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[ - ] dh was laid off 3+ months ago, have a 1yr old and another one on the way, my company just announced big lay offs ahead, if my head rolls, we are screwed... 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:36 PM Flag
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poor is just poor. btdt as single mom and married. not to belittle stress, but you will be ok. seriously. i remember choosing between lundry detergent and shampoo and eating beans, rice, pasta and pb... you will bounce back if the worst happens and def. be ok if it doesn't. good luck! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:38 PM Flag
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you are right, at the moment is just the stress of the unknown, dh hasn't been able to find a job yet, and with a the prospect of me getting laid off, we are pretty quiet tonight.. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:42 PM Flag
[ - ] neighbors 7 y/o boy & 10 y/o girl coming to my 4 y/o's bday party? what do i do about the goody bag situation? 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:33 PM Flag
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My 5 and 8 y.o. know without question that they do not get goody bags if they end up at a party w/ their 2 y.o sister. However, if you really feel the need to do something, just make extra bags of the same thing. How babyish could it be? My 8 y.o. loves all that crap. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:35 PM Flag
[ - ] ikea beds for kids - yea or nay and why?TIA 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:29 PM Flag
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i think that they are fine. my dd and ds have had them for years. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:30 PM Flag
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not rickety? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:34 PM Flag
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not at all. more firm like a futon (mattress) had bunkbeds and daybeds, metal frames. moved three times, still fine. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:35 PM Flag
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thanks - sorry my connection is super slow [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:44 PM Flag
[ - ] Moving to LA and need some info on schools, interested in both public and private and have some general questions, What does private school cost? is there an ERB type entrance exam? is it as diff as NYC to find a spot? what are the best public school districts? is there a G&T program or an equiv school to Hunter? Any info on good guide books/websites to start my research?? Thanks 8 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 07.22.08, 06:29 PM Flag
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My friend said it's not hard. If you can pay, you can send dc. Then again, maybe only compared to NYC. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:34 PM Flag
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my sister lives in LA and says the exact opposite. She said there are not nearly enough good private schools and it's all about connections. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 06:54 AM Flag
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Well, has she gone thru the process in NYC? My friend has and she said it's a breeze in comparison. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 07:00 AM Flag
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LA is so huge, you know? LAUSD schools generally stink. I don't know if there are any good ones these days. You're better off in a place with [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:23 PM Flag
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^^^...in a place in an independent school district, and the richer the better - like Beverly Hills, Palos Verdes, Pasadena, etc etc. There is a gifted school I've heard about in LA but it's a private school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:25 PM Flag
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Private in LA is much easier to get into (and cheaper). Issue is where you and/or your dh are going to work/live. traffic is key, so don't plan on living too far away from work or putting your child in a school that requires a long commute from home. LA Unified is generally poor with some notable exceptions, some of the idependent districts (SM, PP, Malibu) are okay but even the really nice districts can have tough middle schools. There is a book on Amazon (can't remember the name) that covers both private and public options and there are consultants out there. G&T and magnet schools are limited. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:44 PM Flag
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My friend has a Beverly Hills PO but it's not Beverly Hills 90210. She said that the schools where she is are okay for elementary, but she is doing private since she liked a school and it worked out. She said it is hard for private - not as bad as NYC but still a big hassle. I don't think she mentioned anything like Hunter/G&T. I have heard of Harvard Westlake - maybe they post tuition? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 08:05 PM Flag
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it's nothing like what I read that you New Yorkers are going through - join citymommy.com and you'll get lots of advice [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 12:56 AM Flag
[ - ] DD is the proud owner of the latest Miley Cyrus CD. It sucks, of course. But she thinks she's the coolest kid on the block. Sigh. 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:27 PM Flag
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You can't be the arbiter of your kids' musical taste. My parents thought U2 sucked. I, of course, begged to differ. And still do. Let it go. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:42 PM Flag
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am I the only one who thinks that her public persona is pretty trashy? I'm not sure why your daughter gets to have a cd that you don't approve. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 12:59 AM Flag
[ - ] SHARING-my 3 yo dd has an issue with it. when her friend(s) come over, she won't share her toys. she will pick out toys that she wants them to play with. when her friends want to play with what she is playing with, she will not give in and share. when she is over at her friends' house and finds a toy she likes, she will not give it up when the host friend wants to play with it. HELP!!! my dh and i share everything and show that we share but that has not had any effect on her. is this typical? and when she is with a friend who has just as much of a strong personality as her, they inevitably get into a fight. she seems to only play nice with friends who are more docile and give in. WTF? any tips on having her share? we have had so many talks with her. 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:22 PM Flag
