in Carnegie Hill - UES. part time door man, two blocks from the park, in 90s. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 07:55 AM Flag
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Nashville, TN. 1500 a month gets you a 3500 sq ft house in the best nabes in town. Nice intelligent people, thriving arts scene, lots of money, low unemployment huge university community [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 08:44 AM Flag
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I'D NEVER GO THER [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 09:39 AM Flag
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your loss [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 09:49 AM Flag
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Come on over to Brooklyn. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 08:50 AM Flag
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$5000, 2 bed UWS 1300 Sf [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 09:09 AM Flag
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OP: Actually, Brooklyn is our option, too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 09:19 AM Flag
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I believe you can get a 3BR in Forest Hills in the $3K range. 20 mins on the subway gets you to midtown. Forest Park, tons of playgrounds, kids' leagues, activities etc. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 09:35 AM Flag
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hijack-those of you who pay $4K or more, what is your HHI? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 09:51 AM Flag
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zzzzzzz.... at least something around 40 times the rent, no? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 09:53 AM Flag
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OP: We need over 1800 sq. feet.3BR. This is the size we live in right now. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 12:22 PM Flag
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You can probably rent 2 floors in a brownstone in a nice Brooklyn neighborhood for less than $5,000 (sometimes much less). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 04:44 PM Flag
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LES co-op village 3brs around 3500, I think [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 05:30 PM Flag
[ - ] i chose msc over a good district g&t. i am questioning my decision now. i am worried that the school will change with the new lottery system. can anyone give any insight? 6 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 06.30.08, 06:13 AM Flag
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you must not care very much about academic performance. what are you worried will change? it will become less touchy-feely? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:15 AM Flag
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i don't really care about academic performance of the school. he is smart, and will do well anywhere. i want him to get a well rounded education and really didn't want him in a segregated learning environment. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:16 AM Flag
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i don't see that changing at MSC [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:17 AM Flag
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MSC is a wonderful school. New lottery system has been in place for at least a year now and K students seem as lovely and diverse and adorable as ever. The tone of the school is set by the principal and she is in it for the long haul. We chose MSC over G&T years ago and would do it again in a nanosecond. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 07:31 AM Flag
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PS 166? I have a friend who chose her zoned school over 166 also. The segregation was a big issue. Also, 166 seems very anti-G&T. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:26 AM Flag
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yes, 166. what do you mean, anti g&t. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 07:14 AM Flag
[ - ] my 5 yo hates going to camp, complaining that it is boring and babyish. Problem is, my 3.5 yo is there too. If I pull the 5 yo out, my younger will not want to stay. I'm a SAHM with a baby at home. Camp is until 2. WWYD? The camp admin, btw, has been totally unresponsive. 14 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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New York City 06.30.08, 06:11 AM Flag
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is the older one the kind of kid who would want to go to "take care of" the younger one? My mom used to pull that on me all the time! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:19 AM Flag
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older does look out for younger, but it is not enough to keep her engaged there, I gather, since she has been complaining. I feel bad for younger but I don't want older to be bored. She might have more fun just tagging along with me. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:28 AM Flag
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i'm having a similar problem with my 4 yo and camp this year. He is in hysterics every time I take him and I also have a new baby at home. He wants to be with me during the day; I had thought having a routine would be better for him, but think I was wrong. Figured out if I pull him now, I'll lose about 2K, since camp will not even consider a refund. We're both miserable! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:46 AM Flag
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op: i think i'll do it. my inlaws are coming and dcs can hang out with them. Screw this stupid camp. Morningside Montessori, by the way. Their attitude has been "so what." Just appalling. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 10:33 AM Flag
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General Topics 06.30.08, 10:34 AM Flag
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You cannot handle two children at home? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.17.08, 08:00 AM Flag
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probably thinks it is babyish because your younger dc is there [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.17.08, 08:01 AM Flag
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Those camps attached to schools are often crappy and overpriced the teachers need the money so they work but aren't much fun. I think the ones staffed with high school and college kids are more fun and worth the $. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.17.08, 08:12 AM Flag
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ITA. My ds is bored in camp too. Next year I am sending him to a real summer camp. Spending $1800 to hear nothing but complaints every morning is no fun. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.17.08, 08:43 AM Flag
