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[ - ] What have you accomplished today? 39 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:52 PM Flag
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Now that you ask, pretty much nothing. And I feel good about it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:54 PM Flag
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Packed school lunches for kids, walked them to school, went to the gym, took care of personal calls and appointments, did work for my job. Now I’m tired and don’t feel like doing a damn thing even though I have some errands [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:56 PM Flag
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Got a bunch of work done on a brief I'm working on. Got dresses for DD and me for a wedding this weekend. Prepping for a conference call at 2:30. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:01 PM Flag
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Manicure, blowout, food shopping, lunch with a friend, working from home but not busy [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:05 PM Flag
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I made an executive decision about 2 old chairs and busted them up to burn in the fireplace. Feeling pretty good about it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:07 PM Flag
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Not to be debby downer but do you know that the wood they're made of will burn cleanly? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:12 PM Flag
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this, be really careful. Nothing treated with arsenic should ever be burned. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:26 PM Flag
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I don't really know anything about any of that but they were just old wooden chairs with caning that was wearing thin. They were maybe around 100 years old, but they were rickety. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 09:26 PM Flag
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Dishes, bought last round of school supplies, changed the old email on an account that I was locked out of due to password issues, worked out [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:07 PM Flag
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Delivered two pitches for new business, updated my firm on recent developments for a transaction, invested $100mn in new deals in the market, read through a liability management proposal and rejected it (so we’re keeping a $50mn investment), dialed into my son’s allergy appointment, and paid piano and camp tuitions (latter was overdue). Oh and ordered groceries for the week. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:10 PM Flag
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Wow. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:23 PM Flag
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Zilch. And it’s ok—I spent many years doing 500 things a day. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:11 PM Flag
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I cannot wait to retire. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:29 PM Flag
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I’ve semi-retired and it feels great. Kids still on the young side, which makes it even sweeter. (Had them late.) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:33 PM Flag
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How did you get to save so much to be semi retired? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:50 PM Flag
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A combo platter of steady saving, some inheritance, a real estate buy that quadrupled in value and a DH with family income. I am very lucky. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:54 PM Flag
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^^^i think we are also comfortable with less than others may need to feel comfortable. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:55 PM Flag
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I am hoping to do the same. If we leave the city, we can likely retire (or go pt) in 5 yrs. But DC are very well matched to their schools (one slightly sn and other just pita) so we don't want to take them out. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:58 PM Flag
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+1 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:30 PM Flag
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Stuck to the boundaries I drew with the client who tries to take advantage and get me to do more work than agreed for no additional pay. Used the time I saved to sign up another client. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:15 PM Flag
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Good job! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:30 PM Flag
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8 hours at the library, got through a couple of months of a 19th century journal. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:25 PM Flag
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Got two kids off to school. Met with two students and taught one two hour class. Have another meeting and two more classes to teach and then wine!!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:27 PM Flag
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Ran 7 miles before work. At 57, I'm kind of proud of myself. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:29 PM Flag
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You should be! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 07:14 PM Flag
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Thx! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 07:51 PM Flag
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Do we only have TWO people who work on this board? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:46 PM Flag
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The people who work are... working. (I'm at work, waiting for a report to load, so took a mental break and came on here...) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:55 PM Flag
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No..."got work done on a brief" was #1; "delivered two pitches" is #2; "stuck to boundaries with client" is #3; me (ran 7 miles before work) is #4. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 07:03 PM Flag
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I went to work, 6 to 11. --Amazon Prime Shopper Mom [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 07:07 PM Flag
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That’s a job not a career. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 07:18 PM Flag
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The question was "... people who work." I assure you, it is work. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 07:45 PM Flag
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Research is work, believe me. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 08:36 PM Flag
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6th chemo treatment [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 07:22 PM Flag
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I'm so sorry! How many more to go? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 07:51 PM Flag
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Just one more. Hopefully. Fingers crossed. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 07:54 PM Flag
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got dressed. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 07:40 PM Flag