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ask her to pick 3 things that she doesn't want to share and put them away then tell her that everything else you need to share but not to worry because sally or fred will not take any toys home etc. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:25 PM Flag
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she needs to know that things are hers and that if she shares that she still gets to keep them. I was told not to intervene in the situations where the children both want a certain toy unless there is physical pushing, hitting, etc or if there is a stalemate where they both are pulling and neither is giving in - in that case take away said toy and give them both something else. This has worked so far. You may want to get creative with teaching her that sharing is fun. She will never learn to share out of the goodness of her heart if it's imposed upon her - three years old is a little young for that concept, but she'll get the hang of it if she has a good experience with sharing. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 01:04 AM Flag
[ - ] really cant stand sil and mil. mil watches ds 2x/week and sleeps in our 2nd bedroom for those days. ds' crib is with us. is it normal for sil to come over and sleep over? and not just one day but 2 days? when she comes, she and mil just TAKE OVER - farting, burping too, like it's their home and i'm a visitor. it really pisses me off and i find it so rude. dh is clueless and just defends them. 13 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:22 PM Flag
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gross, do you need her to babysit? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:23 PM Flag
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i work full time and we have this arrangement - mil 2x, my mom 3x/week. i dont want to put ds in daycare yet. he's 8mo. sil doesnt come over much anymore, b/c i know i gave off a very annoyed vibe. but she's planning to make a visit this weekend, so i'm just venting and wondering if it's normal for SILs to come and sleep over... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:27 PM Flag
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op - venting some more - sil also comes w/ supplies for her mom. all these health foods for her for the 2 days, saying she's weak and needs her energy. she opens my fridge and stocks it up w/ energy drinks for her mom, etc. i also find that so invasive... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:31 PM Flag
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um, but she watches ds. why don't you hire someone. trouble w hiring family or friends... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:24 PM Flag
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how much do you pay mil? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:26 PM Flag
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not much at all. we're saving a lot. i'm ok w/ the arrangement and i'm just sucking it up having to have mil here those days. but just having the sil come too is what's firing me up... she's an adult so i dont know why she's got to do that. its not like we have a house and a guest room for her. it's really cramped... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:28 PM Flag
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I think you are lucky to have MIL who wants to watch your kid. You should take advantage of the night she stays over and go out with DH. Assume SIL is single? Not sure what is wrong with her visiting? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:30 PM Flag
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i know. i just have to deal and try to have a better attitude. thier rudeness and lack of manners is what bothers me. i know i'm lucky to have mil watch ds. we cant go out on those nights b/c she rests and goes to bed early. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:33 PM Flag
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the get the SIL to stay with dc when she comes to visit. take advantage of the situation and get some time out for yourself. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:37 PM Flag
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thats good advice. turning neg to a positive...thanks [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:23 PM Flag
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does sil ask if it's ok to sleepover? at some point the freeloading of younger siblings changes from sibling camaraderie to plain mooching. dh kind of does it to his brother, assumes it's always ok to crash over there, or bring the children there, have sil watch the kids for him... it embarasses me and i'm constantly reminding him they have their own lives too and are busy with their own children. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:36 PM Flag
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sil used to call and ask me, now bypasses me and just asks her bro. he runs it by me, and i dont object... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:24 PM Flag
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your husband is a puss and why don't you take care of your child yourself instead of giving him over to people you think are rude and boorish? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 01:06 AM Flag
[ - ] how can i tell if the bites i have on my legs are from mosquitos or bed bugs? 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:18 PM Flag
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if you have bedbugs look on your sheets and you will see small brown spots, if you don't see spots then it's mosquito's [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:21 PM Flag
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dark sheets - so how can i tell? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:26 PM Flag
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bedbug bites tend to be in a straight line. mosquito bites are more random. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:52 PM Flag
[ - ] Am I not supposed to be giving my 18 mos soy milk? 11 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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New York City 07.22.08, 06:14 PM Flag
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who says? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:16 PM Flag
