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[ - ] I'm really glad we have an African American candidate, I think it's wonderful. But I can't help thinking he's going to lose, because his campaign, his supporters, and the press all just don't get it. They don't get how sad it is that the a woman who was equally, if not more, qualified was trashed and demonized, and her supporters were shouted down constantly. They don't get that you can't just order people to get into their place and support you. They don't get that the way she was treated was wrong, and people will remember that. That they have not only alienated women, but other core parts of the democratic party. They don't get that it is not racist to think of yourself as a "hard working white american". I wish I could believe he will be elected, but I don't think he can. 65 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:13 PM Flag
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Dear lord. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:14 PM Flag
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I think he can, but also think it would be a very good thing for him to choose her as his running mate. Basically telling her that she lost and it's time to disappear does nothing except piss off very close to half (or more than half, if you count MI and FL) of the voters. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:15 PM Flag
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np: I voted for HRC in February. The only person I'm pissed at right now is HRC herself. You shouldn't assume that 1/2 of the voters at mad at Obama, polls show it's a much much smaller percentage. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:16 PM Flag
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ITA, from the exist polls on Tuesday over 60% of HRC voters will vote for Obama in November with no issue. And some of the ones that say they'll stay home (15-20%) will reconsider. He will need to work on that but has time to do it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:18 PM Flag
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I get that, but don't get how it could hurt for them to just both be on the ticket. She should be on his short list anyway. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:20 PM Flag
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It could hurt to have her - she wants attention only on herself, her DH is exactly the same way, they have already done this before and will have a very hard time playing second fiddle, I don't want another strong VP a la Cheney, even if it's a good politician. I could go on and on. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:22 PM Flag
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He said today she was, but after this open campaign for the spot he can't afford to choose her. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:23 PM Flag
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HRC will lose him far more independents than she will gain him Democrats. She is the embodiments of the Karl Rove, turn-out-the-base, get 50% plus one and forget the independents politics... it's just antithetical to his campaign. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:23 PM Flag
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the democrats are turning on themselves. When you equate the Clintons with Rove, you will lose. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:24 PM Flag
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np: Sorry but HRC has used a number of tactics right out of Rove's playbook in this campaign. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:25 PM Flag
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So did Obama. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:26 PM Flag
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nnp: Yep. The Clintons were some of the founders of slash and burn politics. Sucks when you get burnt by your own playbook. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:28 PM Flag
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he is doing the same thing, but in a sneakier way. It will bite him in the ass eventually. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:34 PM Flag
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I completely agree with you that he is doing the same thing. The Clintons and Bush have ensured that there is no other way to possibly win our votes. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:35 PM Flag
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so stupid to blame them, time after time. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:36 PM Flag
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It's nothing more than the truth. It started back with Reagan, and really soared (by both sides) during Clinton's administration. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:38 PM Flag
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but he can do it and remain blameless, while she is evil. good luck with that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:38 PM Flag
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He needs to do a lot of it in GE otherwise Rove and Co. will eat him alive. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:35 PM Flag
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It's the precise same philosophy: that the electoral map is unchanging, that the base is all that matters, that there are few true independents, and every election will be about getting Ohio and Florida and winning by 20 electoral votes or less... forever. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:28 PM Flag
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what makes you think it will be different this time? He is more of the same old same old [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:33 PM Flag
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np: The electoral map has changed significantly. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:34 PM Flag
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this is magical thinking [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:37 PM Flag
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Nothing magical about it, but FL is not really a swing state any more. VA and CO definitely are. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:38 PM Flag
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He'll never tell her it's time to disappear. But the joint ticket is a disaster waiting to happen for both of them. I think once Hillary takes the time to think about it she will realize it too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:16 PM Flag
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She doesn't want it. You people are clueless. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:33 PM Flag
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That would be a HUGE mistake. If he choses her he will lose. Too many of the swing voter republicans hate her. He can get the working class white vote in many other ways, Edwards, Strickland, etc. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:19 PM Flag
