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Dear UrbanBaby community,

Thank you so much for being a valued member of the UrbanBaby community. We wanted to inform you that we are shutting down the site on July 6th. We are grateful for your participation and support that has helped make UrbanBaby such an important resource to parents for many years.

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Thanks so much,

UrbanBaby Support

[ - ] What's another word for fashionista. Need something not so played out. 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:41 AM Flag
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fashion forward [ Reply | More
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style maven? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:43 AM Flag
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needs to be one word... [ Reply | More
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trendsetter? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:55 AM Flag
[ - ] what were your earliest pg symptoms with #2? 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:40 AM Flag
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Same as #1 lightheaded and exhausted [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:42 AM Flag
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was this early on? like before you tested +? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:42 AM Flag
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nausea and fatigue [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:44 AM Flag
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how early? before positive test? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:46 AM Flag
[ - ] Any Turner Syndrome moms on (i.e., moms w/ dds w/ TS)? 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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Special Needs 05.22.08, 10:38 AM Flag
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friend and colleague has turners [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:41 AM Flag
[ - ] How soon should I start looking for a nanny if I will need her in Sept/Oct? 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:38 AM Flag
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late Aug early Sept [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:41 AM Flag
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A good time to look is now. A lot of kids who will be starting school in Sept will have nannies who will need new jobs in the Fall. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:42 AM Flag
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board wh*re [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:46 AM Flag
[ - ] If you haven't updated the MASTER olsat/ranking list - please please do so! I am trying to figure out an "un-scientific" UB sample representation. Even if you didn't send back your form - please indicate district, gender, score and ranking or not send back! 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 05.22.08, 10:37 AM Flag
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99 boy - did not return form D2. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:38 AM Flag
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Do you know how many people are on UB? Maybe that's it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:38 AM Flag
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I don't - totally unscientific but trying to fill my time before the letters come! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:43 AM Flag
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Why do you care about gender? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:40 AM Flag
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She means sex. Gender has to do with manifestations of sex. Sex is female or male. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:44 AM Flag
[ - ] DH thinks we should get rid of our landline phone and just use our cells. Anyone btdt? I know it makes sense since we pay about $600/year but it just seems strange. 20 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:35 AM Flag
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If there is ever an emergency, the landline might be the only phone that works. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:37 AM Flag
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ITA I live in Miami..I lost my power for 15 days after hurricane..could not charge cell [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:38 AM Flag
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but who has a corded phone? Without power, only non-cordless phones work. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:46 AM Flag
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I do. after the blackout in 2003, I bought a corded phone at duane reade. works whenever the power is out. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:52 AM Flag
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You are a very rare and well prepared American. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 11:48 AM Flag
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I need a landline, just do. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:37 AM Flag
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kkep a very basic low cost plan on the landline. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:38 AM Flag
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yep, we are doing that. it's really fine [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:38 AM Flag
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we have no land line. works fine for us. only rarely do I wish I had a better connection with someone. I was worried when the babysitter came about no phone, but she has a cell, and I just make sure to leave her all our info and that she charge her phone before coming. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:38 AM Flag
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what if...she forgot to charge? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:39 AM Flag
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figure I could leave my cell phone, then dh would have his. Or I've thought about getting one of those pay as you use phones to have around [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:43 AM Flag
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I would feel better if babysitter had landline [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:41 AM Flag
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do you recall 9-11? don't do it [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:40 AM Flag
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Did land lines work then? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 11:01 AM Flag
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I lost my cell phone...that would have been even more annoying if I did not have a lnadline. Can't Lose your landline phone [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:41 AM Flag
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Dh and I only use cells. We've had no land line for 3 years and have never had a problem. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:58 AM Flag
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I insist on keeping a land line for the better connection and plus if there is no electricity it will work if you can't charge your cell phone. (Maybe I do have a bit of survivalist paranoia in me also.) Get the basic local plan - no long distance and it will run you about $20 - $25 a month. If you only have a cordless phone just buy the cheapest corded phone just to keep around and then it is available to use when there is no electricity. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 11:03 AM Flag
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^^^Use your cell phone for long distance calls or use one of those long distance plans where you have to dial a certain number first and it will be charged through your regular bill. Plus if you dial 911 from the land line it is easy for the operator to pinpoint your location and address for a quick response. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 11:06 AM Flag
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np: I have only cells. felt like spending 250-300 dollars/year on a just in case the electricity goes scenario as unnecessary. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 11:07 AM Flag
