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[ - ] Just want to say that I am happy that dd is going to a G & T. I have heard that college placement from a top nyc public can be better than HM, Dalton, and all the other top tier privates! 51 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 06.30.08, 03:06 PM Flag
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You're funny :-). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:18 PM Flag
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your G&T goes up to 12th grade? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:19 PM Flag
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NEST+m and Hunter both do. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 04:35 PM Flag
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but only hunter's hs has a strong reputation [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 05:15 PM Flag
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NESTs will pick up as the recent (and current) years' lower school kids move up. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:32 PM Flag
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maybe, maybe not. i kind of doubt it will ever truly compete with the top public hs. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:33 PM Flag
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why? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:36 PM Flag
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You don't know, all it would take would be for the kids already there to be willing to stay instead of jumping ship to Hunter or Stuy. It could happen. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 06:34 AM Flag
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np: that is why I doubt NEST will change too quickly. But that said, (my son is at NEST) I could see the small school keeping some from leaving. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 07:10 AM Flag
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I was just looking at the list of top 100 Gold Medal HS's on the US New and World Report. I didn't see Hunter on there. I saw Stuyvesant (15), Bronx HS of Science (20), Staten Island Tech (22), Brooklyn Tech (39), and NEST (74). Nowhere did I see a mention of Hunter. Why is that so? This list is supposed to comprise the 100 top High Schools in the US. It is pretty amazing that Nest made it considering the school has only been around since 2001. Maybe Hunter elementary school is stronger than the High School. If anyone wants to take a look for themselves, here is the link. http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/high-schools/2007/11/29/gold-medal-schools.html [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 09:13 AM Flag
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hunter was not included because of a loophole. that list has been discussed here before--i'm sure you can search. and i think many agree the list is pretty suspect and the criteria sort of off. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 09:21 AM Flag
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Just like those stupid report cards the DOE gives the schools. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 10:27 AM Flag
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Hunter is not a DOE school. They don't take all the Regents exams that DOE schools do (they take some) and state tests is how the article ranked the schools. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 02:36 PM Flag
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All I can say is NEST has a very, very, very long way to go before it can be even mentioned in the same breath as Stuyvesant, Science and Hunter in terms of college admissions. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 09:21 AM Flag
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That's because their best kids leave for those schools. Same can be said for UL, too. Does not mean much though. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 09:25 AM Flag
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Not to shabby, so it is safe to say that Nest Middle School rocks out in terms of HS placements. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 09:28 AM Flag
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right, but if nest hs were all that, dcs wouldn't be applying out. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 09:33 AM Flag
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Its just smaller and is all that (and maybe a bag of chips). Stuyvesant is a more prestigous school and its so much bigger and therefore can offer more courses. By any chance, are you the famous UB Nest basher? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 09:37 AM Flag
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no, i just happen to have an opinion. i think one day it might be a very good school. it has great potential. that's not the same as being great right now. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 09:38 AM Flag
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Just wondering how someone can have an opinion about a schoo that they have no experience with. Nest and the local school in my neighborhood are the only schools that I have an opinion about. That is because those are the only schools I have experience with. I was just wonderin how people can make such strong statements about things they are not directly involved with. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 08:27 AM Flag
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you don't have to have dcs at nest to know that many apply out for hs. i'm not sure why you are claiming that's a strong statement. it's simply a fact. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 09:09 AM Flag
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This year, half of the middle school students from NEST will be going to Stuyvesant, LaGuardia, Brookyn Tech and Bronx HS of Science. While Nest is a great HS, the others are larger and have more to offer. My DC is at NEST now going into first grade. I wonder what the HS is going to be like by the time he is ready for HS. Anyone know why BARD HS wasn't on the list? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 09:26 AM Flag
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Another NEST parent: I think that many high school kids, by the time they have spent 9 years at the same small school, are going to look forward to a change. My son is also entering 1st Grade at NEST. If he has no desire to change high schools come the time, I will be disappointed. I don't think staying with the same small group of peers for 13 years is healthy. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 09:46 AM Flag
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ittta. and saying, well the dcs were smart when they were tested at age 4, therefore it's the next bronx science makes no sense. a great school has a great admin and great teachers. nest may get there, but it isn't there yet. and the best hs are ones that dcs test into in hs. because that's when it's most accurate. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 09:27 AM Flag
