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[ - ] In a pickle. I still "cuddle" ( I lay down w/ him until he's out) my 8 mo down for naps and sleep. He was a VERY fussy newborn, and this was the only way to get him down. Now? He's used to it and cries if I just put him in his crib. My dad watches him 2 days a week and my mom watches him the other 3. Both have to do the same for naps, but they say they love it, so who cares? Still, I wonder if I'm doing a disservice, as he cannot fall asleep on his own. I feel like I'm in a permanent situation here, how do I (we) stop? 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Newborn 07.14.08, 12:28 PM Flag
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he'll probably grow out of it before you do. I snuggled #1 to sleep until she was 2. Now, she wants to go to bed by herself. at 8 months, it's fine! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:32 PM Flag
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If you are happy with this situation then dc is still young so I wouldn't worry. If you want to teach dc to go to sleep on his own then you might find the Babywhisperer book helpful for gentle sleep training techniques. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:42 PM Flag
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i would start trying to teach db to sleep on his own now--- it's a stage where he ought to learn how to self soothe [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 09:48 AM Flag
[ - ] any favorite everyday school shoes (upcoming kindergartener)? had merrells last year. 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:26 PM Flag
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girl or boy? for our dd, any mary-jane type shoe, she usually goes for brown leather with some sort of decoration and a sneaker-like sole. also boots for when it gets cold. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:31 PM Flag
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girl - any fav brands? styles? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:33 PM Flag
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I love thee primiggis. But in K they start making kids wear sneakers on the days they have PE - - so I chuck taylors worked well for us this year. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:38 PM Flag
[ - ] we rented a car yesterday, and have a car seat that works facing both backwards and forward. my dh was trying to install it facing back, as dd is only 9mo, and rental car guy happened to see this and said, oh i'd put it forward, it's much safer this way. is this true? 6 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Newborn 07.14.08, 12:23 PM Flag
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for a 9mo, yes [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:25 PM Flag
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Not true. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:39 PM Flag
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No, face backward until at least 1yo/20lbs. Many can go further than that [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:28 PM Flag
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It is always safer to face back. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:44 PM Flag
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no. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:44 PM Flag
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no, they should be rear facing until at least 20 lbs AND 1 yr old [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:45 PM Flag
[ - ] Let's try this. What makes a private school top tier (ongoing)? Give me a definition that allows me to create a table with all the data that is necessary for a ranking. 110 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 07.14.08, 12:19 PM Flag
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A bigger % of kids who are very smart (there are smart kids in every school but TTs have a bigger share of them). This allows their academic program to be more accelerated/rigorous. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:21 PM Flag
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That has nothing to do with the ranking. The rankings are based solely on the percentage of kids that get into Ivy league and other highly competitive colleges. The infamous 'exmissions'. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:23 PM Flag
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that's it? So that list should change every year then, right? So, what numbers would you use to categorize a school top tier? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:24 PM Flag
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NO the list would not change every year. For 80 years the tt schools that are considered tt have been tt. This is not new! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:25 PM Flag
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again. what makes a school top tier. Hard facts, please. Who decides a school is TT? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:26 PM Flag
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I think we are giving you those. B and C year after year produce the best results in comparison to all other schools, with a few years in the 80s going to Chapin. But B, C, Coll, Spence and Chapin are always and will always be TT schools. What else do you want? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:31 PM Flag
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Brearley, Collegiate, Spence, Chapin and Trinity have been the TT consistently for generations [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:25 PM Flag
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that doesn't help to find a clear definition of what TT means [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:27 PM Flag
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Yes it does, look at OR below. A TT is a school that decade after decade proves that it among all the others sned the highest % of students to the top colleges. A bad year of getting students into Harvard is always mitigated by that many more going to Yale or MIT among the absolute top schools. But yes, do the years vary at sacred heart or at others/ yep [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:30 PM Flag
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okay. so over time you see that it has always been the same schools at the top. Those are top tier schools. How is 2nd tier defined then? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:31 PM Flag
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That I don't know anything about really, I don't know how that is determined. I think it is easy to pick out the top I don't know how you then go down the list to be frank [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:33 PM Flag
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Well, these schools just mean Waspy schools. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:29 PM Flag
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No. Absolutely incorrect. Brearley is an incredibly jewish school as is HM and Trinity [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:30 PM Flag
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B got its good rep'n thanks to admitting Jewish girls. But only compared to C and S. Still pretty waspy to me. Trinity is very waspy. Or they only admit wannabe jews. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:32 PM Flag
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Thats your opinion but those of us who knew people there and went to those schools and have dcs there know better, sorry. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:34 PM Flag
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and that is your opinion, darling. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:39 PM Flag
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One based on experience, not a 30 minute school tour. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:40 PM Flag
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Of course not. You think you are the only one who grew up here? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:43 PM Flag