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Made kids breakfast. Worked at job #1. Worked at job #2. Practiced math fact with my youngest. Cleaned up the pile of clothes in the dining room. Jogged for 45 min at my target heart rate. So boring. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 11:26 PM Flag
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Played and cuddled a bit with DC before making breakfast for DC & DH, made healthy lunch and snacks to keep me from eating badly, reviewed research proposal with mentee, plowed through several hours of work, reviewed work reports with younger staff members, plowed through more work, bathed and fed DC, hung out with DC. Now just relaxing on UB. :-) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.11.19, 01:58 AM Flag
[ - ] Is anyone (or know of anyone) having their DC take the Hunter HS test just to see how he/she would do, but have no intention of attending? DF's DC just started in private for 6th grade and qualifies for the test. DF thought it might be good for her DC to take the test with no intention of moving the child. I think it is crazy to add a day of stress to her DC. I wonder if others do the same. 30 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 09.10.19, 05:49 PM Flag
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I think it’s a great idea. There are lots of tests to be taken for college -making them less scary no stress is a good thing. Why do you assume stress will be involved when the results are irrelevant? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:53 PM Flag
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+1 . there will be no stress or pressure on the kid . especially if the intention is to stay put . Kids take tests all the time. How about the test to assess for learning disabilities. Tons of kids take those and they can be two days long! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:57 PM Flag
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Oh it will be stressful! Are you kidding? Your dc will be surrounded by kids who are nervous -- really, really nervous--for this 3 hour test. It will not be fun. Someone cried when my dc was taking it last year. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 07:14 PM Flag
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+2 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:07 PM Flag
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what qualifies you to take the test at that point? I see no harm in it. Kids don't always take on all the stress in these situations . especially when the DC can easily stay at the private . so no pressure. just an experience and way to gauge DCs test taking ability [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:54 PM Flag
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Yes, doing the same. Why not? My kid is good at standardized testing and likes the challenge. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:54 PM Flag
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what qualifies DC to take the test? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:59 PM Flag
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5th grade state test scores. Her DC was in public last year [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:10 PM Flag
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ok thx. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:42 PM Flag
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no harm in taking, but what if DC gets in? Are you taking a spot away from a child who would attend? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:01 PM Flag
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isn't there more to admissions than just the test> ? and no, the schools plan for not everyone enrolling even if accepted [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:07 PM Flag
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it is just the test [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 10:01 PM Flag
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Hunter is not the same. It's one test and they don't overaccept because of yield much. But there is no such thing as "taking a spot away" from someone [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.11.19, 01:35 PM Flag
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She is equally entitled to a spot there, she in not taking it away from anyone. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:07 PM Flag
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Hunter has a wait list. If DC is accepted and turns down the spot, Hunter will offer it to the next child on the wait list. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:43 PM Flag
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Not really, because they will fill from waitlist. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 10:00 PM Flag
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But it involves pulling the kid out of school on a school to take the test. Is it worth it? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:10 PM Flag
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*school day [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:16 PM Flag
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One day? Sure they can miss one day. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:18 PM Flag
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My dc's year, they had to stand in a 3000+ kid line in the snow for over an hour. Have fun! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 07:15 PM Flag
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You seem like you've emotionally moved past it well. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.11.19, 01:49 AM Flag
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I didn't take go--dh did it but it was not a fun or relaxing day. Dc got in so worth it for us but I wouldn't recommend it just for practice. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.11.19, 10:52 PM Flag
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Do they give you a score? I thought they stopped doing that? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 07:13 PM Flag
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I wouldn't. Seems silly to do that to her. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 09:19 PM Flag
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My kid was in private but I considered moving him so I had him take the test. He got in but he didn't go. His friend in private also took the test although parents had no intention of moving him. My kid is not especially great in math and he could barely get through the math. There is also a personal essay that they have to write on the spot. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 10:03 PM Flag
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How do you know if a kid in private is qualified? I thought they used state tests [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 11:55 PM Flag
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np. private kids who don't take state tests can qualify if they get scores in the 90th percentile plus on alternate tests. For most NYC private school kids, that's the CTP5 test. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 11:58 PM Flag
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People always say this but my friend's dd was high on the hs waiting list (invited to Hunter Day, etc.) and didn't get in. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.11.19, 10:53 PM Flag
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I'm with you. we had zero interest in the school and didn't waste anyone's time testing for it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.11.19, 12:44 AM Flag
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A lot of people do it. It's not a big deal. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.11.19, 12:48 AM Flag
