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[ - ] I need some suggestions for boy names. I gave my son a very ethnic name (I love it) and no middle name and now I worry about how he will be with it as he gets older. He is just 4 and he already tells me that "people don't know my name when I say it". TIA 6 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:02 PM Flag
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are you planning on renaming him? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:06 PM Flag
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So, are you looking to re-name your 4 year old? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:08 PM Flag
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No, I am just adding a middle name and if when he gets older he wants to go by his middle name then he will jus use the first letter of his first name and then middle name. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:10 PM Flag
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There are a lot of names to choose from out there. What is his first name? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:12 PM Flag
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Keshava [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:19 PM Flag
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K is going to be a tough initial to follow. K Paul, K Patrick, K Dylan, K Jay, K Vincent [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:30 PM Flag
[ - ] how old was db when u started stage 2? 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:53 AM Flag
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I put DD in stage 2 diapers earlier than the suggested weight range since she just seemed too big for the stage 1 diapers. Try a stage 2 on DB and see if it's too loose. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:58 AM Flag
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food? i think after we went through all the stage 1's, 9 mos? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:00 PM Flag
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sorry I meant stage 2 foods! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:37 PM Flag
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stage 2 is the same consistency as stage one, but the jar is bigger. I started when db could finish a stage 1 jar in one sitting 7 or 8 months [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:39 PM Flag
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thanks that is actually what I thought! stage 2 has more variety in flavors that is why I'm interested. db is 6 mo but started solids at 5 mo. starting to wonder if he is ready for puffs/cheerios! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 01:38 PM Flag
[ - ] This heat/humidity is melting me. 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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New York City 07.24.08, 11:51 AM Flag
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I know. I can't stand it. Someone this a.m. was talking about moving to North Carolina. I couldn't imagine this (D.C., either for the same reason). Yuk. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:52 AM Flag
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D.C. is worse actually if that is possible. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:56 AM Flag
[ - ] This sucks. I work in IB and they are reconfiguring our seating. No more view of the hot young IB guys. =( 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 07.24.08, 11:51 AM Flag
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At least you're not being reconfigured to the curb [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:52 AM Flag
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my thoughts exactly [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:52 AM Flag
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Ok, ok. You got me there. But the eye candy...ohhh the eye candy...*sigh* [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:53 AM Flag
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lol. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:54 AM Flag
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In their cute preppie khakis on casual Friday, all ready to head out to the Hamptons...I feel like such a run-down mid-30's...MOM! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:55 AM Flag
[ - ] DH found a deer tick on 2 yo dd yesterday. Spot looks like a pimple, but no red ring (yet). What to do? 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:46 AM Flag
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nothing, deer ticks are very common. watch for a ring. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:46 AM Flag
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That's gross, how could you let that happen? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:47 AM Flag
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lol! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:47 AM Flag
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Given I have a HORRIBLE case of Lyme, I would ask pediatrician for prescription of antibiotics as a precaution and then test DB for Lyme in 6wks (can take a while to show up in tests). I would also save the tick, take it to the doctor and have them send the tick to the lab and lab can test the tick. But my opinion is skewed by my personal experience. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:57 AM Flag
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I second this advice. take your child to pediatrician asap to get antibiotics [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:02 PM Flag
[ - ] this conference call might never ever ever end.... 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:45 AM Flag
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hang up [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:54 AM Flag
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I hate those... when each person takes a turn to see how emphatically they can say nothing while their kisser is up the boss's ass. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:16 PM Flag
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yep [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:17 PM Flag
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LMAO!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:16 PM Flag
[ - ] I have first birth class tonight - can anyone tell me what to expect. Like do I need a notebook, should I be prepared for a graphic video right away, etc.? 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:42 AM Flag
