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Thank you so much for being a valued member of the UrbanBaby community. We wanted to inform you that we are shutting down the site on July 6th. We are grateful for your participation and support that has helped make UrbanBaby such an important resource to parents for many years.

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[ - ] How are your teens handling isolation? My 16 yo is very upset. She misses her friends excitement etc. Younger daughter is ok bc more of a loner. How do I help my 16 yo. Don’t want her to become depressed 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 01:01 AM Flag
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DD stays in her room all day. 14. Seems to be in a pretty good mood but I don't think this is good. Thankfully she goes back to school mid-August [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 01:03 AM Flag
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Same thing with my DD 13. I try to encourage her to do non-screen activities, but there's only so much I can do. She seemed OK until this week, but for the last few days she's become increasingly anxious. It doesn't help that some of her friends have been getting together in a non socially distant way. (We are in NYC and we are not seeing friends unless masked and outside and distanced.) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 01:25 AM Flag
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14 yr old DD has gone out to meet a few friends in a nearby park. They sit on the grass and chat with their face masks for about an hour and then go home. Little visits like this has really helped. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 01:40 AM Flag
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My teen never plans to leave home again. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 09:15 AM Flag
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encourage her to go outside more! meet up with friends outside with masks, etc. help them think of activities to do [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 03:27 AM Flag
[ - ] One thing I find interesting on this board is how convinced some people are that their wishes represent the *only rational way* of seeing a situation. The rental and backyard BBQ OPs are good examples, and we see it a bit with schools: posters asserting that it is obvious that schools MUST reopen or absolutely won't reopen, because it suits their preferences, and they are utterly baffled that there is any disagreement on the subject. I wonder if these people were spoiled as children, or what the genesis of this attitude is. 17 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:44 AM Flag
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I’ve noticed this too [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:47 AM Flag
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Yeah, you typically see this kind of blind confidence in their own beliefs in men. But these posters seem to be women... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:48 AM Flag
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I think everyone has blind confidence behind the screen. Especially those who can’t express that when they are not behind the screen. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:52 AM Flag
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sometimes I express views on UB which are not 100% my views, not to troll, but as a way to think through an issue. I guess it's like a devil's advocate type of thing. To be clear, I usually see some merit to the idea, and post it as a way of hearing feedback or sharpening my understanding. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:57 AM Flag
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Right, but if you are seeking feedback/understanding, you are not furiously arguing with anyone who disagrees with you and insisting that they are objectively wrong and stupid and don't understand, right? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 02:09 AM Flag
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There’s no consequence to being wrong and if it’s turns out they are right they just to walk around and tell themselves in their head “I told those ladies on UB! i was right!” Since no one actually admits to going in here IRL. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:54 AM Flag
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Social media and the internet has made this worse IMO. I also think highly educated people can be quite guilty of this. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 01:28 AM Flag
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+1. I cannot believe former co-workers who are highly educated and the articles the post on Facebook claiming they are gospel. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 01:33 AM Flag
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This article helps explain: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/30/smarter-living/why-youre-probably-not-so-great-at-risk-assessment.html?surface=home-living-vi&fellback=false&req_id=418217866&algo=identity&imp_id=783288957&action=click&module=Smarter%20Living&pgtype=Homepage [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 01:34 AM Flag
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Politics is like this today, too. No nuance. You are SANE. Or you are RACIST. Or you are RIGHT. Or you are CRAZY. Or DEPLORABLE. And each side sees the other as not just misguided, but INSANE. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 01:40 AM Flag
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With current politics we have become polarized because many of our politicians have become so extreme. And there isn’t much nuance with racism. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 07:29 AM Flag
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With current politics we have become polarized because many of our politicians have become so extreme. And there isn’t much nuance with racism. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 07:29 AM Flag
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it's just frustration. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 03:57 AM Flag
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welcome to the world. where've you been? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 11:04 AM Flag
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OP: I've seen this in the real world, but not to this extent. I guess if someone is so resistant to considering other viewpoints in the real world, I just wouldn't engage, whereas here you see the whole thing play out and they keep doubling down. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 11:47 AM Flag
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true dat. also young generations have lost the ability/opportunity for honest debate, preferring echo chambers and safe spaces to hide out from reality. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:38 PM Flag
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The flip side of this conversation is the lemming mentality on this board, whatever the tone of the first responses is often carried on in all responses and loses focus on the question at hand. The rental OP yesterday was frustrated by the broker but everyone kept saying she should pay the rent, which she was doing either way. Also there are a few nutters who respond over and over to the same post [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:18 PM Flag
[ - ] DH got news that he will be furloughed or laid off. I am already laid off on unemployment. I hope that the unemployment is extended. Things are about to get rough around here. 10 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:28 PM Flag
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I'm sorry. Which sectors are you in? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:34 PM Flag
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Non-profit and service industry. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:35 PM Flag
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I hear you. I’m an airline employee and I don’t know if I will have a job in a few months. I’m on leave now hoping I have a job to come back to in September. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:41 PM Flag
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I'm sorry. You are not alone; these are rough times for many industries. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:49 PM Flag
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I'm very sorry. Hoping for the best for your family. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:04 AM Flag
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I’m sorry. I think it’s going to get much worse before it gets better. Bunker down and hang in there [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:06 AM Flag
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I am really sorry, that’s terrible. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:32 AM Flag
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I’m really sorry. While it’s not much, there are opportunities to pick up some work in the gig economy- drive for Uber, clean for Handy, shop for Instacart. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:47 AM Flag
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me too. As a single mom. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 02:05 AM Flag
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Same here. Dh was furloughed a few months ago and now I’m being furloughed. I’m trying to stay positive. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:26 PM Flag
[ - ] Taking bets on when the DOE will let us know what the plan is for school. Is there any chance they will give us a heads up in say early August? Or is that a pipe dream? 53 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:07 PM Flag
