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[ - ] Do you have an 8 y.o. or older? Would you ever leave your 8 y.o. in charge of your 5 y.o. and 2 y.o. to drive 4 miles down the road, pick up lunch and drive back? 18 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:28 AM Flag
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nope [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:29 AM Flag
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no, I would take them with me. Might leave 8yo alone for that period of time, but not as a babysitter [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:30 AM Flag
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of course not [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:31 AM Flag
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No. And God forbid something happens, this is child neglect based on state LAW (most states age is 13 to be left alone). So in addition to whatever trauma/accident was experienced, you might have a run in with child and family services. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:32 AM Flag
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op: wow - i wouldn't leave the 8 y.o. myself (was wondering if i was paranoid) but i babysat regularly starting at age 11. 13 seems extreme. i'll have to check into our state law. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:34 AM Flag
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I babysat at 11 too [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:35 AM Flag
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I just researched it for 2 min...CA and NY do not have minimum age laws. Although consensus appears to be 12. I know that NC is 13. Here is a brief article from Syracuse NY about couple arrested for leaving three children at home and oldest was 9. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:54 AM Flag
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http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2008/06/scriba_couple_leaves_three_you.html [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:55 AM Flag
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np: that does not mention a legal minimum on age to be left alone. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 10:04 AM Flag
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there isn't one in NY [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 10:04 AM Flag
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did you read the post preceding the link? I said, NY and CA do not have minimum ages to be left alone in state law. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 10:11 AM Flag
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Depends on maturity of the kid. I've left my oldest dd in charge of her brother starting at that age while I run across the street to the Deli but she is a remarkably calm kid & they are both watching TV anyway. Can you trust that the 8 yo will really be watching the 2 yo? Why don't you just take the baby & leave the other two? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:33 AM Flag
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OP: i'm not considering doing it - was just wondering what others thought. i'm way too paranoid - what if i got into an accident while driving? that kind of worry. i have left my 8 and 5 y.o. alone while i walked the dog. i didn't feel relaxed, though. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:35 AM Flag
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what did you do with the 2 yo? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:36 AM Flag
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in the stroller with me [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:37 AM Flag
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Never ever. I'd have my lunch delivered or else I'd open up cans from my emergency evacuate Manhattan bag if I had too if no food was in the house. Otherwise try Fresh Direct or similar food delivery service. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 10:08 AM Flag
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woah...can you tell us about your "evacuate Manhattan bag"...sounds fascinating. Please tell! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 10:11 AM Flag
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lol... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 10:12 AM Flag
[ - ] Anyone go to Lily Hanna for Ob/Gyn??? 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:23 AM Flag
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I went to her once at her 57th St practice and will not be back. She was nice enough, though a little condescending, during the exam, but the nurse who took my blood did not say one word to me and left me bruised for days. But the reason I'm really unhappy with her is that two weeks after my exam I was having horrible side effects from the birth control she put me on. I called about 5 times over the course of a week and a half, and I still have not gotten a call back from her. The receptionist repeatedly told me she would call me back and then told me at one point she would call in a new prescription for me. That never happened. I'm now forced to go to a new gynecologist just to get one prescription written. I'm going to try to get my medical records from Dr. Hanna's office so I don't have to have a 2nd annual exam in 2 months, but I'm not hopeful that her office will be able to provide them. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 10.21.09, 01:16 PM Flag
[ - ] I'm experiencing prenatal movement way before the books (ie. What to Expect When Expecting) say I should - Baby movements frequent by end of 16th week and book says I should begin to feel them by the end of the 20th. Is it possible my OBGYN (whom is with good UWS office) has the conception date a month off ??? 18 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:20 AM Flag
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are you thin? is this your first pregnancy? thin women often feel movement sooner, as do women in subsequent pregnancies. doubtful that conception date could be off by a full month. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:21 AM Flag
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i felt it really early (like 15 wks) w/#2 and fairly early with #1. the book is designed to make people who don't feel it feel calm [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:22 AM Flag
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thank you to both responses - I am average weight 5'7 at 126 now, just concerned because of the timeframe (if you understand what I mean) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:25 AM Flag
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or: btw, that is thing - not average weight! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:31 AM Flag
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np: no kidding - OP doesn't think she is considered thin???? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:32 AM Flag
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>>> thin [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:32 AM Flag
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you are thin. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:33 AM Flag
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ok, thank you all! don't worry I don't have an image problem... just very small boned, promise. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:36 AM Flag
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are you saying there is a paternity issue?!? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:35 AM Flag
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yes, DH and I like to get with a dear friend when he comes to town... happens once in a blue moon... We told the OBGYN about this at our visit (without providing any timeframe or dates at all before her giving the conception date). The conception date checked out that it was ours - imagine our joy! but, just wanted to make sure... perhaps too late now but really want child w DH and not at all with DF. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:39 AM Flag
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this must be fake. "imagine our joy!" if you didn't want a dc with DF you would have used birth control. and you and DH told ob all this?!? fake, fake, fake. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:42 AM Flag
