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[ - ] Do you think that leopard print has a sexual connotation? 10 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:54 AM Flag
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yes, slightly [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:55 AM Flag
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Yes, even on little girls [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 10:00 AM Flag
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I disagree. I think others may interpret or project sexual significance onto leopard print on a little girl. I don't believe that is the same though. (But I'm not a linguist/etymologist.) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 10:12 AM Flag
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The result is the same though. I don't think it is wise to dress your little girl in leopard print. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 10:14 AM Flag
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I think the twisted fucks who sexualize little kids either don't care about the clothes or would prefer more little girly. But I don't have a little girl so it is easy for me to say that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 10:19 AM Flag
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np: I disagree. I saw a little girl many yrs back in a little leopard swing coat. Nothing sexual about that [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 10:20 AM Flag
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np: that's quite different than a midriff baring leopard print top on for a 2 y/o which is what you tend to see now. or a leopard print bikini. etc. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 10:24 AM Flag
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yes [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 10:09 AM Flag
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That is what it is for [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 10:10 AM Flag
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i think it has a tacky connontation [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 10:22 AM Flag
[ - ] For K kids, is it better to get a wheeled backpack that can also be carried or just a regular one? I know DD won't be lugging around a bunch of textbooks, but the wheels seem somewhat convenient when we are walking to school. Tia. 6 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 07.11.08, 09:43 AM Flag
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when my dd was in K the heaviest thing was her lunch box. They really didn't carry much in there [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:44 AM Flag
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same here [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:46 AM Flag
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regular backpack is fine ime [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:44 AM Flag
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I'm sure she can manage a lunch and a folder in a back pack. People trip over the wheeled ones, especially in crowds (drop off, pick up, bunches of kids.) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:45 AM Flag
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most schools have rules against the ones with wheels - ridiculous to try to use in a crowded school [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 10:04 AM Flag
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DO NOT get a wheeled backpack. First when dc carries it on her back the dirty wheels rub off on her clothes. Also they are way too big to fit into the closet or cubby where she will store it at school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 03:13 PM Flag
[ - ] WWYD? My 4 yo said something racist last night and it completely floored me. I told her that I heard of a nice girl going into her K class in the fall and she asked me what she looked like. I told her it didn't matter what she looked like, as long as she was a nice person, and DD told me she hoped the girl didn't have brown skin b/c she didn't like brown skin except on nannies (she has a black nanny). Of course, I told her how that was not nice and everybody was the same, no matter their skin color, hair color, how they dressed, etc., but it really shocked me. We (and she) have relatives and friends of different races and ethnicities, so I really don't know where she picked this up. What else should I be doing? Thanks in advance. 15 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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New York City 07.11.08, 09:36 AM Flag
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She doesn'e understand what she is saying just explain it and maybe try to encourage a friendship with a child of a different race. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:38 AM Flag
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op: I guess that she doesn't fully understand, but I was so taken aback that I jumped all over her for it. She has friends of different races already, as well as a cousin. That's part of why I was so surprised. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:40 AM Flag
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did you ask her why she doesn't like brown skin except for her nanny? I would also have asked if she had heard things like this from others. She must have heard something from someone else [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:43 AM Flag
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^^btw you sound like a lovely person who is doing the best she can with her dc. Signed brown skinned mom [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:44 AM Flag
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op: thanks so much. I definitely did NOT feel like a good parent last night. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:46 AM Flag
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you did nothing wrong. Not like you are throwing the N word around and can take blame for her reaction [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:47 AM Flag
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op: I did ask her, but she kind of clammed up, probably due to my reaction. I guess I'll try to bring it up gently over the next few days to get more info and talk about it with her some more. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:44 AM Flag
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yes bring it up again when you both are sitting around and not upset. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:46 AM Flag
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np: but also recognize that sometimes a passing our misunderstood comment can attract so much of our focus that the kid then fixates where nothing existed in the first place. I wouldn't drop it but I would try real hard to get to that discussion via some other tack. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:50 AM Flag
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ITA that you are doing the best you can - although it's probably better not to respond with such intensity next time - since she might not be weighting her comments with as much judgment as you imagine she is, you know? my dd notices skin color all the time and notes it, comparing some people's complexions to others. i try to talk about the different tones of brown and white and black. she also calls two friends with the same name "white lisa" and "brown lisa" - which it has been a puzzle to try to figure out how to respond to because - like i said, it has no meaning for her. it's just descriptive. and, by telling her it's not okay, i am then creating negative meaning to the skin color. sigh. it's all complicated but grist for the mill. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:53 AM Flag
