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Thank you so much for being a valued member of the UrbanBaby community. We wanted to inform you that we are shutting down the site on July 6th. We are grateful for your participation and support that has helped make UrbanBaby such an important resource to parents for many years.

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[ - ] I am really worried that one day my children's school will close down in the middle of the school day and my children will be left to fend for themselves in the middle of Central Park and I won't know about it until I go to the school and find its now a Gap. 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:05 AM Flag
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funny [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:06 AM Flag
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Gap is not opening any new stores anytime soon. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:07 AM Flag
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are you sure? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:07 AM Flag
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more likely a bank! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:08 AM Flag
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Do we really need all these banks in NYC? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:09 AM Flag
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np: itta. So many damn banks..they are like Starbucks..all over the place [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:11 AM Flag
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in the age of electronic banking - we don't, but the banks want our cash so they open gigantic branches. it makes for very dead streetlife. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:13 AM Flag
[ - ] no sex with husband since 2 1/2 baby except once a yr. still am hot for him and i think its mutual. work/finacial stress seems biggest factor. eek how do i fix this ? i want sex and heat in my marriage. 9 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:05 AM Flag
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Have you tried a vacation alone? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:06 AM Flag
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no, but i think that would force us to be alone and yes would allow for fun. ps i can believe its once a year for us. we were really sexy pre baby and all finacially stuff wreckd us [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:12 AM Flag
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try the vacation, it would allow you to be alone and see each otehr as sexual partners [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:13 AM Flag
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financial worries make people feel really unsexy [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:19 AM Flag
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I have an idea, one question first. What do you each where to bed? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:06 AM Flag
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^^^wear [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:06 AM Flag
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t shirts, but work keeps im home after i fall asleep exhausted from fulltime job and momming [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:13 AM Flag
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What does DH wear to bed? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:15 AM Flag
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nothing [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:25 AM Flag
[ - ] No flames please: did cocaine last night (first time in months) and have been crapping all day. Is this normal? 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:05 AM Flag
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Yes. Although it's not really the drug, but the baby laxatives your dealer mixed into it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:06 AM Flag
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Are you joking? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:06 AM Flag
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first time in months?? Are you proud of that or something? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 02:07 PM Flag
[ - ] what are your plans for the holiday weekend? want to live vicariously as we have absolutely nothing planned. 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:02 AM Flag
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I second the vicarious living since all I have is a soccer tournament [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:03 AM Flag
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Nothing planned. I actually am looking forward to doing NOTHING. No running around. PJs as late as we want. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:05 AM Flag
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I wish I could just relax like that. Dh is compulsive and HAS to do something. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:11 AM Flag
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Wedding in Boston On Saturday. Then a friend's place on Nantucket. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:05 AM Flag
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oh I love Nantucket. Haven't been there in years (since before 4yo was born). Would love to go again. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:15 AM Flag
[ - ] Anyone know a good place to get a bikini wax in jackson heights? TIA 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:02 AM Flag
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ick [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:03 AM Flag
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thanks for the useful replies, people [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:23 AM Flag
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Isn't it against the law in Jackson Heights? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:03 AM Flag
[ - ] Anyone on whose certified G&T letter STILL hasn't been picked up? Mine was delivered on May 21, according to the tracking site. I didn't do it RRR. 18 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 05.23.08, 10:02 AM Flag
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yes ours--ours got to their mailbox on May 13 and still has not been picked up. We did RRR [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:12 AM Flag
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Mine hasn't been picked up either. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:21 AM Flag
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Mine was delivered on May 2 (mailed April 30). [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:23 AM Flag
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why is it to hard for the DOE to pick up the darn letters--any of them all of them? at most it is 3000--they had to send out 16000. They deal with millions of kids all the time. Are the flummoxed by this or are we all just scrutinizing it too much? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 11:25 AM Flag
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np; Why are we all so trusting that we have the story straight? Is it possible that the postal worker who gave out the original info has it wrong somehow? Of course. Everyone just needs to RELAX!!! None of us really know anything, despite some who think they do. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 11:27 AM Flag
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exactly. I am very sure that by the time all of us receive the placement from the DOE the tracking system will still show that the letter is being held at the post office. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 11:29 AM Flag
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if only you followed the simple instructions the DOE gave you [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 11:28 AM Flag