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Was just thinking the same thing today. Fear that it will be end of August. 3 days into the summer vacation with no camps and no vacation planned, I'm already losing my mind. Counting down the days until dcs are in school whether in the building or remote. It's awful. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:13 PM Flag
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+1. I'm dying here. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:47 PM Flag
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Well mayor just said no eating inside at restaurants so.... why would he let kids and teachers crowd inside a school? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:33 AM Flag
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This is exactly what they should be doing: prioritizing schools over restaurants, bars, salons, sporting venues etc. We get a certain amount of risk to spend as a community, and we should spend it on what matters: https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/06/26/nation/reopening-schools-scientists-say-proceed-with-caution/ [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 02:18 AM Flag
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Becauase they will be masked. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 11:26 AM Flag
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I am NOT excited about remote school. I'd rather let them play on iPads, frankly. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 01:00 AM Flag
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I wasn't that excited about remote school either, until the first day of summer vacation on Monday when they had nothing scheduled! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 01:16 PM Flag
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There’s no way that any NYC schools will reopen in September [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:13 PM Flag
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You can keep saying this but you have no more information than anyone else. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:31 PM Flag
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It’s common sense. Which is not very common on this board [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:06 AM Flag
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Please just enjoy CT and find a new message board! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:21 AM Flag
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Why CT? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 02:26 AM Flag
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I understand that it seems like common sense to you, but do you understand that your opinion=/=objective reality? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:22 AM Flag
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I think I know you! Upper West Side, right? And you insist to everyone that there will be no school all day?? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:30 AM Flag
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There are two moms on the UWS moms board who could be OR. This is all they post over and over. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:52 AM Flag
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I know one of them, then. She doesn't just post. She emails. Texts. It's non-stop. I don't think anyone wants to engage. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 01:41 AM Flag
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I think there are lots of people that think this. I live downtown and am pretty convinced it won’t be in person at all. I don’t want to be right about this but I just don’t see how it could be. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 02:29 AM Flag
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^^I talked to a few others yesterday and today who believe the same [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 02:29 AM Flag
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A friend who is a teacher (public) told me BOE is working on a plan to bring the youngest kids back as much as possible. Zero discussion to date about HS kids. Not even on the table. Trying to get the young ones back at least part time so parents can return to work. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 07:32 AM Flag
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HS kids teachers said no plan from DOE, no guidance, schools left to figure out themselves [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:42 PM Flag
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I kinda tend to agree. No way DOE will get their S* together. They can't get soap into the bathrooms on a regular day. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:41 PM Flag
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My crystal ball says they will announce the 3rd week of July. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:42 PM Flag
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Magic 8 Ball says Ask again later. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 01:59 AM Flag
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No before middle of August. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:06 AM Flag
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They have to announce in July so parents can make plans. Of course plans can change but presumably schools need time to get classrooms ready. Did you see Scott Stringer demanded an answer by 7/3? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:28 AM Flag
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It's the DOE. You know better. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:43 AM Flag
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I'm a teacher. Here's what happens to "get classrooms ready". The custodial staff cleans everything, wax the floors, etc. That is being done now, whether we go back or not, just like each year. Then, about a week before teachers come back for meetings, some staff come back a prep their rooms. Some more, just do things as school starts. That's it. There isn't anything else to "getting classrooms ready". Principals and sped teams are working on the sped schedule, which every single other scheduled thing in the school revolves around. Then specials are scheduled. But that can all happen at home. You will not know what is happening for sure until about 2-3 weeks before school starts. This is how the DOE does stuff. The best thing for parents to do now is to make 3 different contingency plans. One for DL, one for hybrid, and one for full in person. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 01:17 AM Flag
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General Topics 07.02.20, 01:22 AM Flag
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General Topics 07.02.20, 01:22 AM Flag
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DOE Teacher too - what kills me is that even though custodians wax floors - they throw our furniture around and we have to slave like dogs in order to get it set up the right way. I fear that corners will be overlooked and still unclean. We need plexi barriers and such - I am pessimistic and my school building has an amazing custodian - so it's not on him- he's just severely understaffed for what needs to be done. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 01:23 AM Flag
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You know the virus isn't lurking in the corners of a room that's been sitting empty for six months...right? Hopefully you don't teach science. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 02:45 AM Flag
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You do know that people will be in and out of all those rooms in the days before school starts? Doesn't matter if it's been empty for 6 months if 10 people were in there yesterday. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 06:03 AM Flag
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Unless you are licking the desks, touch surface based transmission has been shown to be rare. What is the DOE doing to make sure that schools have hand sanitizer, working sinks, SOAP and paper towels in every bathroom, PPE for staff and students, wipes, etc?? Did they order the stuff or will it be last minute scrambling again? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:46 PM Flag
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or: My post was referring to exactly this - the DOE is broke and I work in an amazing school with kids who have no resources - there is no PTA or class parent situation to do a drive for hand sanitizer and wipes - [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 01:20 PM Flag
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It should not be the PTA or parents doing this. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 01:44 PM Flag
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My kid’s probably going to lick the desk. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.20, 05:06 AM Flag
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I teach kindergarten. Kids lick desks, each other. They sneeze all over each other. They pick their nose and wipe it on the big rug. They don't wash their hands after going to the bathroom. And many, many other disgusting things. I've seen kids put their hands down their pants, scratch their itchy bottoms and then wipe poop on papers or on the rug. Yes for real. These are not rare events. And yes, this is gen ed. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.20, 01:32 PM Flag
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Just because logically they have to does not mean they will or can. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:43 PM Flag
