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[ - ] anyone go to Dr. Alison Gruen, derm on UES 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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New York City 03.13.08, 09:35 AM Flag
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no but she is a friend of mine [ Reply | More
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General Topics 03.13.08, 09:35 AM Flag
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yes, i love her!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 03.13.08, 09:53 AM Flag
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wait, i thought she was on 35th street? did she move? havent been since pg [ Reply | More
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General Topics 03.13.08, 09:54 AM Flag
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I lover Dr. Gruen. And she made my teenaged son with acne feel comfortable, too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.16.13, 09:04 PM Flag
[ - ] Regarding 'irish' names, the top 10 baby names in 2005 in IRELAND include, jack, emma, adam, luke, ella, sophie and chloe. 19 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 02.26.08, 07:11 PM Flag
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I know, Irish mom is clearly trying too hard. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.26.08, 07:11 PM Flag
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lol. i am that op. Have you read the top 100 in ireland for 2005? They also include all of my dcs names (and in the top 10 their are the 6 names posted above too!) you don't know what you are talking about, and honestly, does it matter? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.26.08, 07:15 PM Flag
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NP: I love how every answer you give is "you don't know what your'e talkign about and I do". iT's not that convincing [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.26.08, 07:16 PM Flag
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okay. do we comment on Jewish people using hebrew or israeli names? Do we comment on black people using "AA" names? Do we comment on Spanish people who were born in the US who use spanish names? lol. you just don't like Irish people, it clearly bothers you that an irish person uses an irish name for dcs! So i should name my dcs Michale, John, and William like every other American? please. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.26.08, 07:18 PM Flag
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I am Irish, and you are really annoying (np) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.26.08, 07:19 PM Flag
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great. so don't talk to me. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.26.08, 07:19 PM Flag
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Someone I know has a son named Finbar--what the hell is that? THAT'S trying too hard. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.26.08, 07:17 PM Flag
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op- i don't consider names as trying too hard. sorry. a name is a name. as long a sit is a real name, who cares? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.26.08, 07:19 PM Flag
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An Irish saint. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 08.11.13, 05:44 PM Flag
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I don't get what's so strange about an Irish mom picking traditional Irish names. I have an Irish friend (married an Irish-American), and their kids are Seamus, Eilis, and Rory. Goes nicely with their Irish last name, IMO [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.26.08, 07:19 PM Flag
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or- they just don't like that the names happen to be popular. They think every irish name used is only from someone "trying too har" it is ridiculous. when other people of other backgrounds (people born in US) use names from their background, no one sa anything. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.26.08, 07:21 PM Flag
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OMG--do we live in Ireland? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.26.08, 07:11 PM Flag
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but how else do you flaunt your "real" Irishness in the US than naming yoru kids VERY IRISH NAMES SO EVERYONE KNOWS YOU"RE FROM IRELAND. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.26.08, 07:12 PM Flag
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LOL [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.26.08, 07:12 PM Flag
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ITA--WTF? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.26.08, 07:15 PM Flag
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Even Michael Flatley, who is from the US, uses an Irish brogue when he interviews. What's up with that? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.26.08, 07:16 PM Flag
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okay, and they also include Cian, Conor, Sean, Aoife, Ciara, and Niahm. whats your point? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.26.08, 07:13 PM Flag
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how boring [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.26.08, 07:15 PM Flag
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who cares. seriously. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.26.08, 07:16 PM Flag
[ - ] Anyone use an egg donor? I am considering this option as it appears my eggs are over. so sad. 20 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 02.19.08, 04:30 PM Flag
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no, but we used a sperm donor [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 04:31 PM Flag
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us too [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 04:33 PM Flag
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I am so sorry. dont have any advice. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 04:31 PM Flag
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no [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 04:31 PM Flag
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how old are you? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 04:31 PM Flag
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twice. happy to answer questions. Will watch post. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 04:31 PM Flag
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hi! op... thank you for responding. please tell me what the pros and cons are... were there any surprises after you gave birth? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 04:32 PM Flag
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pros - your odds are much higher for success, controlling prenatal care (vs. adoption), being pg.. cons - waiting for a match if it is anonymous, fear of the unknown, feeling like you are having an alien baby (partly kidding about this one), But really, once you have "the call" that you are pg, it all fades away. The greatest joy of my life are my 2 boys. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 04:35 PM Flag