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If you go back and read the letter the "simple" instructions say "mail in the enclosed envelope OR send to this address..." it did not say "send ONLY in this envelope if you want us to pick up your mail. DO NOT SEND IT CERTIFIED or RETURN RECEIPT REQUEST" nobody disobeyed anyone [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 11:46 AM Flag
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What drives me crazy is the fact that they did not give us the option to drop off in person. If they had provided that option it would have saved me a lot of grief. (And I would have spent a lot less time on UB obsessivly checking posts regarding Certified Mail. Hmmm, maybe the DOE and UB are in this together.) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 11:29 AM Flag
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or you just could have used the supplied prepaid envelope [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 11:32 AM Flag
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Mail gets lost. The only way to know for sure something has been delivered is to hand deliver it yourself. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 11:33 AM Flag
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yes, it does get lost but the chances for that are minimal. People get run over by cars on the streets every day. Do you still go outside for a walk? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 11:39 AM Flag
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Disagree with that. I have had at least 2 important items lost in the mail in my life. Have never been run over by a car. Also there are steps to take to make sure that you don't get run over by a car. Not much you can do once you give something over to the PO. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 11:42 AM Flag
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Given the number of people who did not get their scores in the mail we already know things got lost in the mail during this process [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 11:46 AM Flag
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Also, there is another post claiming that "hundreds" of letters were lost. Don't know if it's true or not. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 12:12 PM Flag
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it's on UB. it must be the truth. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 12:32 PM Flag
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I just got a notice 5-minutes ago that mine was "delivered" today (mailed 5/9, notice left at post office 5/13) maybe they are updating now. I did RRR [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 11:32 AM Flag
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Me too. Phew. Have a wonderful weekend Ladies. See you the week of June 9th when the placement letters might or might not start coming in. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 11:43 AM Flag
[ - ] I think they are trying to kill me. My office is freezing. 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:00 AM Flag
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Mine too! It's so cold in here in the summer. Enough with the a/c. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:04 AM Flag
[ - ] 3 1/2 hr car trip tomorrow. Do you or DH sit in back with 9mo DB while other drives or both adults in front? 14 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
Toddler 05.23.08, 10:00 AM Flag
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both in front, he'll falll asleep [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:01 AM Flag
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kid sleeps, we sit up front [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:02 AM Flag
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DH drives and I sit in back w/ 2 DC (4 yo and 11 mo). If they both fall asleep or 4 yo is occupied watching DVD, then I'll move up front. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:03 AM Flag
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I'm sorry, but I find this odd. np. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:03 AM Flag
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Find what odd? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:04 AM Flag
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Sitting in the back with your children. I would rather talk to my husband in the front, honestly. They're only an arm's reach away, no? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:05 AM Flag
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Oh wait, you mean only on long car trips, right? Never mind! I was reading this as an "all the time" thing. Sorry for hating. :-) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:05 AM Flag
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or: yes, only long car trips. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:07 AM Flag
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or: it's just easier to deal with them when I'm in the back. I can comfort the baby if he cries or if he needs a bottle. My 4 yo sometimes gets carsick and I've been able to get a bucket in front of her in time. It's a little less comfortable, but easier. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:06 AM Flag
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op: this is my thinking with my 9mo. I can give him a bottle or food if he gets hungry on the road. But I also realize if we lived in the 'burbs and drove more I'd probably have had him by himself in the back many times by now [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:07 AM Flag
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why odd? when my dds were infants and babies I sat back there. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:13 AM Flag
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Until what age? I feel bad leaving db in the back, facing backwards, by himself. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:14 AM Flag
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Never! I had a neighbor who was still sitting in back with her child when they were 18 months old. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:03 AM Flag
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I sit in back (don't drive). 6mo would never fall asleep on her own in the car and eats every 2hrs so I also need to be there to feed her. And need to be there just to occupy her, as city baby she isn't used to the whole sitting strapped in a seat for several hours thing she'd go nuts if we left her alone. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 11:52 AM Flag
[ - ] Lame, I know, but can I buy store bought vanilla icing and color it red and blue with food dye? TIA 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:00 AM Flag
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yes [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:00 AM Flag
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of course! Although red is not really going to work because you need a ton of it! If you're near a craft-store try and get some Wilton no-taste red. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:01 AM Flag
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Right. I guess the cupcakes will be pink white and baby blue [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:04 AM Flag
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people will get the idea. :-) [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:06 AM Flag
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np: you could also do white and blue frosting with red sprinkles or decorations, or buy red fondant from a craft place and cut it into shapes [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:15 AM Flag
[ - ] As much as I hope we get a spot at citywide, the thought of losing a year's tuition at the private pre-K we are enrolled in makes my stomach turn. 30K down the drain. it's better than paying that much for the next 9 years, though! But still...I wish there was a way to make them release us from our obligation to pay in full. Especially since they can fill the spot. Oh well. Maybe we won't even get offered a spot in citywide. 35 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