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I know you didn't and if you did were not at a school considered great [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:45 PM Flag
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I think you are the same woman who comes here and posts all the same posts. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:46 PM Flag
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If you 'think' you know one anonymous poster vs another than you are on here way too much and are far too invested in some sort of twisted agenda. Let it go. Get outside. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:48 PM Flag
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hold up a mirror once in a while [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:49 PM Flag
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Over time it has actually been very stable, though obviously every school has good and bad years. Even bad year at TT school is generally better than any year at lower tier school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:26 PM Flag
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NP: and exmissions are in direct correlation to how rigorous their academic program throughout ms and high school are. harvard would not take 4 from a class of 50 if they were not a sure thing. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:24 PM Flag
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they don't always do that anyway, even the TT schools don't have great year every year. School matters but it does depend on the kids graduating that year too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:27 PM Flag
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Yes they do. Since my mother was a child Brearley and Collegiate have jockeyed for the number 1 and 2 slots. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:28 PM Flag
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That does not mean either of them does not have bad years too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:31 PM Flag
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I don't think you are understanding, or you don't want to understand because it hurts. Brearley and Collegiate and Spence and Chapin always have better years than all the other schools. Do they sometimes do better than another TT or worse, I am sure but this list of TT schools never changes [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:33 PM Flag
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TT mom here but you are way too invested in keeping the TT list same. I think it's a fluid thing. It could change. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:42 PM Flag
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But it hasn't in 100 years so just asking...why now? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:43 PM Flag
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What happened in the past can change in the future if the school doesn't keep up. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:45 PM Flag
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but the only goal for these schools is to keep up. that is their mission so it is unlikely [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:47 PM Flag
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What the f$%^ is a TT Mom [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:43 PM Flag
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I could care less, someone was asking what made the top schools the top and I was sharing a lifetime of experience and that of my relatives to explain why the same list has existed with the same school forever. If you want to think it is suddenly going to change alright, but its up to Harvard Yale and Princeton to take a chance on admitting 7 marymount girls and seeing how they do at college [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:44 PM Flag
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Keep spreading this nuttiness! Exmissions to Ivy League Colleges and other top Universities are the basis of a top tier school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 01:07 PM Flag
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A 'tt' private school is a school that has proven decade after decade that colleges - HYP and other top colleges - have no problem taking an over proportionate number of students from because the education is so excellent that any student who managed to get through the HS is a going to be a guaranteed performer. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:23 PM Flag
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so, you would tabulate the exmissions numbers, put them on a curve and the, what? Schools in the 90th percentile and up are called TT? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:25 PM Flag
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I wouldn't know how to tabulate based on %tile. But the schools are are absolutely there every year are the same because they each come within one or two students (points :-) of great exmissions for their class size, so that would be B, S, C and Collegiate, Trinity and HM. Whoever else you want to include based on 90th % you can include but those are the constants [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:27 PM Flag
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okay. how about 2nd tier schools compared to 3rd tier schools? where would you draw the line between those? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:30 PM Flag
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Don't know I imagine you go down the list and see where each falls after the best schools. I do think that the level of college acceptances varies much more year to year than among the top schools, but I have never looked. Traditionally the 2nd level was comprised of NBS CSH Dalton and Marymount and a few others below that [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:38 PM Flag
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Well, I know several people who chose Dalton over B,C,S,HM, Cl. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:51 PM Flag
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I am sure! It is apparently considered very good now [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:58 PM Flag
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I think the schools that people on UB call "2nd tier" would be those schools that generally still do very well on exmissions but either not as consistently or as extensively as the TT schools. As for 3rd tier, I think that's schools that traditionally had a student body who went to a more diverse group of colleges - with far fewer at top colleges. Schools that in the past have not been specifically geared towards really smart high- achieving kids, but more for educating a more "average" student body. Things are changing on this front as schools become more and more competetive to get into. The so-called 4th tier, I would say is comprised of new schools with little to no track record OR schools that traditionally catered (and perhaps still do) towards lower performing students (mild LD, etc.) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 01:21 PM Flag
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^^^ (and perhaps still do) to a lower-achieving student body (mild LD, etc.) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 01:22 PM Flag
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^^^ The K-8 schools's ranking is complicated by the fact that their "exmissions" is to HS (rather than directly to college). Many on UB will say that since not 100% (or close to) of their grads go on to TT HS, that by definition, they cannot be TT. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 01:24 PM Flag
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you forgot Dalton but intentionally so. nativist. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:30 PM Flag
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I forgot Dalton because it was not considered a great school for many many years but I hear it is coming in to its own and it very popular with the new people [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:35 PM Flag
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New people like people who dislike traditional schools and who like coed schools? People who can think for themselves? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:38 PM Flag