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Make sure you don’t attend a BBQ until schools open! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:46 AM Flag
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The fewer people who attend BBQs, the more likely schools can reopen. How is this difficult for you to understand? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 02:16 AM Flag
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We live in North Carolina; our state announcement was supposed to come today and they delayed (likely hoping things improve). Schools are opening on 8/17 (if not before) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 02:14 AM Flag
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The plan is to plan for everything and hope for the best. This is what every school is doing regardless about what they say. We are all planning for EITHER in-person, hybrid, or remote. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 06:02 AM Flag
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It’s because it can change on a dime. Last month nyc was the problem. Now it’s flipped. It could look great Aug 1 and by Labor Day be back to April. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 09:18 AM Flag
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We are at an Archdiacese school in NYC. Our principal shared that the DOE is providing “guidance” on the Fall week of July 13th. Not sure what that means exactly. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 11:56 AM Flag
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All NYS districts had to submit plans to State that will be reviewed and approved or not. Assume mid july is related to that? Couomo and NYS regents have been working on their own guidance too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:48 PM Flag
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Unfortunately don’t know any more than what I shared above. Sorry! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 03:02 PM Flag
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Ha ha ha. DOE and plan in the same sentence ... Sorry I couldn't help myself. IMO guidance will come down from Cuomo anyways and it will be late. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:40 PM Flag
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Have you heard of this unpredictable thing the country is dealing with these days? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 01:42 PM Flag
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Yes I have. And the DOE can't get their act together during normal times, now , not happening. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 09:30 PM Flag
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PP: Point is, they need a Plan A, B and C so they can roll out as appropriate. The reality is no one knows what conditions will be like in Sept. Could be terrible, could be great. - need a plan on site learning. And if schools open in September, cases could increase and shut down again. So need a plan to do remote only if/when that happens. My point is planning for multiple scenarios is needed. And planning for REAL online learning with appropriate standardized tools and models for all students is needed - there are many schools where there was zero interaction with the students, and I'm talking about SHS here too. DOE needs to prepare for best (in school + remote for those who opt for various reasons ) and worst (remote all year). Is that going to happen with our esteemed Chancellor and his enourmous team of highly paid administrators and that expensive consulting contract for Covid related support? Doubt it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 09:34 PM Flag
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Of course nobody knows exactly what the state of COVID will be. Why does NYC have such a worse time than anywhere else just coming out to say, if COVID is at X level, then we will hold school on these terms. If COVID levels are at Z, then school will look like this. Instead, we are all agape, watching for the Mayors crystal ball to make a decision. Why can’t they even release criteria for MAKING a decision? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 10:48 PM Flag
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This. And this makes me want to cry. https://nypost.com/2020/07/02/de-blasio-fall-school-opening-plan-is-premature-cuomo-teachers-union/ [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.20, 01:29 AM Flag
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This. And this makes me want to cry. https://nypost.com/2020/07/02/de-blasio-fall-school-opening-plan-is-premature-cuomo-teachers-union/ [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.03.20, 01:29 AM Flag
[ - ] What have the hill schools said regarding reopening plans? 10 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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NY Schools 07.01.20, 11:06 PM Flag
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Lots of talk about tenting fields, etc but still waiting for NYS guidelines. If they have to do a 50% reduction then all the space doesn't really help get more kids to school [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:45 PM Flag
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Which school is that? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:02 AM Flag
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Why 50% reduction? what's the target of number of children in a classroom? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:29 AM Flag
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I don't know where the OR is getting this. It will be based on room size, just like it has already been announced for colleges in NYS [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:45 AM Flag
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NP. I have seen this elsewhere too, although I can't remember where: in some states the guidelines have been announced as 50% reduction in population on each school day, so room size doesn't matter. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 02:16 AM Flag
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They are all saying the same thing -- they will open unless the Governor keeps all schools closed. They are planning for 3 possibilities -- all remote (extremely unlikely); a hybrid; all in person. They know there are some children whose health (or the health of someone they live with) won't allow them to return in person until there is a vaccine and they will make accommodations for those students. They all believe some sort of hybrid is the most likely. They will tent fields to get more square footage, they will use common spaces to get more square footage. The admins and many teachers are working over the summer to make whatever happens the best it possibly can be. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:44 AM Flag
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Why is some sort of hybrid more likely than in person for private school, if there is space to keep classroom "pods" small? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 01:43 AM Flag
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Personally I think they want to under-promise and over-perform. But that is just a guess. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 01:56 AM Flag
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Because some kids will need to stay home. Transportation is also a big deal. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 09:46 AM Flag
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np: It gets tougher in upper grades when kids pick more specialized courses. I know at my dc's hill school he is entering 10th and there aren't 10 kids in the grade with the same selections as he has. With so much switching of classes, they are saying it will be hard to have them back full time. But it sounds like possibly 4 days a week. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.05.20, 02:31 PM Flag
[ - ] We left our rental apartment in March and won’t be returning before the lease is up in September. It’s owned by a private family and we asked the landlord to put it on the market for rent again ASAP. He stalled for two months and finally the listing was posted in June. The broker keeps calling to ask us for concessions, first to pay his fee which we said no way to, now that we offer to pay the rent for a new tenant to move in. Aside from the fact that we’ve continued to pay the rent on an apartment we’re not using, where all the services we were paying for have been suspended, I think it’s absolutely obnoxious that the broker is bothering us with this stuff now. It’s making me so angry, WWYD? 133 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:15 PM Flag
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What am I missing? You're on the hook for rent until September, so you're asking him to do work he shouldn't have to do just to get you out of it? And you're mad that he wants concessions, even though it will be saving you money overall? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:28 PM Flag
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We’re not allowed to sublet it [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:29 PM Flag
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np. Why didn't you list it right away? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:33 PM Flag
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OP we don’t own it and we’re not allowed to sublet. The owner had to retain a broker. It’s only a one year lease so it’s the same broker, photos etc from last summer. The landlord chose not to list it sooner [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:36 PM Flag
