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[ - ] Did all sibs hear today? 0 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 06.14.08, 08:49 PM Flag
[ - ] What time is Meet the Press on? 0 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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New York City 06.14.08, 08:46 PM Flag
[ - ] DH is such a curmudgeon. He hates all holidays. Says we don't believe in them and refuses to acknowledge them. If anyone else tries, he minimizes and makes a face. So tomorrow we're having lunch with family for father's day and he's sulking. Refuses to even say Happy Mother's Day on that day. Fine if you don't believe, but don't ruin it for everyone else. 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:45 PM Flag
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how can you not "believe" in Mother's/Father's day? does he believe in the the 4th of July? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 09:05 PM Flag
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Same for Valentine's Day. "They're manufactured holidays." But he's Jewish so he also gets to hate Christmas. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 09:22 PM Flag
[ - ] It's official. Public school mothers are way worse than private. 20 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 06.14.08, 08:42 PM Flag
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agree 100 percent. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:43 PM Flag
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amen [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:43 PM Flag
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well having to wait until mid June to find out where your dc will be placed does that to you....private schools notified 4 mos ago. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:43 PM Flag
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Whatever. We're public parents. I stand by my statement. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:44 PM Flag
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well, you must be zoned to a good gen ed. because if you were zoned to a failing gen ed and couldn't afford private you would be more understanding [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:46 PM Flag
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Not failing but not exactly exalted. I think the massive senses of entitlement are what get me most. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:47 PM Flag
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In what way? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:44 PM Flag
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Have you been reading the schools board today? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:44 PM Flag
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Yes, but I haven't seen anything so far that strikes me as worse than what I saw this February when letters from ongoings came out. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:46 PM Flag
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Cant' respond to poster below - at least private parent are paying - that does entitle you to something. Signed, public. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:53 PM Flag
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Not really. A willingness to pay doesn't entitle you to be accepted at the school or your choice, or any school for that matter. It doesn't entitle you to make despicable comments about the dc who attend the schools you don't like, or who "stole you spot" by getting into the school you did like. It doesn't entitle you to jump to conclusions about why certain dc get in, pass judgment on people who apply for FA, and on and on. It's sickening. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 09:07 PM Flag
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ha! wait until next february. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:44 PM Flag
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I've been here for years. This year clinches it. Public - MUCH worse. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:45 PM Flag
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agree. it's pretty bad. signed: public school mom [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:47 PM Flag
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Oh no. My BRILLIANT CHILD only got the TERRIBLE G&T at 166. SHOOT ME NOW. (Said with tongue planted firmly in cheek.) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:50 PM Flag
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OK, but she was scorned. Come on, there are entitled whackos on both sides [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:51 PM Flag
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Just one example. :) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:52 PM Flag
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i don't get what the furor is over some mythical sense of "entitlement." Are we that impoverished as a society that when someone expects a decent, appropriate education for their child in the public system, expects to be treated with courtesy, be notified in a timely fashion, and not to have the rules changed every 5 minutes is an outrageous demand that qualifies them as "entitled"? Only people with 30K after taxes to spare should have their children decently educated? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.15.08, 12:57 PM Flag
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It's all mothers. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.15.08, 01:34 AM Flag
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speak for yourself [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.15.08, 04:05 AM Flag
[ - ] OK, so who emailed their reply today to the DOE (if you got the letter today?). I did but thinking I'll mail it in too........ 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 06.14.08, 08:37 PM Flag
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what school did you get? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:39 PM Flag
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11 (dc has a sib there though) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:41 PM Flag
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I emailed but dh is hand delivering the slip Monday morning as well [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:48 PM Flag
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I just emailed them. Will mail it tomorrow too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 09:21 PM Flag
[ - ] Can anyone recommend a NYC-only show for 16-yo daughter of friend who will be visiting this weekend? Not broadway, more off-off. 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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New York City 06.14.08, 08:36 PM Flag
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saved or reasons to be pretty [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 09:26 PM Flag
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Fuerta Bruta (I think that's the name) It's on Union Sq [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.15.08, 04:10 AM Flag
[ - ] Forget about G and T for a sec. Watch me on Abc now monday morning or on the net. I am doing a peice about asthma. 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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New York City 06.14.08, 08:35 PM Flag