[ - ] How would you reciprocate/show your appreciation? A mom I know picks up my DD once a week and takes her to an after school activity. She drops her DD off there as well but has to make a slight detour to get my DD. I then pick up my DD after it’s over. She sticks around to take her own DD back (but doesn’t watch my DD, as she’s old enough). 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:47 PM Flag
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I had a similar situation with ds last year. I gave the mom a basket with a couple of bottles of wine and a note; not really about the "thing" but just to let her know how appreciative I was. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:49 PM Flag
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^^also considered chocolates, but I happen to know she likes wine. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:50 PM Flag
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Be alert for other ways you can help her out. I used to offer to drive kids there and back to birthday parties on a Saturday for those moms who helped me out during the week. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:51 PM Flag
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I always do and would try to do the wine basket suggested above or other goodies. There is a mom who always asks favors of me and has never ever reciprocated. The one time I asked she politely declined. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:00 PM Flag
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Send fun snacks for both kids, offer to be the chaperone for something else. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:08 PM Flag
[ - ] Anyone been to Burlington, VT in the fall? Any thoughts? Considering a trip. 8 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:29 PM Flag
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DH just dropped DD off at UVM, if that counts. Cool in the evenings (40s). No foliage yet. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:50 PM Flag
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Make your parents weekend hotel reservations early - and make sure you're on the VT side. The online hotel places will go by distance without telling you that it's as the crow flies, so they will list places on the NY side of the lake. I had a bad surprise when I was up and we had a nice dinner where I had wine and then got into my car only to find out that the hotel I had chosen was 60 miles driving distance, around the lake. I was okay to drive, but it wasn't ideal. The ferry is apparently easy to use but I wasn't figuring that out at 9pm on a Friday. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:03 PM Flag
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Wow -- thank you!! Very good to know. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 07:52 PM Flag
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UVM also grows a particular type of apple that is personal to the university's agricultural program. I forget what it's called, but they always have baskets of them outside the parents weekend events. Take them! They also have them in baskets in the University store in the fall, just for people to take.. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 09:29 PM Flag
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Yes, it's beautiful. Go hang out on Church Street. Obviously the foliage is incomparable. Take the ferry across Lake Champlain to NY and back. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:53 PM Flag
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You mean incomparable to NY? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:53 PM Flag
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No I mean enjoy a couple of ferry rides across one of the great lakes, not something we as New Yorkers do that often :) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 09:27 PM Flag
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Very beautiful when the leaves are changing, as I recall. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 07:53 PM Flag
[ - ] What is the deal with City & Country? Is it worth trying to get in there over PS3? I haven’t heard much about this school on UB. 11 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:26 PM Flag
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I know some families there. It's known to be progressive, but so is PS3. I've heard it's very hard to get in, but check it out and if you like it, apply. You never know. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:50 PM Flag
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This. It is a wonderful progressive school that has changed little in 100 years. Everyone we know there is lovely and the kids seem incredibly capable. It also goes through middle school which, if you have the money, is a stress relief. Very hard to get into though. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:59 PM Flag
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extremely progressive. A lot of celeb kids. My friend's child attends. They seem to love it, but they are very arty. I dont think the exmissions are very impressive, but they are both legacies, so they dont seem to care about that. and if you have to think about the price, you probably cant afford it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:07 PM Flag
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no judgement tho -i cant afford it! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:07 PM Flag
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Very hard to get into unless your a fashion or entertainment person. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 07:05 PM Flag
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actors kids go here, prob because its not known as academically rigourous, is more artsy. if you're not in the atrts, its prob not your scene. So many trust fund parents too that arent professionals. My friend says half the moms are SAH with multiple nannies and no aspirations other than living in manhattan [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.11.19, 08:43 PM Flag
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*rigorous, sorry [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.11.19, 08:43 PM Flag
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Our kids are there and very happy. It’s not hard to get into if you apply during the 3s- a lot of spots are open that year. The 2s are very difficult to get into and I don’t think there are a lot of open spots for K. My kids are in K and 3s and are thrilled to go to school every day. If you believe in progressive education it’s a really great school. We may switch to somewhere more academic as they get older though- a bit before high school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 07:05 PM Flag
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"we may switch somewhere more academic" not something you want to hear about a pricy private [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.11.19, 02:03 PM Flag
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Well it depends on what you feel would be best for your kids. I think progressive is wonderful for young kids, don’t think they should be sitting at a desk, pushed to read/write before they’re ready- they develop very strong social/emotional skills at c&c. But I do want a rigorous school when they are older because that’s the real world. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.11.19, 02:29 PM Flag
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eyeroll. no one would argue that their child's education should focus on what they are ready to learn, at the exact moment they are ready to learn it. Are you a politician? lol. Let me know when you find the magical school that changes its approach as soon as your child is ready for more academic focus. Or should we all switch private schools during elementary? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.11.19, 08:35 PM Flag