NY Schools 05.23.08, 09:59 AM Flag
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tax deduction [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:00 AM Flag
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not if you don't go there. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:06 AM Flag
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why would you say that? anyone can make a tax deductable donation to a not for profit school. This is what is usually done if someone pulls out after they have paid. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:09 AM Flag
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This only works if the school is willing to give you a receipt indicating that it was a donation, not a tuition obligation. BTDT and private would not do this. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 11:55 AM Flag
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wonder why [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 08:32 PM Flag
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no pity from me, if you are willing to take the citywide spot and forgo the money you don't need it [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:01 AM Flag
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np: what do you mean "don't need it"? Is it your position that nobody sacrifices to send their kid to private school? That every child there has parents who can afford to burn $20-30K? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:05 AM Flag
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OP: Trust me, we need it. Lots of sacrifices went into spending that money. That's why I'm hoping we can go public! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:11 AM Flag
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can you keep making those sacrifices for the next 13 years? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:46 AM Flag
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of course if we have to. But it would be much nicer if we didn't have to! that's why we are hoping for citywide placement. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 11:06 AM Flag
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With hardly any public pre-k seats available the thought that you would take one from someone who needs it when you have already paid 30k for one at a private and will just give up that money really pisses me off. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:07 AM Flag
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OP: I have NOT taken a public pre-K spot. My child is entering public KINDERGARTEN. For private she would be in pre-K but for Public she would be in K, as is the case for kids born between September and the end of the year. I have not taken a spot from anyone, but if offered a citywide placement I will give up our private spot and leave room for someone on the waitlist at the private Pre K. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:09 AM Flag
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General Topics 05.23.08, 10:09 AM Flag
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OP: Thank you yes you are correct. And I WILL take the spot if offered. I did not apply only to turn down the public spot. If my DD gets into a public citywide for K then I will accept the spot and give her privat Pre K spot up, leaving room for someone on the waitlist. just wish I could gt the money back. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:12 AM Flag
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It sounds like she would do it for K citywide not a public pre-K [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:10 AM Flag
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Dim bulb. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:12 AM Flag
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Oh, so nobody who's kid got into private should be holding out hope for public? Get real. Not the parents' faults that the DOE notifies months after the privates. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:13 AM Flag
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I hope that you realize that you are complaining to many of us who cannot even dream of paying for a single year of private tuition. So don't expect much sympathy here. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 11:25 AM Flag
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Please, this board is full of people who can afford tuition. YOU are in the minority on this board. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 02:39 PM Flag
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what do you think average household income is on the board. An what HHI could afford 30k? To me that is an enormous amount of money to just let go. What would have been so terrible to have kid go to a regular school the first year and after knowing about G&T results, if negative, applying to the private the next year? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 08:30 PM Flag
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What is "a regular school"? You mean zoned public? Not an option. And from a financial standpoint, I'd lose more than the cost of tuition if I sold my apartment and moved in this economy. Currently own a large apartment with a bedroom for each of my two children plus an extra office/guest room/junk room. Very nice for NYC and if I sold now I could not find the same for even close to equal money. No way moving for public K was going to be worth it, and zoned public K is not an option for us. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.24.08, 04:46 AM Flag
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I could afford it with no retirement savings, living simply and no vacations. I will be in his position next year. My zoned school, ps145, sucks. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 07:00 PM Flag
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They need a disincentive for people to do exactly what you're doing. They don't want to have to scramble and do more work. You signed a contract and knew exactly what you were getting into. Just because you changed your mind doesn't mean you don't have to honor it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 02:54 PM Flag
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The only public that is as good as even a non-tt private is Anderson imo. I certainly wouldn't turn down private for Nest or TAG. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 02:55 PM Flag
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Why not? I have a spot at a private but I am hoping for NEST (Anderson is too much of a long shot)- if we get in I plan to fork over the dough. 1 year of tuition is better than 13. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 05:36 PM Flag
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Nest just isn't all that. It in no way compares with a private. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 06:56 PM Flag
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There was no comparison between the work being done at NEST vs many of the privates we toured this year. NEST blew them away, at least at the K-3 level [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 07:00 PM Flag
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ITA from the private schools I toured the work at NEST is better than some privates. But it certainly seems a bit sterile. No great art on the walls. Academically great - but what about the other stuff? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 09:00 PM Flag
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I saw a lot of art on the walls at NEST. If my dc ends up needing more/better art instruction (or music or dance or athletics) we'll provide that after school. I wouldn't go to a private school because of the art on the walls, when I don't even have a sense of my own dcs artistic abilities/inclinations. And I have trouble with the word "sterile" and NEST. It was clean, and orderly, from what I could tell. Which I greatly prefer over messy and chaotic, at least for my calm dc. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.24.08, 05:44 AM Flag