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Well, the DCs in HS at Nest had to test in when they were admitted. The whole not having to test anymore was only implemented last year so it remains to be seen what the effect will be. It also think that everyone should take note that the top schools on this list are Gen Ed schools in other states that don't test kids for admissions. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 09:31 AM Flag
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no, they are elite hs of some sort or another. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 09:35 AM Flag
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Not true. Not all of them. Hidalgo High School is open enrollment. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 09:41 AM Flag
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All the truly gifted or talented pre-schoolars skip K-12 and go straight from pre-school to college. My dd is going straight from pre-school to law school. Yale. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:22 PM Flag
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Who goes to law school anymore? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:23 PM Flag
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She needs to go somewhere before clerking for the a Supreme Court Justice, winning a Nobel Peace Prize, and becoming President of the US and the UN. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:25 PM Flag
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You again, unfunny geek? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:57 PM Flag
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You heard wrong. Way wrong. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:32 PM Flag
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From my experience, the only ones who pump up G&T and constantly compare to private are people who a) could not get into private b) didn't want to fork over the $ for private but have friends and relatives they need to keep up with. Regular public school parents who would never have considered private an option pretty much know G&T is ok but it's not the be all end all. And we're glad your kid didn't get in private because you fund our trips, TAs and specials. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:37 PM Flag
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So little of this post makes sense, and it tries to cover so much ground. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:46 PM Flag
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without generalizing too much -- it's true that private is mostly a financial decision. Most who can go private, do go private. For those who really can't afford it, fa doesn't really cover all the expenses of private (birthdays, etc, etc although there are funds for that). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:50 PM Flag
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read it again s-l-o-w-l-y. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:56 PM Flag
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Just because DD is going to G&T doesn't mean she'll get into a top public high school, but it's true that there's a trend at top colleges with big endowments to recruit more middle and working class students (eg Harvard). College placement at Stuy, Bronx Sci etc are great and likely to get better now that more top students won't feel priced out of expensive colleges. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:57 PM Flag
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Stuy and Bx Sci, have great exmissions, but not as good as tt high schools. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:59 PM Flag
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np--I would guess top-ranked children of immigrants and of non-college educated parents from those schools have the best shot at good colleges. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 04:53 PM Flag
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I haven't looked at the stats, but Stuy and BS are HUGE schools,so you would have to look at percentages, not absolute numbers. And it's probably more meaningful to look at the % of kids who got their first choice; for financial reasons, many public school kids choose good state schools or whichever school offers the most FA. Also, for non-legacy students, the choices they make are different. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 05:34 PM Flag
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Harvard is offering free tuition and boarding for children from families making under 65K (I think this is the number now) and charging 10% of hhi to families making up to 200K (again, this is from memory). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 05:50 PM Flag
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Yep, but you need to get in to be able to take advantage of that. Not so simple:) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 06:32 AM Flag
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I think geographical diversity is as much of an issue as socioeconomic. Students from NYC are relatively less attractive to the East Coast colleges because they are a dime a dozen. This makes placement tough for privates and tough for selective publics. If you care so much about Harvard, move to Boise. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 06:24 AM Flag
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what is considered tt private [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 05:14 PM Flag
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Hunter HS will send 4 kids to Princeton, 4 kids to Yale (out of 8 accepted) and 5 to Harvard (out of 8 accepted). I don't know how many in the senior class this year - it's usually around 180. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 11:30 PM Flag
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No G&T placement will prevent your DD from getting knocked up by her biker boyfriend at 16, dropping out of school, and facing a career of either being a nanny for wenches like yourself, or working at the local Dairy Queen getting hit on by pot-bellied, middle-aged truckers. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 02:40 PM Flag
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NP: Not sure what your issue is. Do you live in NYC at all? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 02:53 PM Flag
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Yes. Do you? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 02:53 PM Flag
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Yes. Dairy Queen? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 03:17 PM Flag
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Yes. What about it? Did you really think that your teenage dropout DD would be able to afford staying in Manhattan? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 03:18 PM Flag