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ITA. But the main reason he can't choose her is that by going publicly after VP spot, Hillary backed him in the corner and if he gives into pressure and chooses her GOP will have a field day painting him as a weakling that can't make one decision on this own. He can't afford that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:22 PM Flag
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That is true too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:24 PM Flag
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This makes a lot of sense. I hope she finds her own place though, whether it be in the senate or another appointed role. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:27 PM Flag
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He will offer her the healthcare cabinet spot and hopefully she will take it, I think she would get it right on second try. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:30 PM Flag
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the main reason he can't choose her is because he is only where he is because he helped turn her into a monster in his supporter's eyes, and now he can't use her for support. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:35 PM Flag
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You are crazy. She is the one who went negative big time after he started winning. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:37 PM Flag
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okay then [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:39 PM Flag
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I really hope youre kidding. No one can be that delusional. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:18 PM Flag
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It's really incredible that she doesn't see that this is politics as usual or that you could say nearly the exact same things about HRC and her campaign. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:21 PM Flag
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She trashed him far more than he trashed her. You need to get over it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:19 PM Flag
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I am over it. I am not voting for him. I think he's going to lose. Hopefully, she won't be his vice president and he can lose on his own. He made a big mistake in winning this way, in not courting the votes he needs. If he does win, I'll be glad for him, but I don't think he'll be a very effective president. I just don't have much faith in him, and in the way that he won the nomination. He seems to be a product of the political system, and when he claims not to be it seems hypocritical to me. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:23 PM Flag
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I liked you better when you were cut and pasting rants from feminist websites [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:26 PM Flag
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np: It is curb mom, isn't it? Maybe she was really pro-Hillary after all. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:31 PM Flag
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She's not pro-Hillary. She's pro-McCain, still trying to sabotage the Dems. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:33 PM Flag
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or: I always believed she was. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:34 PM Flag
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He courted every single vote. It was Hillary who said hard working white americans won't vote for him, remember? He tried what he could to get people, his team knocked on any door they could in every state. What else could he do? Some people just prefered HRC> [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:27 PM Flag
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Seriously? OBAMA is a product of the political system but Clinton is not? You have got to be kidding me. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:31 PM Flag
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they both are. that he claims not to be will be his undoing. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:38 PM Flag
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You again. We GET your point. Many just don't agree with it. Doesn't mean we don't get it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:20 PM Flag
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She did not get trashed any more than Obama has. I am offended by sexism as much if not more than most people, and I agree that sexism played a role, but it was NOT the only factor. She made many mistakes in her campaign, and was very heavy-handed in the end. Still, if by some strange quirk she had managed to pull it off, I would have not only voted for Clinton but worked for her to get republicans out of office. Any democrat who won't do the same because his/her feelings are hurt by a rough political process is extremely self-centered as far as I'm concerned, if they'd rather let the republicans win than get over their anger. And, btw, I was offended by the divisiveness of hardworking white American, since I fail to see the difference between hardworking white and hardworking black Americans, or the point of phrasing it that way, unless the goal was to divide people [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:20 PM Flag
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because the hard working black american will vote for him just because he is black. But the hard working white americans need another reason to vote for him [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:26 PM Flag
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np: You just outed yourself. This is a McCain stooge, ladies. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:27 PM Flag
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nope. you wish. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:40 PM Flag
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I don't agree with your premise that black people will vote for him just because he's black (kind of insulting, suggesting black people have no political views beyond color). It's more that Clinton was suggesting somehow that she understands hardworking white people (and not black people?) and Obama doesn't, because his father was black, which is, well, offensive. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:31 PM Flag
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Oh, woman up. He does not need to apologize for winning. Someone loses every campaign, they get nasty things said about them and it sucks. Obama himself has been exceptionally gracious, but if you're determined to sulk, no one can stop you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:20 PM Flag
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ok, thanks. Very gracious of you to allow me to vote any way I want to. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:26 PM Flag