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oh my god.. thank you so much for responding... my biggest fear is the unknown and that the baby is a science experiment.. thank you for saying it.... I am so scared and undecided and don't know where to turn.. but I do not want my son to be an only! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 04:38 PM Flag
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Believe me - it is OKAY and normal to be afraid/unsure. The clinic will counsel you before you go forward. After 4 tries on my own (old eggs) DE was my only option and I have never for one minute regretted it. GL. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 04:40 PM Flag
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do you know of a support group? op [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 05:12 PM Flag
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www.PVED.org and http://www.network54.com/Forum/57451 are the best support groups online. Best of luck. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.17.13, 06:42 PM Flag
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my friend used one [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 04:32 PM Flag
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brother and sil did [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 04:32 PM Flag
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well.... how did it work out? did the Mom bond with the donor egg child? Any drawbacks you know about? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 04:34 PM Flag
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worships the child, had NO prob. bonding.Bro./sil have absolutely no regrets, they only wish they could do one more (don't have the $$ for it). Chose egg by the donor whose phys. qualities matched sil's, fwiw. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 04:37 PM Flag
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Friend considered it, then decided to adopt instead. But I think her decision had a lot to do with the fact she is a single mother too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 04:33 PM Flag
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My cousin is a big dog ob and he says that if you get young eggs, you usually do okay. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 04:33 PM Flag
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NP I used donor egg, and have 3 beautiful children. The only drawback is that everyone resembles my dh and his family, and every now and again I get a twinge that no one resembles me. The freeing thing is that everything I don't like about my own family and myself has not been passed on.I would do it again in a heartbeat. No regrets. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.24.15, 02:04 PM Flag
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We did a successful egg cycle in South Africa, after 5 unsuccessful own egg cycles in the U.S. Lots of women also go to the Czech Republic and Greece fior donor egg cycles. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 04.03.19, 01:18 AM Flag
[ - ] does anyone know if 7th day adventists are really out there with their beliefs? my sister is dating one, she's catholic, and it is starting to seem like they're pretty close-minded. anyone have any experience with the religion? 7 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 02.19.08, 11:13 AM Flag
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kinda subjective. do you find catholics open-minded? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 11:13 AM Flag
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op: no, not really. but, a lot of catholics don't follow the rules strictly. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 11:14 AM Flag
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so just hypocritical? I guess you don't really need to know what anyone's experience is. find out about this one guy [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 11:15 AM Flag
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I find SDA and Catholics fairlly extreme [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 11:14 AM Flag
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Is that the same as Christian Scientists? Because DH's friend is CS and they do not allow any kind of medicine or medical treatment. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 11:15 AM Flag
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i know that one of the tenents of the religion is healthy eating (maybe vegetarianism), healthy lifestyle. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 11:15 AM Flag
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A little subjective there my friend... I am Seventh day Adventist and I consider myself to very open minded. The only close minded people you will find in a sda community will be the old people. Life is about balance!!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.13, 04:55 AM Flag
[ - ] Im jewish - I don't know anybody who went to boarding school. fwiw I went ivy too but dont' remember where everyone went to highschool 24 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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New York City 02.19.08, 11:05 AM Flag
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excuse my ignorance, but what does being jewish have to do with it? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 11:05 AM Flag
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NP: I see the point. Jews don't do boarding school. We do, however, do sleepaway camp. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 11:06 AM Flag
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that's what I wanted to know. Just not a jewish thing - right? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 11:07 AM Flag
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Exactly. We need to keep our kids close to inculcate the guilt. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 11:08 AM Flag
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nnp: i'm jewish and i "did" boarding school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 11:08 AM Flag
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Plenty of Jews "do" boarding school. How ridiculous. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 11:13 AM Flag
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NP. I don't get it either. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 11:06 AM Flag
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^^^I was going to post that I knew lots of Jewish kids who went to boarding school, but then I tried to count them. None that I can think of, actually. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 11:07 AM Flag