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But you have a lease that says you pay for until September, I assume. Not until September unless you want to stop sooner. He's doing you a favor, not the other way around. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:34 PM Flag
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We’re leaving either way. So he can cut the rent substantially and get a new tenant or sit on a vacant apartment for months on end. There’s a lot of apartments in the building for rent, same or bigger at a lower rent, some offering no fee, two months free rent etc. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:37 PM Flag
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He doesn't have to worry about it until Sept 1. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:39 PM Flag
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Sure he can let it stay vacant indefinitely and eat the cost. Real smart... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:40 PM Flag
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That's not your concern. You're shitty that he isn't falling over himself to get you out of your lease early. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:42 PM Flag
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LOL. Like this is what you care about. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:43 PM Flag
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He'll eat it anyway Oct 1, but until then he is collecting the high rent you legally owe him. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:50 PM Flag
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This. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:12 PM Flag
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This. And if there's lots of apartments in the building for rent, ie. a high vacancy rate, he knows he's not going to fill the apartment quickly, so may as well get OP's rent for the lease term she committed to. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:42 PM Flag
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It would be smarter for the landlord to take a cut now and have the apartment rented for longer especially given the market is going to be over supplied for the next few years [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:56 PM Flag
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If taking a cut now will get the apartment rented, taking a cut in September will likely do the same. Why take the cut earlier than he has to? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:00 PM Flag
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Yes, I hear that you want concessions but they are trying to help you- if you pay a fee now, you get out of paying August and Sept. rent. You need to do the math and see if it makes sense to pay his fee and save 2 months' rent. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 01:22 AM Flag
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This doesn't make sense. He's getting full rent. He can always cut the rent later. It would be a nice favor to TRY to rent it for the same rent now, but if he can't get that amount, he has no reason to lose money. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:12 AM Flag
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But the OP wants him to! Can't you people see that? *stomps foot* [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:13 AM Flag
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He doesn't care if it's vacant because you are liable for the rent until September. Then he will care. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 01:21 AM Flag
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Why would he cut the rent when he has the right to collect full rent from you until September? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 11:24 AM Flag
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I think you want to get out of your lease early, right? If you don't mind paying until September, then I would just ignore the broker. If you are the one who wants to get out early, then you may have to make some concessions to get out of the lease. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:28 PM Flag
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Nobody is renting apartments in NYC either way. If the owner is serious about finding a tenant they need to cut the rent substantially, like 30+%. Our paying shouldn’t be expected or required. We’re giving the landlord access to the apartment and months of lead time to find a new tenant. We’re leaving either way [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:31 PM Flag
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NP: Your paying through September is legally expected and required per the terms of your lease. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:33 PM Flag
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Not really as our income has fallen dramatically, we can’t be evicted if we stop paying rent now or in September [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:35 PM Flag
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Wow, you are a piece of work. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:37 PM Flag
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Why did you get a second place if you can't afford rent on the first one? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:37 PM Flag
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This! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:37 PM Flag
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This! Your income can't have fallen that dramatically if you're paying rent elsewhere. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:38 PM Flag
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We’re not paying rent elsewhere. Bad assumption. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:41 PM Flag
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You moved. You're adults. It's a fair assumption that you're paying housing costs elsewhere. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:44 PM Flag
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NP: OP probably moved in with their parents and not paying rent anymore [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:56 PM Flag
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But only as a favor to her parents. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:13 AM Flag
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Of course. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:19 AM Flag
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LOL. So this. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:39 AM Flag
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You can't be evicted, but you can certainly be held to the rent. Rent is not being forgiven. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:46 PM Flag
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It doesn’t matter if we’ve no income and the apartment is newly rented. Their claim won’t be worth pursuing [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:55 PM Flag
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That's a decision for them. I wouldn't be so cocky about it if I were you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:59 PM Flag
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It won't be newly rented unless you make concessions. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 08:04 PM Flag
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BUT YOU WILL STILL OWE THE MONEY. Landlord can sue if he wants. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 08:03 PM Flag
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"Our paying shouldn’t be expected or required." Wait, what? You said lease is up in September, so of course you need to pay until then. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:36 PM Flag
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I was referring to the broker fee or concessions they’re asking us to absorb. Neither of which would be enough tk make this listing competitive with the others in the building. But also this is not our problem. It’s the landlord and broker who need to figure it out and stop badgering us [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:42 PM Flag
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I agree that you aren't on the hook for the broker fee. As long as you keep paying rent until September, that's all they can ask of you. But if they ask you to pay the fee or concessions after the fact as a condition of letting you out of some of the money you owe until September, that would be lawful of them to do as they are only mitigating at this point, trying to help you not be on the hook for the entire rent until then. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:45 PM Flag
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yep. all of this [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:50 PM Flag
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You're what's wrong about this country [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:55 AM Flag
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But he can get full price until September, which you legally owe him. That seems to be what he has chosen. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 01:24 AM Flag
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What stuff is he bothering you with? You waited for your landlord to contract a broker, instead of finding one you like yourself. And the reality is no one wants to rent without some concessions. Pending the new law, many listings are no-fee so it makes sense he wants you to pay it. Sorry you are in this position, but I don't see how it is the broker's fault. If anything, he is doing his job communicating to you what the market is. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:29 PM Flag