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i before e, except after c or when sounded as "ay" as in neighbor and weigh [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:42 PM Flag
[ - ] i converted to judaism about 5 years ago. i find myself still attracted to some of the messages of christianity, yet not the idea of jesus. i am worried that i am "violating" my jewishness. what do you think? 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:34 PM Flag
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talk to your rabbi [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:35 PM Flag
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Just don't roll on Shabbos and you'll be fine. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:37 PM Flag
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What messages? I converted also so I'm curious. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.15.08, 06:09 AM Flag
[ - ] Here is the question of all questions. Tribeca Learning Center (PS150) or Lower Lab. This is killing me. 31 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 06.14.08, 08:34 PM Flag
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No question to me - LL [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:35 PM Flag
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Where do you live? That would make the decision for me. I prefer the more laid-back vibe at gen'l ed, but one class per grade bothers me, therefore, I would go by geography. FWIW, most of the LL parents I've met are an intense lot. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:35 PM Flag
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aren't there only 2 classes per grade at LL? Is that really a big enough difference? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:37 PM Flag
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It would be enough of a difference to me, but it's a matter of taste. Sometimes it can help to break up certain dynamics and mix up the kids. Probably depends on the group from year to year. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:40 PM Flag
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where do you live? both schools are subpar to 234 or 89 with HUGE classes so if I were you and those were the only two choices, I'd go with convenience. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:36 PM Flag
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PS 89 is figuring they will have 34 kids in 4th grade classes this coming fall (per their website). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.15.08, 12:31 AM Flag
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oh, i thought a question of all questions is how to make sure that children get enought to eat, are loved and properly cared for? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:36 PM Flag
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you must not be in NYC. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:37 PM Flag
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i'm in nyc. i just don't buy into any of this. at. all. my gifted child, yes actually gifted, goes to the local school with "regular" children and we don't worry about much [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:43 PM Flag
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you are a real mom. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:45 PM Flag
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thanks, if you're not being sarcastic. the funny thing is, i wouldn't be surprised if my child who will be in "regular" classes, does a whole lot better and is far less anxious than many of your anxiety-laden children [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:49 PM Flag
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NP - thanks from a parent sending her child to the local gen ed. Rather be a bug fish in a little pond with way less anxiety. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:50 PM Flag
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^^Or a big fish. Bug fish. Big fish. Does it matter? :) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:51 PM Flag
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np. Congrats, you win tonight's Smug Post award. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:55 PM Flag
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NP: She's honest. You see it as smug. Go get the workbooks! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:56 PM Flag
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Sorry, but we don't do workbooks. Call it what you want, her comment comparing her dc to our "anxiety-laden children" was smug. Also baseless. Many truly gifted dc would find being in a regular class to be the more stressful experience. If her doesn't, great. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 09:02 PM Flag
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"Truly gifted" isn't just a label you get from the SB and OLSAT. It involves a huge battery of tests and evaluations. But go on with your pronouncements. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 09:03 PM Flag
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sigh. By truly gifted, I only mean that it's been established through assessments, not just the parents' opinion of their dc. And I realize "truly gifted" isn't a clinical term, but my intention was to include the full range of giftedness, not just the profoundly gifted, or the exceptionally or highly gifted. But please, YOU go on with your smug, idiotic attempts at put-downs. While you're at it, try to respond to the actual point. Which is that for many truly gifted dc, to be in a regular classroom is very stressful. So for the OR to make a pronouncement like the one she made, is stupid. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 09:14 PM Flag
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How do you know your child is "actually" gifted? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 09:56 PM Flag
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That is a tough one! I would go with LL. You will get a better middle school that way, but the commute will suck!!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.15.08, 08:16 AM Flag
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Why would this get you a better middle school? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.29.08, 07:23 PM Flag
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Re the question of whether gifted children need to be with their academic peer group or are just as happy or happier in a gen ed setting.. wait for it... IT DEPENDS ON THE CHILD. Some gifted kids do well anywhere. Some are at a big disadvantage in a gen ed classroom because they: 1. get bored and act out or withdraw; 2. have trouble making friends because their vocabularies and preoccupations are different than the other children's. It's idiotic to claim that just because your child doesn't need anything special, no other child does either. Remember how some babies sletp through the night easily and others didn't? Children are not all alike. Sigh. This should be obvious. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 04:47 AM Flag
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I think you are continuing some argument in your head with someone other than me. I was simply wondering why someone would assert that LL would necessarily help you get into a better MS. If the school of origin played any part in the process. My dc qualified for citywide, but will attend a gen ed. I think dc will be happy there, but I just wondered if there was something I didn't understand about the MS process. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.08, 06:56 AM Flag