[ - ] business class to geneva with a 5 year old - is it worth it? i flew with her business 2 years ago and i think the huge bed actually made it worse - she just went insane jumping up and down 9 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:23 PM Flag
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Not only isn't it worth it, but if I were paying thousands of dollars extra for business class, I would complain bitterly to the airline about a five year old in the next seat. Tire her out before flight and load up tablet with movies/tv shows. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:25 PM Flag
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Np- I don’t think it’s “worth” it because nyc-gva flights are very expensive. That said, as long as a 5 yo is well behaved, of course they can travel business (and I have done so with my children), as do many other people. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:31 PM Flag
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Complain bitterly? Sheesh. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:37 PM Flag
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This. What they hell will that accomplish? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 07:26 PM Flag
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Depends on your kid, but 3 year olds are jumpers, 5 year olds, not so much. Also, she likely has more of an attention span for things like movies, tablets, etc. than she did back then. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:16 PM Flag
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I wouldn’t, but I’m on the cheap side :). Also, kids are little and mine, at least, sleep fine on coach seats even on longer flights. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:25 PM Flag
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flew this summer to zurich w/ 7 YO in economy. DC slept just fine. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 07:23 PM Flag
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I would because why not? I like biz class. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.11.19, 12:56 AM Flag
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We brought 3 yo dc, and if timed appropriately, and you have “honeymoon seats” where you are in close quarters to each other, totally worth it! We travelled to Asia, and after a meal and a movie, we made DC a little sleeping tent with blanket covering the flat reclining seat, and we had the most peaceful relaxing 15 hr flight! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.11.19, 01:41 AM Flag
[ - ] Where could I find a toy for a 7 year old boy today? I’m thinking a lazer tag game but there are no stores on the Upper West that carry toys like this. I’m going to Yonkers today so could pick up something around there. Thanks! 6 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 04:57 PM Flag
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I just bought a toy at Barnes & Noble for a five year old yesterday. Never thought about it but they have a nice selection. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:02 PM Flag
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^^but I don't think it was laser tag type stuff. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:03 PM Flag
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+1 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:05 PM Flag
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There's a Sports Authority in the Cross County Mall in Yonkers. Would they have what you need? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:28 PM Flag
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kids in the city arent playing lazer tag. i have an 8 year old who LOVES new lego kits [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:36 PM Flag
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Toy store on 85 and 3rd Avenue is excellent. Try them. Don’t go to a mall. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 07:06 PM Flag
[ - ] PSA for one of the easiest, coolest crafts I've ever found. Marble painted rocks just using nail polish, a recyclable container, and water. Looks like you could do it with easter eggs as well. I am keeping this in mind in case of emergency! 8 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 04:48 PM Flag
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvCVoP3c-58 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 04:48 PM Flag
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Thank you for this -- DD (12) is always looking for fun little projects to do. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:34 PM Flag
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You are welcome! I was getting tips from "Jan from Jan-Tastic" on how to iron decorative napkins onto Christmas cards using plastic wrap, and this one auto-played afterwards. As soon as I saw the rocks I was like, I want to know how she did that! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:49 PM Flag
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Really fun thank you! Please most more ideas if you come across them! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:58 PM Flag
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I will :) Looks like you should prime the rocks with white before you do it - but that's another activity. I might actually prepare rocks just for when I need to do this ... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 09:39 PM Flag
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these are pretty but have your kids wear a mask. nail polish is toxic to breathe in [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:15 PM Flag
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Nut [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 09:30 PM Flag
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No it's not. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 09:38 PM Flag
[ - ] If you tried to breastfeed, but couldn't, do you feel bad about it now? I'm really surprised that I don't because it felt like the world was ending at the time. 68 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 04:42 PM Flag
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sorry, badly [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 04:44 PM Flag
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I would say "bad" in this context . and no I would not feel bad [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 04:47 PM Flag
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Correct. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:20 PM Flag
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badly describes being bad at feeling, not feeling bad [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 04:54 PM Flag
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+1. like you would say "I feel good about this decision" and not "I feel well about this decision" [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 04:59 PM Flag
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Ok thanks, I'm ESL so that confuses me. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:06 PM Flag
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it is confusing because the people who use "badly" in this context are so adamantly sure that "badly" is correct. but it is not [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:08 PM Flag
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Don’t sweat it. The Kardashians put the final kibosh on the English language. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:15 PM Flag
