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[ - ] what is harder--going from 1 to 2 dcs or 2 to 3?? i thought 2 was VERY hard for 4/5 months and am not expecting #3.. 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 06:03 AM Flag
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oops am NOW expecting #3.. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 06:07 AM Flag
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I'll let you know in 3 mo. I'm expecting #3 too and am a little nervous because I don't have hired help and can't afford it. I have 2 dc in 2 diff. schools with 2 diff. schedules (full day/half day). It will be tough but I'll figure something out [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 07:18 AM Flag
[ - ] Any thoughts on Madewell clothes? 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 05:48 AM Flag
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yes, my thought is stop spamming me! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 05:58 AM Flag
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boring [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 06:22 AM Flag
[ - ] does anyone know of a water park on the west side of the city it might be more downtown but i think it is on the esplanade somewhere. thanks 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 07.15.08, 05:36 AM Flag
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There's one on Jane Street on the river, and there's another (better) one on 23rd and 11th - not right on the water but it's much nicer than the Jane Street one. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 05:45 AM Flag
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thank you so much!!! do you know if there are any links to the parks so i can find out what is there? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 05:51 AM Flag
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Just google Chelsea Waterside Park. I was just there this weekend. Lots of sprinklers, short on shade. Nice, but no swings or anything like that and nothing else but Chelsea Piers around there. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 06:07 AM Flag
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just to be clear, these are not water parks like an amusement park water park. They are regular city parks where the sprinkler element is more elaborate than at a regular park. have you been to Hecksher park in central park? They are like the water element there. Totally great, imho, btw, but not like an amusement park. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 05:59 AM Flag
[ - ] how many people do you know whose husbands got laid off recently? 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 05:33 AM Flag
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none- but i know someone who is about to get fired. His wife may respond if you repost next week. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 06:46 AM Flag
[ - ] Have jury duty today but have to bring DS with me. Sitter cancelled and DH out of town...should I call the jury office before I head over there, for what I dont know? Its grand jury duty. TIA 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 05:30 AM Flag
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you actually can get out of jury duty if you care for a young child..i just did. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 05:34 AM Flag
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just go down there with a copy of his birth certificate, too. You can probably go directly to the room where hey handle all of that stuff - I want to say its room 139 at the main building, but look on your summons. They will give you a postponement at least [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 05:37 AM Flag
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op: ok, will just head down there then with birth certificate. TY [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 05:40 AM Flag
[ - ] I have had chronic pain in my left leg on and off for two weeks now...I feel like it is really tight and it is difficult move around. What dr. do I call? Primary is on maternity leave right now! TIA 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 05:10 AM Flag
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Possible sciatica? Slipped disc? Try an Orthopedist. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 05:14 AM Flag
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i would call whomever is covering for your primary. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 05:27 AM Flag
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ita [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 06:17 AM Flag
[ - ] Flu shot or Flu mist for three year old? Does it matter? 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 05:09 AM Flag
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shot and I think the mist is only 5 yo+ anyway [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 05:58 AM Flag
[ - ] Any ideas for a hostess gift. We 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 05:05 AM Flag
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I brought a set of jams from the farmers market - in a basket. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 05:07 AM Flag
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how about a notepad with either her first initial or the last name initial? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 05:36 AM Flag
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nice hand soap or lotion always works.. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 05:37 AM Flag
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I once did fresh potted herbs in a nice basket [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 05:38 AM Flag
[ - ] Anyone else give up spot at private for a G&T? After many years at a private they want the full tuition even though they can fill the spot? Before you say a contract is a contract, there is also fairness in business. We couldn't have told them earlier since the DOE moved so slow and we aren't moving to another private. Personally, just think in this sort of business it would be nice to treat people decently. They filled the spot and we lost our deposit and offered a second check as a donation. Think there is something wrong with an institution with no heart. Any thoughts? 23 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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New York City 07.15.08, 04:52 AM Flag