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OP: Someone posted on my neighborhood list serve that soy is not good for young children because of the high estrogen content. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:21 PM Flag
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I never heard that but ask your pediatrician if you are really conserned [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:22 PM Flag
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concerned (sp?) oops [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:22 PM Flag
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i've heard this too-just talk to your ped about this [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:22 PM Flag
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All things in moderation. It's okay now and then, but ask your ped. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:31 PM Flag
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I dunno, halfway around the world in China most all babies drink it pretty early on... it's the same stuff as tofu. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:22 PM Flag
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been giving dd aoy since i weaned her at 12 mos. dr. says it is fine... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:29 PM Flag
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You might do some research on that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:32 PM Flag
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research on cow's milk is just as bad and it gives her stomoch probs. she is healthy and happy w soy, so am i. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:34 PM Flag
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For me, the thing with cow's milk is that hormones/chemicals can be avoided if you buy organic. Not so with soy milk: the photo-estrogen is part of the product and builds up overtime. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:40 PM Flag
[ - ] 4:30pm on the B train, I'm at the end of the car with 8mo in stroller and 3yo on two seater with me. (I try to situate myself at the end of the cars so my stroller doesn't block the flow.) A fat lady gets on, sits her butt on the handrail right next to 3yo dd. Then she offers to hold dd in her lap so her fat self can sit in her seat instead. I switched seats with dd so that fat lady would have to sit her butt next to me instead. Fat lady didn't have much room anymore so gets up, still miffed that I wouldn't let her sit & hold dd. Then another fat lady across from me says that I should hold dd in my lap and give up dd's seat for passengers. Was I unreasonable in not giving up my two seats in the corner or was I simply being attacked by resentful fat ladies? 97 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:09 PM Flag
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You should have the two seats - F those ladies. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:11 PM Flag
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i don't think you should have given up seats, though technically you are supposed to fold up stroller. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:11 PM Flag
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8mo sitting in stroller, I try to fold up stroller when I can, but then I'd have to hold 8mo AND stroller AND deal w/3yo's incessant needs. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:13 PM Flag
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sling or bjorn db. totally doable (and yes, have btdt) and set limits with older dc so his incessant needs don't bother you. but you have to expect a little attitude if you take subway at rush hr with unfolded stroller. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:15 PM Flag
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well, ergo was used half the time (going down stairs), but it's very hot and 8mo can't stand the ergo after about 5 stops. we were going from grand street to 109th, it was a long ride and when we started out, barely anyone in the car. The rush starts around West 4th upwards. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:19 PM Flag
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Not on the subway... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:47 PM Flag
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actually, you are supposed to fold it on subway. look at mta website. it is rarely enforced though [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 04:35 AM Flag
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I would have either folded the stroller and held the baby, or left the baby in the stroller and held the 3 y/o. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:13 PM Flag
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to what end? she was a party of 3 taking up 2 seats. folding the stroller and having the baby on her lap wouldn't free up any seats, and would provide only marginal additional standing space. op already worked out the best place in the car to park the stroller so it wouldn't be in anyone's way. the fat lady was rude, pure and simple [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:04 PM Flag
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That fat lady was trying to get some relief on a crowded train. OP's kids had to share a handrail??? How unforgivable. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:09 PM Flag
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?? you mean the 3yo and the 8 MONTH old? how exactly would sharing the handrail work? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:11 PM Flag
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I wasn't there--ask OP. I am forever having people lean in on that handrail when I'm sitting there and somehow I deal with it. I just don't get OP's outrage, I guess. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:16 PM Flag
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OP: there is leaning, which happens often in crowded trains, and there is literal sitting. Fat women was sitting, and looking to slide down into dd's seat. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:17 PM Flag
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Maybe fat woman was actually leaning but seemed like sitting because of all the excess flesh on her bottom. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:20 PM Flag
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What does one leg swinging freely off the ground mean - leaning or sitting? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:24 PM Flag
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And fat lady's pocketbook was resting on her lap? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:26 PM Flag
