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[ - ] I'm going back to school and need to send 3yo ds to a school or daycare environment. He's at a church "preschool" now for a few mornings per week (we live in the south). I need to decide by Augs. to either keep him at the church school, which will be offering extended hours or send him to Montessori. The only other option is straight daycare. We're not religious at all and the church is baptist, which doesn't really bother me, we just don't talk about Jesus or religion at home. He's very shy and I've heard that Montessori is great for shy kids. Anyone have suggestions? Obviously, Montessori would be more expensive, but we just want to do what is right for him and keep him there for 2 years before Kindergarten. 23 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:02 PM Flag
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you need to talk to peoplke in your area. Here, Montessouri is very non-nurturing. It depends on where you are. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:03 PM Flag
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My son is in Montessori and it is a nurturing environment and also helps kids become more self confident and independent. Ignore the posters who say it is not. If it is accredited with either AMI or AMS, it is truly a Montessori...otherwise it is simply Montessori-inspired, which may or may not follow the curriculum. Many people do not understand Montessori - so do not listen to someone who is uninformed. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:24 PM Flag
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ita, we're in Montessori in NJ and it's a "true" Montessori - couldn't be more supportive - but it's not for everyone/all kids [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:31 PM Flag
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I'm not uninformed. OP is in the south, you have no idea if the Montessouri where she is would be exactly the same as your area. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:35 PM Flag
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Montessori - wherever they are - is accredited by 2 "governing" bodies...AMI and AMS. No matter where you are in the U.S., they apply the same standards. If a schools is not accredited by either, then it is not really a Montessori. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:59 PM Flag
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Telling someone to ignore the posters who disagree with you is very closed minded. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:35 PM Flag
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I said to ignore people who are uninformed about it. My post goes on to explain about curriculum and accrediting of Montessori schools. The OR doesn't even know how to spell Montessori correctly...shows you how informed she is. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:43 PM Flag
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no, you said 'ignore the posters who say it is not'. Go to hell. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:45 PM Flag
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See if you would have gone to Montessori (a properly accredited one, that is) you would know how to deal with conflict instead of being so abrasive. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:46 PM Flag
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Didnt I tell you to fuck off already? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:46 PM Flag
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clearly you know nothing about Montessori because a Montessori alum would never behave in such a manner. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:48 PM Flag
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Snort. Alum. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:48 PM Flag
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aww your family must have been too poor to foot the bill for Montessori. Lord knows you would have benefited from the courtesy lessons. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:51 PM Flag
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classy. make fun of the poor. you must be better than the rest of us. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:53 PM Flag
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np: people who try to "insult" others by calling them poor are the most uneducated crass hags alive. Is that was Montessori did for you? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:55 PM Flag
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^what [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:55 PM Flag
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poor was the wrong word to choose I admit. Did not see the value of Montessori was what I was trying to say. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:56 PM Flag
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It was hardly a word choice issue. Please review your own vulgar post. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:59 PM Flag
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Actually yes, my family was too poor to send me to Montessori. I, however, am not too poor to send my kids there. I choose not to. The Montessori school here is non-nurturing and nowhere near the kind of environment I want for my kids. OP is long gone for sure, but Montessori is not the answer for everyone everywhere. Surely you can agree with that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 03:11 PM Flag
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Montessori has produced four of the most self-centered kids I have ever met, from different families, in different states. Unable to relate to other kids or play well with others. I'm sure its all a huge coincedence. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:48 PM Flag
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there are self centered kids who go to every kind of preschool program in existence...has nothing to do with Montessori or any curriculum. Has more to do with what is going on at home than anything else. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:50 PM Flag
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maybe they just don't like YOU or your kids. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:55 PM Flag
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I agree. Montessori programs are only as good as the directors/teachers/board. It can be wildly different from one school to another. Talk to parents at the school [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:30 PM Flag
[ - ] any recs for a good short birthing class in NYC? I don't want any of those multi-session classes, just a quick short course so I'm not totally clueless when the day comes. 41 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Expecting 06.05.08, 01:59 PM Flag
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what if I tell you it probably doesnt really matter if you go or not at all [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:13 PM Flag
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I agree. Total waste of time. DO not go to lamaze. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:16 PM Flag
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Well, it is MANDATORY to take a childbirth preparation class if you're going to give birth in the SLR Birthing Center- FYI. I've heard good things about Realbirth [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.03.09, 02:21 PM Flag