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Native speakers of english overcorrect on this all the time. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:17 PM Flag
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also say "I" when it should be "me" ALL THE TIME!!!!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:29 PM Flag
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You were right the first time. “It went badly” vs “I feel bad”. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:13 PM Flag
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I just didn't like it. I'm a fidget by nature and I just could not sit still for so long. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 04:45 PM Flag
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I nursed each kid for a year, and wish I hadn't. It was so stressful and exhausting, and I think now about how I sat at my desk in my workplace hooked up to a pump like a bovine, when there is actually very little research to show the benefits of breast milk after the first few weeks (if at all). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 04:45 PM Flag
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I bfed each kid for 3 yrs and pumped at work, etc. I disagree, I think there is good research. I don't regret it. But of course I have other things I wasn't able to do or didn't know about that I regret. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 04:48 PM Flag
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And I have other disappointments that felt like the end of the world at the time but in the end I don't regret. [ Reply | More
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3 years is really ridiculous. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:06 PM Flag
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Sigh. People know so little about this issue. The composition of the milk changes as the kids age to be formulated for the stage they are in then. The mother's antibodies she produces when she exposed to things are still passed in the bm. There are benefits even for toddlers. OP should not feel guilty but there is nothing ridiculous about bfing to age 3, even in the US. [ Reply | More
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People forget that humans are still mammals, who evolved over a huge period of time. The complex biological relationship between infant and mother is not easily replicated. When parts of it are disrupted, it can have consequences far beyond the immediate. [ Reply | More
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calm down. has it occurred to you that breastfeeding for 3 years might be a tremendous physical burden to a woman? There's a point where the cost of breastfeeding for years begins to outweigh the benefits, but as a Sanctimommy, you probably wouldnt be interested. unreal. You clearly believe that a woman's time is best spent feeding pre-schoolers from their own breast. [ Reply | More
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what is costly to one person is not costly to another. [ Reply | More
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why leap to this kind of rhetoric. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:21 PM Flag
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You are all kinds of wrong here. Look at the comment "3 years is really ridiculous" and then the "but as a Sanctimommy..." - these comments don't help the conversation. There are real biological benefits to both mother and child, that even apply in the US to do extended breastfeeding and discussing them does not make someone a Sanctimommy. This kind of rhetoric only hurts people. No where does ANYONE on this thread say OP should feel guilty, because she should not. There are sanctimommies on this thread. [ Reply | More
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There are NO sanctimommies on this thread. [ Reply | More
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i agree - none of my kids got formula but was too selfish to last 3 years - good for you! [ Reply | More
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+1. Couldn’t go beyond 18 months. It was exhausting and db started doing acrobatics while on the nipple and stretching it out. Had to put a stop to it. [ Reply | More
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Thank you for doing so. I’m sorry it internet strangers shielded by anonymity are projecting their self loathing at failing to the same. [ Reply | More
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This is incorrect. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 04:49 PM Flag
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I agree. The BF push was intended for welfare recipients to get them off WIC. Didn’t work out the way the govt planned. [ Reply | More
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actually the FORMULA push was from companies trying to make a profit. And you can tell there is nothing altruistic about it because they push it in countries where people don't have clean water, leading to huge numbers of infant death. You want to talk about an evil industry... [ Reply | More
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The breast feeding push is because the health of children and mothers should be a priority over profits. [ Reply | More
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For example, research has shown that the longer women breast feed, the lower the chances of developing both pre and post menopausal breast cancer. [ Reply | More
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it really is appalling what the formula industry did by pushing formula in third world countries in particular where water is not safe [ Reply | More
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^ and I supplemented w/ formula without guilt (as well as bf until 1) [ Reply | More
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No, not in the slightest. The nurses were dreadful, though. [ Reply | More
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I think a lot of stuff with kids is like that. You are trying to do your best at the time so things seem monumental but in the end you are able to look back and put them in to perspective. [ Reply | More
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I felt awful until I remembered I was going back to work. Why do women care about NG and pumping when they leave their baby all day?! The bond comes from spending your days with them, not pumping and BG. [ Reply | More
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BF!! Weird auto correct. I did not pump at work, seemed ridiculous to do so. [ Reply | More
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There is more to it than the bonding. [ Reply | More
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Okay you have mistaken info that is not helpful to spread here. Breast milk itself is extremely beneficial beyond bonding. Pumping is stressful and it isn't helpful to denigrate that when someone women are working hard to do it. [ Reply | More
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My opinion is not meant to benefit anyone. My kids are 8&10, tall, healthy and in a great private. Personally doubt any benefits beyond the first 2 weeks [ Reply | More
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You are spreading misinformation by implying that the only benefit to it is bonding. I am not sure what kind of school they go to or how tall they are is relevant. These are a factor of affluence and genetics. You clearly don't have a science background (which is fine) but your anecdote is not relevant. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 04:59 PM Flag
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It is along the lines of - "I didn't put any of my 8 kids in a carseat and they are all fine!" kind of stuff. Not helpful. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:00 PM Flag