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where are you reading outrage? op asked "was i unreasonable in not giving up my two seats . . ." [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:20 PM Flag
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she's not taking about the handrail above shoulder length. she's talking about the curved rail at the side of the actual seat. the fatty was sitting that rail -- so literally sitting on top of her daughter. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:22 PM Flag
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...who paid one fare and is pissed someone who paid one fare wants a seat? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 07:13 AM Flag
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you were NOT out of line, kids deserve a seat too! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:15 PM Flag
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I had an incident on the bus the other day. My 4 yo is very clumsy and falls down a lot. We got on the bus and there was 1 empty seat so I told ds to sit there and I stood next to him. Then this fat woman sitting across the aisle starts lecturing me that I should sit and let dc stand since he will take up less room in the aisle and it will teach him to be a gentleman by standing. When I mentioned that I wanted him to sit for safety reasons she then starts this tyraid about kids needing spankings etc. She kept talking at meet and wouldn't shut up even though I was completely ignoring her (and ds who wasn't saying anything was looking at her confused and bewildered) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:49 PM Flag
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What's up with fat women wanting to cajole and position other people's children? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:01 PM Flag
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don't comment on others when you don't even know how to spell. "tyraid" [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 09:01 PM Flag
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wow! I always let kids, preg. women elderly sit before I do. If nothing else, it's a safety issue. People who are less able to move quickly should be out of the way of the stampede of a disaster. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 06:08 AM Flag
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You sound so understanding. Maybe the woman needed to sit down. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:50 PM Flag
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perhaps, but if one really needs to sit down, getting on a subway train during rush hour at rock center is not the place. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:58 PM Flag
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And OP's excuse for bringing a double stroller on the subway at rush hour is what? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:00 PM Flag
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where did she say it was a double? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:02 PM Flag
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You presume too much, there was no double stroller, lightweight single that I have specifically for subway rides. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:02 PM Flag
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Sorry--I read "two seater" as double stroller. Question remains: why was OP entitled to her PITA trip at rush hour when overweight woman was not? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:03 PM Flag
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op's pita trip didn't keep the fat lady from having her trip. why should the fat lady be entitled to op's seat? if op had skipped the trip altogether, the fat lady still would have been standing, as the two-seater would have been occupied before she got on no matter what (which we know because if the train wasn't already crowded she wouldn't have been left trying to squeeze on top of a rail in the first place [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:07 PM Flag
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I think people who get the seats first are entitled to stay in their seats unless they volunteer to give it up. There is no rule that riders are obligated to give up seats for fat women. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:07 PM Flag
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Or for toddlers. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:08 PM Flag
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do oyu not grasp that the toddler was in the seat already? nobody gave up a seat for the child. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:10 PM Flag
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I do grasp that, which is why I don't understand OP's problem. She had the seat. She kept the seat. What's the problem? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:17 PM Flag
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OP didn't have the problem, she kept her seats. Fat women had the problem, they were pressuring her to give up a seat. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:18 PM Flag
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You must be fat if you are using the term 'overweight', that's why you are defending the fatty. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:29 PM Flag
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np: you women are ridiculous. you always feel the best way to insult another woman is to call her fat. not sure how girth came into play in this story. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 09:07 PM Flag
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over 20 years in nyc subways i can say that fatties usually want to sit - all that weight can be exhausting. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 08:30 AM Flag
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There are several groups who will stampede you for a seat. The overweight are not the first (or second or third...) to come to mind. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 02:25 PM Flag
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are you insane? if she "needed" to sit, she should have asked, rather than pulling the passive-aggressive sitting on the rail shit [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:01 PM Flag
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a 3 year old can stand between your legs. children should give up their seat to elders. (only exception: if child is so tired/sick (s)he's falling asleep.) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:03 PM Flag