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The broker is working for the landlord not for us. We’re not allowed to sublet to the owner had to retain the broker. We’ve given them full access to the apartment to do this and we’ve continued to pay the rent even though all of the services have been suspended [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:32 PM Flag
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I think the broker should be honest with the owner, who lives overseas, that they need to cut the rent substantially. We pay as well keep the access and use of the apartment versus discounting to try to help them. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:34 PM Flag
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What "services" do you mean? The primary purpose of rent is to allow you to live in the apartment. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:34 PM Flag
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Gym, full time doorman, kids playroom all removed [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:38 PM Flag
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Ok, but you still have access to the apartment and the right to live in it (you're just choosing not to). Maybe you could ask for a rent reduction on basis of services, but it doesn't mean that you continuing to pay rent is some sort of magnanimous gesture. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:40 PM Flag
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We asked and the owner declined. We’re still paying the rent but we’re not interested in being badgered by the broker with stupid ideas that ultimately don’t move the needle. The condo owner is offering no fee and 2-3 months free rent. That’s what the owner is competing with [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:44 PM Flag
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He isn't competing with anyone for your rent. You signed a lease, you're on the hook until September; makes sense while things are so volatile that he would let it ride. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:45 PM Flag
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So stupid to state the obvious but miss the whole point [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:48 PM Flag
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Or maybe your point isn't as compelling as you think it is... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:49 PM Flag
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Could you not list it as a lease takeover with your own broker? Have you looked at your lease contract? We are also on the hook for rent, but we could find someone to take over if we wanted to. I asked before we even signed anything. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:35 PM Flag
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Thanks. Yes we had an attorney review the lease and no we couldn’t retain a broker directly. The building has to pre approve the brokers and they have to be retained by the owner. Minimum 12 month lease so no sublet [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:40 PM Flag
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Oh well. In future, review the lease before you sign! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:41 PM Flag
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So helpful.. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:44 PM Flag
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Well, it is helpful advice for the next time you sign a legal document, so that you don't have to come to a public forum bitching that you are being held to the terms of the legal document you signed. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:45 PM Flag
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You’re so bright you missed the whole point. Maybe go back to elementary school [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:52 PM Flag
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No, that's not it. Your point is just very self-serving and you're upset that nobody agrees with you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:53 PM Flag
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Agree, this OP's logic is completely self-serving with a very smug tone. She refuses to acknowledge the agreement she signed thru September and wants to blame others for the fact that she wants to back out of that agreement. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 04:02 AM Flag
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It's a tough situation, but you signed a lease and they are not required to let you out of it early. They probably know they will have to lower it eventually, but why not take the money you are supposed to pay. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:37 PM Flag
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Because September is in 60 days and they’re going to be eating the cost for even longer then [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:49 PM Flag
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No one knows what September will bring. Schools may reopen. There may be a vaccine. Or not. If I were him I would not be doing anything now when many people are letting leases lapse and go away for the summer waiting to see the school situation. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:56 PM Flag
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There will be no vaccine before late 2021 and even if schools reopen which is highly unlikely they’ll close again quickly so anyone who can afford it will stay outside the city [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:59 PM Flag
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But in that case him lowering the rent now wouldn't change anything anyway. You are not making sense. If lowering the rent now would get a tenant, it is illogical to insist that lowering the rent in September wouldn't get a tenant. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:02 PM Flag
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There’s only one way to find out and that’s by offering the apartment at a market rent [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:14 PM Flag
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But he doesn't want to find out if he could rent the apartment at lower rent now, because he has a tenant in place paying full rent. Why is this so hard for you to understand? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:16 PM Flag
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Yup, bird in the hand. No one can blame the landlord for that [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:01 AM Flag
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np. The market is in turmoil now. By September there will be some more visible direction. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:01 AM Flag
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He didn't stall for two months. The market was totally frozen. People lost their jobs. Stop being obnoxious when youre just mad about paying rent on an empty apartment. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:35 PM Flag
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It’s the same listing a year ago and many other apartments were listed over the two months he was stalling [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:38 PM Flag
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They might have been listed but nobody was renting them. There was a lockdown. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:39 PM Flag
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A lease is a contract. If you want to bring a suit seeking a declaration that the lease is void because you are not able to use the services, you can do that, but otherwise you are stuck, nothing about the pandemic has voided rental leases. Your desire not to pay is irrelevant to your legal obligations. And the suspension of eviction proceedings just means the LL can't throw you out, it doesn't have any effect at all on your liability for rent payments. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:38 PM Flag
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We haven’t stopped paying and I wasn’t complaining about paying the rent. I’m irritated that the broker is an idiot who keeps calling me when I’m not interested or going to be part of the solution. There are bigger apartments for no fee and less rent in the same building [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:45 PM Flag
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So stop taking his calls and tell him you're happy to pay full rent until September. I don't understand why you're making such a simple situation so complex. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:47 PM Flag
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This! Your landlord is happy to take your money and not have to lower now. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:48 PM Flag
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And then sit on an empty apartment for months on end [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:54 PM Flag
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Do you honestly not see how illogical this is? If the apartment would be empty for "months on end" from September if he reduces the rent then, why are you so rattled that he won't lower the rent now? It's not going to make a difference. in that case. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:57 PM Flag
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Because he can give himself more time. He refused to list it for the first two months, now it’s listed at a massive premium to everything else and yet the only solution the broker can come up with is for us to pay the concessions. Even if we contributed the next two months rent it wouldn’t make a difference. I told the broker to call his client and figure it out, and to stop wasting my time. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:01 PM Flag