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np: Again, your language choices are outing you. You are the same person who has been posting for ages. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:29 PM Flag
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It's true. You come on with some BS about how you're delighted that there's an African American nominee, but you're "afraid" he will lose--then you get ticked off and say you've already decided you're not going to vote for him. Face it--the only acceptable restitution for you would be for him to step down and hand the nomination to its rightful owner, Hillary. As that is not going to happen, I bid you good day. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:31 PM Flag
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I find it offensive that you assume that when I identify as a hard working white person it is automatically racist. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:47 PM Flag
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Who said you're racist? (I don't even know if you're hardworking.) I just think you're disingenuous in saying you think his nomination is "wonderful." I think you're deeply angry your candidate lost and that despite what you say about his campaign needing to learn lessons, *nothing* they do would get you to vote for the guy who had the temerity to take her nomination away. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:54 PM Flag
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you're totally wrong. I don't even like her that much. But she does represent my views better than he does, she does seem more competent, and I hate the way she has been treated. I am happy about his candidacy, it's much better than a female candidate being beaten down by a white man. I can feel more than one emotion at a time. I am more sad than happy, that is true. I would have voted for him, but I can't now. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 07:00 PM Flag
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Go tickle yourself & get over it - ENOUGH [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:22 PM Flag
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: ) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:40 PM Flag
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People treated Hilary like crap, and as I woman that really dissapointed me. I like and admire Obama but a lil piece inside of me was rooting for Hil. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:27 PM Flag
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You are ignorant and honestly not enough to be interesting [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:38 PM Flag
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Okay! I really will never vote for him, but I hope he wins. And I won't vote for McCain. But I will be happy in Obama loses. Figure that out, brainiac. : ) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:46 PM Flag
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np: I actually get that. It's how I felt about Hillary. Nearly feel that way about Obama. But when the chips were down, I think I would have voted for Hillary rather than risk McCain - my fear of McCain would have trumped all other feelings. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:49 PM Flag
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I'm not afraid of McCain. I lived through both Bushes and Reagan. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:51 PM Flag
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clapclapclapclapclap!!!! ittttttttttta! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 07:42 PM Flag
[ - ] My theory on private vs. public - it's like flying in first class vs. coach. They both get you to exactly the same place in the end, but it's the tradeoff of less hassle, more comfort and extras, etc. vs. the price. 38 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:11 PM Flag
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>except if you count arts, music, and other extra classes private kids get, it's not exactly the same but if you mean by same place the colleges these kids will be going to, then yes. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:19 PM Flag
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Interesting point. I went to Princeton and a few of my public school friends had a hard time their first year. They were fine in the end, but they felt they didn't quite have it down. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:22 PM Flag
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I think public school kids kick @ss on math/science (and some private kids have a hard time) but in humanities, I agree. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:25 PM Flag
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as a public school product, i would agree that's a common experience at college; private works in a level of self-structuring, public doesn't instill that. so when these kids first leave home, guess which ones will thrive without the oversight of parents? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:25 PM Flag
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NP: I just have to laugh at this. Personality is much more of a determining factor than private vs public in this regard. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:31 PM Flag
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well i guess you can laugh in the face of our hs valedictorian who went to princeton and went back to visit former hs to talk to seniors about the critical importance of structuring their time once they enter cokkege. she really struggled with it; her parents were well educated folks too (dad hs calculus teacher with multiple degrees in humanities & science). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:39 PM Flag
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Isn't that one girl? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 07:34 PM Flag
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My dd in public can't sleep unless she does her homework. I keep telling her to relax, it's only 3rd grade! I don't know what makes you think private school kids are better at structuring their study time -- wouldn't this be a matter of motivation and maturity? And what about all the Bronx Science kids, etc. -- can't they cut Princeton? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:40 PM Flag
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It is about motivation and maturity, but it is also about how a school leads a child to develop skills. Does a school give long term projects? Are there tests on a regular basis? Are there midterms and finals? Does a child have a chance to confer with teachers about work in class they may not understand? (np) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 07:09 PM Flag
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^^^ the conferring with teachers happens during a weekly enrichment period, where students make appointments to see teachers and go over classroom material they may not understand (6th grade, private) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 07:19 PM Flag
