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[ - ] Wait a minute. i really don't understand. a woman telling her own daughter to ask for a turn on the swing is overbearing? or did i miss something about that post? 43 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:15 PM Flag
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I know. That whole post was ridiculous. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:18 PM Flag
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here in da bronx you all would be laughed out of the park [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:19 PM Flag
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manhattan too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:20 PM Flag
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oh there are some normal people over there? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:21 PM Flag
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oh good lord. are you miss-i'm-so-tough-i-live-uptown mom? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:21 PM Flag
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yes i live in the real world. go away yuppie [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:24 PM Flag
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really don't think it's a class issue. lots of non-yuppies know how to share. it's really puzzling to me why you've chosen to become a champion for selfishness. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:27 PM Flag
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come on up to the bronx before you make that statement. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:28 PM Flag
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lol. you probably live on the UES and have an IB dh. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:31 PM Flag
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nope pelham bay 40 years [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:32 PM Flag
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right. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:33 PM Flag
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that's right, we can form sentences up here. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:34 PM Flag
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np: Well, that's not a terrible neighborhood, kind of silly to adopt this faux gangsta attitude. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:46 PM Flag
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its not about selfishness. its about pushiness. pushy pushy moms. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:59 PM Flag
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Apparently the OP (and several other responders) believe that it's just fine to stay on a swing for an unlimited amount of time even when others are waiting - and that those who believe otherwise are "entitled". A little pot/kettle, imho. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:24 PM Flag
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that's right!!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:25 PM Flag
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I am the OP from the swing post and I specifically wrote that the child swinging was NOT on for an excessively long time. So, there was no reason the child could not continue to wait. There is a big diff. The child swinging was just doing what you are supposed to be doing on a swing. Not abusing it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:28 PM Flag
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You might have written that in one of your responses, but it was not part of your original post. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:31 PM Flag
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I didn't realize that I had to state every piece of info in the opening post. So, for the record, the child was not on the swing forever. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:36 PM Flag
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what bothers me is that they think asking is the same as demanding. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:31 PM Flag
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ittta. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:32 PM Flag
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yep [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:36 PM Flag
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i can only think of two explanations. either they think that engaging other kids in the park is wrong (that old big city don't-talk-to-anyone idea). i can't remember the other explanation [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:42 PM Flag
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Yes, it's overbearing to ask because you should have manners and just wait. Do you just cut to the front of the line at the store because you want to? Same thing with the park. You teach your kid patience and it will go a long way. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:25 PM Flag
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It's NOT the same thing, and - if you can't see that - you're a little dense. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:26 PM Flag
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maybe so, but my kid won't get off the swing until he's go and ready! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:27 PM Flag
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NP: Listen I would agree with you if it were anywhere but Central Park. There are 100s of children in and out all day and honestly, there has NEVER been an unavailable swing. So if a little girl is waiting for a very specific swing, it would make a whole lot more sense for her mom to tell her to wait patiently, or to get her over that weird swing fetish. We have tons of available swings..thats why it is so weird. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:29 PM Flag
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yep! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:30 PM Flag
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The OP was clear that all of the other swings were also occupied at the time. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:30 PM Flag
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so what? then ask everybody. bring a loudspeaker and make announcements [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:31 PM Flag
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But again, in Central Park, this little girl will have a very hard time if she always needs one particular swing. A better lesson for her would be that sharing in Central Park means trying out all sorts of new swings and swingsets because if every child wanted a turn on one swing, the city would fall apart...No really. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:32 PM Flag
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for me, the issue isn't what's reasonable for this child to want. the question was whether or not the other mom was being overbearing and if asking is the same as demanding. and i think the answer to both is no. why would you think the answer is yes? and secondly, just b/c someone is asking does not mean your child has to say yes. even if it was a demand, your dc does not have to listen to some other kid's demands. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:39 PM Flag
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...and that the kid in question had not been on the swing long. This is absurd. -np [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:35 PM Flag
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np: So you are teaching your child to be selfish. Great. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:34 PM Flag
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and your kid goes around begging other to take the swing? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:36 PM Flag
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No. My point was, I teach my child that if he's been on the swing for 5 minutes and someone is waiting TO GET OFF AND SHARE. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:43 PM Flag
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You can't be serious. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:28 PM Flag
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see, that's what scares me. they are being serious. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:34 PM Flag
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asking is not the same as cutting to the front of the line. don't you teach your child to ask for things? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:32 PM Flag
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Would you consider my answer, "When we are done." rude? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:46 PM Flag