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If you rent your place I can see where it might not be worth it having a land line. I own my house and I want the quickest response in case there is an emergency. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 11:13 AM Flag
[ - ] for those of you who have renter's insurance, does it cover jewelry, like your engagement ring? 6 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:34 AM Flag
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good question [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:34 AM Flag
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I believe you pay extra for your jewelry [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:36 AM Flag
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not the basic policy. you can purchase a separate rider to cover specific big-ticket items. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:37 AM Flag
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this is correct. All homeowners policies work this way. there is a low limit on jewelry. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:38 AM Flag
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op: thanks for the info, everyone! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:40 AM Flag
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no, we had an extra rider for engagement ring [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:50 AM Flag
[ - ] i just clicked on a photo that i wish i hadn't...it's from the earthquake, showing rescuers pulling out young children of around 6 y/o, all dead. they all look like they are asleep. i can't stop crying. 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:33 AM Flag
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thanks for sharing [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:34 AM Flag
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poor little ones- but heart just breaks for them and their families [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:45 AM Flag
[ - ] For toddler - if money were no object, which would you do: Summer house; summer camp or country club? 17 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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New York City 05.22.08, 10:32 AM Flag
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country club with camp in the morning... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:33 AM Flag
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Summer house [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:41 AM Flag
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summer camp. at summer house or country club you still have to provide activities for the kids and not a real break for mom. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:33 AM Flag
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but country club has camp for tots starting at age 3, and has babysitting... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:34 AM Flag
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then you answered your question. Do you need to pay initiation fee? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:35 AM Flag
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Yes. $150k - [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:36 AM Flag
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now thats a horse of a different color [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:36 AM Flag
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I said, if money were no object. Think of it as money that could be spent on a house OR for a country club. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:39 AM Flag
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Is the country club all season? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:40 AM Flag
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all year [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:46 AM Flag
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the good thing about a club is it s social for everyone. bad thing, it has no resale value. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:49 AM Flag
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Neither do houses, apparently! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:51 AM Flag
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so the object of summer is to get rid of the kids? I did not know that [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:35 AM Flag
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Not at all. To relax and to have DS outside and having fun all day. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:35 AM Flag
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np--it is for me!!! 3 dcs..they get bored esp. since every other kid is in camp [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:36 AM Flag
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arent we talking about toddlers? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:40 AM Flag
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Oh..I didn't see that [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:42 AM Flag
[ - ] So he said his wife is an alcoholic whose life is too easy and that they are always fighting. 25 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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New York City 05.22.08, 10:31 AM Flag
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who said? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:32 AM Flag
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Affair/friend (Fraffair? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:33 AM Flag
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your lunch date? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:33 AM Flag
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lunch, dinner, drinks... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:34 AM Flag
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don't be stupid, he just wants to put in your butt [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:36 AM Flag
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wow, that's interesting. So far he just said he wanted to bite my ear, but I'll keep it in mind. LOL. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:36 AM Flag
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you should, home wrecking ho. i hope his wife is a violent crazy drunk who kicks your ass. or comes to your building and pushes all the buttons on your intercom and screams to your neighbors that there is a whore in their building. team drunk wife. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:46 AM Flag
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You are a wacko, I will send her to your house instead. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:50 AM Flag
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good. we can get drunk and come kick your ass together. seriously though, step away from the married man. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:52 AM Flag
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He can make his own choices, you know...I can't force him. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:55 AM Flag
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force him to do what? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:57 AM Flag
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cheat. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 12:00 PM Flag
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you'd be an alcoholic, too, if you were married to him [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:37 AM Flag
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Could very well be. Could be. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:38 AM Flag
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ITA. I hate men who feel the need to bash their wives as part of their seduction routine. Man up and just admit you are a horny fucker and can't keep it in your pants. End of story. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:52 AM Flag
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AMEN! Maybe his wife IS a bitch to him. Maybe she senses his detachment and skirt chasing and is DONE w/ him. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:53 AM Flag
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Don't worry, it's the day after and he's totally forgotten me. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:54 AM Flag