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I have one Jewish friend who went to boarding school for 2 yrs -- but his parents are the kind of Jews who were embarrassed when he grew up and his wife wanted to have a seder. Too Jewish for them. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 11:09 AM Flag
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okay, just because people you knew were like this doesn't mean there weren't plenty of others. The jewish students at my school held sedars on campus. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 11:16 AM Flag
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you see - i can't think of any either. Not our tradition [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 11:10 AM Flag
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np: Maybe op suggests boarding school is more of a wasp tradition that Jewish families don't tend to follow? May well be the case. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 11:07 AM Flag
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there were plenty of jewish kids at my TT boarding school. it may not have been as much of a tradition as the WASPs but top notch education certainly is [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 11:09 AM Flag
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you can get top notch educations form tt non boarding or good public schools too [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 11:10 AM Flag
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of course, i just meant that when it comes to the top boarding schools i think jewish people are aware of them due to the top education rather than as a "tradition" [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 11:14 AM Flag
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if you've ever really investigated the TT boarding schools, they are really without peers in the private day and public categories. it may not be for everyone, but they are really unique. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 11:15 AM Flag
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I wouldn't say that there were "plenty" of jewish kids at my TT boarding school, but there were a decent number of them. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 11:28 AM Flag
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define plenty. i mean in nyc, probably half the population is jewish (at least 1 parent), but nationally, it's a small percentage. i think that at boarding school the numbers are more nationally representative [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 11:31 AM Flag
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I would say that, out of a student body of approximately 1000 (grades 9-12), the number of Jewish students was in the dozens. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 11:37 AM Flag
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I don't understand the point? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 11:06 AM Flag
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I know Jewish people who went to boarding school but it is not the norm. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 11:08 AM Flag
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I didn't even know about boarding school when I was in hs [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.19.08, 11:09 AM Flag
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A lot of Jewish kids do go to boarding school. One in particular is the American Hebrew Academy, an international college prep boarding school with high school students from across the U.S. and the world. 30% of the students come from 18 different countries. The school has strong academics, sports, arts and an amazing 100 acre campus. Visit their website at www.americanhebrewacademy.org. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 04.29.14, 11:20 AM Flag
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Jewish kids who attended SS schools are more likely to go. I know many. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 04.29.14, 12:45 PM Flag
[ - ] I am an openminded arab, really I am. But I get really upset when people refer to traditional arabic things (esp food) as israeli. I realize there are bigger problems in this world, but it really bothers me. I see it as a cultural hijack of sorts. 50 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 02.17.08, 08:20 AM Flag
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it seems inevitable that culture spreads and gets appropriated, though, doesn't it? especially yummy things [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:22 AM Flag
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^I'm not denying the sad ignorance we have about Arabic culture, though. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:23 AM Flag
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sure--but that is another matter [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:23 AM Flag
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sadly, from a marketing standpoint in the US, it's probably better to say "israeli" than "arab" [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:24 AM Flag
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not anymore it isn't [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:25 AM Flag
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We're at the point where it's simply better to say Middle Eastern. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:27 AM Flag
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of course. when i refer to myself as "middle eastern" on this board, I get helpful responses. But when I call myself an arab, I usually receive a litany of insults in response [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:25 AM Flag
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it's so ridiculous [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:26 AM Flag
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really? I am Israeli, and associate middle eastern with arab (and it's not at all a negative connotation for me) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:28 AM Flag
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that is because you are informed being from the region, etc [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:31 AM Flag
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You do realize that a lot of Arabic food is simply the food eaten in the middle east and that many israelis came from middle eastern countries, such as syria, lebanon, iraq, and their food is the same as yours? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:25 AM Flag
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she realizes it. dont be so patronizing. you are missing her point [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:27 AM Flag
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most isrealisare not from arab countries though [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:27 AM Flag
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wrong. about half are and the proportion was much greater until about 10 years ago [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:29 AM Flag