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i don't think they can require you to pay the full tuition if they filled the spot. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 05:21 AM Flag
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ITA. This happened to us, though we went to another private. We refused to pay and the school took us to court. We prevailed, based on the fact that they were not financially hurt (they filled the spot). The school appealed (!) and we prevailed again. Personally, I wonder how the schools use all this bonus money they are extracting from parents in this situation -- does it go into the main budget (and is it a line-item every year?)? Does it keep tuition lower for existing families? (no) Does it go into a slush fund? Probably. Does it go into the financial aid pot? Doubtful. It's despicable, really. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 05:24 AM Flag
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do you have a citation for your case? The op could then send the case to her school to make her case that they should drop it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 05:43 AM Flag
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will you say what school? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 06:50 AM Flag
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If your still on. I would so appreciate knowing when this happened if you can't tell the school. To the other poster.....I understand it is a contract but we had circumstances that we needed to go public if we could. After all our years and the efforts for the school (and we paid full boat) I thought they would have some consideration. We had consideration towards them. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 10:28 AM Flag
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OR with the lawsuit: I really don't feel comfortable giving the school/case information on here. However, a lawyer who specializes in this should be able to write a pretty convincing letter, siting the specific laws. Sorry, it was a few years ago -- I can't remember the phrase our lawyer used. Maybe a lawyer on here will know: it's the fact that the tuition is NOT mitigating damages the school has suffered, it's punitive toward the parents, as withdrawing before the school year starts means they can (and did) fill the spot with another tuition-paying child. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 04:59 AM Flag
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^^^also, have a look at your school's 990. When a school brings in $10 million over program costs in a particular year it seems ludicrous to fork over $30K. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 05:08 AM Flag
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My thought is that we were in the exact same position, read the contract, and understood very clearly that in order to avoid paying the full year's tuition, that we were going to have to withdraw, before hearing back for sure on G&T placement. So my thought is that I'd be pissed off if I found out the private school was letting other parents not honor the contracts. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 06:17 AM Flag
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If they replaced the student...why would you be pissed off. If it didn't hurt you or the school? Wouldn't you want consideration if you had to leave? I am not talking about leaving so late they couldn't fill the spot? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 10:30 AM Flag
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Because we were left hanging with a lot of uncertainty between when when we had to notify the private (in order to avoid losing full-year tuition), and when we received G&T placement. finding out that others didn't read the contracts (or just disregarded them), and thus didn't deal with that uncertainty for almost 2 months, is annoying. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 11:03 AM Flag
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i have to say, i side with the schools on this. it's a slippery slope. once you let one person out of their contract with no penalty, someone will want out because their dog died or they were wearing the wrong perfume when they signed it. people will get angry because families whose dc got into a g&t have the right to change their mind at the last minute but no one else does. it's really not the private school's problem, and they shouldn't have to adjust their wait lists to accomodate potential g&t families. that's just my two cents. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 01:13 PM Flag
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what about a penalty but not full tuition. If a family needs to leave do to a financial situation and they can easily fill their spot why not find a happy medium. Full tuition seems extreme. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 04:01 PM Flag
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that's what non-refundable deposits are for. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 04:46 AM Flag
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A contract IS a contract, but legally the school has to mitigate damages. If they fill the spot AND get a deposit and poss first payment from you and full tuition from new student, then they have NO damages. I understand WHY the school expects people to honor their contracts - because if people were not held to that standard, then too many people would find it easy to back out and the school could end up with more spots to fill than it wants to fill with the applicants available at that time. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 01:31 PM Flag
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But a school is not just getting money from a family--it has spent a lot of time interviewing and testing. They seek to balance a class, making offers to students they want. Filling a place late in the season may place a school at a disadvantage--many desirable students have accepted other schools. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 04:48 PM Flag
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If they filled the spot then they are covered. It's the cost of doing business. They had no additional incremental expense to fill the spot. They saw both families anyway. I agree with the judge that the school should only collect from the party withdrawing if there are financial damages. Otherwise it's a scam that the private schools have in the marketplace. They have to anticipate this as these are the facts of their city's market, whether they like it or not, just like anyone else selling their "product." [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 12:53 AM Flag