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you're crazy [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:42 AM Flag
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she's kidding, people. wake up. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:57 AM Flag
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lol, my exact height and weight (well, WAS), felt DB at something crazy early like 12 or 13 weeks, ppl didn't totally believe me but it kept up and now my whole stomach moves! And we got pg on purpose, date of conception sure. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:58 AM Flag
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not fake or kidding. Couples other than yourselves, successful couples that I am sure you know, have very happy lives that include adventure all the time. It was the first thing we told the OB, together, why wouldn't we? BC was used; but you know with contraception, sometimes a pregnancy happens. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 10:08 AM Flag
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what is WAS? how exciting!! - does it hurt or is it just really interesting? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 10:09 AM Flag
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How many weeks are you? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 10:10 AM Flag
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in my 17th [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 10:19 AM Flag
[ - ] help...need to wean 5 mo and she is totally refusing formula. tried different kinds, have tried mixing w/pumped milk, but nothing is working and i'm going nuts!! 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:19 AM Flag
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some babies hate the taste of formula (mine included) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:23 AM Flag
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so yours never took it? any tricks that you tried? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:26 AM Flag
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mine never took it. we ended up switching to diluted goat's milk at 7 months which was fine, but you have to be careful about dehydration. Moved to cow's milk and other liquids at 10.5mos [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:30 AM Flag
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why the urgency to wean? If going back to work can't you just pump? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:25 AM Flag
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multiple reasons, it's complicated... i want to wean at 6 mos, but want her to at least accept formula now. can't pump. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:26 AM Flag
[ - ] Can anyone explain how you apply to public middle schools (at least in Brooklyn). Do all schools admit you according to your test scores? Grades? 6 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 07.23.08, 09:06 AM Flag
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The system keeps changing, but it all happens during 5th grade. You tour middle schools and complete an application. You can apply to one of your district middle schools or a borough-wide program, usually those are for gifted and talented. There's usually a test score cut off for the best middle schools. Then, you rank the schools, and they accept based on test scores, schools grades, attendance. Hopefully dc gets first or 2nd choice. But in good elementary schools, the 5th graders get all kinds of guidance through this process, meetings for parents about this, etc., so it's not just up to you to figure out. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:16 AM Flag
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^^^also the gifted schools have their own acceptance, so you can be accepted to a good middle school in your district and also apply to a gifted one. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:17 AM Flag
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Any options for Brooklynites who want to go to middle school in Manhattan? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:32 AM Flag
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Hunter HS accepts kids for 7th grade. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:37 AM Flag
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OP: So grades don't matter, just test scores? So schools are completely tracked by testing ability? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 10:39 AM Flag
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No grades do matter -- the test scores are just a cut off, and aren't the basis of admission. But, it does seem as if the middle schools are tracked in a way. Kids who are stronger academically will be in the most desirable schools. For Hunter there's a separate test, and that is the sole basis of admission. I guess you can get bad grades and do well on the test and get in, although you have to get 4s on your 5th grade ELA/Math test in order to take the Hunter special test. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 02:30 PM Flag
[ - ] are there any free universal preK programs in manhattan. 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:05 AM Flag
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I believe so, check out the DOE website [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:11 AM Flag
[ - ] do all G&T programs start with K or do some (like at PS 9) start in preK? 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:03 AM Flag
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no G&T for Prek. Some schools start G&T at first or second some start K. I think most in Manhattan start at K. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:07 AM Flag
[ - ] friends' of ours just going through a hard time w/ their 3yo dc. he was in hosp. for 2 wks last month w/2 bacterial infections. i'm not even clear what exactly was wrong w/him (cause, etc)...BUT he was released from hosp. w/ a permanent IV line as he needs daily IV meds for 4+ weeks. During this time they took him to every public place you can imagine, including a ballpark TWO days after getting out of the hosp. Well he just developed a blood infection. Back in hosp. I'm having a hard time dealing w/this. Anger, judgement, etc. I know its wrong to judge them but I can't help it. So upset dc is sick again. Their values are so off, I don't feel like being friends w/them. Am I being a b*tch? 12 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:02 AM Flag
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^^sorry such a long post! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:03 AM Flag
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I've been in their position, so I can tell you that you 1) need to keep your feelings entirely to yourself, do not discuss them with anyone else and 2) try to be there for them if you can, without judgement, even if its only sending a note hopig their dc gets well soon. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:04 AM Flag
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op- sorry you went through this too. i'm doing all the above, minus discussing this w/my dh. i'm not proud of the fact i'm judging them, believe me. i just feel like i can't help it in this situation. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 10:35 AM Flag
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i can't imagine how painful it must have been for them to have their son in the hospital for that long, and not even know what is wrong with him. once he was out they probably wanted to celebrate a little and reward him for going through such a horrible ordeal. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:13 AM Flag
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op- i wish i could say they were going out to celebrate. the ball park was for dad, he's in a softball league. they weren't going to fun places for kids. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 10:32 AM Flag
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Just curious about the discharge directions. You assume he should have been home in bed but I wonder if that is necessarily true? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:33 AM Flag
