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Thank you so much for being a valued member of the UrbanBaby community. We wanted to inform you that we are shutting down the site on July 6th. We are grateful for your participation and support that has helped make UrbanBaby such an important resource to parents for many years.

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[ - ] Any boys get into Lower Lab? Based on the master list it looks like it's going to be a girls school this year. 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 06.14.08, 07:45 PM Flag
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That's what happened 2 years ago, also. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:47 PM Flag
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where is the master list [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:51 PM Flag
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It's not called master list I just called it that. It says Please Post News of G&T Here. From what I saw all of the LL admits were DD, except one which didn't identify. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:52 PM Flag
[ - ] I went to meeting for kids just starting kindergarten at my local well thought of public school and I could not believe the anxiety ridden women there. I felt for those poor kids. There were a couple of Dads -who just couldn't even get a word in. It was profoundly shocking the things they were worried about. I almost wish I didn't go -now I have so many more things I could be worried about! 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:44 PM Flag
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I felt the same way. I think the DOE has turned it into a very stressful process, it's making people nuts. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:46 PM Flag
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Lol. Don't worry. I felt the same at our meeting last year. Who knew people cared so much about snacks? Fortunately, those are just a few hyperanxious women and don't represent the entire school body! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:46 PM Flag
[ - ] Really wanted Anderson. Got ps 9 G&T. Think we are going to pass and do private pre K. I feel terrible taking the spot from another kid. I wish I never put it down. 16 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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New York City 06.14.08, 07:44 PM Flag
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see poster below--this is why we are seeing so many 166 posts today. Limited seats at 9 (and this is the second one I have seen going to someone who is not planning to take it) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:46 PM Flag
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I am sure the other kids will think you if they end up with a smaller class. you are making a mistake though. It is a fabulous program, and I cannot imagine doing more private preschool over it. You have no idea what a great opportunity you are passing up. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:46 PM Flag
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I would try it, then apply out for K. Several summer and fall kids were shut out this year and have to go right into public 1st. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:48 PM Flag
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OP: But what do you do in 6th grade when ps 9 ends and you are stuck? And how do those kids feel knowing that they are not in the real "Smart Kids" program in their building? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:50 PM Flag
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i wonder if the gen ed kids at 9 know how stupid they are [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:51 PM Flag
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np - What are you talking about? Anderson Middle School? I would imagine that many PS 9 kids go en masse to Delta like they do at PS 166 G&T. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:52 PM Flag
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look all the kids will be 99s and whether you are at one or the other is just a matter of luck since it is by lottery. also, delta is a much better MS than anderson, with a longer history, better facilities more science labs, etc. also bigger, so a chance to meet an expanded group of kids (beyond the 50 you know since K), and the kids in the school will all be from D3 which is a plus in terms of community and socializing. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:53 PM Flag
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Delta's definitely not a better middle school. Because it's larger its population has a much broader range of ability and skill. Because it's bigger, they have a harder time with consistency in teaching. They're also not as accellerated as Anderson's middle school. They have the same base science program (they just have tables with sinks) for 6&7, but Anderson has the Bio Regents class for 8th grade and Delta has Earth Science which doesn't give kids the HS credit. Delta has the same limited access to auditorium, gym, etc. as Anderson because it also shares building with other programs/school. Some kids learn much better socializing staying in small environment at this point in their adolescence and are more ready to be in the larger group in HS. That's about finding the right match. Anderson has better exmissions by % to specialized HS and has a higher rate of kids getting their 1st/2nd choices. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:15 PM Flag
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np: ds went to ps199, delta, stuy and then harvard. will be a sophomore in the fall. the accelerated math at anderson will make no difference in a few years. btdt [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:24 PM Flag
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nnp: I have heard the anderson moms are separation anxious and tend to be over protective. the small learning environment gets very stale for many of these kids by MS btdtX2 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:27 PM Flag
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Socially, it's a choice that's personal, but the point was that Delta isn't necessarily a better school. Certainly now without Fred there and most of his star teachers retired. Top half of Delta kids will do great in the academic careers. 90% of AMS kids will, too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:31 PM Flag
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I heard a number of anderson kids went to mediocre HSs. I think they are not quite there yet, or that the kids who tested well at 4 did not turn out to be so gifted. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:44 PM Flag
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In defense of Anderon's current graduating class of 58 kids: 17 to Stuyvesant, 11 to Bronx Science, 6 to LaGuardia, 6 to American Studies at Lehman, 2 to City College HS of Math Science and Engineering, 3 to Brooklyn Tech, 4 to Beacon, 3 to Bard. 1 to Dalton, 2 to Trinity, 1 to Chapin, 1 to Hotchkiss and 1 to Spence. For virtually all these kids, these were their first choice HS's. All of them are Specialized, highly selective or top privates. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.15.08, 12:36 AM Flag
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DELTA is fantastic. This has been a GREAT year without Fred around. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.20.08, 06:58 PM Flag
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But Delta is better in languages - they take Spanish, French and Latin in 6th and then focus on one of them for 7th & 8th. I believe AMS only has Spanish? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 10:02 PM Flag