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Thats why I am neutering her when she turns 12. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.08, 08:31 AM Flag
[ - ] Do you think parents know from a very early age that their DC are gay ? 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:00 PM Flag
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yes, as early as 2 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:02 PM Flag
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what did you see or feel that made you feel that way ? And how old is DC now ? Maybe you're not right. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:04 PM Flag
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not my ds but a relative of mine. He is 6 now and I still think so, as does his mother. he's told her that he like boys, among other reasons. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:05 PM Flag
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I am pretty sure my dd is NOT gay - and it has seemed clear since around 18 m/o. So it makes sense to me that, for some dcs, it would be apparent the other way. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:16 PM Flag
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a gay friend of mine says he knew by 5 or 6 that he was different from other boys. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:35 PM Flag
[ - ] All of the colleges know these private NYC schools by name and reputation. It doesn't matter who is the counselor, who may or may not have ties and who has ties and leaves. Trinity will always be Trinity, HM always HM, Collegiate Spence and Brearley always the top schools. That is why admissions will really never change. They have taken large numbers from these schools forever and they will continue to do so, They are a known quantity. 17 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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New York City 06.30.08, 02:59 PM Flag
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Correct, but you had better be one of the very top students from those schools. It's much easier to be a top student at a public school in the midwest, and you don't also have to compete against students who get an unfair advantage because their parents attended the college. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:03 PM Flag
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Ita, having gone to one of those hs that all colleges know. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:07 PM Flag
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That's ridiculous. MANY valedictorians from public schools across the country do not get acceptted to any ivies. While in the tt privates you only have to be in the top 60% of your class to get acceptted at an elite university. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:37 PM Flag
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I totally disagree with this. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:45 PM Flag
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What can you possible disagree with? Read "The price of admissions". I'm not giving my opinion, this is a fact. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:47 PM Flag
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She is correct It was this way with us and dc #1 is 16 and its headed that way. Class above him 60% got top 20 college admission [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:50 PM Flag
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Sorry - I misread. Just saw that OR said "accepted at an elite university". And if you're saying "top 20" . . . I do buy those. The bottom line is that TT privates handpick kids they think can get into those schools. Ifyour dc gets into an "elite university" from one of those schools, they were probably going to get in anyway. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:41 PM Flag
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What?? Your talking out of your ass. Truly. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 07:17 PM Flag
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that's a lie [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 07:19 AM Flag
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ITA... I was in "at the bottom of the top" of my class at one of these schools, and probably was more frustrated by competition within my own class re: college admissions than the process itself. was told I could only apply to 1 top tier Ivy or Stanford, but other people in my class who were truly at the top could apply to as many as possible. Sure I went to a great college, and going to a top tier nyc school helped in the admissions process. I just hope its a bit more fair now within the schools... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 04:25 PM Flag
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totally agree - I went to one of those hs that all people know and we all knew how many students every elite college would take from our class (the college admission officers told us) and we knew we were competing with each other [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 08:41 AM Flag
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Then how come between them they couldn't get one kid into the Air Conditioning and Repair program at Apex Tech? It isn't that hard a program. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:03 PM Flag
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OP: I love you [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:04 PM Flag
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:22 PM Flag
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gag [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:37 PM Flag
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hey, i've used the apex tech air conditioning repair (not "and," btw) line here! you're stealing my material! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 07:13 PM Flag
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many of the students in these schools are legacies too. read dan goldin's book. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 08:22 AM Flag
[ - ] 11 mos. old have a fever of 103.2...do I need to call a docter or do you think it's teething? He is really irritable, low energy, low appetite TIA 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:49 PM Flag
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Definitely not teething. That's too high for that. But not nec to call ped. Give motrin. Monitor for an hour. If the fever doesn't come down, do a lukewarm bath. Call the ped if it doesn't respond still at that point. From 5 - 8 or so is usually when a fever peaks. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:50 PM Flag
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itta - very sane advice [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:51 PM Flag