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I know Realbirth closed- but Erica Lyon who was the founder of RB now teaches a great class at Tribeca Parenting- "Keeping and Ooen Mind". Although it goes over four sessions. I think it is available on a weekend day or two in a row. Great class- lots of information. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 10.04.11, 06:23 AM Flag
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Sign up for whatever class your hospital offers. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:14 PM Flag
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Ask at your hospital. I'll be honest with you, I didn't take one. I took a breastfeeding class at Stlukes/roosevelt and an anesthesiology options class at NYU (free). And loved both of them. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:20 PM Flag
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The above advice is terrible. If you have a rough delivery, like I did, it will be so much worse if you have no idea what the f*ck is happening and what your options are. You REALLY want to be on top of what all the interventions are and what the downsides can be--especially if you're delivering at a "top" hospital in nyc. Whatever you can do to make your own labor progress and to labor on your own is going to help you a lot in the long run. Take a class at Realbirth. FWIW, I was really blase about childbirth education and really regretted it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:37 PM Flag
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^^^ also, I'm not talking about breathing techniques and massage. I'm saying learn everything there is to know about the upsides/downsides/side effects of Pitocin, Epidurals, fetal monitoring, episiotomy, ivs, c-section, eating/drinking and what the protocols are at your particular hospital or at the slightest sign of trouble you're going to be hooked up to a thousand machines and drips, flat on your back, and well on your way to an "emergency" c-section. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:39 PM Flag
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I'm sorry your birth wasn't what you wanted it to be. But the above advice in not horrible. Its just different than advice you would give :) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:45 PM Flag
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obviously, some people have a rough time of it, so better to be at least a little educated about the process rather than stick your head in the sand [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:48 PM Flag
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The advice is only sound if OP ends up having a relatively easy birth. Considering the number of emergency c-sections that go down in nyc hospitals, every first time mom's odds of having one are way higher than they should be. Which makes not be educated... Bad advice. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:48 PM Flag
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That is not true. Some patients trust their doctors and take it as it comes. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:51 PM Flag
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Your doctor doesn't labor for you. Your doctor delivers the baby. There is a big gap in there, and if you know what your options are, you can make your labor a lot smoother in many cases. Very few first babies simply pop out. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:58 PM Flag
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actully, the mom delivers the baby, the doc catches it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 03:06 PM Flag
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What city do you live in? In NYC, the doc delivers the baby, often with a wild cocktail of chemicals that may or may not be necessary or beneficial to anyone. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 03:09 PM Flag
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NYC. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 03:14 PM Flag
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The more you post the clearer it becomes you are a birth nazi. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 03:14 PM Flag
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Nope, not at all. PG w/ #2, and fully planning on getting an epi, delivering with an OB at Cornell, etc. Just know a lot more about what I can do in terms of postponing certain interventions to make this delivery go more smoothly and come out of it feeling better physically and emotionally. What's so hard to understand? For every person who had an easy 4 hour labor like you, you must surely know people who had anything but that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 03:18 PM Flag
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oh please. stop the fearmongering [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 03:14 PM Flag
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My (very pro-intervention) OB actually said to me "This is going to be the most important day of your life. Don't you want to go into it as prepared as you can be? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 03:01 PM Flag
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I didn't say ALL, I said some. Why can't people understand we all make choices, they are all different. A birthing class is not a necessity. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 03:05 PM Flag
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of course an OB said that. Labor and delivery is HIS life. Its one day. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 03:13 PM Flag
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I gave birth flat on my back twice, without meds. And I was happy to have fetal monitoring. I really dislike fear mongering. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 03:02 PM Flag
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Me too. Induced with first baby, four hours of labor, 12 minutes - yep 12 minutes of pushing, epidural - no problem. The whole fear thing that women do to other women is awful [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 03:08 PM Flag
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You know you are really lucky, right? It's really not this easy for everyone. What if it hadn't been so easy for you, wouldn't you have wanted to know as much as you could? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 03:10 PM Flag
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No, I don't know how lucky I am - I know lots of induced women with no problems at all. And no, if there is a crisis in childbirth - I defer to the doctor, I don't know more than they do by reading a book or taking a class. Sorry. We are all different. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 03:12 PM Flag
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Why? So you could lie there and argue with your OB about wether or not to have a c section when doc says you need one? Are you kidding? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 03:13 PM Flag
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OR: I hate that birthing has become a competitive sport, that one choice is better. And I have no patience for the "intervention is evil" types. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 03:13 PM Flag