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I never toured any privates, but the student work I viewed at NEST was very mediocre compared to what I saw at Anderson. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.24.08, 06:00 AM Flag
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Please expand -what is in a private that is not at NEST or is in Anderson? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 08:33 PM Flag
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I wouldn't do it for Anderson [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.24.08, 04:57 AM Flag
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grow up -- and for god's sake, don't complain to the times if you end up losing the tuition. think of the 20K as very pricey school insurance -- you paid for the certainty of a great school for your kid. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 03:27 PM Flag
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I'm in the same boat. So I knowhow you feel. If you find a good answer pls post to UB. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 05:37 PM Flag
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np: same boat here, too. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 08:37 PM Flag
[ - ] Posture, ladies! 0 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 09:56 AM Flag
[ - ] After much research on this very slow Friday at work I have decided I'm "TEAM DENISE" even if Charlie does make me chuckle sometimes on *Two and a Half Men.* Thoughs? 14 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 09:56 AM Flag
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I think they are both losers. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 09:58 AM Flag
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op- yeah, you're probably right. But that's how slow this work day is. lol [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 09:58 AM Flag
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How about this one: Have you noticed how HUGE Jolie's hands are? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 09:59 AM Flag
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NO! Where can I see them? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:00 AM Flag
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lol I think there is a set of pictures on Dlisted. I am just always surprised by the size of her hands... and the veins in her arms. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:01 AM Flag
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Yes, the veins. OK, I'm going to dlisted now. I can't wait until she gives birth- she AND Gwen, actually, because I can't tolerate one more maternity maxi dress. Enough already! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:02 AM Flag
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My favorite new rumor: the names she wants to use [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:04 AM Flag
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Do tell! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:04 AM Flag
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damn.. now I have to find it.. something to do with the names of the Gemini twins [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:09 AM Flag
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Castor and Pollox after the twins of her birth sign [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:10 AM Flag
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I really think she looks like a (very skinny) man in drag. You've confirmed my theory [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:01 AM Flag
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I think she looks like a bobble head with Mr. Potato Head teeth [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:03 AM Flag
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true, the Potato Head buck teeth with the big lips. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:04 AM Flag
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That is such a horrible show. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:28 AM Flag
[ - ] I know i'm the last person to get info on the BPA, but my db doen't take a bottle. He takes a sippy, can anyone tell me if those are ok? or which brands are? I use a Nuk and an Avent one as well as a cheap juicy juice one that the company sent.tia 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 09:55 AM Flag
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op, anyone?? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 09:59 AM Flag
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Avent sippys are OK [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:01 AM Flag
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we use the thermos ones, they are bpa free [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:02 AM Flag
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easy to find this info online. google bpa sippy cups [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:15 AM Flag
[ - ] Anyone diagnosed with endometriosis? Did you have trouble ttc? 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 09:52 AM Flag
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yes. had a lap. got pregnant right after. Although my original dx was just a guess, i don't think they officialy know for sure unless they do a lap. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:06 AM Flag
[ - ] Anyone else who runs for exercise, but really hates it? 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 09:52 AM Flag
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I hate all forms of exercise. It is a serious chore for me. I don't formally exercise anymore (I have a 15-20 min walk to/from subway) and am much happier, although I know I don't look as good and am not as healthy b/c of it. I have to find time / desire to get back into it. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 09:56 AM Flag
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I hate hate hate exercise. I [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 09:57 AM Flag
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Actually, I hated exercise with a passion until I started running! [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 09:57 AM Flag
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love cycling [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 09:59 AM Flag
[ - ] I didn't know that your shouldn't swim in the first few weeks of pregnancy. Bummer. 9 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More ]
TTC 05.23.08, 09:49 AM Flag
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you also shouldn't fart [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 09:50 AM Flag
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lol. or wear purple [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 09:51 AM Flag
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or sit at more than a 45 degree incline [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 09:56 AM Flag
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or raise your arms above your head [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:00 AM Flag
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or sneeze [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:02 AM Flag
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really? why? [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 09:50 AM Flag
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RE just told me this today. I have infertiily issues and they want to avoid potential bacteria. [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:01 AM Flag
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oh, sorry. I shouldn't have made jokes. really sorry [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 10:02 AM Flag
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I've never heard this [ Reply | More ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 09:57 AM Flag
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