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gave tylenol and he just crashed at 5:30 so I slipped him into jammies and in his crib...is Motrin better than Tylenol? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:52 PM Flag
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that's not teething -too high. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:51 PM Flag
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that's too high for teething. I would give motrin and call your ped. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:51 PM Flag
[ - ] For those who left a marriage that was unhappy, did you devise a get out plan. was it years in the making? or did you just decide one day to get up and leave? 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:48 PM Flag
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not divorced, but the first thing that I would do is talk to a lawyer so you can make an informed decision, and second talk to a therapist asap, they can be great with walking you through this and really help to process it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:11 PM Flag
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I wouldn't do anything without talking to a therapist, a lawyer, and a financial planner. It's a big decision and making the wrongs moves can really screw you. I have a friend who unknowlingly abandandoned her husband and ended up walking away from the marraige empty handed. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:12 PM Flag
[ - ] Any 40+ women with positive IVF experiences? I'm super bummed today (3 miscarriages, 1 unsuccessful IVF cycle and I'm 6 days post transfer on my 2nd)and need an encouraging story. Gimme something please! 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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TTC 06.30.08, 02:40 PM Flag
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Did you talk to your dr about the miscarriages? I had several mc's before learning that I had high free testosterone and could not support a pregnancy. Unfortunately, I learned this AFTEr two rounds of IVF. A lot of time and money wasted. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:41 PM Flag
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Yes we did thanks. Both my husband and I have gone through extensive testing and all has come up negative. I'm categorized as "unexplained miscarriage". [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:47 PM Flag
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good luck, turning 40 in Sept, rec'd BFP last week, 3rd IVF, 1st successful at 37. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 05:19 PM Flag
[ - ] None of you asked about the college admissions process for any of these private schools while you applied? 99% of you seem only to care about that outcome even in K so how could you fail to ask about the end game?? Amazing. 9 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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New York City 06.30.08, 02:39 PM Flag
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As some one who has gone through the process twice, everyone on UB posts, dices, analyzes everything about college admissions for every single school. The schools post the info and parents look a it (even if it is a stupid thing to do, IMHO). However, it would be incredibly gauche to actually ask about them at an interview or group meeting. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:42 PM Flag
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What? Why would you ask about college counseling services when applying to Kindergarten?? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:42 PM Flag
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I threatened to sue the school if my Jasper doesn't get into harvard, yale, or as an absolute last resort, Princeton. i call the exmissions director once a week to let her know I'm keeping an eye on her, and willb estopping by regularly once school starts. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:37 PM Flag
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You're a unfunny geek. If you're not interested in the topics move on. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:46 PM Flag
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hit a nerve, huh? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:46 PM Flag
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What nerve? I just find your attempts at humor sophmoric and pathetically unfunny. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:49 PM Flag
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ok, sure. you are just a little too angry, IMO. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:58 PM Flag
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What about my post sounds angry? It seems rather matter of fact to me. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 04:00 PM Flag
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From the "how to make sure everyone knows you're a PITA, in the shortest time frame possible" book [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:44 PM Flag
[ - ] Does anyone know the cost switching an old boiler to gas? The boiler in in the backyard right now. TIA! 6 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:36 PM Flag
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^^ this in an older house (1920s) that we're considering buying. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:37 PM Flag
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if the boiler is buried, that may be your biggest expense as it may need to be tested and remediated and totally emptied then filled with sand. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:43 PM Flag
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You are thinking of the tank. Not the boiler. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:57 PM Flag
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np- it sounds like OP means tank. no one has their boiler outside [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:59 PM Flag
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^^ yes, sorry - meant oil tank. [ Reply | More
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Check the rules in the area where you are buying. We just bought in NJ, a tank was found during the house inspection and the people we were buying from were responsible for removing it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:24 PM Flag
[ - ] Woah, what's with HM moms today? Did something bad happen again and they need to vent their anger somewhere? 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 06.30.08, 02:31 PM Flag
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What is wrong with HM? I was always lead to believe it was a great school [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:42 PM Flag