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I know. Make your choices and I sincerly hope that every woman gets exactly what they want - a scheduled C or a natural birth. Whatever it is, to each her own [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 03:16 PM Flag
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thank you. very helpful. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:46 PM Flag
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Sure. If you aren't going to take a class, you should read a book called "The Big Book of Birth" by Erica Lyon. It covers all of this in a very sensible, straightforward way with a lot of personal stories thrown in. Written by the founder of Realbirth and very informative. GL! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:50 PM Flag
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I will definitely check it out. Thanks again. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:51 PM Flag
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OP, just so you know Realbirth is touchy feely, breastfeeding natural birth kind of place. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:52 PM Flag
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Not into the natural birth for sure, but it was also mentioned to me by someone else, so I may look into it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:53 PM Flag
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If you breastfeed they have good breastfeeding support group (and cheap). But, go in with your eyes open. Intervention is evil - but you probably guessed that from the responder. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:55 PM Flag
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Don't let the intervention is evil folks scare you or make you feel like your choices are less valid. I ended up needing a c-section for my first and my supposedly woman friendly birthing instructor made me feel like a failure, and some ind of traitor to womanhood. hard to take when you are huge and hormonal. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 03:04 PM Flag
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Just so you know, there is a wide, wide range of pain relief offered by epidural anesthesia. The more you get, and the earlier you get it, the more likely you are to "fail to progress" for many, many reasons. And YOU are the one who gets to decide when it goes in and how much it's ratcheted up. You really need to know this stuff going in! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 03:05 PM Flag
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Thanks doc! Anyone intereted in pain management should take the class at NYU. Its great. Taught by head of department. Factual, not emotional. And free. Once a month. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 03:09 PM Flag
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It is and it isn't. There is a class there specifically for people who know in advance that they will probably want an epidural. They cater to all--except maybe to those who really would rather just schedule their c-sections and avoid the whole thing. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:54 PM Flag
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Would love to hear some answers to the OP question - any recs for a birthing class? don't really want to know your individual opinions on whether interventions are good or evel, whether you should go with whatever your doc says or not, or whether you think childbirth education is good, bad or meh. Which classes did you take and where? Where they straight up dope about procedures and required infant testing, or make you draw pictures and the like? did they cover breastfeeding, is it possible to get all the info in a one day class? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 10.03.11, 11:06 AM Flag
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Hi, i wanted to introduce you to HypnoBirthing, The Mongan Method. A great way to prepare yourself for a calm, more comfortable birthing experience Please visit www.hypnobirthingny.com [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.06.13, 09:40 PM Flag
[ - ] Twenty Reasons Why Private School is better than Public School: 70 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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New York City 06.05.08, 01:57 PM Flag
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Connections [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:58 PM Flag
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I went to excellent public school. no complaints here. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:45 PM Flag
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are you going to post this 20 times? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:58 PM Flag
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1. Better Student to Teacher Ratio (1:8 vs. 1:28) 2. Ability to break classes down to smaller groups 3. Ability to teach children at their individual levels 4. More faculty members with advanced degrees 5. Better art offerings (in general) 6. Better music offerings (in general) 7. More advanced and broader curriculum (in general) 8. Ability to create and change their curriculum 9. Much better physical facilities 10. No lost time teaching to a test 11. No budget cuts 12. Much less turnover with Faculty 13. Much less turnover with Administrators (Principals) 14. Ability to remove problem children who can disrupt the class 15. More after school offerings 16. Better technology (Networks, computer labs, smart boards, etc.) 17. Better libraries and research facilities 18. Better connected community to help with employment and with continuing education. 19. Safer schools because they can control what children are enrolled. 20. No DOE [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:59 PM Flag
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I can refute you on all of these. For starters, there are less than 20 kids per class where we are, etc etc etc. All these are stereotypes. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:04 PM Flag
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If you do it is extremely rare. In our PS you are looking at 25-30 kids per class. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:16 PM Flag
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Go ahead, I am listening. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:20 PM Flag
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Our school does a great job with my kids adjusting to the level they need, not the level of the class. Very adept at accelerating. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:30 PM Flag
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Not sure how much better art and music you need - if your kid is talented in those things, and wants to make them a profession, then you will find outside organizations. if they are not talented in these, then its something they need through middle school, tops. not worth paying privat school tuition for, in any event. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:32 PM Flag
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It is worth it to some. If I could afford private and my dc was taking more art and less test prep I'd be thrilled. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:38 PM Flag