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Yes. 7th grade, public. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 08:09 PM Flag
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I agree with this, especially in the younger grades. Private elementary schools spend a lot more time teaching study skills, organizational skills. The public schools don't have this luxury b/c even the great ones have to spend a lot of time of test prep in 3rd and 4th grade. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.06.08, 06:22 AM Flag
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Yes, us Bronx Science grads handled Princeton and the like quite nicely [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 08:17 PM Flag
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That should be "We Bronx Science grads" -- making the point about the lack of humanities in public [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.06.08, 06:18 AM Flag
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But that is you and your friends and your experiences of course. Thousands of others feel the same as you; thousands of others had the opposite experience. It's all anecdotal. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:35 PM Flag
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I went to Princeton after public high school and felt totally prepared. In fact, most of the people I knew sho suffered academically had gone to private school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.06.08, 07:01 AM Flag
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I liken it to working out. If you can afford a chef and private trainer, great. If you can't, then you have to more yourself, but doesn't mean you are doomed to be fat. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:12 PM Flag
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makes sense [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:12 PM Flag
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interesting analogy.... although in that example, the flight attendants in coach would be better educated and make more money. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:13 PM Flag
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Teacher here (with private and public experience): technically, a public schol teacher has more education requirements -- but they may have gone to a crappy program. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:20 PM Flag
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And private school teachers never go to a crappy program? I could tell you of a few who did. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:36 PM Flag
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This is not true at all for many kids. There are some that will end up in the same place no matter what, but there are many that won't. You have to know your child to decide whether it would make the difference for him/her. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:15 PM Flag
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I disagree....there are very very few publics which have 100% attending college. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:24 PM Flag
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Yes, but if you are a kid who is likely to go to college, you will probably go whether you attend a public or private school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:29 PM Flag
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Yes becasue those parents who spend $20k a yr for kindergarten will obviously make child go to college. Public school includes 1st generation immigrants etc - cultures that don't push college [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:29 PM Flag
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Yes but it is an advantage to be surrounded only by other kids preparing for college. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:33 PM Flag
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yes & no - pushes the kids because it's more competitive, but hanging with only the same type of people with the same mindset is missing a little of an other kind of education & understanding about our town [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:36 PM Flag
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well you could have grad from my public HS w/a 4.0 and outstanding GPA and still not be in top 10% and not get into desired state univ. or Vanderbilt - second choice. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:40 PM Flag
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^^^^sorry I meant outstanding SAT (was natl' merit, etc.) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:40 PM Flag
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This is absurd. First generation immigrants push college far more than anyone else in the same socio-economic bracket. They understand that's their ticket to better life and do everything to make it happen. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.06.08, 06:56 AM Flag
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I think pretty much all of the selective NYC public HS have close to 100% going. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:37 PM Flag
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a highly selective ... is not like a reg public...not a "coach" ticket [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 07:26 PM Flag
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(I can't reply to the above post but this is answer to "not a coach ticket"...) Are the selective NYC public HS like Premium Coach then? Business Class? Besides I would venture to say that most college-bound, middle class kids are either at a selective NYC public HS or private/parochial school. No one goes to a zoned public HS. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 08:08 PM Flag
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lol. Zoned public HSs are full of kids, believe it or not. And when your dc is starting K you have no idea whether s/he will be Stuy material. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.06.08, 07:08 AM Flag
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Education is not just flying to a destination. It's about what you see and learn along the way, and what you come to know and love and be passionate about. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:47 PM Flag
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true but both private and public school kids receive an education - see and learn along the way [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 07:15 PM Flag
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Depends on where you live. In New Orleans there are about 3 impossible to get into really good public schools all of the others are horrendous. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 07:12 PM Flag
[ - ] Anyone else really annoyed by Top Chef? They both screwed up, but Lisa is a regular offender. 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:09 PM Flag
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ITA [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:23 PM Flag