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Likely that they'll give you a pamphlet and you'll probably see a video at the end of the class. The one I saw wasn't very graphic, what bothered me more was hearing 6 different women moaning during the different stages of labor. It made me very uncomfortable, but not in the sense that I was worried about the pain, more that it was something so personal that I shouldn't have seen. Weird. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:46 AM Flag
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Interesting, thanks. I agree that the moaning would be weird. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:53 AM Flag
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You don't need a notebook, you'll get handouts at each class covering the topics of the night. Our video wasn't until the last night. I think ours was shot at a nudist colony. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:58 AM Flag
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lol! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:00 PM Flag
[ - ] I was planning on 3mo to share room with his 2.5yo, but now, I don't understand logistically how it will work. 3mo is in bed at 7pm still wakes up once at 1am, then again at 5am, and I can't get him back down. 2.5yo goes to sleep at 8pm, but loves horsing around around, reading books etc before he sleeps. 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:39 AM Flag
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op: oops, didn't mean to post twice. Anyways, I desperately need some advice. Oh, and the baby sleeps in our room now, but is growing out of the cradle so I am kinda hoping i can move him out soon [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:41 AM Flag
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keep him in your room until he sleeps through the night. 2.5 yo will have to start horsing around elsewhere. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:47 AM Flag
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We kept baby in our room until he was about a year. Then we moved 4yr old into our room and baby into his own room so he could sleep. not ideal, but it worked until we moved to bigger place. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:51 AM Flag
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^^ and looking back, we should have done this much sooner. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:51 AM Flag
[ - ] How many playdates do your kids have during the weekdays? Mine averages 2-3. I think everyday is too much. 12 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:37 AM Flag
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2-3 is too much [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:39 AM Flag
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OP-During the school year perhaps, but I think 3 during summer is ok. DC is 7. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:43 AM Flag
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is dc an only? My kids have playdates 1-2 times a week [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:44 AM Flag
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No, but they are far apart in age, so they can't play with each other. DC #1 is 7; DC #2 is barely 2. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:46 AM Flag
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i see, I guess 2 or 3 playdates a week is fine if your dc enjoys it [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:49 AM Flag
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Even if DCs were close in age, though, I don't think it would be right that the older one always have to play with the younger one or that the younger one get to tage along with the older one. They should each have their own set of friends. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:06 PM Flag
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sure, but that doesn't mean they need playdates 3 or more times a week (if you do 3 during week days and 1-2 on weekends that is a LOT) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:08 PM Flag
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We don't really do many on the weekends. Only occasionally. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:10 PM Flag
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ok. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:11 PM Flag
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1 big playdate and then meeting with friends and their kids another 2-3 times a week. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:48 AM Flag
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My kid is 4 yO and we don't do too many playdates. He's not that into it and nor am I. I guess I'm a bad mom. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:10 PM Flag
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1-2 "official" playdate, but she and a neighbor's dd wind up playing together several times a week. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:10 PM Flag
[ - ] Some advice please. My DS goes to school and now summer camp with another male child who shouts at and occasionally pinches and hits my DS. We have ancouraged DS to stick up for himself and also complained to the school but the other kid's behavior continues. WWYD? 46 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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New York City 07.24.08, 11:30 AM Flag
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I'd start shouting at and pinching the other boy. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:48 AM Flag
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that's really helpful. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:00 PM Flag
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op; don't think i don't want to. but i'd rather give DS some better ways of dealing with it. I feel bad for him; he is only 5. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:01 PM Flag
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np: funny, I never have such aggressive feelings toward 5 yos or other children. I feel protective of my dc, but never aggressive towards others. Where do you people come from? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:08 PM Flag
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Does this boy shout and pinch other children or only yours? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:00 PM Flag