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Well, they had 2 scandals back to back recently. Swiffergate and Facebook scandal. New York Magazine did a very, very long article on HM's Facebook scandal (and talked about financial woes) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:44 PM Flag
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Also, Mark Penn and Eliot Spitzer went to HM. Has been a bad year of publicity. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:51 PM Flag
[ - ] Does anyone know how many kids will be in the PS9 K G & T class? What about gender breakdown? Anyone know anything about who the teacher will be? 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 06.30.08, 02:22 PM Flag
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The admitted 28 kids - no idea how many accepted or gender breakdown but I heard it was girl heavy [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 04:50 PM Flag
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one of the G&T k teachers has been there for years. my money is on her. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 05:20 PM Flag
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yep. and she is very very special. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 08:28 PM Flag
[ - ] What book are you reading? 10 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:22 PM Flag
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just started "my sister, my love" by Joyce Carol Oates. Interesting so far, a "takeoff" on the JonBenet Ramsey case. Recently finished "then we came to the end" (I think?) by Joshua Ferris. Funny, very accurate assessment about the ridiculousness of working in a big corporate office. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:24 PM Flag
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do you have any nonfiction/biographies in your to-read pile? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:27 PM Flag
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sorry, no. They never seem to appeal to me in the bookstore. There were a few interesting recommendations in NY Magazine in the past week or two though - maybe the one with Obama & McCain on the beach together? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:28 PM Flag
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eeeeh.. that would definitely not appeal to me- political books, yucky [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:36 PM Flag
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The Grandmothers by Doris Lessing and Hypnobirthing [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:28 PM Flag
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If you're looking for a good memoir, try "Between Two Worlds" by Zainab Salbi - she grew up in Iraq, father was Sadaam's pilot. Fascinating book. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:38 PM Flag
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I agree. A great book. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:49 PM Flag
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"Enchantress of Florence" by Rushdie. It's not like his other things I have read and I am enjoying it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:40 PM Flag
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just finished Wolf at the Table today. I loved it. Next up. The Tender Bar. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:45 PM Flag
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embarrassed to admit - a mary higgins clark I picked up off someone's stoop. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:48 PM Flag
[ - ] looking for a house for august in the hamptons - any suggestions on a good website to search? 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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New York City 06.30.08, 02:21 PM Flag
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Try the big ones - Corcoran [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:29 PM Flag
[ - ] Is there a good site that lists some craft projects/ideas I can do with my 4 yo? 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:21 PM Flag
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Try FamilyFun.com, Crayola.com. Some on MarthaStewart.com (I am thinking of melting down old crayons and got the idea there) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:29 PM Flag
[ - ] We're moving from London back to NY. Heard many good things about Park Slope, mostly that the schools are good. Besides 321, what other schools are considered good? Which ones to avoid? thank you. 14 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Preschool/Kids 06.30.08, 02:20 PM Flag
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Isn't 321 the only decent school? Have heard that 10 is up & coming, but I don't know the details. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:21 PM Flag
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OP: so is 321 just decent or really good, "one of the best" in the city as I was told? R there any G&T programs or do people send kids outside the area for G&T? tnx [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:23 PM Flag
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OP: Park Slope moms, please help! Thinking to buy in Park Slope but am concerned about schools. DS is 2 now. I don't want to move in 2 years again because of the school. Should we buy in PS 321 area or some part of Brooklyn? Tnx [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:28 PM Flag
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321 is great, but overcrowded & they will likely rezone in the next 2 years. DOE is really trying to make you stick to your zoned school starting next yr. Lots of up & coming schools b/c of baby boom, but if have $ best: 321, 29, 107...261, 154, 10, 8, 39 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:34 PM Flag
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OP: any insight as to how they're planning to resolve? we r thinking to buy a condo on 2nd ST btw 4th and 5th ave. currently zoned for 321. any clue if this address is at risk for re-zoning out of 321? sorry to be a pain but what sets 321 apart from other schools? extra programs? sports? languages? music? just trying to understand...tnx [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:47 PM Flag
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DOE is not a good source of info. -- I would email the principal Liz Phillips. Little has been said publicly so far. I imagine this is a huge issue for people in your boat & you are surely not alone. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:11 PM Flag
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That little school on 6th Ave and 7th Street has a good rep, too. Anyone? Check insideschools.org [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:38 PM Flag
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Just registered my daughter there, PS 39. Not sure how we are gonna get there. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:40 PM Flag