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ITTA. I'm actually upset about it! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:58 PM Flag
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I am so sick of Lisa (aka UL), but figure they kept her around for the drama. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 07:03 PM Flag
[ - ] 5yo ds pretty much ignored everything I told him to do--and everything I told him not to do today. Finally told him to go to bed without usual routine (books). He, of course, said no. Had to threaten him with all sorts of dire consequences just to get him into his room. Feel as if I really screwed that up somehow. 8 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:02 PM Flag
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funny but I don't remember posting this tonight. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:05 PM Flag
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Ha. I know that it's typical 5yo behavior, which is why I feel as if I screwed up.... (op) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:06 PM Flag
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I just swept up an armload of action figures and left him crying in the room. He came out 45 minutes later to give me a kiss goodnight and go to the bathroom, just as I was thinking to myself "some times there are bad days" you didn't screw up. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:10 PM Flag
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Thanks [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:12 PM Flag
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We had a day like this last week. It ended with me yelling at DS that if he was going to be a brat all day long he shouldn't expect dessert or a story. I'm not a perfect parent by any means, but I do think it's okay to be honest with them. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:08 PM Flag
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Thanks. Sounds like something I would say to ds. I feel as if I yell too much though and often say things that I shouldn't. So he didn't get the dessert and the story, right? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:12 PM Flag
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yep, and he apologized the next morning. I felt like a shit at the time, but now that I think about it I had no reason to. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:13 PM Flag
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thanks. Here's hoping my ds gets the point too! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:21 PM Flag
[ - ] would it freak you out to rent a house in larchmont that doesn't have an alarm? it scares me because of the stories of people breaking in when families are sleeping. 8 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:57 PM Flag
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so put in an alarm. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:03 PM Flag
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can you install one? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:03 PM Flag
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isn't it very costly? we will be there for just one yr. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:06 PM Flag
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I think it was free to install and a monthly fee. If it helps you sleep. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:14 PM Flag
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thx [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:29 PM Flag
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what stories? I guess i should read the paper more often. I feel very safe. I don't know how mujch to install, monthly is 30 something [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 07:15 PM Flag
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i grew up in larchmont and now live in a nearby town and have slept without an alarm for 45 years. really! just lock your doors and go to bed and forget about it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.06.08, 09:13 AM Flag
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ita, I live in neighboring Mamaroneck and everybody I know feel very safe here. The Larchmont is not Mt Vernon or the city mind you, but you can put in an alarm system if you will feel much safer. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.08, 08:48 AM Flag
[ - ] To NEST parents: What feedback have you received from your K about school. Are they excited about going to school? Do they come home with what they did in school? Do they talk about thier little friends? What does the homework consist of in K? Workbook type stuff? 9 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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www.goodcityliving.com and go to Helicopter mom blog. You will see everything. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:58 PM Flag
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No - that's all NEST middle school. Nothing about NEST K [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:00 PM Flag
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This is not correct. Helicopter mom did not have a child in K at NEST. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:01 PM Flag
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My K likes school. Has several friends. He loves some of his specials -- others not as much. This is partly about the teacher (he loves the art teacher and the chess teacher) and partly about him. He brings some stuff home. Not as much as pre-K but that is to be expected. Homework is worksheets (especially math), spelling/sight words, and a reading log. Then there is the odd project. (This week it involved bringing in pictures of family/self/house/etc.) The NEST homework horror stories are overblown in my experience. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.06.08, 09:32 AM Flag
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just wait for higher grades [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.06.08, 09:54 AM Flag
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Some kids like to be challenged. Actually like homework. really! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.06.08, 10:17 AM Flag
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I know several older kids. I don't hear any more complaining than I do from nieces/nephews in burbs. Time will tell. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.06.08, 10:29 AM Flag
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^^^sorry should have been a reply to "just wait..." -OR [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.06.08, 10:31 AM Flag
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I ditto the K parent who responded previously. My K loves school and has several friends. She loooooooves the music, art and Chess teacher. She dosen't like the spanish teacher. Next year they are offering language choices of spanish or mandarin so we are switching languages because of the teacher. Other than that, she gets homework once a week and has several days to do it and the occasional project like taking pictures of the family/self/home. The older kids there I know say they have lots of homework but it doesn't sound that bad. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.06.08, 11:02 AM Flag
