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[ - ] I'm the Roosevelt Island poster from before and just logged back on. I have made the trip to Anderson three times now on public transportation (Open House, OLSAT test, Tour); once with dc and twice w/o and each time it took less than 40 minutes (F 3 stops, D 2 stops, then the 1). ALSO the DOE provides busing from the tram stop. 22 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 06.03.08, 07:46 PM Flag
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why don't you just move close to Anderson or even SW Harlem where there is some great housing? seems awful to put a child through all that. they are so darn young!!!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:49 PM Flag
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OP: I had to commute from downtown to UES for school as a child. It is not a big deal if your kid is used to subway rides. Really. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:53 PM Flag
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horrendous. the subway is a stinking, stagnant germ fest and so many parents are selfish. you are in NYC because YOU want to be, not because it's better for your child. better to at least move closer to the school [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:55 PM Flag
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I was born and raised here - rode the subway my whole life. Commuted from K-12. I am healthy, love NYC and could not imagine living anywhere else. I want my dc to have the same experiences I did growing up. Why do you live here if you are so afraid? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:57 PM Flag
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np: Yikes, calm down. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:58 PM Flag
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np. lol Not all of our dc are delicate little flowers who can't endure a couple of daily subway rides. Keep on hothousing your dc and s/he'll turn out a neurotic, prissy little twit just like mom. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:04 PM Flag
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helpful post... good to see women treating each other with respect... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 07:11 AM Flag
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you post this to the np not to the "horrendous" post? Are you insane or are you the "horrendous" poster? -nnp [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 02:40 PM Flag
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Busing from the trap stop sounds doable. I'd try it out and then reevaluate your options (moving house, moving school) later on. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:51 PM Flag
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honestly, who cares? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:53 PM Flag
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OP: Well, I was flamed for saying we would commute, but I was not around to defend myself. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:54 PM Flag
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door to door? during rush hour? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:54 PM Flag
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Yes. Yes. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:55 PM Flag
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of course not. she is lying. at any rate, even with her calculations, her kid is in for an hour and 20 minutes of commute daily. I would say 2 hrs personally, but either way, it is just not worth it for elementary school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:28 PM Flag
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another RIer here who's done her share of commuting to Anderson. OP is right. It is a smooth and short ride. I usually stay on the D all the way to 86th Street and walk the few blocks, though. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 07:08 AM Flag
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the D doesn't go there. you must change trains at some point [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 08:59 AM Flag
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No fair. They don't offer a bus from the subway to NEST. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:19 PM Flag
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they have to ride a friggin tram, OK? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:28 PM Flag
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so, it sounds faster than the subway. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:40 PM Flag
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np. My dc wants to move to RI specifically so she can ride the tram to get to school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:43 PM Flag
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I don't know. I used to live in those Manhattan apt. complexes on RI. Leave my apt and walk to the subway - 10 min, including elevator, walk and getting down to the subway. Wait for F and get to 42nd St., 25 min total. Walk 2 blocks to work, 5 min. Total was 40 min at the very least. I always knew when Monica Pergeman came on to do the business report on NY1 at 8:17 that if I didn't leave at that minute exactly, I would be late for work. Can't imagine that a tranfer to the D and walk to the school would fit within 40 min, but hey, we're considering a 45 min. commute to NEST, so I don't blame you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 07:34 AM Flag
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You did the open house and the tour? You weren't supposed to do the tour if you had already seen the school. Cheater! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 08:45 AM Flag
[ - ] Mirena users help! I can't find my string. How bad is this? 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:45 PM Flag
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I have never looked for my string. Why do you need to find it? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:47 PM Flag
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I think you're supposed to check once a month to make sure the IUD hasn't moved [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:48 PM Flag
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No, youre not. My dr checked it once about a month after insertion, once it settles, it doesnt need to be checked after that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:52 PM Flag
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that's not what it says in the little information booklet I got. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:56 PM Flag
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Ok, then go to dr, and they'll tell you its no big deal. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:57 PM Flag
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well, i was planning to call the doctor in the morning. i was just wondering if anyone here had this happen. My co-worker had hers perforate her uterus and had to have it surgically removed, so I [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:02 PM Flag