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And that's fine, as long as you're happy paying full rent until September. But you seem to be angry that the landlord is not acting in a way that serves your interests. Why would he do that? He's listed it at a premium because he has no imperative to reduce rent right now: he's got a tenant paying rent until September. If he needs to lower it then, he will. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:04 PM Flag
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If he lowers it in September then he’s one of many in the building at the same rent. He’s going to be sitting on a vacant apartment [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:10 PM Flag
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If he lowers it now, he's one of many in the building at the same rent, according to you. What's the difference? Might as well get the full rent he's legally entitled to. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:11 PM Flag
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He’s getting that either way but should be motivated to get a long term tenant ASAP [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:14 PM Flag
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No, he'd rather keep a tenant at full rent until 1 September and then a long-term tenant at lower rent after that. He doesn't have to be motivated by replacing you early, just because you think he should. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:17 PM Flag
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So what? That’s his choice. Why do you care and why are you so angry about it? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:04 AM Flag
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He will lower it then. It will be clear how much the market requires. Now everything is up in the air with many renters not actively looking. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:58 PM Flag
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And when schools don’t reopen it will be worse in September. Lucky OP has a lease she’s out of then [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:09 PM Flag
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Lol. You are OP. Stop talking about yourself in third person. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:11 PM Flag
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this part is not your concern, is it? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:58 PM Flag
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He is probably under the assumption that you are interested in getting out of your lease before September and willing to spend some money now to save it in the long run. Just assure him that you aren't so he can go back to doing nothing for you and leave you alone. But the idea that the brokers or the owners should take a loss now to save you money is ridiculous. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:48 PM Flag
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Even if they have to do it eventually, it is to their benefit to put that off and get full rent from you while they can. Especially if the building is already flooded at the moment as you say. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:49 PM Flag
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This! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:52 PM Flag
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The over supply is going to get better not worse. Also the broker doesn’t work for us, and yes we’ve asked him to stop badgering us but he keeps calling [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:53 PM Flag
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can you just block the broker's number? Easy to do [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:59 PM Flag
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This! Maybe the landlord will have to reduce rent in September to fill the place, but why should he do it now? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:49 PM Flag
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Because the landlord would lock in a longer term tenant and not be sitting on a vacant apartment for months on end [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:52 PM Flag
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If lowering rent now would "lock in a longer-term tenant", why do you assume that lowering rent in September won't do the same? And in the mean time, he's got two more months of the full rent you're obligated to pay. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:55 PM Flag
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Because it’s highly unlikely that he’ll find a tenant that wants to move before September 1, either way the rent is going to fall dramatically or the apartment is going to sit vacant [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:03 PM Flag
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You are just speculating. And ultimately, what happens to the apartment after September 1 is not your concern. You are mad that he isn't trying to get a tenant in place for July/August at a lower rent to save you money at his own expense. But he has no reason to do that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:09 PM Flag
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What makes you think he'd be able to get a longer term tenant faster now rather than in September? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:55 PM Flag
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This! It doesn't make sense! If anything market will be better in September as more things reopen and families return to city. (Touch wood). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:58 PM Flag
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At the very least market will be more stable/certain. Makes sense to wait. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:01 PM Flag
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The schools won’t be reopening and the landlord will have to step the rent down or sit on a vacant apartment [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:08 PM Flag
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Maybe, maybe not, but it's reasonable to wait and see rather than take a loss now to benefit someone who sounds like a PITA tenant based on your interactions here. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:10 PM Flag
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THIS. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 06:02 AM Flag
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exactly this [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:00 AM Flag
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Only one way to find out dummy [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:02 PM Flag
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Well no, you'll never find out because you can't do both... If he lowers rent now and it is leased to a new tenant, then he'll never know how fast it would have rented in September, and he will have lost out on the two months full rent from July-August from you. You really just seem mad that he isn't scared and making panicked decisions that benefit you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:05 PM Flag
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That’s the landlords problem to figure out [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:08 PM Flag
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Exactly! It is all the landlord's problem to figure out, so why are you so furious that he is handling it in a way that is not in your interest? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:10 PM Flag
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My post was to express my irritation with the dumb realtor who keeps calling us with stupid ideas [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:15 PM Flag
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Block the realtor's number. That part is easy. But your many replies make it clear you are also very angry that the landlord isn't falling over himself to make your life easier. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:14 AM Flag
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Not until your lease ends [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:14 PM Flag
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Ha. This. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:14 PM Flag
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I'm done. You're either a troll or you're just too stupid or entitled to reason with. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:57 PM Flag
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These options are not mutually exclusive, of course. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:00 PM Flag
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Possibly all of the above. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:00 PM Flag
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This OP makes my head hurt. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:17 PM Flag
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I think OP is the latter... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:00 AM Flag
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I can’t possibly read all these comments, but I think I remember from law school that there is a duty on the part of the landlord to mitigate damages? So sitting on the apt for two months is a problem. Still you would owe him your lease rent minus the now market rent - his transaction costs. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:22 PM Flag