[ - ] Anyone know a woman who was a sex addict? Friend's fiancee turned out to be one, and I must admit I'm shocked. She admitted to really risky behavior, through years of their relationship. 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:51 PM Flag
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I know of one who is supposed to be...but I have a heard time imagining it based on her looks. She could play the Church-Lady role on Saturday Night Live...but from what I understand, she's a real freak. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:53 PM Flag
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This woman is attractive, but very reserved. I remember saying to DH that she seemed too good to be true - but I didn't expect that she would have cheated with strangers dozens of times. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:56 PM Flag
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We never really no someone until..... Just look at Elliott Spitzer. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:57 PM Flag
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I guess so. But my friend is lucky he didn't get an STD from her. She never used protection, would make up excuses not to have sex until she got a bloodtest (seems that she would do a bunch of guys every few months on a busines trip). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:02 PM Flag
[ - ] I hate the format of this new board. I post something that before would have gotten a quite a few good responses, and now its almost nothing. They need to fix it. 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:47 PM Flag
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anyone? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:49 PM Flag
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crickets . . . [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:49 PM Flag
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I just posted something similar a few posts down. The only good thing about this new friggin format is that it makes me stay away from UB and do other more constructive things. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:56 PM Flag
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it's not the format, it's that so many people freaked out and stopped coming here. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:02 PM Flag
[ - ] Wow, someone from DOE just called me (8:45pm) to ask if it's correct that we didn't apply for any G&T school for our dc. I guess they're working overtime to get this going. 63 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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New York City 06.05.08, 05:47 PM Flag
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Really? Do you live in a district with a struggling G&T - wondering if I will get a call [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:49 PM Flag
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District 3 but we're in Harlem. They Fedexed me a new application (bec of misprint)... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:52 PM Flag
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so they didn't have any application from you, or there was a misprint? I don't understand... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:01 PM Flag
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Apparently, they initially mailed us a wrong application. So, a week or so later, they fedexed us a correct application which we never submitted since we already have a school and weren't going to send dc to DOE school anyway. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:04 PM Flag
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>btw, maybe they called bec dc scored 99 (olsat/bsra) but didn't apply to any G&T... or bec dc has an ethnic name and they wanted to balance the class at Anderson (despite the lotto system)? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:50 PM Flag
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you're pulling our legs [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:54 PM Flag
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No way. A guy (I won't disclose his name) just called and asked. I can't believe anyone at the DOE is working this late but it's true. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:55 PM Flag
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wow. I am actually impressed with this. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:57 PM Flag
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I am, too. Which is why I ran over here to post. I think the mayor/Joel Klein know how upset the families are about prek situation and don't want to mess up K. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:59 PM Flag
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I'm impressed too. But bit concerned at the same time because our telephone no. on the application was totally wrong and I couldn't update it after many calls to the number indicated on the instruction sheet. So if they don't get our application, even if DOE people work their a*s off, I wouldn't get a call, I guess.... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:02 PM Flag
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You could call DOE and ask if they have your app'n... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:03 PM Flag
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called several numbers (incl. G&T office, Student enrollment office, no human voice, only voice messages. I left message in the earlie4r in the process, but gave up after not getting any responses.) -- if you know which no. or which person would be the best contact, let me know!! Pleeeeeese!!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:06 PM Flag
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OP: the guy from DOE called me from this number. 212-374-0553 Not sure if he's working from home or from DOE office. Try it, never know. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:09 PM Flag
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Thank you ! You are so kind. Congratulation for the Hunter acceptance! I'll not bother him tonight, but I'll try to give this no. a try tomorrow morning. Many thanks!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:11 PM Flag
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You're welcome. G/L!!! I wish you well!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:12 PM Flag
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What was dc's score? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:09 PM Flag
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oh crap. ours was wrong too. yet another thing to worry about. ugh. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:06 PM Flag