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of course. just b/c i ask doesn't mean your turn has to be up right now. (although it would depend on your tone as well) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:57 PM Flag
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I haven't noticed in any of this a discussion of how lone the kid was waiting before askind/how long the line is. I'm reserving judgement. -nnp [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:59 PM Flag
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i don't think it's really relevant. for two reasons. if the kid walked up and found someone on the swing, she has no idea how long the swinger has been swinging. and secondly, there is nothing wrong with asking. teach your children to take their turns and then share, adn then this whole thing wouldn't even be an issue. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 02:21 PM Flag
[ - ] Did anyone ever get old videos (home or whatever) converted into DVD format? I just had a couple done and they seem a bit grainy. I don't know what to expect. I figure I won't get that clear DVD image, since it's converted from an older format, but still, it seems a bit too fuzzy. 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:11 PM Flag
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my mom did this with all our home videos from our childhood and they are nice and clear. They were from the little tapes, not big VHS tapes though. she had a guy do it and he edited them and everything, added music to the sports montages, etc. some of its kind of cheesy, but we all appreciate having those memories preserved in a way we can actually watch. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:29 PM Flag
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You can do this VERY easily yourself with a VHS DVD recorder for under 100 dollars, I bought one at target, you insert VHS and a blank DVD hit DUB button, when its done you Hit Finalize, voila. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 02:08 PM Flag
[ - ] for those with 4 - 6 week olds do they have any sort of recognizable sleep / eat pattern? 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:11 PM Flag
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I have a 14mo, but can tell you from experience that they don't. They sleep and eat a lot...if you're bf'ing, they eat about every 2 hours (from start to start) and sleep about the same. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:15 PM Flag
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they start to a little more around 6 weeks, but not really that much til 3 months or so. I like Weissbluth's book btw and it will tell you common patterns for different ages. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:23 PM Flag
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mine ate all the time and slept when she wasnt' eating. that's about all the pattern that was evident for the first 6 wks. hang in there. it gets easier. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:25 PM Flag
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thanks everyone. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 06:27 PM Flag
[ - ] to the parent with the ADD 5 yo - Yes, teach him to read. Parents who tell you not to teach your child to read are invariably parents who did not teach their children to read. My mother taught me to read at 4, and I taught my child at 3 and a half. It was a huge advantage for him. He loved reading; became a great reader; entered school with great confidence; was immune to any instructional deficiencies of his teachers or curriculum; developed writing skills early, also; has a great vocabulary; never got as hooked on video games as other children; and impressed his teachers from the beginning, which is helpful in school. If your child is ready to learn - and he sounds like he is - you should ABSOLUTELY teach him to read. Especially since he's ADD, anything you can do to give him a head start, is smart, responsible parenting. I prefer phonics to Teach Your Baby system, which seems to me to work better with babies than preschool kids. But you could also do both. 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 06.02.08, 01:10 PM Flag
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NP: I like you. You should read the earlier post where _all_ of these parents were telling this poor woman not to teach her toddler to read. Ridiculous. I learned at 4 in preschool. They were claiming you might teach your child the wrong way and screw them up. Can you imagine if I told my 9 month old to wait to walk.. nutso.. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:25 PM Flag
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np: I don't think I could teach my kids incorrectly. I just think it's not important to teach them this. We read a ton together, my DH is a novelist so it's clear we think reading is important - but I'm not going to be drilling letter sounds or using flashcards like that kit mentioned in the previous post. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:27 PM Flag
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It would be silly to try to make your child walk before they are develpmentally ready to walk. (nnp) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 02:39 PM Flag
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I might have been the OP of that post. I started one about the Teach your baby to read book - BUT I said it was not for a toddler. It was for a five/six year old. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 03:54 PM Flag
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np. I was one of the posters there arguing against using it, but only because I think it's a bad program for any age. If your ds is interested in learning to read I don't see why you shouldn't try to help him. But there are better programs. Explode the Code is good and used by a lot of schools. There are fun web sites, like Starfall, though that might be too young for some 5 or 6 yos. But check it out in case. There are computer programs, like Reader Rabbit and Leapster games. Talk to his teachers abd see what they say. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 04:51 PM Flag
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How did you teach your 3.5 yo to read? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 02:50 PM Flag
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NP -- my dd was reading pretty well at 3.5 too. she was always into letters and how to spell (which is amusing in retrospect, because at 7 years old, she is not what i would call a great speller; she is however an excellent writer). she could identify all the uppercase letters by just over a year -- it was pretty amazing. so we didn't really teach her to read -- she would ask tons of questions about letter sounds and what signs said and how to spell certain words. it kind of just all came together for her gradually. but she was very, very young when she started asking questions (she talked really young too), so the "learning" process took about a year. no instruction per se -- just interest and obvious aptitude. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:20 AM Flag
[ - ] I love the swing post. Classic UB. 0 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:09 PM Flag
[ - ] we are fighting about swings now? 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:08 PM Flag
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not the kids the moms [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:09 PM Flag
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True. The kid was doing fine, the mother had the issue. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:14 PM Flag
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the mother was teaching her dd how to ask for what she wants. wow, what a bad mother. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:19 PM Flag
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yup she's doesn't let her kid learn to be an independent thinker. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:20 PM Flag
[ - ] Here are some names we're considering for our daughter due this summer. Which do you prefer: Veronica, Serena, Clare, Clara, Adelaide, Elena 10 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:04 PM Flag
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I looooove Serena. What is last name? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:05 PM Flag
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:06 PM Flag
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lol [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:07 PM Flag
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Adelaide too old sounding [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:07 PM Flag
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ooh. i love adelaide. call her Addy so cute. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:08 PM Flag