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Excuse me? The people new to the city what crawled up your b&tt. Trinity and HM are excellent top schools and are coed. Sorry this offends you, Dalton ma', but it was just not considered a great school until recently. Who cares though it is supposed to be now and isn't that what counts? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:40 PM Flag
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what school did you go to? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:48 PM Flag
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Why? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:59 PM Flag
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Chapin [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:59 PM Flag
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np; she said she didn't include it because it wasn't great until now [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:41 PM Flag
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Who said anything about co-ed schools [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:42 PM Flag
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I think she means Jews. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:43 PM Flag
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Yes because there were no jews at brearley [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:45 PM Flag
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once upon a time there were no jews at brearley. certainly when i graduated in the early 90's there were very few. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:47 PM Flag
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I guess above poster thinks 10 is too many. Keep a ceiling. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:50 PM Flag
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Np it is consistently 25-30% they have a quota in line with national averages for all races and religions [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:51 PM Flag
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all races? now, this is falsehood. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:54 PM Flag
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No really, they do fill quotas based on national average, as close as a school can get with 40 to 45 dcs of course! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:56 PM Flag
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That would mean at least 6-8 black kids should be there, and let me assure you, that is not the case. And why are they using national avg and not NYC stat? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 01:01 PM Flag
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in a group of 40 people in manhattan there will not be 9 black people [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 01:03 PM Flag
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There would be more, of course. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 01:06 PM Flag
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of course not, pick up a census report! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 01:08 PM Flag
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30% of my graduating class was in the mid 80s [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:50 PM Flag
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What does that mean - Nativist? If you mean someone who knows Dalton was not always good, yes, we are the informed natives. i [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 01:13 PM Flag
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but so many of the kids at those schools are drug-addicted socialites... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:26 PM Flag
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yeah, haven't you watched "gossip girl?" [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:27 PM Flag
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Nobody ever said NBS was TT, Next question. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:28 PM Flag
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oh please, they're like that at B, C, Coll, HM, Dalton... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:30 PM Flag
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Nothing like that, I would know you would not. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:30 PM Flag
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oh sure you would. (I didn't post anything about Gossip Girl) I happen to be a relatively recent graduate (2001) of one of the TT girls schools (no, not NBS), and know many at the others mentioned, and trust me, there are a lot of burnouts [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:32 PM Flag
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yawn. me too. take it to toddler. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:34 PM Flag
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clearly attending a tt didn't improve your manners [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:35 PM Flag
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And now you have made it obvious that you are an outsider. Take the greyhound back to LI [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:36 PM Flag
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wow... I'm sorry your shrink hasn't ever been able to help you with your issues [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:38 PM Flag
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Did you enjoy Birch? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:42 PM Flag
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loved the other B, actually [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:44 PM Flag
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Impossible [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:45 PM Flag
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np - why would that be impossible? I don't understand what your problem is with this poster? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:46 PM Flag
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as there are at any (private or public) schools. The thing is, though, that kids at private schools don't really drop out because of social and family pressures due to expectations etc. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:35 PM Flag
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Well said [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:36 PM Flag
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of course not, but they continue on to colleges (HYP or not) and their habits usually don't improve. about 15% of my graduating class has been in rehab at one point or another or should have been (or be) since we graduated, and I know so many more from other schools [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:37 PM Flag
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NP: Public school mom spreading myths. You go public school mom! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:38 PM Flag
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bitter 2nd tier grad [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:39 PM Flag
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probably [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:41 PM Flag
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You graduated in 2001 and have a child? Yikes. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:59 PM Flag
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I am 25 and pregnant with my first. What on earth is wrong with that? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 01:04 PM Flag
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Why are you on this board? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 01:07 PM Flag
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How old is your dh? What did you do before pg? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 01:07 PM Flag
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She went to chapin she didn't do much I bet [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 01:08 PM Flag