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np. I love it when people think they can use their anecdotal experience to refute general truths. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:33 PM Flag
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FUCK YOU. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:43 PM Flag
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What a brilliant retort. I'm sorry for you if the truth bothers you so much. In NYC public schools with less than 20 dc per class are the exception, not the rule. The same is true for most of the examples given by the OR. It's great for you if your dc is at one of the exceptions, but please don't delude yourself that your experience disproves the OR's post. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 04:26 PM Flag
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Its not a general truth then. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:46 PM Flag
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You think something can't be a general truth because there are some examples to the contrary? You need to check your dictionary for the definition of "general." [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 04:20 PM Flag
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no school has a 1:8 student/teacher ratio. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:04 PM Flag
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Two teacher 16 kids in private. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:15 PM Flag
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Actually, at BWL we had two teachers for 12 students in each of the K classes. So the ratio was 1:6. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:16 PM Flag
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not in my private school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:17 PM Flag
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^^^actually, preschool has a high ratio. but i think publics also have a high ratio for preschool. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:19 PM Flag
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My dc's school has a 1:7 faculty:student ratio, which is not unusual for private school. It's the ratio of all full-time teachers to all students and is not just what you see in the homeroom class. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 03:13 PM Flag
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Many do and some have a smaller. Many have a 1:4 in K to 3. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:35 PM Flag
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While many of these are advantages over DOE schools, I am happy to report that less than half of them are advantages over Hunter. I think it is $500,000 well saved [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:07 PM Flag
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I'm glad your dc got into Hunter, but so few do that it's not all that relevant. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:17 PM Flag
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Unfortunately Hunter is not a typical representation of the NYC Public School system and only makes up an almost insignificant fraction of the NYC public School children. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:19 PM Flag
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Yes, but is often the centerpiece of its own"Hunter vs Private" debate. So the $30K spent on private is only buying about $10K of additional services over Hunter [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:31 PM Flag
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Looking at the 16 reasons, I don't see any in which Hunter would match a private school, with the possible exception of #4. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 03:26 PM Flag
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1) teacher ratio to kid ration 1 to 12 for first 4 grades. 2) specials are done on half a class so remaining 12 students are then split into two groups by the two teachers 3) Everything is individualized--if a child can do 3rd or 4th grade math in 1st grade it is given to them 4) Lots of masters in gifted education from Hunter college 5) Both art and studio art (ceramics and woodworking) 7) advanced curriculum--but accelerated and enriched and very progressive in early years to follow the interests of the child 8) They are completely in charge of their own curriculum and have been putting in a lot of positive changes since new principal arrived 10. Don't teach to the tests 11. Only nominally affected by DOE cuts because most funding is through CUNY, 12. Faculty turnover is mixed 15. Getting better in this area [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 04:34 PM Flag
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~~oh and now that I checked into the inside of the original post I will add 19) controls own admission and 20) No DOE [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 04:44 PM Flag
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All the independent schools I know do specials in one half class size. How many specials does a Hunter child have on a typical day? A typical private school schedule would have 3 or 4 specials daily, including science 3-5 times weekly in a half class size and gym 4-5 times weekly. How many times weekly does Hunter elementary have gym? How frequently is art taught (above K level)? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 04:58 PM Flag
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frankly I question the 3-4 times daily for specials--when do the kids have a chance to learn? Hunter has gym 2x per week and foreign language 2x per week (I think) other specials are 1x per week (art/studio, music, chess, library, math lab and science lab (after 2nd grade). I think it averages out to 2 per day. Foreign language starts in K which I know is earlier than many of the privates we toured. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:40 PM Flag
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oops I left off Cultural arts for the younger kids which is 2x per week through 2nd grade and covers science in 1 of the 2 classes. There is also a dance program that I think is just for 4th graders [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:42 PM Flag
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So a child in private school has twice the science, music and art as a child at Hunter? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 07:16 PM Flag
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I don't know if they really do or not. Perhaps no other school has chess or a separate math lab as a special, and those classes take the place of one art or science class. But at Hunter, art is twice a week in a half class, music is twice a week, language (either French or Spanish) is twice a week. Science varies depending on age. By older grades, science is 3 times a week, I believe. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 08:24 PM Flag
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Yes - the dance program is NDI, which is in other public schools. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 08:29 PM Flag
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BOTH ART AND STUDIO ART!!!!! OMG!!!!! TRANSFER MY CHILD NOW [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:29 PM Flag