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Admitted. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:53 AM Flag
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Just like an a-hole to say his wife's life is "too easy". [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:52 AM Flag
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He probably is a total jerk but the attention, when I get it, is intoxicating. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:53 AM Flag
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I wouldn't believe it, they will say anything to try to make you feel okay with the situation [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:56 AM Flag
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I told him to go back to her and be nice to her. He seemed super, super annoyed. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:47 AM Flag
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So, what do you think he'll start saying about you when he tires of you and starts looking for another mistress? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 11:09 AM Flag
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He probably already has. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 11:59 AM Flag
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I just hate when he is all there one day and *poof* nothing the next. I hate how crazy I get. And that's when I ask myself, is this really worth it?? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 12:01 PM Flag
[ - ] Going out with friends tonight for drinks but running 10 miles in the morning. How bad would it be to have a glass or 2 of wine tonight? 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:31 AM Flag
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10 miles? wow -- i'm impressed.. stick to club soda and you'll be happier in the morning [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:32 AM Flag
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that would kill my run. Ok if i am doing only 3 miles anything over 5 miles, I don;t drink the night before [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:33 AM Flag
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drink Friday night. You will kill your run if you drink tonight. BTDT with an 18 miler [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:34 AM Flag
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I can drink a glass or 2 before running unless I am running a marathon. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:34 AM Flag
[ - ] Got my DOE letter. DS got into Anderson with a 97! no sib 8 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 05.22.08, 10:29 AM Flag
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excellent. are they planning on having ds skip k too? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:31 AM Flag
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how original [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:32 AM Flag
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At least say 98 to make it interesting. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:36 AM Flag
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I got mine, too. We missed the OLSAT because we were vacationing in Los Cabos, and the DOE has agreed to let DCs (boy and girl twins) enter Anderson next fall as a courtesy. Took them long enough! It's May for God's sake! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 11:00 AM Flag
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how do you know when a post is from? no date on it? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 11:29 AM Flag
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I call BS. You can't get into any NYC public school gifted program without taking the OLSAT. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 11:32 AM Flag
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Yes, the DOE are very accomodating. They guaranteed my boy and girl twins a spot in utero--As long as they score 9 or above on their Apgars I just need to send their birth certificates in when they are born and they are all set. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 11:48 AM Flag
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Got my DOE letter. Anderson was full so they got my DD a spot at Hunter. How nice! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 11:45 AM Flag
[ - ] 11 mo db should I stay with pampers cruisers or switch to baby dry? 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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New York City 05.22.08, 10:29 AM Flag
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try them. see if you like them. I dont really notice a difference. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:32 AM Flag
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i've stuck with cruisers. but never tried baby dry. dd is recently 2 btw. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:50 AM Flag
[ - ] Grrrrrr. Finally started getting my butt back to the gym -- brought my 2yo DD to the tot drop and when I picked her up, someone swiped her adorable raincoat (I know b.c my hoodie was on a hook and covering her jacket) and she threw her bow somewhere... 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:29 AM Flag
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Stuff like that sucks. I finally got my 20mo kind of used to the babysitting...then some other kid bit him on the cheek. So now mine screams if we go near the place. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:29 AM Flag
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I would never use the babysitting at the gym. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:31 AM Flag
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why not? do you work out at home? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:32 AM Flag
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I don't work out at all, just do a ton of walking. Even at our expensive local place the babysitting room is kind of gross, and the help seems moronic (and you never know who is at the gym.) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:39 AM Flag
[ - ] sigh..early puberty is NOT from non-organic milk 43 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:27 AM Flag
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Why sigh? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:28 AM Flag
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because that subject comes up ALL the time here..in earlier post today [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:29 AM Flag
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A substance given to cows to increase milk production, called recombinant bovine growth hormone, became a prime suspect. But Dr. Paul Kaplowitz, the author of "Early Puberty in Girls," said that the hormone, if it did make its way into milk, would have no effect. It must be injected, not digested, he said. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:29 AM Flag
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So what does he think causes early puberty? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:30 AM Flag
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A study published in 2001, led by Dr. Kaplowitz, showed that girls who developed sooner tended to have higher body-mass indexes. It also said that the findings of the early puberty study coincided with a rise in nationwide rates of obesity. THE BOTTOM LINE - Bovine growth hormones are not connected to the early onset of puberty in girls. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:31 AM Flag
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my sisters had early puberty but were skinny [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:42 AM Flag
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during the non growth hormone era [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:43 AM Flag
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when did the era begin? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:46 AM Flag
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a student I worked with also had early puberty and so skinny [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:46 AM Flag
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Do you know when the student's mother first got her period? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:53 AM Flag