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^^^thank you... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:50 PM Flag
[ - ] Help! DH and I had sex last night and the condom broke. I am right in mid cycle and really do not want to get preg now. (have 4 mo, 2 yo and 3.5 yo). should I take the Plan B pill? how does it work? is it too late and where can i get it? WWYD? 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:42 PM Flag
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Go to a 24-hour pharmacy. More likely to work the sooner you take it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:43 PM Flag
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Just go to your local pharmacy and ask for plan B. It's easy. I've done it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:43 PM Flag
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i would take it. but that's because i got pg on the first try both times. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:44 PM Flag
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I agree with everyone above....get to a 24 hour pharmacy.....no prescription necessary, but it is behind the counter [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:48 PM Flag
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I want to add: way to go having sex 4 months post partum! I'm impressed! Especially with two toddlers in the house as well. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:13 PM Flag
[ - ] how do I know if the school bus will come to pick up my dc everyday? what is within walking distance? 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 06.14.08, 07:40 PM Flag
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if you are talking baout doe free bus service, there are "official guidelines." Very generally, you school must support the bus service and have at least 11 elgible children who wish to ride. Distances (of the closest possibel riders) vary by grade (ie K kids can qualify failry close, but 5th graders need to be further away to ride. I know of 1st grader about 10 blocks away who qualify..Also, the bus route cna not be more than 5 miles long. These are my recollections and may be a little off. You can call dc's school and get info. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:45 PM Flag
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thanks. want to know if there is bus for LL. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:14 PM Flag
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I think it is half a mile. ridiculous nyc kids can walk half a mile to school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:00 PM Flag
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Young dc can't walk it alone. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:06 PM Flag
[ - ] OK, people, there's no way the DOE is sending employees out to hand-deliver letters. It would be scandalous if they were even using a messenger service. Do you really think the DOE has that kind of resources, and that it's using them in that way? When the city is cutting funds to schools? 26 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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New York City 06.14.08, 07:39 PM Flag
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LOL! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:39 PM Flag
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I swear on my book collection that my letter was hand delivered today [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:40 PM Flag
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So my letter is fake? But dc was assigned an OSIS # and it lists the school code. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:41 PM Flag
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well, then that sucks, and I'm suddenly in the camp of the people who think G&Ts are sucking too many resources away from gen ed. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:45 PM Flag
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me too! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:49 PM Flag
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np: Of course they are. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.15.08, 04:59 AM Flag
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i am not suddenly in that camp-I have been for a long time. if klein et al truly wanted an equitable system, strengthen the zoned schools across the board, then do multiple city wide g&t schools beg in 4th grade when you will have a more accurate picture of who is truly gifted, not those who are prepped [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.15.08, 05:41 AM Flag
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Sing it, sister! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.15.08, 05:41 AM Flag
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While that sounds like a good idea, it would not work. What they major really should do is test all children in K and then again in third with an actual IQ test. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.15.08, 05:51 AM Flag
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You realize that hand delivery is surprisingly cheap in NYC, right? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:41 PM Flag
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No, I didn't. Cheaper than the post office? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:44 PM Flag
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of course not. she is crazy. leaving letters all over the city taped to doors? please!!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:45 PM Flag
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no, it isn't but since the reply deadline is Friday, and DOE needs to reach people asap and the post ofice cna be oddly slow at times, if is much cheaper than FEd EX. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:46 PM Flag
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That is still such a misuse of funds. Extend the deadline.... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:48 PM Flag
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this has gone on for tooooooo long and should have been resolved months ago. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:49 PM Flag
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I agree, but no way is there money for this kind of crap. It's not right. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:50 PM Flag
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actually, it sounds about right. If you look at what private spends per student vs public, public actually spends more most of the time. It's just not spent well. I think this would be a perfect expenditure so that they can keep whining about needing more money for education [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:41 PM Flag
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we do need more money for education, which is why, if this is true, it really pisses me off. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:52 PM Flag
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Do you realize that the DOE has internal staff who make deliveries all the time AND they use summer interns (unpaid) to do all kinds of jobs like this? It could be in conjunction with another city agency jobs program. This isn't about G&T draining resources. There are many, many ways the DOE drains resources from schools, but delivering letters today by hand so parents have a week to decide instead of 3 days if they went via mail - just isn't a money drain on the education system. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:28 PM Flag
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I agree with this. When I read some of the posts on insideschools how unprofessionally some of the letters were delivered it must have been the DOE's own work. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:32 PM Flag