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A couple of other kids as well. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:02 PM Flag
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np: Put the school on notice... "I will not tolerate this child repeatedly assaulting my kid next year." I'm not in favor of parents solving all their kid's problems but there comes a point where a five year old can only do so much without himself becoming violent. If the kid's parent(s) and teacher(s) aren't dealing with this, they need to. This ought not be op's ds's issue alone. And at this point I think OP has a duty to her son to intervene. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:08 PM Flag
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calm down! we don't know very much at all about the situation. OP: please tell us more info. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:10 PM Flag
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Quite the aggressive little boy. Have you or any of the other mothers whose children are his targets addressed this problem with his mother? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:10 PM Flag
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op: yes, we have, and the other mother knows. but neither she nor her husband seems to want to do much about it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:12 PM Flag
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describe your dc. will help telling you how to help him [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:08 PM Flag
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op: i have intervened. I have called the school repeatedly and complained, and also called the mother of the other kid involved. But the behavior doesn't stop. My DS is a very gentle kid, quiet and quite bright. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:11 PM Flag
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what has the school done to intervenr? what have they told you about the situation? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:10 PM Flag
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Do you know his parents? Perhaps mentioning to them in the nicest way possible? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:10 PM Flag
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could we please hear more about the situation? perhaps OP's dc is bugging the kid, mocking him or something else. perhaps the school has intervened, and both kids just aren't able to get along. they may be best friends one day. op has to keep her cool. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:12 PM Flag
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op: i don;'t think DS is bugging the otjer kid. The other kid is just made that way. He pushed one of the other DS's in the class down the stairs. He also has pushed over some of the little girls in the class. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:14 PM Flag
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Sounds like this boy needs to be evaluated for a behavioral disorder [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:33 PM Flag
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if you are taljking about my ds, let me just say that I have talked with the counselors and others at the camp. your dc does provoke my dc, btw. he is especially competetive it seems, and whenever he doesn't win or get his way, he bursts into tears and starts yelling at my kid. My dc is a nervous wreck around him, and has been acting out. We are trying to teach him how to deal with overly sensitive kids who can't stand loosing or if others don't see things their way. You need to teach you dc not to go ballistic everytime he is upset. it sets kids like mine on edge. there are always two sides to every story. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 06:27 PM Flag
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^^^losing [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 06:28 PM Flag
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Sounds like these two children should be seperated. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 06:52 PM Flag
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agree. seems like a no brainer, especially if they attend the school, as well. at least for the upcoming year. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 08:32 PM Flag
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sound like a similar situation in my ds camp. wonder if it's the same kid? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 01:02 PM Flag
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How do you tell your DS to deal with the kid? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 01:13 PM Flag
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Weve told him to tell the teacher or other counselors, tell the other boy to stop, move away from him. Not much has worked. Nothing has worked. My ds was getting really frustrated and acting out. Now he's sort of accepting it which disturbs me also. I guess these seem to always get their way. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 01:58 PM Flag
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^^ I guess these kinds of kids always get their way [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 01:59 PM Flag
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when you say your kid is acting out, what is he doing? Is he aggressive as well? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 06:28 PM Flag
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he was, but now he's just taking it and getting really down about camp. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 06:37 PM Flag
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when does camp end? maybe pull him early if he is that unhappy. camp should be fun. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 06:48 PM Flag
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imagine if it was your son shouting and pinching. dont' make a big deal it may pass. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 02:00 PM Flag
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NP and if I found out my son was shouting and pinching, I would be concerned and try to do something about it! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 07:53 PM Flag