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whichever is closer. if you're the mom who lives uptown and works downtown i would do ll. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 04:20 AM Flag
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the closer one. no question. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 04:42 AM Flag
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No doubt, LL! We live near 150(Tribeca) but I don't mind the commute. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 06:05 AM Flag
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wow, really? we live downtown and could have had a seat at ll but thought the commute would be too much. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 08:35 AM Flag
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In my ds' LL class, many dowtowners were weary of the commute quickly and carpooled or trainpooled. By 5th grade, they were ecstatic to find downtown ms. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 10:09 AM Flag
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Do you have a DD or DS? LL is going to very DD heavy this year. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 09:46 AM Flag
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Who dug out this old posting? It's more than two weeks old. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 10:17 AM Flag
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i know. seriously. yet here i am bumping it to the top of the page. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.30.08, 10:33 AM Flag
[ - ] So what happens to all the poor letters taped to doors today that got caught out in the rain? Are they washed away? Are those spots now open for the rest of us? 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:34 PM Flag
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Someone left the cake out in the rain.... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:36 PM Flag
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LOL, you're a bad girl! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:37 PM Flag
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I have a feeling they are going to mail out 2nd copies anyway. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:37 PM Flag
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ITA. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:38 PM Flag
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this way those who DO get letters will start the process of registering vs everyone storming the schools all at once [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:38 PM Flag
[ - ] CAN YOU ALL JUST SHUT UP ABOUT YOUR SCHOOLS NOW????????? 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:33 PM Flag
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sorry you got shut out. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:41 PM Flag
[ - ] To the mom who's "depressed" over 166: my kid didn't get a spot. Now *there* is a reason to be depressed! 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 06.14.08, 08:28 PM Flag
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what schools did you list? score? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:30 PM Flag
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cant reply to OR - 166 and 163. 94. Didn't really expect a placement based on the score but seeing someone lamenting a really good program is laughable. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:31 PM Flag
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ah...sorry to hear. maybe try again next year. dc is obviously smart. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:34 PM Flag
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Thanks. :) I don't need to DOE to tell me that. Hope all worked out well for you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:35 PM Flag
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thanks. still waiting. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:36 PM Flag
[ - ] Now that they've made placements will the DOE *FINALLY* honor my request to see my child's test? This is total BS. 11 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 06.14.08, 08:25 PM Flag
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all in due time. and don't worry, unless there is some technical error, it won't make a difference. if there is a technical error (wrong test, lost test) you will be granted a re-test and placed appropriately. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:28 PM Flag
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Doubt there will be a retest. Just find it odd that they wouldn't allow people to see tests before placements. Would avoid a lot of headaches. But why would they do that? It's too logical for the DOE. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:29 PM Flag
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why would the DOE want to cater to bitchy, whiny moms like you? Your kid bombed the test. Move on. It says absolutely nothing about your child, you know that right? Guess what, even really really smart kids can bomb a test when they're 4. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:31 PM Flag
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1. My child didn't bomb the test - one subtest is entirely out of whack. 2. I know it says nothing about my child. 3. I didn't whine. We simply followed the protocol and sent in a written request as per DOE instructions. 4. WTF crawled up your ass? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:33 PM Flag
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NP, but I think you're going to be in GREAT shape. They'll recalculate the BSRA and you'll have your pick of the empty spots at the top schools [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:37 PM Flag
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Got 99th percentile on BSRA. It was a part of the OLSAT. Looks like DC skipped the entire section. Or tester coded answers incorrectly. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:39 PM Flag
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^^But thanks. :) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:40 PM Flag
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your kid probably got bored and refused to do the subtest. duh. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:40 PM Flag
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And goodnight. No need to insult me you drunk hag. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:41 PM Flag
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they have enough to do right now. makes sense to do it after placements. would only matter if there were a problem like lost test, wrong test assigned to a given kid, etc. no reason for them to do this in the middle of trying to get letters out [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:32 PM Flag
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But it's two entirely different offices. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:36 PM Flag
[ - ] I think it 0 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.14.08, 08:20 PM Flag
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