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I had one put in back in November and never felt the string. Finally got around to heading back to doctor to check it out and she couldn't feel string either - but when they did an ultrasound(same day) - there it was in the perfect spot. Best idea is to go back to doctor to confirm its all okay. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 08:33 AM Flag
[ - ] 22 mo ds seems to have his first diaper rash ever, poor guy. I smeared triple paste all over it and hopefully it will go away, but I noticed the rash itself kind of smelled. Does taht mean it's yeast and if so, will the triple paste help? 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:44 PM Flag
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don't overchemical him. best thing is to let him run around without a diaper and if he piddles on the floor, so be it. he needs fresh air for that to heal [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:45 PM Flag
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Will do tomorrow. I only saw it right before bed though. It looked really angry. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:45 PM Flag
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Try to let him air dry as much as possible. 10 minutes will do wonders. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:45 PM Flag
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thanks -will do tomorrow. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:46 PM Flag
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agree. bare butt tomorrow as much as possible. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:47 PM Flag
[ - ] She is a petulant child. 0 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:43 PM Flag
[ - ] How presumptive to assume he has secured it. 12 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:41 PM Flag
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Uh, he got the required number of delegates. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:41 PM Flag
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It's not presumptuous. It's just math. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:42 PM Flag
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he secured it but he will not necessarily get the nomination. folks, this goes up to the Convention! remmber that the popular vote reflects many women's votes as well as white male blue collar voters for Hillary -- whereas many Democratic superdelegates are old school white men who could switch over to Hillary in the next 30 --- this is going to be a GREAT race [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:44 PM Flag
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The race is over. The finish line was crossed today. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:44 PM Flag
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just saying it is over doesn't make it over. you must be a slow learner. They've been saying it's over for so long it's ridiculous. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:49 PM Flag
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it is NOT over [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:50 PM Flag
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FUCK you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:51 PM Flag
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: ) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:55 PM Flag
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Saying its not over, doesnt mean its not over. YOu can argue and whine and say 'not fair' all you want, its pencils down. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:53 PM Flag
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If she tries to drag it to the convention she will lose the election for the democrats. She is a smart woman, hopefully she doesn't let her ego get in the way of her intelligence and does the right thing and officially concedes this week. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:53 PM Flag
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np: Loved her speech tonight - the crazy parts and all. Did it sound like she was done? Didn't to me. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:54 PM Flag
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She's doing the right thing. She is a smart woman. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:56 PM Flag
[ - ] dh here, I need some dw opinions. Do you ever wonder what you are missing out on by being married? I do, not that I don't love my family, but I often wonder what else is out there, who else I could be with, etc. I'm unsatisfied, I guess, and I'm wondering if everyone feels this way or if it's just me. thanks. 36 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 06.03.08, 07:39 PM Flag
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it's just you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:39 PM Flag
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Personally, no. I dated plenty and I know what being single and dating is all about. I'm much happier married. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:40 PM Flag
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^^but I seriously doubt it's just you [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:40 PM Flag
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ONe of the reasons I would never have marrie dyougn...I know what is out there and sowed my wild oats. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:40 PM Flag
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It's not just you. But people like you are so freaking tiresome. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:40 PM Flag
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op: why? I think more people feel the way I do than don't feel this way. We force ourselves into this conventionality, but the truth is, we aren't really happy. We just ignore the idea that there could be someone better so we don't have to face it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:44 PM Flag
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God, you are just insufferable. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:45 PM Flag
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op: you are repressed [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:46 PM Flag
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np: You are a faker. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:47 PM Flag
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No, I'm not. You are trying to build some stupid sociological argument for YOUR mistakes, YOUR bad choices, or perhaps just YOUR general asshole dissatisfaction. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:47 PM Flag
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I think you are a little harsh on op. But I agree, don't generalize and say "we" all feel a certain way b/c it's not true [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:49 PM Flag