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yes, but this poster and the one from the other night seem overly concerned. ds is at a camp where a girl is bothering him. she throws his stuff on the floor yelling "put it away now" if he is slow to transition, etc. I have a tough kid, but he was sort of taken aback by this and demoralized because he knows we don't put up with his acting out. the counselor had them play some games together and that helped. then she was out sick. he told me she is back and he stays far away from her. I asked him if he tried to be friends and he responded "she'll think I'm weak, and then really be mean" 6 yo btw. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 08:03 PM Flag
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lol! smart kid! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 08:14 PM Flag
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np: high social IQ. OP could learn a thing or two from your ds! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 08:24 PM Flag
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betcha anything the boy who hits/pinches has issues or trouble in his family life. I have a long story to back that up- just witnessed it at a bday party- and there was a very sad story behind the child's behavior. That said, it doesn't make what he's doing right. If I were you I'd steer my child away from that kid. Request a diff teacher if you must in the future. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 02:01 PM Flag
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you again? didn't we answer your questions yesterday? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 05:54 PM Flag
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the kid may not be able to help himself. work with your son on how to avoid interactions with the problem kid and give him phrases to use if the kid starts to act up. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 06:07 PM Flag
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her kid is acting out also. if its the poster from before. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 06:32 PM Flag
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np:I posted about a similar situation, but I'm not the op here. Either it's the same boy or there are two out there. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 06:35 PM Flag
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poster above says her kid is being provoked by a kid who cries and makes a fuss when he doesn't get his way. stresses her kid out. is that yours? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 06:43 PM Flag
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no, but my ds is in camp with a boy who provokes (hits, kicks and name calls) and then cries or makes a fuss when he doesn't get his way. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 06:46 PM Flag
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and what does ds do? what has the camp told you? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 08:09 PM Flag
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OP here: My main concern is that my DS doesn't resign himself to being on the receiving end of stuff like this. We tell him all the time that it is the other kid's issue, but how much can a 5 year old really understand? I have seen plenty of adults who still haven't got their heads around stuff like this. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:47 AM Flag
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or: here's the issue I've been dealing with for the past couple of weeks of camp. There is a child frustrating my ds. For the first week or so my ds complained, behavior did not stop. Then ds started acting out, we disciplined and not ds's acting out has stopped, but the other child is still frustrating ds. He is now just taking it. In reality, there is not much he or I can do. The camp counselor can tell the other child to stop, but he does not. If my ds acts out, he gets disciplined. He's developing a sense of powerlessness which is typical when a child must deal with another child who is constantly difficult. Now, I am telling my ds to stay away from this child and if he does anything to him that he doesn’t like tell him to stop or go tell a counselor, that they are kids like this in the world that he is going to have to learn how to deal with, don't allow this child to get him into trouble, that the end of camp is near and we will be looking for another camp for next year so he doesn’t have to deal with this child again. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:12 AM Flag
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con't-to stay away from this child and if he does anything to you that you don’t like, tell him to stop, go tell a counselor, that they are kids like this in the world, he is going to have to learn how to deal with them, not allow them to get him into trouble, that the end of camp is near and we will be looking for another camp for next year so he doesn’t have to deal with this child again. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:13 AM Flag
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OP: thanks. it's very frustrating, isn't it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:26 AM Flag
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yes it is! have you thought about how you are going to handle school this year? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 03:55 PM Flag
[ - ] Some advice please. My DS goes to school and now summer camp with another male child who shouts at and occasionally hits and pinches my DS. We have encouraged DS to stand up for himself and complained to the school but the other kids behavior continues. WWYD? 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:29 AM Flag
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If you know who the kid is, have complained to the school (and they've done nothing), then I would go straight to the parents. I'd also go to the school again and again, until they did do something. I'd also tell my kid to not play with this socially immature little jerk. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:45 AM Flag
[ - ] Help! I need a fun game to play at a girls only 30th birthday party tonight. Idea? 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:25 AM Flag
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its called, let's do shots of patron! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:35 AM Flag
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strip poker [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:35 AM Flag