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DOE has crazy resources and a huge budget. They mis-appropriate funds and mis-manage funds all the time. Why do you find this surprising? The press is all over G&T, the Chancellor needs middle class families in the system and will do whatever it takes to make them happy. Someone probably said "clean this up" and this is some bright b-school grad's idea of out of the box. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.15.08, 04:56 AM Flag
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I agree with you, but they really haven't done a very good job of making middle class families happy. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.15.08, 05:47 AM Flag
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np: Not this time, but in general it keeps a ton of people from leaving NYC. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.15.08, 05:48 AM Flag
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Yeah, that is definitely true. Entitled up to their teeth. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.15.08, 05:52 AM Flag
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though reading some of the posts, there is no way the DOE would ever make some families happy. I agree there were lots of mistakes, but with the level of entitlement in this city, I highly doubt they could make some posters happy no matter what [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.15.08, 05:49 AM Flag
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You are right, but this year they did a particularly terrible job. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.15.08, 05:52 AM Flag
[ - ] red velvet cake 6 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:39 PM Flag
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lol, i just picked up a box mix for red velvet cake. what type of icing/frosting is usually used? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:41 PM Flag
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can't remember. Does it say on the box? I always make from scratch but haven't made that one in a very long time [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:42 PM Flag
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it doesn't, i picked up vanilla and cream cheese [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:43 PM Flag
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prob either would be good. I was thinking cream cheese but not sure. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:45 PM Flag
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cream cheese [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:46 PM Flag
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ty [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:47 PM Flag
[ - ] staying home this summer vacation. any good day trips in an around NYC with a 1yo? 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:36 PM Flag
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Prospect Park or Queens zoo. (Bring food, since not much at either place.) Botanical Gardens. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:00 PM Flag
[ - ] what movie should we see? 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:35 PM Flag
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definitely see Young at Heart. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:03 PM Flag
[ - ] How would you define the NY Onion News paper? 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:34 PM Flag
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A joke. It's supposed to be [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:34 PM Flag
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A parody [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:35 PM Flag
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satire [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:38 PM Flag
[ - ] Anyone else on who got Anderson? 8 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 06.14.08, 07:33 PM Flag
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I don't think they have notified yet the couple of posters here are lying. there would be a number of pople crowing about this here if anderson had notified. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:35 PM Flag
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I doubt all 4 lied [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:38 PM Flag
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my df did I was with her. she was just playing. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:44 PM Flag
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OP: No, we got Anderson. I can't believe there aren't more. Maybe there are very few on UB today!?! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:39 PM Flag
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Anderson does not do the notifications, the DOE does. Letters went out and that's that. Whatever school your kid got is what was on the letter. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:43 PM Flag
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they could have sent them in batches. may be that anderson letters went out later [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:48 PM Flag
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OP:I'm sure many letters are going out Monday, but our Anderson letter did come today. I'm sure there will be more Anderson posts on Monday. I hope to see more of you with us! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:51 PM Flag
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My DD did. Got hand delivered letter around 2:15 today. so excited! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:39 PM Flag
[ - ] What's the closest beach from Manhattan? We want to take 2 yo just for a day. 11 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 06.14.08, 07:33 PM Flag
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Long Beach is easy. You just take the LIRR to it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:33 PM Flag
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Is parking a pain? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:34 PM Flag
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You take the train. It goes right up to the boardwalk. No car necessary [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:35 PM Flag
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we may take the train, but we were considering driving so 2yo could sleep in his carseat on the way home. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:43 PM Flag
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doesn't it smell of fuel?? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:35 PM Flag
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lol. no [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:37 PM Flag
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The water taxi beach is just across the east river. Coney Island Beach is subway-able [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:37 PM Flag
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^^but if you are driving and wan to get uot of the city, my fave day trip beach is Spring Lake NJ [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:40 PM Flag
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I would drive to CT [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:43 PM Flag
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not real beach, imo. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:56 PM Flag
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i love long branch in NJ -- it's about an hour away - there's a gorgeous boardwalk with pretty shops and restaurants, too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:00 PM Flag