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mock it all you want but I toured plenty of private schools and while the facilities were nicer at the privates I was pleasantly surprised at how similar the curriculum for the specials was at Hunter [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:41 PM Flag
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p.s. $30K per year in your pocket and not at the school bursar buys a lot of supplemental art, music and gym classes [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:46 PM Flag
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so by my calculations the private school parents are spending $10,000 per class for the extra science, music and art class per week [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 08:15 PM Flag
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And yet both private and public school families spend the same amount of money on private music lessons, sports and any other interest (dance, art, etc) lessons. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 08:17 PM Flag
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ita with "ability to teach children at their individual levels". Refute all you want, but my school district would not/could not do this for my son who was way ahead of the other students. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:40 PM Flag
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Middle school [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:59 PM Flag
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High school [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:00 PM Flag
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Yawn, can we please talk about something else. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:02 PM Flag
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top reason: you have some control over the other families in the school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:10 PM Flag
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oh that is so rude [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:26 PM Flag
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but some truth to that [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:27 PM Flag
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didn't mean it to be rude. i just think it's very true. the biggest difference in public vs private is that in private, parents have more control. and it's not always a bad thing. i am religious and i don't want my dcs to be the "weirdos" so i send them to a private religious school where they are the norm and the school is reinforcing the lifestyle we lead. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:31 PM Flag
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that isn't what your or post stated. I am reliegious too, and I try very hard to live our life, support those around us. I would never dream of trying to"control" some family in our school [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:38 PM Flag
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She means she has control over who she's in school with not that she can control the other families. As a school, she chooses who to be with. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:40 PM Flag
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I know that. And I find it rude. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:43 PM Flag
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ok. but at least flame for what the post meant. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:45 PM Flag
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You find it rude that I send my dc to Jewish school? It's very acceptable in our culture to make these choices. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:52 PM Flag
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are you the OR? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:54 PM Flag
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yes [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 03:36 PM Flag
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Yes, I find exluding people rude. Even if you base it on something "good". Its not a postive. You may choose it, but it doesn't make it a postive. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:54 PM Flag
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OR: i think that is the underlying benefit of private school: that you have more control over the school (students, curriculum, administrative decisions, etc). You are free to disagree. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:56 PM Flag
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ITA. But that's my disgust with all organized religion. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 03:08 PM Flag
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Then only non-zoned public school would not be rude to you? What about selective publics? What about your job? Do they exclude people there by not choosing to hire them? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 03:38 PM Flag
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OR: thank you. yes, that is what i meant. and in non-religious privates, the parents have more control as well. (at least, that's been my experience. b/c the schools have more flexibility about where to put financial resources, flexibility with curriculum, etc) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:43 PM Flag
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I am sure some FDLS people use this to justify their schools. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:32 PM Flag
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Reason 21: overinvolved, micromanaging parents [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:27 PM Flag
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Just because they pay for education? My child is in public. She's getting a govt mandates education, her teacher has very little time to teach (her words) the way she could twenty years ago. Kids are prepped for tests, not the kind of tests that expand or deepen knowledge, tests that are designed to prove another point entirely. If we could afford private she could have gym four times a week, music four times a week, art five times a week, the education would be individualized if she needed it. My dd's public teaches to the middle, so wer'e lucky but I wish she could be in private where they still teach the top kids too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:36 PM Flag
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22. pretentious parents. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:49 PM Flag
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23. Spoiled children who are told that they are better/smarter than children who go to public. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:50 PM Flag
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Private schools are far better for the average student--they really maximize a students abilities. For the brighter than average student, public can be better. The smartest kids, not the richest, are in public and if that's your peer group that's optimal. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 07:16 PM Flag
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Because if you have a kid that's the least bit "outside the box", private will give you the 'ole heave ho...unless of course you can hire a one-on-one "shadow. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 07:18 PM Flag