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I agree and I've said that on UB over & over again. Early puberty has to do with weight, race, genetics mostly [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:33 AM Flag
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so how does one explain the general rise in early puberty? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:40 AM Flag
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np: I am going to go out on a limb and say it is correlated to the rise in obesity [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:41 AM Flag
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and so how do you explain the rise of early puberty in all the non-obese children who have early puberty? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:42 AM Flag
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she also said race and genetics; if it's not a high bmi, it's one of those [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:45 AM Flag
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right but race and genetics have been around a long time. What explains the "rise"of early puberty? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:50 AM Flag
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np: I'd honestly like to see a very long term, multi generational study of menarche ages. My grandmother got her period at age 9. I doubt there was race specific studies done in the 1920's or earlier of menarche. Also, you have to remember that many kids are much better nourished these days than in the past, and that can contribute to earlier menarche. It's not just obesity, it's better nutrition over all. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:56 AM Flag
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They've seen early puberty in girls who had been adopted internationally too. Its not due to obesity. Maybe tied to sudden better nutrition and rapid growth right after adoption. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:44 AM Flag
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it can be however, not solely - geez can ppl read? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:45 AM Flag
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Duh, Im just adding another angle- nutrition [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:48 AM Flag
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There's also a study which said that girls who live with non-related males have early onset of puberty. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:55 AM Flag
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In the US, a lot of researchers think it is big rise in Hispanic population, since Hispanic girls tend to get their periods earlier. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:51 AM Flag
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fatness causes it, bluntly put [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:41 AM Flag
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and what causes fatness? drinking milk? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:56 AM Flag
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So if early puberty is caused by obesity or greater body mass, and we are pumping cows full of growth hormones and eating their meat and drinking their milk, there is absolutely no link? I wonder if the milk industry really expects us to trust their studies that say there is no link. Well, at least we have the FDA to tell us the truth. Oh, hey no. Not so much, since they are controlled by the industries they are supposed to regulate. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:55 AM Flag
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I have read that homogenized milk is another reason for childhood obesity in this country. It's the milk equivalent of transfats in our bodies - they break up the fat molecules to keep the milk from separating into cream and skim. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:57 AM Flag
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there is no way that our bodies do well with the amount of dairy, refined sugar and transfats that most people are getting now [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 11:02 AM Flag
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True. But I can barely afford organic milk these days, no way can I afford to feed two kids Ronnybrook milk. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 11:03 AM Flag
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maybe we should just cut down on milk [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 11:06 AM Flag
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Maybe. But I thought that people drank more milk in say the 40s and 50s than they do now (because milk was much cheaper than meat at the time). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 11:08 AM Flag
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I think if you looked at the diets of people in the 40's and 50's it would be so much healthier than what we eat now. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 11:09 AM Flag
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I think you have no idea of knowing what the average person from all socioeconomic classes ate, nor does there a exist a comprehensive race/class study of menarche from those time periods. You are just spouting off opinions that have no factual basis. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 11:14 AM Flag
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oh, okay. There is no way of knowing that they didn't eat a bunch of processed foods? You don't think I know what kind of foods my grandmothers cooked? How they ate from their own gardens? Alright then. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 11:17 AM Flag
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My grandmother served only vegetables from cans, because she thought it was more "hygienic," just like the TV ads told her. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 11:18 AM Flag
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not mine. And there was a time before canning too. Our diets have changed enormously in the last 100 years, in some ways better, in some ways much worse. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 11:20 AM Flag
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But you were talking like everyone was like your grandmothers. They weren't. Some people were really into prepared foods, it was a sign of progress and prosperity. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 11:22 AM Flag
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Well, now you are looking from the perspective of someone w/ a frezzer and fresh veggies available all the time. Canning was great, people could have veggies in the winter. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 11:20 AM Flag
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Alrighty then. You don't know that the average person did or didn't get enough protein, was weaned off milk and given rice way too early as an infant, never ate meat, WHATEVER. Great that your grandma had her own garden, mine lived in the inner city, and left school at 11 to earn $ for her family. Oh, and got her period at age 9. You get me the studies and spare me the stories of grandma's vegetable garden. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 11:19 AM Flag
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get your own studies. My grandmother was one of 13 children from a farm family in Oklahoma who ended up in NYC raising 4 children on her own. And she did end up with her own garden in the end. Do you really think the refined sugar, transfats, and tons of dairy are good for us? How about using your common sense? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 11:23 AM Flag
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there are lots of other ways to get the nutrients you get from milk. You don't need to drink a lot of milk [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 11:08 AM Flag
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true [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 11:13 AM Flag
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OTOH I think it's the organic folks who are pushing the notion of early puberty being caused by the non-organic milk. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:57 AM Flag
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what do you think is causing it? Do you want your kids full of bovine growth hormone? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 11:01 AM Flag