[ - ] Am I the only one who is doubting this taping to the wall hand deliver but no sign. I just sounds to fishey.. maybe its just me. I just know I used to work for the DOE and they like to CYA, I would think they would make you sign to make sure you got it. And if they were doing it for zone check then they would want ID or something. 8 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 06.14.08, 07:28 PM Flag
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There were three envelopes for three different kids with our doorman at 10:00 am this morning. Believe what you wish. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:29 PM Flag
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did you peek at the others? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:30 PM Flag
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No, but we know the parents so I am sure I will find out on Monday. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:30 PM Flag
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So you think we have all been punked? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:29 PM Flag
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oh, please I hope so. Signed, 3rd choice 99. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:36 PM Flag
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I absolutely do not believe this. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:33 PM Flag
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I'm out of NYC right now, and when I read about the delivery thing, I had my sister run to my apt. bldg (nondoorman) and she could see it resting right on top of the mailbox. She waited until someone came out and she ran in and got it for me [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:39 PM Flag
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I am one who got the hand delivered letter (first one on here - 3rd choiced 99) and got skewered for it for about an hour until there were enough of us. But I agree with you that it's totally bizarre that they didn't take the opportunity to have us sign for the letters -- checking IDs would have been a great touch, and might have outed some fake address folk. The whole thing speaks to the desperate nature of this process. Shocking. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:39 PM Flag
[ - ] Do they figure it out though... I feel like if I leave them one will end up hurting the other and someone crying... 8 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:26 PM Flag
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But is that really so bad? They need to learn to work out stuff themselves. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:27 PM Flag
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I really don't want them to be violent. I can't bare the thought of them hitting each other and just scrapping and grabbing... Do yours continue to do that if you leave them to it. Doesn't it escalate? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:39 PM Flag
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No, it rarely escalates. They know that if they don't stop it in a reasonable time, I'll stop it for them - and they'd rather just go back to playing instead of being separated. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:40 PM Flag
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interesting.... do they hit each other? what is the age/gender difference? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:46 PM Flag
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They are 6 and 2. It's the little guy who starts things. The older one won't hit, he's afraid of really hurting him, but he'll push him out of the way or wrest a toy away, etc. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:48 PM Flag
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Mine are 4 and 2 - girl is oldest. Usually little one who starts to. He will grab or hit & 4 year old just starts whining at him. I almost can't bare the whining more than anything else. Trying to concentrate on getting her to express in words what she is upset about and how to say it to him. They have always been so sweet together -just suddenly seems to be a tricky age mix. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:52 PM Flag
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I get how annoying the older one can be - even my 6yo whines about this. I told him he can grab a toy back, and physically stop his brother from hitting or whatever. They are getting better about it, I think because they are getting less attention from it (for a while, I was getting involved each time). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:54 PM Flag
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maybe this it the next step for me..... I am going to find it excruciatingly hard!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:56 PM Flag
[ - ] As a lifelong feminist, how is it that I do not feel any disappointment (only relief at this point that the primaries are over) in Clinton's loss.? My sister and a good friend seem almost devastated. Keep saying things like, We were so close! Except for the annoying campaign stuff, I would have been fine with either Obama or Clinton, but I was never feelin' that first woman president thing. 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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News 06.14.08, 07:25 PM Flag
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probably because you have good sense. Voting for someone because of gender is sexist no matter which side you are on [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:36 PM Flag
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Maybe. Neither my sister or my friend would have voted for a woman who doesn't share most of her political views. I'd vote for, say, Barbara Jordan (if she were still alive!) in a heartbeat, but Clinton just didn't inspire me that way. (Thanks for answering. I was getting tired of slogging through all the school stuff, so thought I'd try a new subject!) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:43 PM Flag
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I apreciate that! I wish people would post to the NYC schools board about that crap. Although I guess I should be grateful that people are here posting about something! I really dislike Clinton and was very heppy that she lost to Obama. I don't agree with him on everything, but at least he is new to the game and I dont think as corrupt. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:44 PM Flag
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I'm really happy with Obama as well. (op) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:11 PM Flag
[ - ] How do you deal with fighting siblings? How do you discipline? 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:23 PM Flag
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If it seems like a fair match, we'll leave them alone to work it out. Other times we just separate them. Unless it's clear that one attacked the other unprovoked, no discipline, just a "quit it now." [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:25 PM Flag
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Keep it down in there! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:26 PM Flag
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my parents always stopped the fighting bet. me and my brother. and instead of acting as an intermediary, they just told us that we shouldn't fight because we are siblings. kind of simple, but it worked. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:30 PM Flag
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^^also we both got in trouble for fighting with each other regardless of who started it and who was right. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 07:31 PM Flag
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