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No, I did not go to Chapin [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 01:10 PM Flag
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My dh is 29. I did - and still do - run an art gallery, which I will continue to do once I stay home with my db for 3 months [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 01:09 PM Flag
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oh we know who you are, or I do if you really went to Brearley. You are hardly what any of us would call a working mother using her education. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 01:12 PM Flag
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highly doubt you know who I am, but I'm happy to make you feel so much better about yourself [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 01:13 PM Flag
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I highly doubt you run anything. I have clients waiting. See you at the reunion [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 01:14 PM Flag
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believe whatever you'd like to believe, but I am the director, so yes, I run the gallery [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 01:15 PM Flag
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Who spoke at B commencement in 2005? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 01:16 PM Flag
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and then there was silence . . . [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 01:19 PM Flag
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She's Charlotte York! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 01:15 PM Flag
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no, she was from CT [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 01:16 PM Flag
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Clearly a very busy art gallery. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 01:12 PM Flag
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Oh yes, very busy as everyone but pregnant me is just returning from sales in London and now the slow summer starts.... but I'm having a down day [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 01:14 PM Flag
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i don't see how you can separate out the legacy factor in the "tts" exmissions record. It's plain that they send a ton of kids to Ivy colleges because of family connections as well as the quality of the schooling. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:44 PM Flag
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that may be true but it doesn't mean that the exmissions data is not what makes a school tt [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:45 PM Flag
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So many dcs in my school even in the 80s had parents who did not go to ivies and yet the % of students going to ivies remained the same level as today [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:46 PM Flag
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OR HERE: I was just trying to answer OPs question truthfully and based in facts. You other moms nipping at each other about schools are pathetic. With attitudes like the ones exhibited in this thread, which school it tt won't matter because none of your dcs will get in. Goodbye. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:49 PM Flag
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wow! and you think the anderson moms are nuts? you are all INSANE! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:51 PM Flag
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OP here. I am actually a public school mom but was kind of missing the private school moms. Here I git them all together now. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 01:04 PM Flag
[ - ] anyone know of a company that rents cribs ? 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:19 PM Flag
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No. We took folding portable cribs (peapod type of thing)up to 1yr and would use an aero bed now if we needed to. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:59 PM Flag
[ - ] Coffee ice cream. No wait. Coffee milkshake. Mmmmm.... 13 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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New York City 07.14.08, 12:09 PM Flag
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Carl’s Jr has a captain crunch milk shake. I know it sounds gross but when I was pregnant I craved captain crunch like no other. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:12 PM Flag
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and - presumably - you weren't even stoned ! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:13 PM Flag
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No not the case. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:18 PM Flag
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cold espresso, crushed ice, a little sugar, and low-fat milk all in the blender. [ Reply | More
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affrogato (sp??) a shot of espresso with a scoop of vanilla gelato. mmmmm... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:14 PM Flag
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affogatto [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:19 PM Flag
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comes from the Italian verb "to drown" [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:20 PM Flag
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had that for dessert yesterday... mmmm [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:21 PM Flag
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Haagen-Dazs makes the best coffee ice cream. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:20 PM Flag
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oooooooooh yeah! My mom never drank coffee but she lived on that stuff.... so reminds me of childhood [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:24 PM Flag
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Tom's Diner (the Seinfeld Diner) has great milkshakes. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:22 PM Flag
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Went to school there and I used to love the shakes with the fries and gravy. "Make it nice" we used to say. Yes, I got very fat in college. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:31 PM Flag
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everyone please stop! I'm ravenous and can't get out to get some food! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:32 PM Flag
[ - ] So good for Bush finally growing some balls. 75 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:03 PM Flag
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to what are you referring? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:08 PM Flag
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Lifting the off shore oil drilling. Maybe we will see some relief at the pump! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:10 PM Flag
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doubt it. makes me shudder at the consequences [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:11 PM Flag
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ITA!!! About damn time! Now let's open Anwar! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:11 PM Flag
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so stupid [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:14 PM Flag
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so we should stay dependant on foriegn oil? That makes lot's of sense. Why shouldn't we explore our own optiions? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:21 PM Flag
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why not become un-dependent on oil- a non-renewable resource? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:24 PM Flag
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touche ! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:25 PM Flag
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fine, but it's not going to happen over night. Why not do both? It's not like we have to pick [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:26 PM Flag