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Because they've anticipated it, that's why they have the contract wording that they do! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 04:33 AM Flag
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^^^By the way, go read your contract now. I guarantee there's nothing in there outlining what the school is required to provide. The all-in contract is so one-sided it's crazy. Any school could eliminate their entire athletic program or music program or decide to put 30 kids in a class instead of 15 if a teacher quits and still the school is protected and the parents can do nothing. Obviously, this would effect later years' admissions so they won't do it, but in case of budget emergency, the school is completely covered. The parents who sign are not. It's preposterous. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 04:55 AM Flag
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Waivers are always overturned in contracts when there is no financial injury to the institution. They just know that most people won't pursue it. Each year, I've met people who have been in the OPs situation and prevailed. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 06:45 AM Flag
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np: how do you answer the article from the NY Times then? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 07:03 AM Flag
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Poor representation. Or other circumstances that might not have been printed in order to make a better story... Don't believe that everything you read is all that there is. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 07:40 AM Flag
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And they have the power of fear on their side. They make parents jump through 1 million hoops to get into the school, then once offered a contract, who on earth is going to challenge the contract before signing? No one. So they have the leverage to put another scare tactic into the contract you sign -- that you have to pay for the whole year, which in theory sounds totally fair but in reality is only punitive to a family for deciding to leave. Because god forbid the families have any power whatsoever in this situation. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 04:52 AM Flag
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I think that when there is such disparity in the relationships -- as there is in the family/private school relationship -- the privates are being bullies here in enforcing this part of the contract. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 06:54 AM Flag
[ - ] NYC moms, when do you start to pay for dc on the bus, train? Do I have to pay for my 6 yo? TIA 16 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 04:36 AM Flag
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I don't pay for my 6yo, but shes small. I'm not sure. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 04:57 AM Flag
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you just asked this inane question on YBM [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 05:02 AM Flag
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OP- yeah and? are you the UB police? useless tw@t [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 05:26 AM Flag
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You smell [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 06:19 AM Flag
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44" is teh rule regardless of age [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 05:14 AM Flag
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OP- TY [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 05:26 AM Flag
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yes, that is correct, although my 6 year old is about this height and I don't pay for her. We take public transportation every day and no one has said anything. Once an MTA employee says something, I guess I'll start paying for her then. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 05:41 AM Flag
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Does your six year old take up a seat or go on your lap? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 06:19 AM Flag
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Old policy. No longer applies. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 06:58 AM Flag
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Its by height, which is really odd. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 06:21 AM Flag
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not really. So hard to judge age, height you can know [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 06:59 AM Flag
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A tad discriminatory based on looks don't you think? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 07:00 AM Flag
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so how else would you do it? as I posted below, kids have no IDs to prove their age [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 07:02 AM Flag
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How is it discriminatory? Height is not "looks"; not like they are saying if you are ugly you have to pay. It is an objective measure [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 07:07 AM Flag
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Exactly, they have a mark in the bus to measure. Kids don't carry around IDs to prove their age. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 07:01 AM Flag
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height is easy to judge vs age, but it is also unfair. It means if you have a short dc they get to ride for free for longer and a tall dc means you have start paying earlier..this could be a 3 year spread in ages. That said, I started paying for my dc when he was 7 and looked ridiculous squeezing under the turnstiles. Only place I don't pay is on the bus coming from Chelsea Piers...the driver just waves all the kids past - usually a lot of them, big and small [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 07:17 AM Flag