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He so deserves it. He can't stand up for his own feelings, is looking for validation so he can justify what he wants to do. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:51 PM Flag
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I agree w/ you [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:52 PM Flag
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Actually, you're a dog. NP by the way. Stop fantasizing and get real. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:48 PM Flag
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if there is someone better why did you marry your dw? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:46 PM Flag
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The grass could always be greener. It could be browner too. As long as you've got a decent patch of grass cultivate that. Fully commit yourself to the life you have. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:46 PM Flag
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op: but what if my "soul mate" (lame expression) is still out there? why should I live a life of quiet desperation when I could be happier? Wouldn't it be better in the long run for my kids? everyone's always telling dw's that sort of thing. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:47 PM Flag
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No they aren't. Be a father and a husband. That is what you chose. Stop chasing rainbows. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:48 PM Flag
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Work that out with a therapist, you child. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:49 PM Flag
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No one is always telling women this. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:49 PM Flag
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YOU aren't really happy. There's no we here. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:47 PM Flag
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why did you get married...Iwaited until I found some one "better." There is no socail convention that is so strong that it requires marriage from a man, especially, in this day and age. I think you are just looking for a justification for being a dick. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:47 PM Flag
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I don't feel that way, but I'm sure it is common. It's not that I don't think I could possibly be living some other more exciting fulfilling life. But I could also be living some pathetic or tragic one. And the current one is loving, steady, happy. So I just enjoy what I've got. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:41 PM Flag
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i sometimes think about what life would've been like without dh and dcs. but i can never picture myself (and don't even wonder about) me being with someone else. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:41 PM Flag
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No. started dating at 16 and married at 31 so I saw what was out there. I appreciate my dh and happily married. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:42 PM Flag
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did you get married young? I would not go back to being single for anything in the world. Yes I traveled, partied, went out, etc. but it wasn't half as exciting as people think. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:43 PM Flag
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op: I was 28. Dw and I dated for 8 years. I also felt this way before with her, which is probably a bad thing in retrospect, maybe we shouldn't have gotten married. I love my family, though, can't stand the thought of losing them. Is that enough to stay in a relationship that doesn't satisfy me? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:46 PM Flag
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np: if you have children yes you shold stay and go to counseling and make it work [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:47 PM Flag
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op: what is the point of counselling, everyone says that but I don't see it. What's that going to prove? I'm unhappy? I'm a 'dick'? I don't ssee why I should put myself/us through it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:49 PM Flag
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So do her a favor and leave. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:50 PM Flag
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If you have all the answers and know yourself so well, you wouldn't be asking us these questions. That's what therapy is for--to figure out what you want and why you feel and behave the way you do. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:50 PM Flag
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Then just leave. Some people believe in commitment and family and all that and they try to work things out. Counseling might help you understand why you feel the way you do and give you some insight into yourself. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:51 PM Flag
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you have to try it - you owe that to your family. You just want the easy way out [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:51 PM Flag
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You need to talk to a marriage counselor. DO NOT cheat on your wife. Work it out or leave. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:48 PM Flag
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when did you get married/have kids? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:43 PM Flag
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I rarely think about who else I might be with, but I do get dissatisfied sometimes. I think more about the dreams I have that won't come true because of the choices I've made. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:51 PM Flag
[ - ] beyond exhausted, but WHERE on craigslist do you search for a nanny? I thought there would be a specific box for childcare. Am I just too tired to see it? 15 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:38 PM Flag
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it's there. i think it's under community. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:39 PM Flag
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bless you! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:42 PM Flag
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it's under community. What are you looking for? I've posted an ad there for my nanny (we're moving) and havent gotten a lot of hits [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:41 PM Flag
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50 hrs a wk for 1 dc, nearly 4 yrs old. When are you moving? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:45 PM Flag