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Imagine how much smarter and more athletic they would be if you breastfed! [ Reply | More
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^^I am joking btw. [ Reply | More
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NP: I pumped, read the paper and it wasn't stressful, just kind of boring. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 07:39 PM Flag
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Largely a waste of my time and more importantly , my energy. [ Reply | More
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I had to stop at 5 weeks and did not feel bad at all. I lasted exactly 2 days pumping at work, getting up at 5am to feed before work. [ Reply | More
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I did it the way I wanted and could do it and didn't care what others thought. [ Reply | More
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I tried (really tried) & couldn't. Took galactagogues, had 3 (three!!!) lactation specialists work with me, pumped for hours to get 1-4 ounces max for a couple months, etc. etc. I was so disappointed my body wasn't able to feed the child I brought into the world. And yet, she thrived on formula, bonded with other people in her life who could feed her as well, and is great now (a middle schooler.) So, since she is my only loin-fruit I am wistful breast feeding didn't work for us, but it is not the be & end all in the universe. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:25 PM Flag
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Ily [ Reply | More
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P.s. do you write professionally? [ Reply | More
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OR: thank you! ILY too. I don't write professionally, but I do love to use my words ;) [ Reply | More
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Heck no. I'm fine. My kids are fine. Then again, I also didn't feel badly about it at the time either. [ Reply | More
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Not at all, but I felt bad then. Only now do I realize that it is a miniscule teeny part of the parenting journey. How you treat your child and support them is much more important. [ Reply | More
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so true and my DC are only 5&7. I was at a 2 yr old birthday party over the weekend and it was hard to even recall back to *2*! [ Reply | More
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I couldn't, but I pumped and DS had breastmilk till age 10 months. There are different ways to provide your infant with breastmilk. [ Reply | More
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No, I just wish I had more support. My mother and mil were pretty useless. I would have appreciated a positive, guiding presence. [ Reply | More
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my db wouldn't latch although I produced tons of milk. expressed the milk and then one of us would bottle feed db. quit when I went back to work. dc is now a pretty great teen who is also really tall and healthy so I think all's good. [ Reply | More
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I did try, but DB was losing weight and increasing bilirubin levels so pediatrician suggested I supplement with formula. I did a combination for 3 mo, and when I had to go back to work, realized that the amount of time I spent pumping at work was an additional hour or two that would keep me from spending time with DB& DH. I think BF is great because it’s kind of like your own personal gift to DB, but beyond the initial colostrum, I do believe the health benefits are overstated, to a degree that fuels a tremendous amount of undue mommy guilt. [ Reply | More
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+1 - THIS - breastfeeding is great if you want to and are able to do it. The health benefits are completely overstated. Check out "Cribsheet" by Emily Oster. So many of the studies about the benefits of BF'ing are incredibly flawed. But the amount of guilt it creates and mommy wars it fuels is completely unnecessary. When my first child wouldn't latch, I was so depressed about it. Made the newborn time 10x more difficult [ Reply | More
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No. I just wasn't made for it. [ Reply | More
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My 80+ y/o mother sighs about it to this day. Apparently I screamed my head off, so she supplemented and eventually stopped. My brother just lost weight (between 2 very close ped visits) and she remains horrified. I nursed my kids for a year and 8 months respectively and heard about it every day. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.11.19, 09:42 AM Flag
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I wasn't able to breastfeed my second DC as much as I wanted -- she was a super hungry baby and her ped gave great advice. That I'm running myself ragged and need to self care and nurse when I can and bottle feed otherwise. I felt badly as I really enjoyed nursing and wanted her to be as healthy as possible. I don't feel badly now. She's thriving, I'm thriving. All is good. You will continue to have other opportunities to care for your baby. Don't beat yourself up because mom-hood is hard work! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.11.19, 03:53 PM Flag
[ - ] 16 college Rep visits by the first week of DC’s high school. Is this common in other schools ? Just wasn’t expecting this at DC’s public high school. Can these visits really enable a foot in the door ? 8 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 04:33 PM Flag
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They are meant to be informative. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 04:46 PM Flag
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A foot in the door? No. But if your dc attends, he can list it on his application as a "contact" with the college, on the apps that ask about it. Or he can mention in the essay that asks Why College X? that he attended the info session at his HS and it really resonated with him when the rep said XXX. [ Reply | More
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Great point [ Reply | More
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The visits count as demonstrated interest, but some sessions are so heavily attended that you do not get to talk to the rep at all, so not much besides a sales pitch really. Some you may be lucky with just few kids so you can make an impression. Also, sometimes the rep is the person who will read applications from your school, but not always. If so, it is more important to make an impression if you can. [ Reply | More
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Make sure your DC registers and/or signs in for the visits. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:26 PM Flag
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Normal, but it doesn't mean anything except that they are getting out there and hope to increase number of applications. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:03 PM Flag
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Pretty normal. There are 12 at DD’s school this week and many more to come. They’re just for information. [ Reply | More
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Why school ? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:36 PM Flag
[ - ] Ideas to help entertain my kindergarten son on the bus? His ride is much longer than anticipated (up to an hour+ on the way home) and I am feeling incredibly guilty. Any suggestions for activities or anything to help keep him occupied? 51 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Audio books. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 04:32 PM Flag