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stroller was between my legs. and yes, after a full day at school, walking to subway in this heat, waiting for 2-3 D trains to pass before a B finally pulls in (as it happens every afternoon), 3yo is TIRED, so am I. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:10 PM Flag
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why didn't you put 3yo on your lap if the 8mo was in the stroller? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:12 PM Flag
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stroller was between her legs [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:13 PM Flag
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how would putting the 3yo on her lap help the fatty anyway? she wouldn't have fit into 1/2 a two-seater. op would have been mashed into 1/4 of a seat with 3 people -- to accommodate one rude pig [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:15 PM Flag
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Do you actually take the subway in NYC or any other city? 3 year olds don't have the balance or strength of grip to stand on a moving subway. Seats should be given up to elderly, disabled, pregnant, and moms juggling 2+ little kids. Sorry, first come first served as to any others. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 09:25 PM Flag
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ita! why is dc not worthy of the seat she is already in? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 06:26 PM Flag
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sorry, I don't think small children should stand. I give up my seat for elderly, preg. etc. I do put my small child on my lap on a crowded train. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 06:11 AM Flag
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regardless of the stroller, the fat bitch was looking for a seat and wanted to make you feel guilty. This is New York, Not Kansas, you don't have to be polite. I know I'll get flamed for that but hey, its true. Screw her, don't give it a second thought. Her saying she'd put dd on lap is ludicrus. She was looking to sit her fat ass down at any cost. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:04 PM Flag
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And OP was not looking to get a seat at any cost and make the fat lady feel guilty? Please. There are only so many seats--sometimes someone has to stand. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:07 PM Flag
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?? she got that seat when the train was empty. she didn't like a huge fat chick sitting on her kid -- i think that would annoy you too, no? i imagine if the fat chick had been a little less over-the-top-rude in the first place, maybe op would have shifted her 3yo as a matter of course. (of course her reward would then have been being squeezed into 1 third or less of a 2-seater with 2 children) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:09 PM Flag
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I'm always annoyed when people enter my space (such as it is) on the subway, but my highest level of annoyance is reserved for parents who bring kids on trains at rush hour--unless going to/from school or daycare. Maybe OP was, but I don't know. Just as I don't know whether the fat lady was ill. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:12 PM Flag
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OP said they were coming from school. but who are you to judge the necessity of others' trips? maybe you should linger an hour later at work to reduce the rush hour load. do you really NEED to get home right away? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:17 PM Flag
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LOL--and who are you to judge whether or not this woman really needed a seat? Are you for real? You can judge others but no one can judge you? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:21 PM Flag
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how am i judging whether she needed a seat? i'm judging her rude behavior in sitting on a child just because she could, rather than expressing any actual ned she might have had. were YOU the fatty on the train? why are you her champion? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:23 PM Flag
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I'm not her champion as much as I'm trying to be a voice of dissension in this crazy mob. It's funny to me that so many of the people here who are outraged by the "fat lady's" behavior will post tomorrow (or the next day) about how no one gave them a seat on the subway when they were pregnant. Guess why? Because so many women just look fat when they're pregnant! Maybe if we were all a little more understanding of other people on the train, it would be better for everyone. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:26 PM Flag
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see next-to-last-post. i was on on subway and needed a seat, so i asked for one. there's no need to be understanding of of someone either passive-aggressively or merely uncaringly crushing a child. you need to sit, ask to sit. maybe if people didn't take their annoyance at a random parent they think has taken something they deserve out on a child it would be better for everyone [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:31 PM Flag
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if the fat lady was ill she should have said something -- not taken it upon herself to sit on top of a child just because she could. she wasn't shy about asking to hold a stranger's child on her lap -- if she had a need she could have mentioned it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:18 PM Flag
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For Chrsit sake its the NYC Subway, do you really have a choice at being COMFORTABLE on the train?? Where are you from Alaska? Sh$t happens you move on, end of discussion [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:12 PM Flag
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stop dissecting my post . .Jesus you need to chill. Read it as you will. I'm simply saying the fat lady was wrong. and NO OP wasn't trying to make her feel guilty for HAVING a seat. Fatty was putting on the guilt trip [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:09 PM Flag
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Heaven forfend I should actually respond to your post! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:12 PM Flag
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OP was there first- First come first serve! besides I have a huge issue with all the fat asses and the way they always force themselves into a seat and then spread their behinds gradually over two seats squeezing all remaining passengers. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:15 PM Flag