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LOL, I think I emailed with you last night. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:49 PM Flag
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I did email you, if you are greatnanny, but I never saw a response from you. Did you send one? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:52 PM Flag
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I did!! I wrote back last night and gave my and her cell numbers [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:55 PM Flag
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I did not get it. I will try again right now. Thanks [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:57 PM Flag
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let me know if it's not there. I just checked my sent messages and I def wrote back last night [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:58 PM Flag
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to EXCITE, right? It may have got caught in spam. Sorry. I just emailed again. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:00 PM Flag
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I just hit reply. I'm going to resend it now. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:01 PM Flag
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very strange. Still not in my inbox. If I don't receive it in a few minute, I will try from another email account. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:08 PM Flag
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I"ve emailed you from a hotmail account. Hopefully your response will come thru. I'm going to bed now. Thanks [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:25 PM Flag
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how much do you pay your nanny for 50hr a week? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:50 PM Flag
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660 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 09:46 AM Flag
[ - ] So "friend" asked my sitter to work for her today. Grrrr. 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:36 PM Flag
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pt or steal her? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:40 PM Flag
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that stinks. is the sitter full tiem or not? and how did your friend get your sitter's number? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:00 PM Flag
[ - ] those of you going crazy debating the ins and outs of nest vs anderson etc-- how much of a difference do you really think this will make in your child's life? do you really think one vs the other will really alter your kid's life that you are obsessing over this? 27 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:36 PM Flag
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I interview kids in top private and public high schools -- that is where the differences shine through as well as city kids vs. top-ranked suburban schools such as Bronxville, Scarsdale, Great Neck, Roslyn, Maplewood, etc. There is NO difference between Anderson and NEST other than teacher: student ration and the QUALITY of parents. It's really the PARENTS who drive the values, ambitions, additional financial resources, planning/PTA etc -- and this comes through in top public high schools as well. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:42 PM Flag
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so funny. thats what i always say. i went to a private school in bklyn with ZERO admission tests (my kids go too). 100% of the graduates go to college and at least 25% to ivies. the kids are always a great blend of average to genius--the only common factors is they all come from good families with good values. that's the only key to success in education that i see [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:45 PM Flag
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BINGO. it's about the money. If you're a successful adult who went to an Ivy League school or top schools as well as graduate schools as did your grandparents and parents (as is the situation in my case) -- or if you are a first generation Korean-American family and your parents place Education as #1 priority, then you can rest assured that the kids pick up these goals, ambitions, opportunities for top internships, international travel projects, etc. from involved parents. This is also why kids in the Bronx are not going to be part of the economic success story unless they are an exception --- they simply don't have the home life including financial resources (good schools, music lessons, quality sleepaway camps) to get ahead with programs such as PrepForPrep being the obvious exceptions [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:48 PM Flag
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no, i really dont think it was about money. plenty of poor kids in my class. for most of us, our grandparents were holocaust survivors who never had any formal education. some of us had parents who went to college, many didnt. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:07 PM Flag
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but Jews in NY focus on education for the most part [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:16 PM Flag
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absolutely. i'm just saying that i cant imagine it really makes a big difference-- all of these top rated ps and privates likely have a similarly motivated parent body . i just cant understand how these small differences amount to anything. just send your kid where it's convenient and where they will have friends in the neighborhood. that's what makes kids happy and successful. not the amount of languages offered. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:18 PM Flag
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Weak argument! Then parents should send their kids to a failing school in Harlem (of which there are many) because a single mom can't afford to live on the UWS close to Anderson? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:20 PM Flag
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i said once it comes down to the top rated schools being debated here 24/7, then it only makes sense to me to consider convenience and social factors. obviously i dont mean to say all ps are equal. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:22 PM Flag
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please, not the jewish poverty story again! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:29 PM Flag
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which school in bklyn? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:50 PM Flag
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a yeshiva [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:06 PM Flag