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I think they called us bec dc qualified for citywide but didn't get a submission (maybe that's unusual?). Maybe they're doing citywide first before they do district G&T? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:07 PM Flag
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:00 PM Flag
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Okay I just checked my cell phone out of curiosity, nada. But you said their was a misprint on your original application, right? May be that is why. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:01 PM Flag
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may i ask why you didn't apply for a G& T school? with a kid with 99 (boy or girl?) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:59 PM Flag
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:00 PM Flag
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congratulations, and thanks for this post. very interesting. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:04 PM Flag
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Thank you and G/L to you all. I can't imagine having to wait all this time... and it's almost July! ugh, I feel for you but at least DOE is working nights, so who knows. Maybe next week. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:05 PM Flag
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Many, many of us had incorrect phone numbers on our forms. I wonder how the DOE knew the OP's correct phone number. Was hers actually correct on their form? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:12 PM Flag
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Hmm... they had our phone # from the application to request Olsat testing. Obviously since we didn't submit G&T application after we got the score back. And, yes, they had wrong phone # printed on the application to us. I didn't think they knew our correct phone #. Apparently, they do have the correct phone #, though they misprinted it on the application they mailed to you with the score. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:16 PM Flag
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Did anyone have a correct phone number on their application? Ours was wrong, I revised it on the application after not hearing back from them about it. Interesting. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:19 PM Flag
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>btw, I'm OP. Just to be clear, they printed wrong phone # (our home #) on the G&T app'n but they managed to call us, so they do have the right phone #. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:21 PM Flag
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Thanks for responding. That is very interesting that they would have searched back into their files for you to get the #. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:21 PM Flag
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I think they must have the data in the computer (though it failed to print correct # initially). I just wonder if they bothered to call us bec of 99 & ethnic name. Maybe they're (Anderson) trying to balance the class since they don't have onsite anymore by name? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:24 PM Flag
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I sure hope so. We are in an underrepresented district and ranked Anderson first (also have an ethnic name!). But who really knows. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:26 PM Flag
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If this is true, I believe the babies born from now on in the city will all have ethnic names :) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:28 PM Flag
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lolol [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:29 PM Flag
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My dc has a super duper ethnic name - no calls from the DOE making sure that we didn't forget to apply [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:29 PM Flag
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Just a guess but 99 with ethnic name is the ticket to Anderson. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:36 PM Flag
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Ha! Whatever it takes, baby, whatever it takes [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:30 PM Flag
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So may be we have a good chance to get into A? Our district doesn't have district G&T k, and our name are sure ethnic-y! At least I have one hopeful (even though it is just a hope) info :-) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:33 PM Flag
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Depends on the ethnicity. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:34 PM Flag
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What I read into this is that we are probably not getting letters next week. I predict it'll be the week of June 16 that letters go out. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:14 PM Flag
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Since the scores were sent out staggered, citywide will go out next week, I think. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:15 PM Flag
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I didn't know the scores were sent out staggered... we were on vacation. So did they send out the top scores first? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:20 PM Flag
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Yes. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:21 PM Flag
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NP: The score letters did seem to come in waves, with the highest scores in the first bunch. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:22 PM Flag
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OP: I think they're doing ANderson first. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:17 PM Flag
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I agree. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:19 PM Flag
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wouldn't they do all 99s first? I thought the idea was that they did a lottery of all 99, assigned them their top choices as available and then went to 98s.... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.06.08, 04:57 PM Flag
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i thought they took a lottery of 99s. the 99.1 got its top choice but handled each app and went down the list to fill the highest choice for that person then on the next. are they optimizing across the scores? trying to give 99s as many 1st choices as they can? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.06.08, 06:20 PM Flag
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Let's do some tea leaf reading here. I'll go out on a limb. The OP's report suggests that they're looking to balance out the citywide schools geographically and possibly in other ways. If this were a straight lottery by computer, why would they care about whether or not OP had returned her form? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:23 PM Flag