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ITA. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:17 PM Flag
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Fat lady was trying to guilt OP into giving up the seat since she was an easy target. I'm sure there were plenty of other strapping young men in other seats who were even better candidates for giving up their seats, but she was not targetting them because OP was presumed to be more likely to fall for it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:12 PM Flag
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Aren't those 2 seaters the ones you're supposed to give up for people who are sick/disabled? Maybe the fat lady was (and was trying to accomodate both her need to sit and OP's kids). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:14 PM Flag
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you are so PC that is what is wrong with society. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:15 PM Flag
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That's where we disagree. I think people calling other people "fat lady" is what's wrong with society. OP is looking for confirmation that she wasn't acting in her own self-interest. She was. Own it and get over it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:18 PM Flag
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Ok fatty [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:20 PM Flag
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No indication of that in OP's post. FWIW, I have found that people who are disabled (or at least think they are more disabled than you are) tend to tell you so directly and ask for the seat. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:16 PM Flag
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how the f%$#k do you know my situation?being fat doesn't entitle you to a seat on the nyc subway [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:18 PM Flag
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once when i was pregnant and standing on the subway i suddenly felt like i was going to puke/faint (equally) if i didn't get my head between my knees immediately. i asked the person sitting in front of me if i could have their seat, and they gave it to me. that's how it works. you don't just sit on someone's small child because you decide you want to. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:26 PM Flag
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I seriously doubt that was the case. I believe the woman was just fat and too lazy to stand. Might do her good actually, standing up burns more calories. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:19 PM Flag
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you paid for 1 seat and took 3 spots. you should have held 3 yo on your lap. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:36 PM Flag
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you don't pay for a seat, you pay for a trip. the seats are nice if you can get them, but they're not an entitlement that comes with your fare [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:40 PM Flag
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you have never riddent he NYC subway. Talk to the hand cause you are just typing foolishness [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:41 PM Flag
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What's the point of mentioning the women's weights? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 08:32 PM Flag
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What's with all the fat bashing? You can make your point without it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 08:34 PM Flag
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I hope one day you get to be fat. And if not, I hope you get to be old and stand on the subway ride. You are such a jerk! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 08:45 PM Flag
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if i'm fat one day i will not be expecting others to let me hold their child so i can take the kid's seat. that's ridiculous. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 08:32 AM Flag
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FWIW, if a child is 3+, I think they should give up their seats to adults, and especially older adults, if this lady was one. I'd probably make my child get on my lap... but that's just me. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 09:04 PM Flag
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OP, for some reason you need justification for your actions. Mean fatties tried to snag your seat. You seem very insecure. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 09:17 PM Flag
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^ I'd probably say look at that white trash dragging her kids through the heat from crappy LES up to Harlem. Where is there a full day of school for a 3 year old and 8 month old? Where is this full day school in August? If you can't stand being near people, maybe you should splurge and take a cab next time. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 09:19 PM Flag
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not white, 3yo in daycare, i can stand to be near people, people who insist upon others for a seat should be the ones to opt for cabs. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 08:28 AM Flag
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then stay in your own neighborhood and you won't have to commute [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 01:48 PM Flag
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I guess I'm in the minority here, but I always put my child on my lap on the bus when it gets crowded and I would do the same on the subway. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 06:45 AM Flag
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"Young enough to ride for free, young enough to take a knee." That was the motto when I was a kid. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 07:11 AM Flag
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this is getting kind of ugly. Sounds like the overweight person wanted a seat like everyone else on the train, but once she got it she really wanted TWO seats (which she would have if OP let her hold her child). She got up because she couldn't get two seats together for one person. So yes, OP and her two kids [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 10:14 AM Flag
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were taking up room, but the reality is that one woman+one toddler+one infant+one stroller is best managed as the OP did it [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 10:15 AM Flag