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The men stay in the same industries, passing down jobs and the woman are traditional, not really amounting to much beyond the household. I find that so sad (mostly for the women, forced to stay in bad marriages and not many options for themselves in terms of exploring their dreams beyond the staunch constraints of this particular Jewish culture) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:17 PM Flag
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very much not the case. in my hs class of 100 (all girls), 5 went to med school, about 10 law school, the rest assorted professions of every type. the stereotypes you are talking about really only exist today in chassidic communities. all my friends who want to work go to work in whatever field they chose. those that want to sah do so also (though all have at least college degrees). i really dont know where you get your outdated info from. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:20 PM Flag
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I do not know a single sr woman on Wall St or even in mid management position or in a major law firm who went to a Yeshiva!!! most the MEN would not allow their wives to have a high-paying, high-ranking, influential position. a HUGE problem for many women, not just these particular Jewish women. Many men are still threatened by powerful, successful women, sadly. Most of my Jewish guy friends (and ex boyfriends) loved the fact that I earned 2x more than they did. I'm a Shiksa Menschette with many Jewish friends FWIW [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:26 PM Flag
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ugh! I hate wannabes who claim to know more than those who are [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:33 PM Flag
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my breast surgeon is a female orthodox chief of surgery at nyu. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:37 PM Flag
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lots of orthodox women in medicine at nyu and downstate in brooklyn. they all have 6-8 kids too, and trust me, they are expected to handle the kids and household whether they are chief of surgery or n0t [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:40 PM Flag
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yes, no matter what their professional standing, most orthodox women take great pride in directly parenting their children. the horror. though most working moms i know have lots of help at home. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:47 PM Flag
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good for them until their husband cheats on them, they get divorced then wish they had maintained a job outside the home to support their kids. I do NOT believe that women should be strongly encouraged to be homemakers. not in today's modern world with men having so much economic power vs. women overall [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:56 PM Flag
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the divorce rate is much lower than the nationl average. to draw again from my experiences, 15 yrs after high school there is ONE divorced person from my graduating class of 100. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 09:03 PM Flag
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and again btw, my original point in this post was that we are strongly encouraged to go to school, receive advanced degrees and pursue whatever careers we desire. where do you get your distorted info? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 09:05 PM Flag
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and of course, the men aren't. so damn archaic. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:54 PM Flag
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does it occur to you that this is what they want to do with their lives? i woh pt, but would never want to give up my role as a mom. i dont consider it archaic. i consider it the most important job in the world. i feel sad for your kids that you view caring for them as archaic. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 09:02 PM Flag
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well i dont know where youve been hiding, or perhaps you just never asked and assume they coudlnt have been yeshiva educated if they work on wall st. funny--dh's boss is an orthodox woman-- a vp at major finance firm, i have friends who are soon to be partners at top law firms. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:38 PM Flag
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Paul Weiss or Dewey Ballantine type firms? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:40 PM Flag
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can we stop talking about Jews? PS: I'm Jewish, but really, who cares? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:53 PM Flag
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How much of a difference? About ten. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 02:41 PM Flag
[ - ] Help--my 5mo.old son is driving me bonkers at night. After 7pm he gets progressively moodier & moodier until he's finally just screaming his head off. It's awful! It's not hunger, it's not a wet diaper. I hold him but that only works for a while. The only thing that seems to work is taking him out in his stroller until he falls asleep. After a full day of same, I am absolutely pooped. Pls tell me this is normal & that it will go away. He is otherwise a wonderful baby & rarely sleeps. If he's having a hard time getting to sleep, what can I do to help him? He's my first so I really don't know what to do. TIA! 26 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Newborn 06.03.08, 07:34 PM Flag
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what if you put him to bed at 6:30? sounds like he could be overtired. in any case, he's just about old enough for cio. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:35 PM Flag
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i learned with one of my twins that by seven he needed a dark room, utter quiet and NO touching. exactly the opposite of his sister. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 05:31 AM Flag
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normal, sounds exactly like my db, who is now 13 mos and has totally grown out of it and become a different baby entirely. you can help him by not using stroller or anything else as a crutch to fall asleep. Sleep is a learned behaviour [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:36 PM Flag
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Uh, no, sleep is not a learned behavior. What a bizarre thing to say. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:07 PM Flag
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do you even have a baby? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:13 PM Flag
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ita. sleep is a biological need. self-soothing is a learned behavior, but it also depends on developmental level. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:21 PM Flag
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Sleep is not a learned behavior. Sleep on your terms is a learned behavior. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 04:28 AM Flag