[ - ] How many of you guys text message? I feel kind of out of it- don't use Facebook or any social networking sites & I don't even use my cell phone that much. Should I try harder or does it even matter? 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 04:06 AM Flag
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I don't do anything you listed except for my cell. Everything else doesn't exist for me [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 04:22 AM Flag
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I'm with you on all of the above. I don't care so I wouldn't say to try harder. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 04:45 AM Flag
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I text, but im not on facebook or anything either. I have no time for that BS [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 05:50 AM Flag
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I'm same as you. I think I'm better off actually. People become chained to all these things. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 06:26 AM Flag
[ - ] so today is my 40th birthday. feeling blah about it. 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 03:37 AM Flag
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happy bday! I just turned 40 at the end of May. Embrace it..I hear the 40's is even better than 30's. I still feel like I'm 28yr old [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 03:43 AM Flag
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You're young, you're healthy, you have a great dh and child(ren), good friends & everything you could possibly want- be thankful [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 04:05 AM Flag
[ - ] So how did you deal with child care, etc., for #1 when you went to hospital to deliver #2? Starting to think about logistics ... 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 11:52 PM Flag
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We have some friends on call. They are away a lot in the summer, though, so we have some backup babysitters that offered to come over if we need them. Basically, my mom will come when #2 is born, but needs some hours to get here, so anyone else would pitch hit till she arrives. Now it looks like I'm having a scheduled C, so point is moot and my mom will just come the day before. GL to you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 01:49 AM Flag
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my parents live nearby and they stayed with #1 for the entire hospital stay [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 03:46 AM Flag
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^^^they will also stay with #1 and #2 when #3 arrives [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 03:59 AM Flag
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I am pg with #3 - my parents are about 30 mnutes away and came for #2 but my mm passed away 2 ears ago and I am pretty stressed about what I am going to do - don't think my dad can handle them by himself. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 04:17 AM Flag
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planned it so that, if labor was on weekend, I'd go it alone. You aren't really alone--nurses are so supportive and DH really doesn't do much. but DD arrived on a Wed and #1 was in daycare. good luck. it will work out. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 06:00 AM Flag
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My dh stayed home with #1. Neither of us wanted him to be at the birth anyway. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 06:20 AM Flag
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Call in the grandparents, relatives, your dh (except for delivery of course). This is what they are there for! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 06:24 AM Flag
[ - ] anyone ever have an umbilical hernia while pregnant? what did it feel like? i'm 99% sure i have one. i assume you treated it, if at all, after giving birth? 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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Expecting 07.14.08, 11:46 PM Flag
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I had one after my DB was born. I had it repaired and have been terrified that stitches would rupture during this pregnancy, but so far so good. My OB said they don't repair when pregnant, so even if it did I'd have to wait till #2 born. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 01:51 AM Flag
[ - ] I haven't been back since they changed the site. How is it? 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:10 PM Flag
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:12 PM Flag
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What other site? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 05:14 AM Flag
[ - ] How many of you have cheated? How many years into your marriage were you? Did it help things, hurt things or end things? 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:03 PM Flag
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I have been married 25 years. I had an affair with a married neighbor 11 years into my marriage. It hurt things in my marriage, and my H and I had a lot of trouble because of it, but I experienced things with the neighbor that I had not before so I can't say that I completely regret it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 11:35 AM Flag
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I've been married 4 years and have not cheated. I have a good marriage. My husband can be very annoying, but I love him and wouldn't want to mess things up. We have a 3 year old, and the most important thing to me is giving her a good, drama free family. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.15.08, 01:22 PM Flag
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I have been married for 19 years and have been having an affair for the past year. It's been wonderful for my marriage. I feel so sexy and desirable and I'm have sex with my husband much more often now. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 11.18.08, 01:31 PM Flag
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married 9yrs&exactly same situation! thought I am only one! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 12.24.08, 07:41 AM Flag
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And who are you guys having the affairs with (co workers, neighbors, uh strangers)? just curious! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 12.24.08, 08:07 AM Flag
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