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paper books. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 04:34 PM Flag
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I always thought it's not good for you eyes to read in a moving vehicle. [ Reply | More
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It can make some car sick. But not all. [ Reply | More
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it would me and dc at the time who got really car sick and then grew out of it mostly. I still get car sick even in the front seat! [ Reply | More
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It the movement bothers you, just stop. A bus doesn't move all that fast. [ Reply | More
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Get a subscription for Epic. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 04:34 PM Flag
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At that age my ds loved having one of those old ipod shuffles. He had headphones and would just chill listening to music when we were waiting for his older brother. It was a cheap mp3 player that he could clip to his shirt and it had no screen interface, just a button to pause or skip to the next song, etc. So something like this: https://www.amazon.com/AGPTEK-Shuffle-Portable-Sweatproof-Silicone/dp/B0722KVJM3/ref=sr_1_9?keywords=mp3+player+with+clip&qid=1568133768&s=gateway&sr=8-9 [ Reply | More
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This is the name of it but anything cheap geared for someone who plays sports so therefore more rugged, and comes with its own clip. He can clip it to his shirt. AGPTEK G02 8GB Clip MP3 Player with FM Shuffle, Portable Music Player with Sweatproof Silicone Case for Sports, Blue [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 04:44 PM Flag
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NP DD has a Sony Walkman (it's an mp3 player now, granny moms!). It's been very easy to use and reliable and durable. Not a shuffle -- has a tiny screen for choosing what to play. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 04:49 PM Flag
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yes the shuffle required him to listen to songs or skip forward or backward, there is no screen for going to pick music. I have to look at this new sony walkman! So funny it isn't a cassette tape player! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 04:56 PM Flag
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This is the model DD has: Sony NWZE384 8 GB Walkman MP3 Video Player (Red). I shan't link to it on Amazon, because when I do I get accused of getting kick-backs from them. [ Reply | More
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I would get some little travel games maybe? Like my DS enjoys travel tangram type games -- they're magnetic pieces so harder to lose. Books wouldn't entertain him. He can't read on his own yet, and he doesn't like flipping through picture books. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 04:43 PM Flag
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Read to him? [ Reply | More
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OR: I was under the impression the kindergartener was riding the school bus himself without a parent. If parent is with him, sure, read. [ Reply | More
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OP: Yes, he is on the bus alone! [ Reply | More
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This is a good time to get him interested in books! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 04:48 PM Flag
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OR: He is very interested in books! He loves being read to, but he cannot read independently so giving him some picture books and telling him to just look at the pictures would only occupy him for 5 minutes. [ Reply | More
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np Pearl River Mart has about half a dozen different small magnetic game sets -- parcheesi, a Battleship knock-off, etc. Saw them yesterday at the location on Broadway south of Canal. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 04:53 PM Flag
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My DC had long commute like that for a few yrs,. the kids interact and joke around and entertain each other. what about something to color? or some gadgety games to occupy his hands? like a bunch of mini magnets? or fidget spinner type thing ? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 04:49 PM Flag
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This. This is one of the ways kids make friends and get to know each other. Let him have the time to NOT be occupied with some gadget. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.11.19, 04:25 PM Flag
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Pick him up [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 04:49 PM Flag
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OP: Thanks I never thought of that... I am sure my job won't mind leaving at 2:30 pm every day... [ Reply | More
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np I had same thing w one DC on the bus for an hour. DC was fine. the kids entertain each other. they joke around. they become friends. even though my DC was the last drop off, Dc was fine. hung out w bus driver etc! looked out the window. [ Reply | More
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OK, so here's a radical reply. Why does he need to be "entertained" and "occupied"? The hour-long ride is a great time for him to interact with other kids on the bus, sit quietly and daydream, look out the window and chill, or just be bored. Any of those options is age-appropriate, and there's no reason to feel guilty. [ Reply | More
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NP: I agree with your radical, yet common sense reply. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:08 PM Flag
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+1 kids can be ok staring out the window. joking around w other kids etc [ Reply | More
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OP: I actually agree with you, and wasn't planning on any electronics or anything, but I do think there is a balance between being bored for an hour + straight and having a small something to occupy you/maybe share with a friend or use as a conversation starter. He is the only kindergartener on the bus and the other kids all know eachother already. [ Reply | More
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PP - IMO, you don't have to give him any prompts about how to use the time. He'll figure it out. Just let him be. Is this about assuaging your guilt? Or is it truly about him having a hard time on the bus? . If he complains, don't give him explicit instructions about how to use the time. Just say, "It's down time." [ Reply | More
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OP: We have only had a couple of bus rides so far, but he has said it was really long and he was bored/no one sat with or talked to him. He wasn't upset per se but definitely made me a little concerned and I had also not anticipated such a long ride when choosing the school, so I do feel responsible for him spending nearly two hours a day on the bus. [ Reply | More
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There is no other option for him being picked up and brought home by a caregiver? [ Reply | More
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OP: It is two subways no matter how you do it and my caregiving is also watching my 18 month old. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:31 PM Flag
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How about having her pick him up 2-3 days a week? Gives her something to do w the 18mo. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:36 PM Flag