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I thought so, too. They will try to balance at least gender. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:25 PM Flag
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yep, that's what I think. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:26 PM Flag
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could you be reading too much into the fact that this particular person got a call? Maybe they are checking on all of the people who didn't respond. I remember reading somewhere earlier on this board when people were freaking out about certified mail that someone spoke to the DOE and heard they would be calling people from whom they had not gotten letters [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:45 PM Flag
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This is very possible. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:48 PM Flag
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:48 PM Flag
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Not really: 2,320 qualifiers for an entry grade. Say 80% returned their letters that leaves just about 464 people to call. If they assign 20 people 24 names each to call that is not a big deal (or 10 people 46 people to call) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:55 PM Flag
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Okay, but I somehow doubt that the DOE would be as efficient as this. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:57 PM Flag
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I don't know--to me that has bureaucracy written all over it! (delegate tasks in easy to digest pieces--no creative thought needed) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 07:04 PM Flag
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YOU ARE READING TOO MUCH INTO THIS. We got a call too. Very American sounding family in D3. They just wanted to confirm that we did not submit our G&T selections (which was correct). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.06.08, 01:43 PM Flag
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score??? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.06.08, 07:10 PM Flag
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Slightly off topic, but how far up into Harlem does District 3 go? I thought that central Harlem was District 5. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:29 PM Flag
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np - It goes up to 122nd or so [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:34 PM Flag
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Thanks [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:35 PM Flag
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123rd st [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:34 PM Flag
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Doe messed up big this year. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.06.08, 06:21 PM Flag
[ - ] This new board is so friggin SLOW!!! What on earth happened? Did everyone leave UB because of this new CRAPPY format? This is a drag. 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:46 PM Flag
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agreed. I hate it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:51 PM Flag
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i know. i'm forcing myself to answer posts that i'm not even interested in just to keep things moving. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:53 PM Flag
[ - ] does anyone what know whats goign on with youmom? site is down 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:46 PM Flag
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it has been down for a while now, I am so upset and I hope it is temporary. I wasn't on this afternoon, but maybe she said something about the site being down. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:05 PM Flag
[ - ] How is the selection of baby stuff at Kmart? Heading out to the hamptons and need to grab a few things, thought I would stop at the KMart in Bridgehampton. Good idea or bad? 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:46 PM Flag
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what were you looking for? The selection is pretty good, depending on what you need. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:51 PM Flag
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need a pack nplay and a bottle warmer(room is far from the kitchen and its my inlaws). probably should buy a folding tub. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:56 PM Flag
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They should have all that, but they don't have much of a selection of each item... for instance they will have a pack and play, but only one kind (and a cheap kind) So if you're picky about what type of pack and play then get it before you go out there. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:01 PM Flag
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OP: It's my first db and she's only 3 wks. What am I looking for in a packnplay?! I want one that is safe and probably not so cheap. ugh. don't know wha tto do. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:55 PM Flag
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What do you need? I have bought several baby things there, selection is decent depending on what you want. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:53 PM Flag
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we do Target on our way out - there are at least 3 along the way, not far from the LIE. You can go to the Target website and find Target stores "along a route" - pretty cool. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:06 PM Flag
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The KMart in Bridgehampton has a great baby section - was just there last weekend [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:26 PM Flag
[ - ] when i sweat my chest,upperback and arms itch like crazy. What is this? 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:45 PM Flag
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Don't know, but it happens to me too [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 06:28 PM Flag
[ - ] etiquette/grammar question: in address labels, does dr. rubin tovell make sense or just dr. tovell? 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:43 PM Flag
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Dr. Rubin Tovell [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:44 PM Flag
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for a personal mailing? don't use labels [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:46 PM Flag
[ - ] what percentage of the usa is hispanic? what percentage is black? What percentage is white? 1 Reply [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:43 PM Flag
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13% black, ~15% Hispanic, around 70% white ~ 5% Asian - I know that adds to more than 100, but those are not exact numbers - look at the last census for exact ones. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.05.08, 05:48 PM Flag
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