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two kids mean a lot of junk to lug around. skinny little fold-up strollers have no accessory bag. where's at bag of kid's and mom's stuff supposed to sit, on the infant's lap? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 06:44 PM Flag
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Fat people should have to pay double fare on the subway and still never be allowed to sit. Nothing I hate more than an entitled fat person. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 02:21 PM Flag
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Airlines charge extra for POS (Persons of Size). But then they sell seats and not rides. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 02:54 PM Flag
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Would you be so outraged if this were a thin person? i really don't see why her being fat has anything to do with your reaction. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 06:38 PM Flag
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cuz fat people tend to do this sort of thing, squeeze against other people and think nothing of it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 06:46 PM Flag
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no, everyone does this on crowded public transportation. you think nothing of it when a thin person does this. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 06:52 PM Flag
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A thin person can be obnoxious and try to spread their legs wide to take a 2 seats, but a good subtle shove or elbow usually gets them to move over. Can't do that with a morbidly obese person who is half in your seat since there's is nowhere else for the flesh to go. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 07:08 PM Flag
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thin or fat, it doesn't matter, it's annoying. but gotta say, the fatter the buttock, the more in-your-face (literally) the gesture it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 06:47 PM Flag
[ - ] Please recommend a good family vacation for a few nights on the beach in NJ or CT- fairly close (within 2 hours) from NYC. TIA! 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 07.22.08, 06:02 PM Flag
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LBI (in NJ) is great. So is Cape May, NJ, but it would take closer to 3 hours from the city. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:00 PM Flag
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i second cape may . .worth the extra 40 minute drive. Lots to do for everyone [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:01 PM Flag
[ - ] So our a/c is broken, getting fixed tomorrow, we had to go out to dinner; me, dh, ds (4), ds (1). Ds (4) is acting up horribly in resto, not staying in seat, not eating, not listening; then starts waving hand in front of my face, poking me on shoulder. Was asked to stop, was reprimanded repeatedly...finally, as he was waving his hand in front of my face yet again, I lost control -- and bit his finger. I have never felt worse in my life. I am totally not about corporal punishment, was spanked as a kid and vow never to do that. I feel terrible. 9 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:02 PM Flag
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I nearly slapped my dd's face yesterday, so I think your behavior was actually kind of restrained. She's adorable but really knows how to push my buttons, and the backtalk & misbehavior was just too much. Give yourself a break. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:08 PM Flag
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OP: Oh bless you. I've been really beating myself up over it. Believe me when I tell it you it was deserved, but I was still disappointed in myself for snapping. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:09 PM Flag
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the only reason I didn't slap DD was it was in front of kids and parents...but, honestly, when we got outside I grabbed her arm very firmly and kind of shook her, I was enraged. I'm vowing to play it cool next time b/c my losing it didn't help, but it's easier said than done [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:13 PM Flag
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OP: Totally, that's partly why I'm so upset w/myself. That kind of thing *never* works with my kid, nor does yelling at him. Remaining unflappable is always the best, but, as you say, easier said than done. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:16 PM Flag
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just make sure he gets a tetanus shot joke:) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:09 PM Flag
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OP: so as we're leaving the resto this old couple leans over and says "what did you do to him?" jokingly, as he's crying and visibly upset. My dh doesn't miss a beat and says, "Oh, we bit him!" [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:15 PM Flag
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reminding them who's boss isn't a bad thing. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:16 PM Flag
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I bit dd once. She was on a biting rampage and I finally bit her back in the middle of a store. She cried, I cried out of guilt. It solved nothing. But just wanted you to know you're not the only one. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:23 PM Flag
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your kid is not ready to be in a restaurant - I suggest you figure out how to better handle that and when he's pushing your buttons so when he does, you don't do something like that again [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 01:10 AM Flag
[ - ] grammar moms (or anyone that speaks good english) please help, does this sound good: 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 05:58 PM Flag
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Allows to undo "Close Tab" [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 05:59 PM Flag
[ - ] Did you ever have a varicose vein removed? How painful/long is recovery? Procedure scheduled for tomorrow. 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 05:54 PM Flag
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dh had it done twice - the last time it was nothing - so easy we hardly knew he had a procedure done. It looks great too gl [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 05:59 PM Flag
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