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ugh. replies like this are exhausting. Nobody WANTS to put their kindergartner on a school bus for an hour. Why does she OP need to justify the whole backstory just to get some suggestions for bus activities. Do you really think that if she could have a personal escort to entertain her child that she wouldnt have thought of that already? jfc [ Reply | More
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+1 and I have been in OPs shoes too. and guess what, my DC had fun on the bus. even just listening to what the big kids talked about. of course they learn some non age appropriate things but isn't that what school life is all about? [ Reply | More
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NP: I was just thinking this. Poor mom is I am sure doing the best she can with whatever her personal circumstances are. It seems clear that if she had other options she would use them... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:51 PM Flag
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She has a nanny who could go pick up the kid a couple days a week. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:14 PM Flag
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it sounds like a pretty bad commute to bring an 18 month along on both ways . think about nap time and bad weather. BTDT [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:22 PM Flag
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make sure he has snacks to eat so he doesn't get hungry [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 05:51 PM Flag
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my DC did this daily for two yrs and was fine w out snacks. [ Reply | More
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in fact the bus didn't allow food [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:23 PM Flag
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Is he into Pokemon cards? My son got into that on the bus home in K and it helped him make friends too. They would trade them and such. Don't think they have any idea how to actually play the game. I even got him this Pokemon encyclopedia to look up each card. Of course, you might not want Pokemon cards to enter your life, and that's fine too! [ Reply | More
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Actually this is really good. Pokémon. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:17 PM Flag
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:22 PM Flag
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OP: Thank you! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 06:42 PM Flag
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Great idea, and I feel bad for not suggesting it. We have so many of the cards. They are great! [ Reply | More
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Great idea [ Reply | More
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I apologize if someone posted this already, but whatever happened to looking out the windows or talking to the other kids? Why does he have to have an object (that will probably get lost)? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 07:20 PM Flag
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Audio book on the iPod shuffle. Magnetic tanagrams. [ Reply | More
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I assume this is an sn school. An hour is too much for k but I understand there may have been no other option. We had many coming this far, the kids get used to it I guess. If not sn school you should rethink as this is really hard for dc. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.11.19, 02:42 PM Flag
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Magazines like Highlights - less likely to get carsick. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.11.19, 05:03 PM Flag
[ - ] London, Paris Amsterdam with two teens or Italy? If the first, what is there to do with them? They are not museum types - thx! 10 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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How about hiking in Italy, Germany or Switzerland. [ Reply | More
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If they wont enjoy museums what do they like? [ Reply | More
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omg [ Reply | More
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This. Ask them what they like to do on vacation and what they would like to see in Europe. Also, they are teens, so make them do half the research and planning. [ Reply | More
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I feel like either one of those choices would be fine but depends what you want to do. There are lots of non-museum things to do in all of those place. [ Reply | More
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What are things to do in London Paris Amsterdam that are not art related that teens would enjoy? Thx [ Reply | More
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Walking the cities, seeing all the monuments. In Paris for teens: top of the Eiffel Tower, Bateaux Mouches down the Seine, Seeing St Chapelle, eating ice-cream on ile st Louis, going to Montmatre, walking through the latin quarter and shopping, sitting at cafes and people watching. In London: London Dungeon tour, Buckingham Palace, riding double decker buses, Bourough Market, London Eye. In Amsterdam: Anne Frank House, riding bikes, walking around different neighborhoods, Van Gogh museum. You don't have to go into all the museums, but pick a few and spend an hour or 2. [ Reply | More
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When my family went to Paris my brother met up with a friend (also on vacation there), bought hash, and nearly got arrested. That might be fun! [ Reply | More
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Sounds like fun to me! -np [ Reply | More
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They had to throw it away so it was a waste but 15 years later he still loves telling that story (and he's still friends with that guy). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 04:46 PM Flag
[ - ] Where would you take the family for a long weekend: Toronto or Montreal? 13 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Montreal [ Reply | More
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+4 for the bagels [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 04:16 PM Flag
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Toronto. Take one day to see Niagara Falls. It's only an hour's drive from Toronto. Take the Hornblower boat into the falls...your kids will love it! [ Reply | More
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Why not just stay in Niagara for the weekend. They could see Niagara on the Lake and Lundy's Lane. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 04:28 PM Flag
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Sorta boring, signed Canadian. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 04:43 PM Flag
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General Topics 09.10.19, 04:46 PM Flag
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My family likes to eat. Lots of things to eat in T.O. but it's very spread out. Downtown Montreal is cuter, more picturesque. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 04:49 PM Flag
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I was in Niagara on the Lake in August with my 10 and 8 year olds. They enjoyed Fort George but other than that, there's nothing to do. It's a town for older folk who mosey along the main street looking in the tourist shops. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 04:48 PM Flag
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This. And Niagara Falls is awful. Touristy and overpriced restaurants. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.10.19, 07:24 PM Flag