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well-said [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 11:53 PM Flag
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I agree that private can really help an average student, but I have seen how very smart children are challenged also. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 07:22 PM Flag
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This was a big concern with us with private. Went citywide G&T and hands down believe this was the best move for dc. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 07:42 PM Flag
[ - ] i want to quit my job. i really really can't afford it but i miss my kids and want to sah. talk some sense into me please??? 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:49 PM Flag
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if you can't afford it, you can't afford it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:51 PM Flag
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You will miss the structure, the tangible rewards, the (positive) stress and the paycheck! Signed - SAHM [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:09 PM Flag
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the grass is always greener... but nothing green except cash will pay for those dc, so don't quit without a plan... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:11 PM Flag
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how much can you not afford it? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:13 PM Flag
[ - ] my dh and i are in desperate need of a good parenting class or a therapist who can help us with parenting issues. does anyone have a recommendation? Manhattan or Brooklyn preferred. thanks. 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:40 PM Flag
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ub is as good as any parenting class - what is your issue? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:49 PM Flag
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um... not so. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:56 PM Flag
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i agree. unless you are talking serious problems. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:20 PM Flag
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Problems are serious. Our DS rules the roost. We have tried time outs, 1-2-3, everything -- nothing works. My DH flies off the handle and I acquiese. The whole dynamic needs to change. Does anyone know a class or therapist? Thanks. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.08, 09:14 AM Flag
[ - ] any LA moms on? I'm trying to post a housing swap listing on craigslist and i don't know what the areas are: they list # westside-southbay-310 # san fernando valley # central LA 213/323 # san gabriel valley # long beach / 562 # antelope valley 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:35 PM Flag
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i'm interested in being in silver lake, venice or santa monica [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:35 PM Flag
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which should i pick? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:35 PM Flag
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where do you live? where is the house you are trying to swap located? I may know of a swap house for you in LA [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.25.09, 07:59 AM Flag
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South Bay is anywhere from Manhattan Beach (which would be close-ish to Venice/SM) to Carson and Compton. Long Beach is south of that - could be in a very nice area, but very south of where you want to be. Antelope Valley is way way north of anything. And that leaves the San Fernando and San Gabriel Valleys. They're basically next to each other - SF to the west of SG. Both valleys have nice areas and not so nice areas. And they're both to the north of Silver Lake and SM - where you want to be. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.25.09, 08:54 AM Flag
[ - ] It's really outrageous how entitled Hillary feels about being the VP. If I were Obama she'd be the last one on my list. 19 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:31 PM Flag
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it's not about her or about him. it's about how to unite the party and get a Dem in the White House. asking her to be VP would go a long way toward that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:33 PM Flag
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ita [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:24 PM Flag
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I completely disagree. He should select someone which compliments his strengths, bringing other strengths to the table. Not someone to placate voters. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:37 PM Flag
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lol - that is the only job of the vp - to placate voters [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:40 PM Flag
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and break a tie [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:41 PM Flag
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Bullox! Those dem/ind voters who will not vote for him b/c she lost are not going to be placated by her in the passneger seat. And she brings all kinds of baggage. And holy shit, can you imagine trying to run the country with her pissing in your ear every five minutes? "When Bill and I were president..." He needs somebody with defense experience who appeals to the middle. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:41 PM Flag
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seriously. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:42 PM Flag
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three cheers for Joe Biden ! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:44 PM Flag
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Biden, Nunn, Richardson (more FP then defense...) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:48 PM Flag
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I love Biden... says it like it is, great defense and int'l knowledge... i dig him... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:49 PM Flag
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ditto. sorry, but coming in 2nd place, even if close, means you LOST. game over. I liked her, but it's done now and she has no standing to influence his vp nom. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:33 PM Flag
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Only 18 million votes, but don't trouble yourself with details [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:25 PM Flag
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Depending how you count, she won the majority of the popular vote. That should count for something. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:26 PM Flag
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key phrase "depending on how you count"... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:42 PM Flag
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no matter how you count, he won by at most .4% [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:43 PM Flag