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np: have you tried suggesting she call the Lisas by their last name..ect Lisa H. and Lisa T. Then you could explain that is the proper way to do it if she feels the need to distinguish which lisa she is talking about [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:56 AM Flag
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or: she's 2 and a half - we've tried gentle redirections like this and they are not effective, unfortunately. the "brown lisa" (not her real name, btw) is a cousin (half white and half latino), so our family finds it amusing and not really an issue, luckily. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 10:00 AM Flag
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sorry I thought you were talking about a 4yr old [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 10:02 AM Flag
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op: I agree. I was a little surprised by my intensity. I haven't corrected her in the past when she referred to two girls in her class with the same name as "Chinese Jane" and "Spanish Jane," as I just figured that was her way of differentiating between the two and I personally think it's okay to acknowledge distinctions among us, but I was concerned that she was making judgments based on those distinctions. Of course, I'm using an adult perspective to judge a 4 yo's comments, so I probably do need to ease up a bit. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:56 AM Flag
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NP: Dc may very well have been voicing a cosmetic preference, which she meant innocently in her mind (e.g. saying I like blue better than pink). I would just make her aware that these particular opinions could be very hurtful if voiced out loud, and try to explain why in a very rudimentary way. ITA w/ not making as big a deal out of it- otherwise, dc may learn to not discuss these types of issues with you, in fear of getting yelled at again. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 10:06 AM Flag
[ - ] i find that i am really not into the whole hanging out with other mothers thing. i sahm and thought that i would enjoy being with other moms, but find that most just don't appeal to me. i go to my local meetup groups and i feel i have so little in common with almost everyone. what's wrong with me? 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:35 AM Flag
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I feel the same way- it feels like high school all over again! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:36 AM Flag
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finding a nice group of ladies is harder than finding shoes for my extra wide width feet. I know what you mean but I promise you that in time within those groups you will find someone..or a few ppl. My older dc is 8yr old and just this yr I found a nice group of moms in my 4yr olds preschool class. I was amazed how nice everyone is. I was excited [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:46 AM Flag
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There is nothing wrong with you! What is wrong is the thinking that simply because two women procreated at the same time they should enjoy each others company. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 10:10 AM Flag
[ - ] has anyone ever worked at a goddard school? i'm returning to work and thinking about doing something w kids and have an interview there... 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:31 AM Flag
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depends on the school and the director- day cares can be very difficult to work at or they can be wonderful [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:33 AM Flag
[ - ] Does anyone LOVE their child's day camp? Not just that they come home and had a good time, but that you really feel like the counselors and directors care and it is a really special experience for your child. I feel like all the camps are "good," but haven't found one yet that seems to go above and beyond. 14 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:26 AM Flag
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Yes, I love,love,love Dalton camp. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:29 AM Flag
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OP: Thanks, but I'm thinking of camp for slightly older -- 3rd/4th graders -- probably out of the city [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:34 AM Flag
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That age is hard. Honestly, that's when most kids start to go to sleepaway camp. If not they tend to go to specialized camps. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.17.08, 06:34 AM Flag
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does your dc go to Dalton? I was just wondering about these school camps and whether your dc has to go to the school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 10:05 AM Flag
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:35 AM Flag
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what do your kids do during the summer? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:37 AM Flag
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not sure your experience with camp but my dc camp is great. She takes sports, photography, documentary and film making, swimming, ect. This isn't day care...far from it [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 10:04 AM Flag
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First--camp is not daycare, and second--what's so funny about daycare? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 10:11 AM Flag
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My kids go to Woodmont in New City and seem to love it. It's by Ramapo and Ramaquois and I'm sure they are all very similar. They don't love the bus ride, but talk very happily about their day. Facilities are great. This is in sharp contrast to their experience at Asphalt Green. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:43 AM Flag
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Can you describe AG? Thinking of it next yr for 7yo [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:51 AM Flag
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We really did not like it. It is very sports oriented with huge amounts of outdoor time. My dc got hot and bored. Plus the counselors are all very young and inexperienced. It is reasonably $ compared to some, but unless your kid is a sports fanatic who can spend most of the day outdoors, I would not do it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:52 AM Flag
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yes LREI. My kids LOVES IT and so do I. My dds (ages 8yr and 4yr) have already asked if they could go again next yr [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 10:02 AM Flag
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Harlem School of the Arts, and yes it is fabulous! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.17.08, 05:45 AM Flag
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I LOVE my kids camp - Woodmont. My kids come home happy every day, singing songs, talking about their counselors and activities. You must call them! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.04.08, 01:57 PM Flag
[ - ] Isn't there a little toy store on the UWS on east side of Broadway in the high 80s/low 90s that sells balloons? What is the name of the store? I'm in a bit of a jam and google is not coming up with anything. 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:24 AM Flag
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i think it's called "the party store" or something generic like that. i think it's next door to a dunkin' donuts [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 05:45 PM Flag
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The best balloon spot on the UWS is the 99 cents store between Janovic and Planet Kidz on the E side of B'way((103-4th Sts.?). They have a big selection of printed mylar ones and shelf colored ones suitable for helium-which they will fill. You just have to go. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 05:56 PM Flag