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op- all i know, is that he had (and still does have) a pick (sp?) line in his arm, his vein. and that they had to give him iv meds through it every day. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 10:31 AM Flag
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np- That is a direct line into his vein. No wonder he got a blood infection. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 10:41 AM Flag
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np: i agree. i'm guessing he did not have to be home in bed. otherwise they would've kept him in the hospital. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 10:34 AM Flag
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i don't think he had to be home in bed, but not carted around to every public place their is. he was fed through IV for almost 2 wks (couldn't eat), he lost a bit of weight (for a 3yo) and was very weak. he looked visibly sick (and tired). when i saw him out i felt so sorry for him. imagine feeling horrible and being carted around to places you didn't want to go. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 10:38 AM Flag
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i think you are getting carried away with your assumptions. how do you know he didn't want to go. maybe it was a treat for him. or maybe not. either way, i think you don't think much of these people and are attributing things to them which have no basis. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 10:42 AM Flag
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op- you definitely have a point. might be a dealbreaker for me, as far as the friendship goes. i know i'm being judgemental and its not a good thing, but i refuse to think that its okay for parents to be so irresponsible w/their childs health. major surgery to remove tumor in lungs, out of the hospital in 4 days then 2 days later at a public arena w/germs all over the place...totally negligent. thats just me! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 01:04 PM Flag
[ - ] Has anyone ever been mistaken for another person? Happened to me today - I was waiting in line for coffee and this woman started talking with me as if she knew me - "Oh, I didnt' expect to see you here," "What are you doing downtown", etc. Then she said we should get together soon and asked me to give Robert her love... it all happened so fast and at first her questions were pretty generic, so I didn't have a chance to say anything... so bizarre. She seemed like a pretty "normal" person too (i.e. not a crazy who does this for fun or something) 8 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:02 AM Flag
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maybe you have a twin out there. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:05 AM Flag
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I guess so... weird! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:06 AM Flag
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ugh - i've been that person. not to that extreme but the whole waving and saying "hi!" only to realize the woman wasn't who i thought she was. so embarrassing. i wonder if that woman ever figured out she was mistaken. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:30 AM Flag
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lol, I doubt it... from the beginning to the air kiss at the end she seemed completely convinced that I was who she though... at first I thought maybe I knew her, but I don't know anyone named Robert! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:32 AM Flag
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until she tells a friend "i saw mary at starbucks!" and the friend says "you couldn't have - she and robert are on a cruise!" [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:36 AM Flag
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lol! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:37 AM Flag
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Not to that extreme, but I do get people thinking they've met me before when they haven't. And everyone seems to have a cousin who looks just like me. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:31 AM Flag
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op - I think I do kind of have one of those faces, but this was pretty extreme [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:32 AM Flag
[ - ] Private Preschool Q (Parents out of town in September): We are planning to get 2009 applications this coming September. We’ll be in the City during the first week of September, but plan to be out of town from the second week. I know we have to call schools to get applications the day after Labor Day, but do we need to stay around after that? Would leaving town around the 2nd week of September create a problem? Could not get advice from Parents League as it is closed for summer. Thanks. 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 07.23.08, 09:01 AM Flag
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I can help you. You need to call the schools the day after Labor Day and send in the applications soon after. They will then call you to schedule your interviews and you need to be around to schedule them. You can easily schedule them for after you are home, but I would check your home voice mail and return the calls from vacation. Bring a calendar so you can set up the appointments. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:04 AM Flag
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Thanks for your advice. We are planning to be in a jungle in Central America for a week - I’m afraid that we may not have good cell reception or landline to check messages. We have to think about postponing this trip. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 10:20 AM Flag
[ - ] how is New York Kids Club vs. Columbus pre-school and gym for gym/other activities for toddlers? thanks. 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 07.23.08, 08:59 AM Flag
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I am not sure (UES person) but I would definitely phone them each and try to get a trial class. Big City Moms often has trial classes too. I find most of these things are much of a muchness, but I love the gyms for wintertime. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:04 AM Flag
[ - ] Does any one have any good summer book recommendations? 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 08:55 AM Flag
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^^ I just read In The Woods, by Tara French. It was a good murder mystery/ page turner, if any one is interested in something like that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 08:56 AM Flag
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The Book Thief was amazing. I loved it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:00 AM Flag
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Would this be good for a 9yo? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:33 AM Flag
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The Art of Racing in the Rain [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:10 AM Flag
[ - ] any moms w/toddlers who still use a bottle for milk? older than 2? 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 08:54 AM Flag
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Katie Holmes [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 08:54 AM Flag
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why don't you just try switching to a sippy? Was an easy transition at 10mo, might be hard now at 2, but I would still try. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 08:56 AM Flag
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I do, but I try to be discreet. DS drinks milk from the bottle before bed, but drinks out of regular cups and sippy cups for other drinks all the time. I know it's bad, so no need to flame me. DS almost 3 now. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:02 AM Flag
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^^^also, we made the transition from bottle to cup for milk with older ds by putting chocolate milk in cup, but with very little chocolate, gradually decreasing the amount. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 09:03 AM Flag
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