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Not quite, OP would need to prove that the landlord could have mitigated his losses if he listed earlier and at market. Given the circumstances (pandemic/lockdown) and the fact that there are multiple vacant apartments in the building, this would be tough. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:33 PM Flag
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I think they were not supposed to show them for some time. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:08 AM Flag
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If your lease is till sept you pay till sept. He may decide to start showing in August. This spring everything was locked down and why she he show before August anyway ? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:40 PM Flag
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Why do I feel like OP is going to spend the months after September feverishly refreshing the listing on the apartment, watching to see the landlord get his comeuppance? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:55 PM Flag
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“That’s what he gets for making me abide by the legally binding contact I willingly entered into!” [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:07 AM Flag
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LOL. So this! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:41 AM Flag
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He didn’t “sit on it”- it was illegal to have a broker in to take pictures or do showings until Phase 2. Even if, by your assertion, they could have used the same pictures, they couldn’t do showings and move someone in. Your lease goes until September, so the landlord is trying to help you out- if you had paid for July, which you were going to have to do anyway, he can offer than concession to the new tenant and get you off the hook August. I get that it’s annoying that the broker keeps talking to you, but you have no right to be mad that you couldn’t break your lease early. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:00 AM Flag
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I haven’t broken the lease and my frustration is with the broker [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:08 AM Flag
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But the solution to the broker problem is very simple. Tell him you are not interested in making concessions now, and are not available for further discussions, then stop taking his calls. You are all over this post frothing at the mouth with frustration that the landlord is not behaving in the way you feel he should be--being motivated to get a lower-rent tenant in place ASAP--even though that benefits you more than him. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:12 AM Flag
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Brokers were not allowed to show in person until last week [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 02:54 PM Flag
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:14 PM Flag
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I like Smart Hair studio in WT, good haircuts and quite reasonable but cash or check only. If you can splurge, Sara June is good but pricey. [ Reply | More
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Union Beauty [ Reply | More
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I love Little Lion Salon on 4th Ave and 3rd St. I usually see Sarah. They just opened back up, and I'm so excited for my next cut. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:36 AM Flag
[ - ] DC is having minor surgery tomorrow. I’m not especially nervous about the procedure but don’t love the idea of general anesthesia and the covid risk of being in a hospital. Has anyone had outpatient surgery in nyc recently? 8 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:05 PM Flag
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Not surgery, but I take dh to a cancer clinic every 2 weeks. Hospitals are on top of this and working hard to prevent spread. They screen everyone, require masks and limit access. Dc will be fine. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:10 PM Flag
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Thanks. I’m sorry you’re dealing with a cancer battle on top of everything!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:11 PM Flag
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I am having a colonoscopy tomorrow (but not in NYC). They are going to test me for COVID before the procedure, as they do with every single patient who comes in. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:27 PM Flag
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Yes, dx was tested yesterday (negative) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:29 PM Flag
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My dh did - but it was at a surgery center not a hospital. It was empty and their procedures made me feel safe. But I couldn't stay there and it felt weird running errands while waiting for the doctor to cal. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:30 PM Flag
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Dc is 5 so I get to wait there. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:33 PM Flag
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dh was in the hospital recently at Weill Cornell for 3 days for IV antibiotics. They tested him for Covid before transferring from ER to regular floor. I was also worried about Covid as he was there for 3 days, refused to wear a mask and take any precautions, in a shared room. Its been 3 weeks since his admission, and we are fine. But it was a hell of 2 weeks post admission worrying about transmission to myself and DC as we were together in an apartment. They should test for Covid at point of discharge as well. I nearly lost my sanity.Good luck. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:49 PM Flag
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Yes, DH did general anesthesia surgery (but went home day of surgery) at the beginning of June. Everything went fine. I dropped him off at the door, and the nurse brought him back to our car on the sidewalk, so I never went in. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 01:03 AM Flag
[ - ] You go to your local pizza shop and order a slice of pizza. The clerk grabs the slice with his hand and puts in the brick oven. What would you do? I don’t want the slice. 24 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:31 PM Flag
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I would eat the slice. This wouldn't bother me. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:34 PM Flag
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Op: really? I’m grossed out and wish I would’ve said forget it. Now I’m stuck with a pizza that I don’t want but paid for. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:36 PM Flag
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Cooking would kill any germs, if he'd stuck a finger in the pizza after it came out that might be different. But generally when I get take out I assume my food has been touched and handled. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:39 PM Flag
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It’s going in oven. It will be ok. When it comes out he should not hold. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:36 PM Flag
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+1 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 01:26 AM Flag
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Oven will kill germs. It's fine. I assume when it comes out he will be holding it with an implement. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:39 PM Flag
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Pizza ovens are like 600 degrees. It's completely fine. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:41 PM Flag
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This! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:29 PM Flag
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Nope, more like 800 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:42 PM Flag
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The pizza will be sterilized. Honestly! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:48 PM Flag
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what germ exactly is going to survive a 500 degree oven? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:55 PM Flag
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do you think they made the pizza without their hands? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:58 PM Flag
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before it was cooked , yes [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:01 PM Flag
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dear lord [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:58 PM Flag
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does his hand have a glove on? if not, i would not eat it. thats would be shocking to me n these times. they use those spatula things with gloves nowadays or at least a spatula. gross. i disagree with the ladies, i would dump just because its negligent [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:59 PM Flag
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Op: no glove.....I wouldn’t have had a problem if glove. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:35 PM Flag
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Do you really think that there can't be germs on gloves? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:36 PM Flag
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Op: thanks all [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:07 PM Flag