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Essentials -- 81st and Broadway, south west corner. Go upstairs. At the back, massive amounts of balloons, mylar, special occasion, helium canister, you name it. Train tables for the kids to play on also on the 2nd floor. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 07:02 PM Flag
[ - ] any ideas for where a group of 6 or 7 girlfriends can go for a 40th birthday celebration? travel for a weekend would be awesome. 13 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:23 AM Flag
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^^^nothing super expensive though -- should fit a few different budgets [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:24 AM Flag
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Go to Atlantic City, completely cheeky....but a good time if you let yourself enjoy it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:30 AM Flag
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canyon ranch would be my dream 40th birthday celebration [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:31 AM Flag
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OR maybe there is a cheaper spa? My friend once went to one near Asheville. You can tour Biltmore (my idea of fun). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 01:59 PM Flag
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OP: this is interesting idea. many of the women are coming from atlanta [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 02:21 PM Flag
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OP: LOL. we need something almost exactly in the middle -- a little cheesy and a little luxury. we're traveling from different cities to meet up. any place in mexico fit this bill? It's for travel in March... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:37 AM Flag
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acapulco! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:41 AM Flag
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cancun! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 10:00 AM Flag
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vegas? easy to get to from almost anywhere and you can have both cheesy and luxury and there's a hotel at almost every price point. March's weather isn't always the best so you may not get pool time though. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 10:13 AM Flag
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np. even the so-called luxury hotels in vegas are total cheese. the whole place is so depressing imo. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 03:42 PM Flag
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Why don't you do an all inclusive in the Bahamas or Jamaica. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:59 AM Flag
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OP: I've never been to an all-inclusive -- are they really all they're cracked up to be? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 03:07 PM Flag
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Miami Beach [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 02:04 PM Flag
[ - ] love this video 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:21 AM Flag
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sorry my bad-- video is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKneKE9fXtw [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:23 AM Flag
[ - ] love this video 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:21 AM Flag
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oops, here's link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKneKE9fXtw [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:23 AM Flag
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Ok, I love Obama, but this video is lame compared to some of the really great ones out there. Please don't spam us with crap. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:31 AM Flag
[ - ] Yay! Just booked our trip to Paris for late September! 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:16 AM Flag
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ohh i love Paris [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:17 AM Flag
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me too [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:17 AM Flag
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great time of year to be there! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:53 AM Flag
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i'm going, too, in mid-september! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:55 AM Flag
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I'm jealous! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:55 AM Flag
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where are you staying? How many nights? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 10:14 AM Flag
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We have an apartment there. Going for 17 days total, but will spend a few days in Brussells and a few in Aix [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 10:26 AM Flag
[ - ] have you ever been fired? did you deserve to be? 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:13 AM Flag
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I was fired from a waitressing job after a year in college. It was so long ago I barely remember but I think it was kind of unfair - there was a new manager who changed the scheduling process and I was having a hard time scheduling shifts. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:15 AM Flag
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I was fired as an attorney from a lawfirm. It was very traumatizing and awful, and I did not see it coming. I don't think I deserved to be fired; I was a baby lawyer, and while I may have needed improvement, I feel I should have been counseled and trained and mentored instead of just dumped. Ultimately, it was the wrong place for me,and I got a clerkship with a federal judge immediately after being fired, and had lined up several other job opportunities as well. so in the end, I was proud of my ability to find something else so good so quickly and I grew and learned from it. so it wasn't as terrible as I had always thought something like that would be. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:26 AM Flag
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what r u doing now? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:36 AM Flag
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yes, 2x. once was a retail job in high school -- was very unfair and only because that kind of labor is so easily replaceable. second time was totally deserved. I was almost fired from the job I had during my first pregnancy. My boss actually told me at about 8 months that when I came back to work I could accept a demotion and pay raise or be fired. I did not go back to that job, but I did leave with a very nice $$ parting gift. LOL [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:40 AM Flag
[ - ] how long does your 15mo nap during the day? 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 07.11.08, 09:12 AM Flag
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2 hours [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:18 AM Flag
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at 15mo, my ds was alternating between 2 naps lasting about 1-2 hours each and 1 nap lasting about 2-3 hours. now at 17mo, he has completely switched to 1 after nap lasting about 2-3 hours. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:18 AM Flag
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mine naps 2-2 1/2 hrs in morning and maybe an hour in the afternoon [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.11.08, 09:20 AM Flag
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