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321, 29 and The Children's School (impossible to get in since it is a lottery). After that 58, and 261 would be my next choices. The New School is not so academic but sweet. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:47 PM Flag
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whar sets 321 and 29 apart from others? just trying to understand what these schools offer...so hard to decide when we can't even do a school tour as we're in London :-( [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:52 PM Flag
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321 and 107 in Park Slope had the highest ELA/Math scores, especially the % of 4's, which means above grade level. After that they are all fairly similar: 29, 261, 58, Children's School, New School. Don't know about 39, although it's also supposed to be good. I think beyond those schools, you need to think about what you want. 321 is notorious for overcrowding now. My kids are at 58, and many people like it because it has a dual language French program, strings program, and is very small compared to some of the other schools. But they all have strengths and weaknesses -- inside schools is a good source for you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:01 PM Flag
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I noticed that the scores for PS 107 in Park Slope were amazing this year. Higher than 321, and way higher than 29. I don't know what they are doing, but something right -- nearly every single kid is at least at grade level, with a huge percentage way above. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:55 PM Flag
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^^^meant the ELA and Math scores [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:56 PM Flag
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What about 10? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:08 PM Flag
[ - ] just got the word that my sister is converting and marrying a Mormon man. I think I'm going to freak out in a bit. We are Jewish, BTW. She has been dating him for about a year, but she never mentioned that this would have to happen. 48 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:19 PM Flag
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wow. That's going to be interesting. Its one thing to marry someone not jewish and to integrate both religions into the dbs life, etc, and quite another to convert to mormonism. GL to you and I think you deserve to freak out a little bit. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:23 PM Flag
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And she always said he wasn't religios so it wouldn't be an issue. Now it's about to hit the celestial fan ! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:24 PM Flag
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hey, they're in love- good for them [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:25 PM Flag
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ITA - that's a big deal, and could be very difficult to reconcile. Did you grow up in a religious home? I hope your family is doing ok with this. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 04:31 PM Flag
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we are not observant other than the big ones, but this is a toughie. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 10:40 AM Flag
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OP who knows if they'll do both religions really. How can you ? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 10:45 AM Flag
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Is she happy? Is he a nice guy? Good luck to them [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:24 PM Flag
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she seems happy and seems to be very nice. i am just a bit wary that this is a last-minute condition for them to marry. Maybe it was always stated but she neglected tomention it / hear it / acknowledge it up until now ? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:31 PM Flag
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maybe she was afraid of you judging her [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:32 PM Flag
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maybe [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:32 PM Flag
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not that much you can do about it except be happy for them [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:33 PM Flag
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you are correct, but we cannot be at the wedding ceremony and there's this weird thing about Baptisms and it's just very new. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:35 PM Flag
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Yeah, but what is weird to you is normal to someone else. Keep your mind and heart open [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:37 PM Flag
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I am trying to do just that, but the fact that his family wants to baptize our dead relatives so that they will be in heaven with his family one day is an "odd" concept and one my family is not happy about. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:39 PM Flag
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So what? All religions are odd- all of them have different rituals, but you know what? The important thing is to be a good person- your sister found a good guy. Try to let go of the 'rules' [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:41 PM Flag
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I am her family advocate - as it were - but I can't get behind this one. If my Nanny wanted to be baptized, she would have done it while she was alive. Ditto for my Uncle Heshy, Aunt Minnie, and the rest of my dead jewish family members. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:44 PM Flag
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np: I think any religion that would say OP's family can't be at the ceremony kind of sucks. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:02 PM Flag
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It will take place in the temple where only Mormons in good standing can enter. They will have some sort of ceremony after for the rest of us, but they will officially be married without anyone from her side of the family present. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:05 PM Flag
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That's awful. And while it may not be PC to say so, I think it's the first in many ways in which she will pull away from you. Sorry. But if a religion doesn't accept other religions and is so enmeshed in your every day life, she will be forced to chose [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:08 PM Flag
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the fear is that you are 100% correct [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:09 PM Flag