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If it’s gone into the brick oven, I’d say it’s safe. Probably I’d eat it straight from the case. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:10 PM Flag
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This reminds me of the question - does rice grow on trees? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:13 PM Flag
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It wouldn't bother me but if it did I'd ask for a different slice. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:48 PM Flag
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Any food prepared at a restaurant has been touched. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:56 PM Flag
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+1 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:37 PM Flag
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At 800 degrees it kills everything! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:41 PM Flag
[ - ] Wow, my gym just collapsed. Totally a pile of rubble. How does that even happen? It was a bit rickedy but still 11 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:23 PM Flag
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Did your DH cannon ball on your gym ? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:37 PM Flag
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FTW [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:40 PM Flag
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:13 PM Flag
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i honestly thought op was trolling that post [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:56 PM Flag
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Just saw that on Citizen. Used to go there. So scary. Are they OK in the market next door? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:47 PM Flag
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Court Street? I saw the pictures. So insane. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:52 PM Flag
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We walked by moments before it happened. So scary!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:54 PM Flag
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Holy cow, I just googled the photos!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:59 PM Flag
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Watching on the news. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:01 PM Flag
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I hope you got your refund already. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:52 PM Flag
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General Topics 07.01.20, 11:10 PM Flag
[ - ] Want to hire baby sitter on the books. How to proceed ? Do I need an accountant ? 18 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 08:54 PM Flag
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I pay one on the books and I report her earnings quarterly to the accountant. We had an accountant anyway so I am not sure what the other options are. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:01 PM Flag
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Do you generate pay stub or just give her check and report that to accountant ? Do you have any written agreement ? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:06 PM Flag
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I just pay in cash and report that to the accountant. No written agreement but sitter and I have been together for 15 years. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:09 PM Flag
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That's actually illegal. You should be paying payroll and other taxes. Maybe your accountant does all that for you? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:11 PM Flag
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Yes they do. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:12 PM Flag
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NP: I doubt. I think accountant is subtracting child care from your taxes. No, it’s not called paying by books. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:14 PM Flag
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Really? They send her a K-1 or whatever that is called and she qualified for unemployment during this time based on her work for us. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:19 PM Flag
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Oh, then it’s my bad. I shouldn’t assume things. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:21 PM Flag
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a baby sitter or nanny should NOT be getting a k-1. She should be getting a W2. She is NOT being paid correctly. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:24 PM Flag
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W2 is what I meant. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:25 PM Flag
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OP: how much are taxes ? Trying to figure out how much can I afford ? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:15 PM Flag
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Is the babysitter going to pay also? When a lot of sitters say they want $20 and on the books, they don't realize that $20 is going to be net like $18 after the taxes THEY are supposed to pay. If you are going to pay all the taxes for both of you, it adds like 25%. If she pays her part, like 10-15% extra. Those numbers may be off but not a ton. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:41 PM Flag
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Thanks [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:49 PM Flag
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It's a real PITA. I recommend using a service. The cheapest one I could find that is good enough is Sure Payroll. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:06 PM Flag
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Yes we use a service and it’s fine [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:17 PM Flag
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there are online services for this, I don't recall the name but I had to onboard my boss' sitter a few years ago. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:54 PM Flag
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Our accountant deals with this, NBD, I sign a form and write a check once a quarter or something, basically whatever the accountant tells me to do. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:42 PM Flag
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Make sure you are clear with the sitter before hand. I had one nanny that wanted her net take home to be the same as what her off the book rate would have been. It was way more $$$ and a PITA. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 01:05 AM Flag
[ - ] Why would an adult woman living in the 21st century wear this, let alone spend $100 on it?! 47 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 08:53 PM Flag
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https://www.hillhousehome.com/products/the-caroline-nap-dress?variant=31870610407467#Image14227992444971 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 08:54 PM Flag
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I think it's okay for a "nap dress") [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:25 PM Flag
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Ate too much during quarantine? Or just comfortable around the house. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 10:13 PM Flag
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Then I'll wear my sweats or tees: why pay $100 for something so gross? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:18 PM Flag
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LOL [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 01:23 AM Flag
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looks like a cute night gown, can't imagine wearing it out in public... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 06:18 PM Flag
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I don't know. It looks far too fussy for me. But I would love something called a nap dress. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:00 PM Flag
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I think it's cute if you're just spending time at home or in a garden (if lucky enough to have one!) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:25 PM Flag
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Why would you wear a nightgown in your garden? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 02:02 PM Flag
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Isn't the point of a nap that it's something impromptu while you're watching TV or in a hammock? Does anyone over 2 "dress" for a nap and get into bed for one? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:42 PM Flag
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Followed link fully assuming I would dislike it and now want to order! I like it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:03 PM Flag
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+1 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:06 PM Flag
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Honest question, no snark, what do you like about it? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.02.20, 12:49 PM Flag
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Just random but I love the "WTH is this?" fashion posts on weird, overpriced clothes, especially now as an escape. So, TY. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:06 PM Flag
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It’s spam. This site has been posted a few times already. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.20, 09:56 PM Flag
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