[ - ] OMG I can't believe that Shania Twain's husband left her for this plain jane. The picture is on People.com. She's really not attractive at all, and not a youngster either (she's 37).Men are so weird. 8 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 05.22.08, 10:27 AM Flag
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she might be a wonderful person. looks and money aren't everything, you know? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:29 AM Flag
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She can't be such a wonderful person b/c she dumped her husband to be with him. Not so wonderful a spouse certainly [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:33 AM Flag
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Perhaps he was tired of her outshining him. I had a BF leave me for the same reason. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:33 AM Flag
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Maybe. I obviously don't know these people at all! She just seems like a genuine person, so I was really surprised to hear that their marriage was ended b/c of an affair. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:36 AM Flag
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you're not a wonderful person if you have an affair w/ your best friend's husband. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:34 AM Flag
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or - good point. i am just surprised at the focus on appearance as if being attractive is the only reason to be with someone. how shallow. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:37 AM Flag
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mutt lange is also a recluse and a bit of an odd bird. and i hear that shania is kind of a b*tch, so maybe that's why... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:31 AM Flag
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so we are damned if we leave our wives for hot twenty somethings, damned if we leave our wives for somebody we just like... It's starting to sound like you think we are supposed to stay. Honor our vows. Shit like that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:43 AM Flag
[ - ] How many people here used Similac Organic? 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 05.22.08, 10:26 AM Flag
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me [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:34 AM Flag
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why don't we check on youbemom too? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:36 AM Flag
[ - ] Would you be offended if your children were not invited to a baby shower? People keep asking if they can bring their kids to my shower. I am not the host, but they feel the need to ask me, for whatever reason. I am telling them to ask about it when they rsvp to the host. But I have told the host I don't want kids there, it's going to get too crazy, and then there will be at least 10 kids at a 50 person shower. 17 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 05.22.08, 10:26 AM Flag
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It [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:28 AM Flag
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It's a fine rule. They just wont come if it's a problem. I wanted kids at mine, but I totally get why you dont. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:29 AM Flag
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IMO it's inappropriate to have children to a baby shower. It's an adult event and no one feels like having the kids running around to look after. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:29 AM Flag
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Why don't people understand, your kids are not welcome everywhere. there is such a thing as an adult-only event. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:29 AM Flag
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I don't a baby shower qualifies as adult-only. It's celebrating birth of a child! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:33 AM Flag
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but maybe people don't want others' rug rats running around. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:33 AM Flag
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ita, and the hosts get to decide what's "adults-only" imo [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:35 AM Flag
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no. people are rude though and think their perfect children should be everywhere [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:29 AM Flag
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wait until the baby arrives. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:32 AM Flag
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I would not be offended at all. I think it is very rude to ask if they can come. Infants are one thing but toddlers and up would be a nightmare. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:33 AM Flag
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This is it precisely. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:42 AM Flag
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Fine if you don't want children around. But IMO it's selfish. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:43 AM Flag
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np-ridiculous. It isn't selfish. It's VERY unusual to have kids running around at a baby shower. The focus is on the mom-to-be, not other people's urchins. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 11:07 AM Flag
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I am so sick of people assuming their children should be not only be welcomed at every event but should have food geared toward them, entertainment available, etc. DH and I went to a restaurant a few weeks ago at 9pm and there was a couple with a preschooler and toddler, bitching that their wasn't a kids' menu. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 11:11 AM Flag
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Were they actually bitching about it, or just asking if there was one? Btw, 9pm is waaay to late for a preschooler and a toddler to be having dinner, don't you think? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 11:12 AM Flag
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Absolutely too late, and annoying as hell to me who had paid for a sitter to go have an adult meal at an adult hour. And yes, they were complaining. It was an expensive restaurant with food that wouldn't necessarily appeal to all children. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 11:15 AM Flag
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blech. I'd have asked for a diff table, which isn't something I ever do! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 11:16 AM Flag
[ - ] was the Gladys Knight and the Pips thing on American Idol? saw a clip this a.m., but wasn't sure where it was from 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:25 AM Flag
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yes [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:26 AM Flag
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yes, it was stupid [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:26 AM Flag
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nothing with RDJ can be stupid...I thought Jack Black was really hamming it up. he can be annoying [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:31 AM Flag
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i thought it was funny, though ben stiller annoys me [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:32 AM Flag
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np - JB was the only interesting thing to watch. Otherwise - what? 3 white guys being the Pips? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:32 AM Flag
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get him a clock, tell him he has to stay in bed and read books. when you wake him up, time to get up. leave a sippy cup of water in there or take him to bathroom if potty trained and send back to bed. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:36 AM Flag
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RDJ or Jack Black? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.22.08, 10:38 AM Flag
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