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we should pick. We should as a country make a decision to redirect - course correct - this ship. That would be a president growing some balls. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:28 PM Flag
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ita- manifest destiny did not work out. time for stewardship [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:29 PM Flag
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Because once you've ruined the environment, you can't recreate it [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:29 PM Flag
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drilling does not automatically ruin anything. Remember Katrina? There are oil rigs out there and nothing, not one drop, spilled anywhere. They have gotten much much better about preventing accidents etc [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:31 PM Flag
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oil is a non-renewable resource. we should be figuring out how to reduce consumption [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:33 PM Flag
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Thanks for reminding us of Katrina. Another Bush admin. job well done. ""Good job, Brownie !" [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:33 PM Flag
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but, look, they didn't spill any oil, so it's all ok [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:35 PM Flag
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sigh. There is plenty of blame to go around on that one - most of it should go to the democratic governor and the democratic corrutp local govt. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:35 PM Flag
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sure [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:38 PM Flag
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actually, there were more than 40 oil spills in the aftermath of Katrina, with a total volume of over 7 million gallons. google is your friend. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 08:02 PM Flag
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precisely, irreversible damage will be done, much more than what we've done already [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:32 PM Flag
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"The opening of the ANWR 1002 Area to oil and natural gas development is projected to increase domestic crude oil production starting in 2018. In the mean ANWR oil resource case, additional oil production resulting from the opening of ANWR reaches 780,000 barrels per day in 2027 and then declines to 710,000 barrels per day in 2030. In the low and high ANWR oil resource cases, additional oil production resulting from the opening of ANWR peaks in 2028 at 510,000 and 1.45 million barrels per day, respectively. Between 2018 and 2030, cumulative additional oil production is 2.6 billion barrels for the mean oil resource case, while the low and high resource cases project a cumulative additional oil production of 1.9 and 4.3 billion barrels, respectively." [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 08:07 PM Flag
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omg, you are moron. newsflash: anwar and other domestic sources won't put a dent in the oil problem, no matter what story or stats big oil sells you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.21.08, 10:07 PM Flag
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naive and silly [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:12 PM Flag
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Why naive and silly? Not everyone lives in Manhattan and can rely on public transportation. It is important to show the Oil countries that we have the option of drilling else where. Don't you agree? If not totally then slightly at least! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:14 PM Flag
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ruining our environment further for something that will not bring any relief to gas prices? no matter where you live this is a bad idea [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:15 PM Flag
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Where do you live? I bet nowhere near the drilling [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:16 PM Flag
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live in Redondo Beach, CA so you are not correct [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:17 PM Flag
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we do not have even remotely enough to make the smallest dent in what we consume. It is a tiny band-aid on a gaping wound and the bonus is that we can screw up our environment further in the process. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:16 PM Flag
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Right! Read the NY Times editorial Big Pander to Big Oil (June 19, 2008)--sorry, I don't know how to attach link. The oil companies already have leases to dig on dry land that they don't make use of--they are drilling in only a fraction of them. They are pressing Bush to lift the ban on offshore drilling so they can grab up the leases before Bush leaves. They should be forced to use the leases they have before being given new ones offshore. Also, as the article points out, there is no way that the country that consumes 25 percent of oil production can drill its way out of a problem when they own only 3 percent of the reserves. You are dreaming if you think the environmental risk of offshore drilling is going to give you relief at the pump.[ [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 03:13 PM Flag
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np: i think it's naive to believe that drilling more and more is a better alternative to using less and less. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:17 PM Flag
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exactly. Why are some people so opposed to just admitting we created a big problem for ourselves and change is the logical and real solution for the energy problem and our security problems in the long run as well. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:18 PM Flag
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np what's wrong with doing both? Why shouldn't we explore and drill for our own oil? Did you know that Cuba is negotiating with several other countries (including China) right now to drill just a few miles off of our shore anyway? I have a lot more confidence in American companies than I do in China and cuba to do it safely [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:25 PM Flag
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Exxon-Valdez anyone? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:28 PM Flag
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how many years ago was that? Yes, it happens but when Katrina came through, nothing was ruined. There are oil rigs off the coast of Louisiana and nothign spilled. Not one drop. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:33 PM Flag
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would we have even heard a lot about any spills when the city was underwater, people were literally dying in the streets, and the US looked like Cambodia ? Focus was elsewhere. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:35 PM Flag
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maybe not right away but do you really think the dems would let something like an oil spill pass notice? Ha! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:36 PM Flag
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oh, we wacky democrat crazies ! We should really mellow out with the whole enviromental safety thing ! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:39 PM Flag
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LOL! Look - I'm not saying we shouldn't be careful. I'm just pointing out that they have gotten much better at preventing spills. Drilling does not mean the earth or even the region, will be forevermore ruined. I think it's a good idea and about time we did it! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:41 PM Flag