[ - ] Some advice please. My DS has a very gentle nature. He is stuck in school and now summer camp with another male child who constantly yells at my DS and occasionally hits and pinches him. I have encouraged my DS to stick up for himself, and complained many times to the school, but the other kid's behavior continues. WWYD? TIA. 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:25 AM Flag
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How old are the kids? My oldest is 6 and there was a boy in his kinder class who was kind of a problem--youngest kid in the class but also the biggest. DS complained a lot about him--being rough, saying mean things. I talked to him about it before bed, role-played scenarios, gave him some ideas of how to respond and talked about what he could do. I know from a few other parents that DS wasn't the only one w/ an issue w/ this kid (and on a side note--the mom is the most helicoptery parent I have ever seen--freakin' unbelievable). But I also think that this stuff is going to happen and kids ultimately have to manage these relationships w/o a lot of help. I do what I can at home to prepare him but then he needs to work it out. It wasn't extreme bullying--if that were the case, then I might intervene. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:29 AM Flag
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I don't know. Can you say anything to the child or his parents? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:31 AM Flag
[ - ] What did you watch (if anything) while in labor? I'm thinking something very distracting, like Die Hard 2; my DH is thinking the John Adams miniseries (which we have already seen) and is horrified by my suggestion of a violent film. I read the New Yorker and am an appellate lawyer - it's not like this is what we'll be showing to the baby - but really, do you think it's bad karma? 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:23 AM Flag
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How about Spiderman. Something with a good superhero. :) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:34 AM Flag
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I listened to music during labor, I think for me I wanted to focus on what was going on and would have been annoyed/distracted by a film. I brought a small radio and collection of cds and really appreciate it. (Also handled a couple of work calls -- I'm a lawyer too.) Good luck to you! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:37 AM Flag
[ - ] My 3 yo ds has been day potty trained since 2.5. He ONLY poops when he wears a diaper for nap and at night. I'm getting so frustrated. He told me he likes to go in his diaper. I just am not sure what I should be doing??? He will sit forever on the potty, but nothing ever comes out. Trying to stay calm... 8 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:09 AM Flag
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in the same boat with my 3 y/o dd. although she'll now wear a pull up ON the potty to poop. baby steps, deep breaths. they'll get there eventually. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:12 AM Flag
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op: so true, that's what i keep telling myself...deep breaths! i've logged so many hours sitting by that damn potty with no result! interesting about the pull up on the potty... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:14 AM Flag
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I was going to suggest just that....let them use a Pull-up on the potty. I would bring them to the potty right after a meal too to just sit a while and see if one pops out by surprise. Do you have the book Everybody Poops? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:15 AM Flag
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I've heard that emptying the poop from the diaper into the toilet and getting them to flush it away can help to get them over fear that they might have. GL [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:14 AM Flag
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he will continue to poop in the diaper as long as you put one on! time to take that diaper away, I know it sucks but that maybe the only way [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:17 AM Flag
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I don't know. I tried that and she just held it. Made her horribly constipated and set off a whole new round of new issues. I wouldn't go that way unless you had to. And at 3y/o, you're not yet to a "have to" place yet. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:19 AM Flag
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Don't push him and he will do it when he's ready. I know from experience! My trained himself by 3.5 but it was hell before then. If you push he may try to withhold which is what happened to us. I wish I had known that he would do it when he was ready. I would not have stressed so much. GL! He will be potty trained before you know it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:20 AM Flag
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op: thank you all for all of your help! we do have 'Everybody Poops' which is great. i'll just keep at it... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:54 AM Flag
[ - ] Our part time (14 hr/wk) sitter will be living with us for 2 weeks while she waits for her college dorm to open. We'll be doing her a favor by letting her stay with us but she'll also be around much of the time to help with 2 toddlers. How should I compensate her for her time...just offer her food? But I don't cook much that's edible so I feel like I should pay a bit. How much? She usually gets $14 an hour. Thanks so much! 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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New York City 07.24.08, 11:03 AM Flag
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I'd pay her her $14/hr for the 14 hours she usually works and pay her if you go out in the evening.....ask her if she feels that is 'fair' and that in exchange for you providing a place for her to stay you would appreciate her helping out an extra hour here and there if she around. I think expecting her to sit for free because she is living with you is asking too much. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:32 PM Flag
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thank you so much -- this really helps. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:38 PM Flag
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:02 AM Flag
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Astor, Rockefeller, Vanderbilt, Carnegie? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:08 AM Flag
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