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np: same experience here, did not want to do a special summer camp for dc (4) but the camp at this preschool is seriously boring. She is ready for real camp. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.17.08, 09:00 AM Flag
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camp is fun ecspecially when the counselors are young and engaged with the children! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.17.08, 09:01 AM Flag
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what does "real camp" mean? sorry to be clueless [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.17.08, 09:56 AM Flag
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Lots of sports, swimming, playing games outside. NOT being in the classroom. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.17.08, 10:21 AM Flag
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Even the expensive ones. We paid $3k or so to send 3 yo DD to Emanu-El last year and it was very lame. She is at real camp this summer. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.17.08, 09:53 AM Flag
[ - ] lice combing - what am i looking for white dots or brown ones? HELP I AM FREAKING OUT SO BAD 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:11 AM Flag
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don't know but I'll bet Google could find that info for you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:12 AM Flag
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You're looking for eggs--they are white at first and then go brown as they get closer to hatching. They cling really efficiently to the hair. Sometimes the comb doesn't work--you have to strip them off the hair with your fingernails. I feel for you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:14 AM Flag
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I told you before, go to hair fairies. They can get rid of them for you - also you may have it too - good to checked out [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:13 AM Flag
[ - ] My 43 yr old brother just boasted to me that he stole the swimming pool from Target the other day - just walked right out of the store with it. His rationalizations include that no one would help him haul it onto his cart for 15 min he was trying to ask and that stores like that are hurting our economy. We're growing so far apart - this is just an example. Am I being uptight about this - I just find it so sleazy . . . I know at the end of the day he's responsible for his own actions but . . . 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 05:58 AM Flag
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I agree, that's really bad. Why risk getting in trouble for something like that? (I assume he has kids, what a bad example he's setting). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:00 AM Flag
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With his logic, I could rob Harry Winston blind. They are terribly unhelpful in the store and diamonds are very bad for the economies of many countries. Does he had dc? Isn't he worried about teaching them that laws, rules, and ethics are notions to be bent to their own desires? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:02 AM Flag
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he doesn't have kids [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:06 AM Flag
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yikes. That's pretty sad for a 43 yo. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:06 AM Flag
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Theft is theft. How childish for a grown man. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:47 AM Flag
[ - ] ewcm on thur and fri so had sex then. saw more this am. so tired from 18 mo old. ttc - do we need to have sex tonight? 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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Expecting 06.30.08, 05:47 AM Flag
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that'll be really fun, having sex just because you "have to" [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 08:14 AM Flag
[ - ] I am 15 weeks next week and will have a sonogram. Do you think the doctor will be able to tell me the gender of the baby at 15 weeks? 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Expecting 06.30.08, 05:45 AM Flag
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good chance [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:16 AM Flag
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could be if the angle is right [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 08:13 AM Flag
[ - ] shit 6 yr old dd has lice - i did the treatment on saturday nite and shes still itching - i am losing my mind 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 05:44 AM Flag
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The treatment alone does not work (and it is crazily toxic). The only thing to do is comb and comb and comb with the very fine-toothed lice comb. Make sure you have gotten all the eggs out. They look like little swellings along the hair. You have to comb thoroughly for a few days in a row, because the eggs grow and grow before the lice hatch, and you have to make sure you have caught them before they hatch. If they were too small for your comb one day, you'll catch them the next. We all came home from vacation with lice one year. The combing was more or less a full time job for a week. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 05:54 AM Flag
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so if she is still itching i am not out of the woods yet right - or could she just be itchy bec of the bites on her neck and behind her ears [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:04 AM Flag
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I think you probably still have lice, if all you have done is the chemical treatment. If I remember correctly, that only kills the live lice, not the eggs. So once the eggs hatch, you have lice again. I'm sorry. It's a horrible curse. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:13 AM Flag
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Go to hair faries, the chemical washes don't usually work anymore - the lice have developed immunitiy. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:08 AM Flag
[ - ] Any hotel recommendations in Baltimore? 0 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 05:39 AM Flag
[ - ] bottle question- which ones will not leak? just started giving bottles regularly after mostly breastfeeding, and the avent seem to always leak like crazy. 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Newborn 06.30.08, 05:31 AM Flag
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gerber drop ins [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 05:33 AM Flag
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that has a liner ? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 05:36 AM Flag
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yes...they are liners [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 05:41 AM Flag