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do you not think that it's about time we realized that we cannot have our economy ruled by the cost of oil ? Do you not think it would be wise and forward thinking and in our nation's best interests to put our strength into a real long-term honest solution ? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:42 PM Flag
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yes. I do. But I don't see why we can't do both. Drill here for what we have and work on alternatives. It doesn't have to be an either or choice [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:50 PM Flag
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actually, there were over 40 oil spills, with a total volume of over 7 million gallons. you can look it up. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 08:05 PM Flag
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:24 PM Flag
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have you seen the TV spots by T. Boone Pickins (oil guy) talking about how we created a huge disaster for ourselves and renewable resources like solar and wind are the answer. This from an oil man ! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:26 PM Flag
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no- hmmm, interesting [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:36 PM Flag
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they're all over CNN, FOX, and on the Sunday shows this weekend. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:40 PM Flag
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you're dreaming. It won't make any difference for a very long time on gas prices [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:14 PM Flag
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I think we will not see a huge plummet in gas prices but maybe we will see the prices sustain and not rise. That would be helpful [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:16 PM Flag
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maybe you have some information that every other energy analyst is not privy to. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:17 PM Flag
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nope it will take close to a decade for it to make any impact on our oil prices [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 03:10 PM Flag
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Exactly, while it is going to make environmental mess. Don't the states get a say in this anyway? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:17 PM Flag
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In 10 years! You have to be kidding. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:15 PM Flag
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fool me once -- shame on you; fool me twice -- shame on me. Fool me two hundred and fifty seven times in seven years... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:21 PM Flag
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Luckily he is not fooling anyone any more. Diversion from the financial markets fiasco he is sitting on. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:25 PM Flag
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yeah, b/c he's been so reluctant to stand up to the environmentalists. What planet are you writing from? The guy is all balls. And the offshore drilling won't make any difference to prices or to the Saudi princes who have their own geologists and know exactly how much more oil they have than we do. You're dreaming. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:27 PM Flag
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test [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.21.08, 10:57 PM Flag
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yeah, cause invading a country is so pansy ass [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:09 PM Flag
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It's not productive, that's for sure [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:10 PM Flag
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Not referring to War, I meant standing up to our now democratic Senate. War was prior to dem senate. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:10 PM Flag
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he sure is something for conservatives to be proud of. thumbs up ! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:12 PM Flag
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now if he could just grow some brains [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:13 PM Flag
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and Cheney a heart, and if Scott McClellan had been given some courage... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:16 PM Flag
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Oh my! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:17 PM Flag
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BUSH=MORON [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 05:24 PM Flag
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The shame of it is the Lion was brave, the Tinman did have a heart and the Scarecrow was smart. Those three are as cowardly, dumb and heartless as they seem. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:19 PM Flag
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but there are people out there who must feel that they do not deserve more. I honestly believe that there are people who are afraid of smart people in power - it's too confusing when they use big words and have big ideas - and so they go for someone who speaks to the lowest common denominator. They are smiling and happy to be taken to the woodshed. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:23 PM Flag
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OMG! There is so much wrong with that that I don't even know where to start [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:28 PM Flag
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than say nothing [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:29 PM Flag
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No. She's on the mark, I'd say. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:32 PM Flag
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I think the people behind Bush found some great code words to replace the words you can't say in polite company. And they played on the basest fears of many Americans about immigrants, about African-Americans, etc. (Now I don't think this is true of all Republicans or even of all Conservatives -- but I think this is true of many of the Reagan Republicans. Many of the Gingrich/Contract on America Republicans. And others.) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:31 PM Flag
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I love you. let's go out and have a smart cocktail together ! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:34 PM Flag
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Make mine an apple Manhattan. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:48 PM Flag
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lol [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:23 PM Flag
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Read the NY Times editorial Big Pander to Big Oil (June 19, 2008)--sorry, I don't know how to attach link. The oil companies already have leases to dig on dry land that they don't make use of--they are drilling in only a fraction of them. They are pressing Bush to lift the ban on offshore drilling so they can grab up the leases before Bush leaves. They should be forced to use the leases they have before being given new ones offshore. Also, as the article points out, there is no way that the country that consumes 25 percent of oil production can drill its way out of a problem when they own only 3 percent of the reserves. You are dreaming if you think the environmental risk of offshore drilling is going to give you relief at the pump. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 03:06 PM Flag
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I don't give a sh*t what that a**hole does about anything....just counting the days for his sorry, lying, corrupt, dumb-a** to GET OUT of the White House forever [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 05:23 PM Flag