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Why up past 7 pm? What is his schedule? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:37 PM Flag
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It'll change and then you'll have something else to complain about [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:37 PM Flag
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Do you have a swing? would that work? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:38 PM Flag
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hey, may be you need to just leave him in his crib and let him cry it out. I just sleeped trained my 6 mo old. This is only the 4th night, so far so good. She has been fallen asleep for naps, and sleep through the night at least 8 - 9 hour for the past 3 nights. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:40 PM Flag
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At five mo my dd started screaming her head off all day and night. It was the only time I ever questioned my decision to have a child. I read the Mark Weissbluth book on sleep scheduling, followed everything he said to the letter, and it saved my life. My dd, now 8, still sleeps 11 1/2 hours a night and needs it. Your ds is probably insanely overtired. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:42 PM Flag
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from above. I agree that is a very good book, I used it too. sleep training your ds, you will be happy. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:45 PM Flag
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put him to bed earlier!!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:49 PM Flag
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I agree. He may very well be overtired. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:08 PM Flag
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THX! Honestly mu hubby & I have probably set very poor examples. We go to bed very late & our son has been going to bed as late as 11:30 some nights. You're right--he's probably very tired but I guess I just don't know how to put him to sleep. I will look into the Mark Weissbluth book b/c this is all new to me & I need all the help can get or this might be my last & only child! FYI, the swingy chair doesn't work--nor does holding him & putting him in the crib to cry it out. I tried both & the screaming finally drives me to change his position. THX again! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:20 PM Flag
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I'm the MW groupie mom -- the bad thing about this program is it means a pretty rigid lifestyle for you -- no taking your kid out for tapas at 10pm! Two naps a day to plan around. But my dd took to it instantly and stopped screaming. And if you follow recent press about sleep deprivation in American children it seems that kids really do need huge amounts of sleep. It may be as important as giving them good nutrition. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:42 PM Flag
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This is absolutely true!! Your child is totally overtired. Get the Weissbluth book - it will really help you understand sleep patterns. Stick to it and both you and your child will be happier! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 07:50 PM Flag
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I am the sleep training mom. I don't put my dd to bed until 10:30, she sleeps till 10, and taking 2 - 3 naps. I don't think one has to put them to sleep that early, you should make whatever works for. My ds was also sleep trained, he goes to sleep at 10pm and gets up at 8 and takes a 2 1/2 hr naps. The schedule works for us because we go to sleep late. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:18 PM Flag
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Interesting... did you use the Mark Weissbluth book or something else to sleep train them? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:21 PM Flag
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I read the book, but did my own schedule. I just make sure they did thier hours. It works very well for us. After they go to bed, we still have few hours. We don't go to sleep until 12 or 1, it is because our job, sometime we don't get home until 12. But it is going to be difficult when the school time comes. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:25 PM Flag
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Sounds like our schedule--thank you very very much. I feel hopeful that all this can get sorted to fit our routine. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:27 PM Flag
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dd just woke up from her sleep, didn't go into the room. 10 min later she is quiet now. It is hard in the beginning, but you has to be cold hearted. Believe me it is very hard not to pick her up! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:28 PM Flag
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This is our exact schedule too, and I love it! I work at night too so the later wake-up time is perfect. When the kids are 5 and are in school, it will be a different story - but for now both kids sleep til 10am [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 10:41 PM Flag
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he's way over tired. put him down earlier. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 03:32 AM Flag
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It's normal and will pass. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 04:26 AM Flag
[ - ] np: hotdogs are not that fattening 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:33 PM Flag
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but they're gross [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:34 PM Flag
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NP: beg to disagree. A great grilled hot dog is the best [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:36 PM Flag
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nope -- and they're so good though they have little nutritional value [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:01 PM Flag
[ - ] A friend of mine passed away from cancer this weekend. life is soo unfair. i am just sick to my stomach about it 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:33 PM Flag
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I'm sorry, [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:35 PM Flag
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i'm so sorry. i know that feeling...that sick to your stomach feeling when you realize this is real life. and things happen for keeps. and there's nothing you can do about it but keep walking forward as best as you can. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:39 PM Flag
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i'm so sorry.... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 08:01 PM Flag
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