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ita...people are so programmed not to object to anything that's done in the name of religion, but this will tear their family apart! i'd be so alarmed as well! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 04:44 PM Flag
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It's a very odd religion. Someone told me that unless you get married at the main temple in Utah, then you are only married for this life, not the next. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 04:45 PM Flag
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you have to get married within any Mormon temple - not only the one in SLC - but that "seals" for time and all eternity as a family. That is also why they want to baptize people who were never baptized (or even Christian apparently). It's all for the "after" [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 05:25 PM Flag
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I can't think of any other religion that doesn't allow non-believers to attend. That really sucks. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:05 PM Flag
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my father is close to apoplectic. he feels that this woman - his daughter as he raised her and knew her - would never stand for any of this. It's not a fun situation and yet i want to be happy and joyous for her. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:09 PM Flag
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i am with your dad! this all sounds crazy, and why does this mormon's religion trump YOUR WHOLE FAMILY'S?? wow. I'd be livid!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 04:43 PM Flag
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I think she feels that since we're pretty non-observant and his parents are observant they win ? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 05:23 PM Flag
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OP maybe she shouldn't have made a judgement about my being judgemental [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:46 PM Flag
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How many sister wives will she have? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:25 PM Flag
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no. not like that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:29 PM Flag
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Uh huh. That's how it STARTS. WIthin 5 years he'll have her on a compound. You'll see. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:32 PM Flag
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It can certainly make for some interesting wedding toasts. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:32 PM Flag
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like people would make slurs at a wedding [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:34 PM Flag
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seems like a lot of the women here would feel ready to do just that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:52 PM Flag
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That's fundamentalist Mormonism [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:33 PM Flag
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It's all the same. These guys look for reasons to have multiple wives. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:35 PM Flag
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OP and it's not even close. I was a religion minor and know what it is, and it is not fundamentalist LDS stuff. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:36 PM Flag
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Uh huh. Keep telling yourself that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:37 PM Flag
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np: Do you think that Reform Jews follow the same practices as Hassidim? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:38 PM Flag
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The world doesn't look like hbo [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:38 PM Flag
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np: Actually, the random couple that lives across the street from the Hendricksons is pretty representative.... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:40 PM Flag
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I don't know them [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:42 PM Flag
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I can't wait for that show to start up again. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:59 PM Flag
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Jan 09 - writers strike delayed production. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 10:41 AM Flag
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that sucks [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 10:45 AM Flag
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No, it isn't the same. Fundamentialist Mormons broke away from Mormonism a long time ago. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:37 PM Flag
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lol... was thinking the same thing. when is big love coming back??? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 10:40 AM Flag
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OP Out of respect, there will probably be no alcohol at the post-wedding "ceremony". I asked if we could get stoned in the parking lot, but she asked me not to joke... I think this whole thing is going to hard on her too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 10:31 AM Flag
[ - ] 13wks pregnant after a miscarriage, doctor did an ultrasound at 9 wks and saw the heartbeat (170bpm) at 12 weeks they used a doppler to hear the heart beat and found it (164bpm) I still so afraid that I am going to miscarry, my dh thinks I am being overly paranoid but it is all I can think about. 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:19 PM Flag
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totally normal to feel that way. Probably everything willbe fine though. GL [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:31 PM Flag
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I hat a doppler at 140 today at 18 weeks and no one seemed worried. I even asked if that was okay. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 02:43 PM Flag
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The chances of you miscarrying are really small at this point. Stop googling all that can go wrong. There are so many sad stories out there, but these are not the norm. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:00 PM Flag
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You will be fine. Heartbeat sounds just fine. Just think happy thoughts. This is from someone who miscarried 3 times, and now have 3 babies as well. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 03:19 PM Flag
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