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There needs to be a comprehensive systematic strategy to encourage innovation and investment in all alternatives and in nuclear - unfortunately comprehensive , systematic and strategy are not three words that either the current administration or congress are familiar with [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.21.08, 09:19 PM Flag
[ - ] want to go away over New Years with another family. will be 2 toddlers in total. where's a good place to go not more than a 3 hour plane or car ride from NYC? thinking warm place is better as more for kids to do. (1 kid will be 19 mos, other 3 1/2) 9 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:02 PM Flag
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Florida [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:04 PM Flag
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any place in particular? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:05 PM Flag
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np: look for a resort where you can each get a condo - then you will have plenty of room and kids can sleep while you cook, etc. Also, south carolina beaches might be another option - Kiawah Island is great. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:06 PM Flag
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will it be warm in Dec/Jan? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:09 PM Flag
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go to caribbean if you want to swim in the ocean/gulf. Florida is not hot enough in Jan [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:09 PM Flag
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ITA [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:09 PM Flag
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actually i would do a cruise and leave from nyc; but only if you can find one with childcare fo the 19 month old and that might be tough - typically starts at 2 yo [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:05 PM Flag
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why do we need childcare? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:07 PM Flag
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np: my friend did a Disney cruise that left from NY. She said it was cheesy, but fun. But she did this in the summer -- would be awfully cold to be outside on the deck in the winter. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:08 PM Flag
[ - ] expecting #2 any day. Any book suggestions for either preparing older sib or sib rivalry. Yeah I know I'm a little late to start reading up.. 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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Expecting 07.14.08, 12:00 PM Flag
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Our #1 was only 21mo when #2 arrived. We used I'm a big brother now and another new baby picture book. It didn't help at all! GL [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:52 PM Flag
[ - ] can I whine for a minute? Next week we have to go to the lake house with the ILs and extended family for the whole stinking week. DD gets so wound up there and acts up and I feel so judged! The family also judges me for my past and I never feel like I fit in. Most of the time I ignore but a whole week! Geez!Some vacation huh. SIgh 47 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 11:59 AM Flag
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In a way I'm glad someone else feels judged. I've btdt. maybe the weather will be nice and you and dd can go down to the water and play or otherwise distace yourselves. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:02 PM Flag
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:02 PM Flag
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what do you feel judged about? I know I can try to get away some but it's in the middle of nowhere Alabama and there is nowhere to go. And the house has to be just so all the time so it's hard to relax. Who puts white microsuede couches in a lake house for pete's sake? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:03 PM Flag
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are you, by any chance, going to that lake in Gasden, AL or close to there? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:05 PM Flag
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not sure where that is. This one is near Auburn [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:07 PM Flag
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oh - it's going to be really hot. gasden is in north alabama and the lake is gorgeous. will you have a car? you can get away to atlanta from auburn. or are you from atlanta? and if you are, i have a question for you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:09 PM Flag
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I'm in Atlanta - shoot. (And yes - I'm already planning my escape to Auburn for dinner with DH at least once!) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:10 PM Flag
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if you DH is going to be there and he doesn't step in to help with your dd or stand up against your in-laws judgement, there is a real problem with your dh [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:12 PM Flag
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it's more of an undercurrent of judgement. Nothing so easy as out and out blatent statements etc. We are talking about how best to handle the situation since BIL told us what he knew recently. Just very uncomfortable right now. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:18 PM Flag
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i'm the pg one from below. but going on a girls' trip with some friends next month. we're staying at the intercontinental. will we be able to walk anywhere from there or should we rent a car? my friends will want to go out for nice dinners and drinks. from the map it looks like it's right on an interstate which may be bad? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:13 PM Flag
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not sure where that is - downtown? Buckhead? I'll google if you want to hold on [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:13 PM Flag
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looks like there are 3. 1 in Buckhead, 1 in sandy springs and one near tha airport. Do you know which one it is? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:14 PM Flag
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oh - sorry - it's in buckhead. but i haven't been there in 20 yrs so i have no clue if that's a walkable area. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:15 PM Flag
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trying to figure out how to use the map on the site! In general, Buckhead is not very walkable. There is a shuttle that goes around, I think for free. They should be able to tell you about that at the hotel. Atlanta is not very walkable really. One of ths things I don't like about it. You should be able to have fun though! What are you going to do? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:19 PM Flag
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i plan to a) sleep, b) lounge by the pool, c) read and d) hang out with my friends - all in that order. they are all big partiers so i will definitely be hanging out at the hotel alone at night while they party. but that is fine with me. i'm psyched for the change of scenery and the break from normal life. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:21 PM Flag
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also - is there a place with highland in the name that is a fun place to shop? is that close to buckhead? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:22 PM Flag
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virginia-highlands is the area. It's closer to midtown (4 or 5 miles from buckhead I would guess) Near piedmont park. It's pretty small but very nice. Mid town has gotten really nice but I haven't been anywhere lately. What kinds of things do you want to shop for? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:23 PM Flag
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sorry, but you have to go to the lake house? Just spend quality time with your dd and ignore others [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:03 PM Flag