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Hated Avent for this reason. We ended up using Playtex Vent-Aire. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 05:50 AM Flag
[ - ] please tell me your ferber story. mom of a 5 mo ds who is night waking every 2 hrs or so and not hungry, but can't be soothed by anything but nursing! In his own crib, btw. Need some encouragement! 6 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Newborn 06.30.08, 05:29 AM Flag
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we did CIO at about 4.5 mos, it wasn't nearly as bad as i thought it would be. would have done a ferber-type approach but we had never gotten in habit of going in to just soothe her- if i went in when she woke up she always got milk, so we decided to just go for it at once. we left her when she cried, and after a few nights it completely stopped. (and this was from waking up every 2 hrs or more) a 5mo is certainly old enough to sleep through, so i would do it, good luck!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 05:33 AM Flag
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similar story here. about 4.5 months we just let her cry one night and it lasted abuot 45 minutes and then agian the next few nights and then stopped completely. Just busy yourself doing other things. if you just sit outside her door listening to her cry, you will never be abel to do it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 05:35 AM Flag
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or- also, i realized that the baby wanted to eat because she was used to being fed constantly all night, but that she didn't need to. this was a major realization for me, to understand that the baby would regulate herself during the day, and take in enough milk to last her through the night. i never ever believed this would happen, but then i saw how true it was [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 05:38 AM Flag
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np also time the baby crying. Sometimes it felt like DD cried for an hour but when I looked at the clock, it was only 10 minsutes. Hard to hear but good in the end [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:07 AM Flag
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OP: thank you! I needed to hear all of this. I can't believe how guilty I fee; even though everyone we know who has "good sleepers" had their babies CIO [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 07:05 AM Flag
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We did at 6mos. The Ferber going in at intervals didn't seem to really do much so we went for it at once too. Over the course of a week. Really helped. But then I was a bit concerned b/c during the day she'd start freaking every time I left the room as if I wouldn't come back which she never used to. So I'd really try to go with the chekn gin on intervals. For us though, since we waited until 6mos, the next week she got sick, then she started teething, now we're going on vacation, so everything got thrown out the window. I'd start now, b/c at the 6mo mark so many things start happening that'll interrupt sleep that'll just make it harder. GL (and I agree with other poster to make sure you time it b/c you'll realize it's not nearly as long as it seems) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 07:06 AM Flag
[ - ] Dear West Coast vegan friend: please feed your skinny toddlers some real food. Please. Don't inflict your groundless nutritional `beliefs' on them. Thank you. 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 05:27 AM Flag
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LOL! I love you [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:06 AM Flag
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Not all of us enjoy killing and torturing animals [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:48 AM Flag
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Sure, but there is a difference between vegetarian and vegan, and between an adult's nutritional needs and a child's. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:49 AM Flag
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you can get all the nutrients from cereal, beans, peanut butter. FYI: I let my DCs eat what they like. One loooves meat (and eats it), the other is a vegeterian, but will drink milk [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:50 AM Flag
[ - ] MY MIL keeps promising to visit the kids (she lives in Oakland/Bay Area, we're in NYC) but in two years, she has visited only once. We've visited her once. There are 4 of us and we don't earn the big bucks; she's by herself and works for herself and does much of her work by phone and laptop. DH is heartbroken she won't visit, and her explanation is that she wants to but the logistics sound impossible. (She even asked us how many grandparents we know who lived across the country and visited her grandkids as often as DH "demands," and we said a lot.) We've offered to pay half of her tix and she took it (never mind that we've offered before and she says she doesn't remember this). She's a fascinating, interesting person, generally warm toward the kids, but I'm pissed at this and wonder why she's doing this. We invite her often, but DH things she's just satisfied with us sending emailsw/ pics of kids and calling to update her and that's all she needs, which upsets him a lot.WWYD? 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 05:23 AM Flag
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get a webcam for the kids. for whatever reason, she doesn't love traveling (ot New York). Another idea is to plan a vacation together each year in a neutral place where you can all enjoy each other. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 05:30 AM Flag
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sadly there is nothing you can do. you cannot force a relationship when both parties are not willing. it is totally her loss (and of course your kids, but more hers). my mother passed away 2 years ago and all I can think about is how much she would love to see my kids now - the eldest is reading and interested in everythign and I know my mom would have loved to have seen that. She made all the effort in the world, but her body gave out on her. It is really sad when family does not make an effort. I hope you have other family that have made an effort to see your kids. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 05:31 AM Flag
[ - ] have you ever been socializing with a group and then one day it seems like they just don't give a crap about you? this has happened to dh and me recently and it's just bizarre. i guess we stop hanging out with them. it is a clique i suppose but just weird. 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 05:18 AM Flag
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yes. It is bizarre. It's like all of a sudden the truth of what they think is out there. I thought we were friends, but suddenly we weren't and I don't think I did anything to cause it. Very odd when that happens. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 05:21 AM Flag
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