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Don't like the last letter of first name to be same as first letter of last. Like Clara Anderson. Too hard to say. Love Serena Anderson. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:08 PM Flag
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It's the same thing, though...last name starts with last letter of first name. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:16 PM Flag
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Just sounds better though [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:21 PM Flag
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claire, elena, adele [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:15 PM Flag
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Serena, Clara and maybe Elena. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:21 PM Flag
[ - ] Best one or two syllable girls name you've heard in awhile. Looking for suggestions. Would prefer it doesn't end in a y, i, ie, 15 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Expecting 06.02.08, 01:02 PM Flag
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Sue [ Reply | More
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Rain [ Reply | More
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rayne [ Reply | More
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Cate [ Reply | More
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Tatum, Clara [ Reply | More
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LOL didn't Tatum On'Neil get busted for attempting to buy crack yesterday on the UES---said she was researching a role! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:09 PM Flag
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she's been researching that one for a while now [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:09 PM Flag
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and Clara ends in an "a" [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:09 PM Flag
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so? she said no y, i, ie [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:12 PM Flag
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I understood "a" to be part of the list [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:18 PM Flag
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Mabel [ Reply | More
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Lila, Paige [ Reply | More
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Alice [ Reply | More
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Kyra/Kiera/Kira Sarah, Talia [ Reply | More
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Charlotte, Odette, Adele, Marie, Niamh, Saoirse, Kathryn, Renee, Bailey, [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:34 PM Flag
[ - ] dd is 2.5 and seriously has a smattering of hair (basically her scalp is covered but there is no legnth and barely any hair). I am growing concered. 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 12:59 PM Flag
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are you hairy scary? if not, relax! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:02 PM Flag
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talk to your pediatrician. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:10 PM Flag
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dd was like that. she now has long, thick, lovely hair. One of her best assets [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:21 PM Flag
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when sis she start sprouting? did she really have almost no hair? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:49 PM Flag
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I don't think I gave her a haircut before she was 4 or 5, and then it was only her bangs [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:58 PM Flag
[ - ] HEY YOU STUPID INDUCTION POSTER! IF YOU ARE GOING TO POST SOMETHING THREE TIMES, AT LEAST TAKE ANOTHER SECOND TO THANK THE PEOPLE WHO RESPONDED TO YOU!!!! 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 12:57 PM Flag
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General Topics 06.02.08, 12:58 PM Flag
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bless you kind soul [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 12:58 PM Flag
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i used up all the kindness in my soul by answering posts where someone seems desperate for information but not desperate enough to hang around to respond to answers. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:05 PM Flag
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maybe she went into labor [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:12 PM Flag
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lol. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:15 PM Flag
[ - ] can't explain why, but i hate the feeling of knees touching when i sleep on my side. always have to put a pillow between my knees when i sleep on my side. 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 12:57 PM Flag
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noted [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 12:57 PM Flag
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the pillow is a good thing - it helps your spine stay aligned. they actually sell pillows just for this purpose. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 12:58 PM Flag
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I've just started realizing that I don't like this either. I never noticed until a couple of months ago. Strange. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 12:58 PM Flag
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its such a gross sensation to me. go figure. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:00 PM Flag
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me too! I have to wear pajama pants, to lessen the annoyingness [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:00 PM Flag
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I do that religiously, and helped all thru pregnancy too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:01 PM Flag
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me three! I have to have the blanket between my legs. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:11 PM Flag
[ - ] I have started to jogging and go to the park 3days a week for a mile run/walk. should i do 30min elliptical on these days or too much? 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 12:56 PM Flag
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do something different - like weights or yoga to mix it up [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:04 PM Flag
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yes. and try to get your run/walk to 30 minutes at a min.. since thats when you start to get all the benefit. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:05 PM Flag
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do weights instead [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:14 PM Flag
[ - ] my friend has invited me over for a week to her summer house. it will be just the women with dcs,no dhs. I am missing dh already!. we haven't spent more than a day apart yet! 10 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 12:55 PM Flag
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that's sweet. how long married? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 12:56 PM Flag
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10 yrs married and always together really. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 12:58 PM Flag
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What did you bring, I was invited in similar and want to bring hostess gift [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 02:09 PM Flag
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I'll take your spot at the summer house if you don't want it [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 12:56 PM Flag
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yuck. not for me [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 12:57 PM Flag
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A week is too long. I would go for the weekend [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:00 PM Flag
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No way could I do that. DH is the only person on earth that I can share space with and not get sick of by the fourth day. Love my friends, but not in close quarters for days on end. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 01:04 PM Flag
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I would spend a week with anyone except DH and or his family [ Reply | More
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:0 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.08, 02:10 PM Flag
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Alex - is that you? [ Reply | More
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