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yes. Have to go. For the whole week. I get tons of quality time with DD all the time (SAHM) and she gets so worked up with her cousins around that she stops being fun and I have to be mean mom. Sigh [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:04 PM Flag
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You sound like such a spoiled brat. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:04 PM Flag
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aww- that's mean. She doesn't come off like a brat at all [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:05 PM Flag
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I have to go to the lake house? I get tons of qt with dd all the time... so she's not fun.... give me a break! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:06 PM Flag
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That probably came out wrong. I just meant that it's not like I never get to see DD b/c I work FT. In that case, yes, I would probably look forward to that aspect of things. But when routine changes, it's hard to deal with a 3yo who is in a tantruming stage. That's all I meant. I end up having to be the mean one all the time trying to keep some semblance of order and make sure she eats well and sleeps enough [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:10 PM Flag
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well, remember that it is vacation and she's 3 and probably doesn't get to see cousins much, so give her a bit of extra space [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:11 PM Flag
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true and I do, but I can't let her scream constantly in a small house! Thanks! ;-) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:27 PM Flag
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I still don't see anything wrong!? I can empathize [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:12 PM Flag
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thank you! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:08 PM Flag
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I said I was whining. I know it's not a big problem compared to what some haev (and what I have dealt with in the past) but it sucks to be stuck with people who judge you for your past and not feel comfortable around "family". K? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:06 PM Flag
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maybe you're perceiving the judgement? Just try and go with the flow and remember its only a week [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:07 PM Flag
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that is what I thought but I recently found out from BIL that it's real. Made me feel less crazy to know it's actually happening, but sad that it's real too if that makes any sense. My new mantra "it's only a week!" [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:08 PM Flag
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how does your bil know? does he judge you? is he judged too? can you two form some sort of pact? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:11 PM Flag
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he talks to his sisters and mom so he knows what has been said. I have kind of a sordid past which stemmed from some abuse in my teen years. Nothing I'm proud of and I try to live better now, but hey - no one is perfect! And everything I did is pretty standard reaction to sexual abuse. BIL will not be there. If he was coming, I would at least have fun with him! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:12 PM Flag
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but you dh is going to be there? [ Reply | More
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yes. He is more relaxed around his family of course, but he also gets worked up and they sometimes have big fights. I feel like I have to walk on eggshells around everyone. Sounds fun doesn't it? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:15 PM Flag
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next year the 3 of you should take a vacation alone [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:19 PM Flag
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We would love to but we are kind of broke right now. Maybe in a few years. DH's whole family does this every yearand we are sort of expected to attend. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:22 PM Flag
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At least its temporary- one week, then its over. Keep that in mind. If you have to endure it, remind yourself that it is only 1 week. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:05 PM Flag
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good point. Thanks. I think I can bring enough wine to get through 1 week!! ;-) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:06 PM Flag
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A week is a long time even to be with family you like. Can you pull back as dh is getting wound up and just watch him being wound up- without reacting to him? You don't have to like the people, just be civil and decent, bring a good book, and take walks to get away. Maybe some wine, too [ Reply | More
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maybe this will make you feel better: i already spent 10 days on vacation with the inlaws in the spring. we've got our family trip coming up in a few weeks and guess who just decided to join us? yep - the inlaws. they're not staying WITH us but got a condo about a mile up the beach from ours. didn't even ask and no - they are not easy to be around. let's make a deal - i'll bite my tongue if you'll bite yours. and you drink for me b/c i'm pg. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:05 PM Flag
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Why doesn't your dh put his foot down? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:06 PM Flag
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or: we've been married for 10 years and while it took me a while to figure out, this is a train that can not be stopped. this is really not about him putting his foot down. i know it seems easy to say we should just tell them no but it doesn't work like that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:08 PM Flag
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cancel your vacation and reschedule it, but don't tell them. they'll get the hint. Signed, btdt [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:13 PM Flag
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lol - trust me - dh tried to change the week but couldn't make it work b/t his projects and our kids' school calendar. it would have been the best way to deal but now it's either deal with his parents or back out completely. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:19 PM Flag
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I mean cancel that place and go elsewhere [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:20 PM Flag
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LOL! I will drink for you! No prob! Sigh. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:07 PM Flag
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You should hurry up and get your dd a puppy. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:15 PM Flag
[ - ] last time trying to post interesting blog http://timesonline.typepad.com/alphamummy/2008/07/5-reasons-why-e.html why maternity leave is a bad idea 6 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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I can't get into blogs [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 11:58 AM Flag
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because it's better to just stick your infant immediately into daycare so someone else can raise him or her? God forbid you change a diaper [ Reply | More
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did you read it? [ Reply | More
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LOL! No of course not. Just being snarky because I'm stressed out [ Reply | More
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