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one for Obama, one for Hillary; two for Obama, one two for Hillary; three for Obama, one two three for Hillary. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:43 PM Flag
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If I didn't live in NY I would want O/H ticket. But I prefer to keep H as my senator at this point [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:42 PM Flag
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and you can have her [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 03:08 PM Flag
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hey Dems... we had a real choice this year between two good candidates... not too far apart on issues, but both with differing foci... it is a good thing... it is a great thing... one person had to win though. that's how these things work. in the end, the party is helped by all the field work and legwork and newly registered dems and by the fact that for the first time in a long time this is going to be a real contest in the fall ! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:48 PM Flag
[ - ] Someone mentioned that the DOE may "re-test" kids to fill empty g&t spots. What does this mean exactly? Who would they choose to re-test? 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 06.05.08, 01:30 PM Flag
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they won't re-test. they will test dcs who move here over the summer. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:39 PM Flag
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People that contested the test results because of technical errors. Those families will definitely have a choice of either accept the current score or retest. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:03 PM Flag
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Where did you hear that? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:51 PM Flag
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Wouldn't they be in the only school in the district that nobody wanted? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:52 PM Flag
[ - ] is it normal to be still bleeding 4 wks post partum? or a sign that i'm doing too much? tia 11 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:30 PM Flag
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was normal in my case. i bled for a little over 6 wks. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:31 PM Flag
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Normal. I bled for 6 weeks. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:31 PM Flag
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Ditto. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:32 PM Flag
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ditto [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:55 PM Flag
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tritto. for me, sometimes it would stop and then it would start all over again out of the blue... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 03:52 PM Flag
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how much? A little is normal. I still had some then, but not enough to really need pads. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:31 PM Flag
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Then you're lucky. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:32 PM Flag
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or: really? Shouldnt it be pretty diminished by then? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:36 PM Flag
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I was still wearing pads then...maybe not the big hospital ones. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:37 PM Flag
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I guess maybe I was still wearing pads, but skinny ones, or maybe just big panty liners. not going commando for sure [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:39 PM Flag
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I bled for 10 weeks post partum. I think you are well within the range of normal. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:42 PM Flag
[ - ] When can you give berries? Is it just strawberries that should be avoided? So much baby food/yogurt has berry flavors, I thought they were a no-no 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:28 PM Flag
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blueberries are okay from 7 -8 months or so. strawberries and raspberries best to wait until a little older. some say 1 yr. (blueberries aren't in the same family) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:31 PM Flag
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op: well, that explains it! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:32 PM Flag
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giving berry flavored food is not the same as giving berries though [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:56 PM Flag
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op: I meant from an allergic reaction point of view, not for choking, etc. I just mean, can I give my 7 mos blueberry baby food [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 02:12 PM Flag
[ - ] Someone reassure me that its normal for your period to be a little screwy for a while after db...came back at 3 mos pp and was regular until now (7 mos). Im 3-4 days late and freaking out. negative HPT this AM. Been using condoms and only done it once or twice this month. Still, very nervous 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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New York City 06.05.08, 01:28 PM Flag
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Normal--especially if you're nursing at all and there are any changes in your nursing schedule. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:28 PM Flag
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op: not nursing, tho [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:29 PM Flag
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Still--not uncommon for periods to still be screwy. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:29 PM Flag
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you'll have to wait and see. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:29 PM Flag
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op: well, that I already knew! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:30 PM Flag
[ - ] What if Obama picks Kathleen Sebelius for VP? Insult to Hillary? 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:25 PM Flag
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who is she? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:26 PM Flag
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Governor of Kansas--longtime Obama supporter, mainly known for being a popular Dem governor who won in one of the reddest states [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:29 PM Flag
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gotcha. thanks. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:31 PM Flag
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at this point, big hilary supporters wil se pickinganyoen else -- woman, man , martian -- as an insult. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 01:27 PM Flag
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