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that is not true -- it's about half and half. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:29 AM Flag
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really? i thought most are ashkenazi [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:29 AM Flag
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no. the balance has shifted since the influx of all those russians but Israel until recently was a majority sephardic [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:31 AM Flag
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op-didn't know that [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:34 AM Flag
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np: no. most american jews are ashkenazi, but in israel it's different. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:32 AM Flag
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op: well I guess I am a dumb arab! Really, I thought it was overwhelmingly ash [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:33 AM Flag
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or: it's because the middle eastern / african jews are less likely to move to US than the ashkenazi ones (plus many many many ashkenazi jews in US who are not Israeli) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:34 AM Flag
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makes sense [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:36 AM Flag
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That's right. Most of the Jews in the US came directly from Europe, w/out going through Israel. It was easier, however, for Sephardic/Middle Eastern Jews to immigrate directly to Israel. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:37 AM Flag
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or: exactly. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:34 AM Flag
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I'd say it's a 50-50 (ashkenazi vs sephardic/middle eastern), but ashkenazi food is mostly eaten at home, while middle eastern/arabic food is considered "israeli" food, such as falafel and hummus. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:31 AM Flag
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You know what's funny? I have an Israeli DH and I just got flamed for saying that Zatar is arabic and it's best to find it in arabic markets! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:25 AM Flag
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oh well, at least you understand! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:26 AM Flag
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I do understand. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:26 AM Flag
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Re: I do understand. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:27 AM Flag
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^^^oops! good :) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:27 AM Flag
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;) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:28 AM Flag
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Yeah well, lots of people insist that Greek foods are Turkish. Marhaban! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:26 AM Flag
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like turkish coffee / greek coffee ? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:30 AM Flag
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Yes, and baklava as well as a bunch of other things. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:31 AM Flag
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NP: Is baklava originally from Turkey? I didn't know that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:33 AM Flag
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No it is not, but it is often claimed that it is. Many middle-eastern foods were Persian and spread around with the Turks (who started out in Persia). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:38 AM Flag
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^^^^Baklava and similar sweets probably predate the Turks and go back to ancient Asia Minor cooking. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:39 AM Flag
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Actually it was invented in Ottoman kitchens and wikipedia certainly has a long piece dedicating its invention to the Turks/Turkic peoples. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 12.10.13, 02:18 AM Flag
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do you live in NY? i think it may be a new york thing because of all the jews who associate middle eastern cuisine (for example) as Israeli becauss thats what they know. I suspect that in other parts of the country (or world) this stuff is seen as middle eastern [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:26 AM Flag
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no--i am not in ny [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:38 AM Flag
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Where do you live? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:43 AM Flag
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Israeli here. I see what you mean, but since Israel is young, everything "Israeli" is either from neighboring middle eastern countries, or from jews in other contries (polish, moroccan, whatever) who came to Israel. like falafel etc [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:26 AM Flag
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np: you wouldn't argue that zatar, for example, is "israeli" would you? Such a silly thing to argue about. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:28 AM Flag
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I wouldn't argue. But what is Israeli? if someone asked me what are Israeli foods I'd list things they eat in Israel often and less here: bourekas, falafel, malawach, zaatar, tomato-cucumber salad, etc. But it's definitely not exclusively or origina Israeli [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:36 AM Flag
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I understand but from our perspective, it is sort of like "You took our land and now our culture"--that is extreme, but do you know what I mean? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:29 AM Flag
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except that most of the people who were in Israel aat the time it became a country were already there. they were born and raised there [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:30 AM Flag
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I don't think this is correct. There were some Jews pre-1948 but Israel's pop is overwhemingly immigrant [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:32 AM Flag
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or: I don't want to get into 'you took our land' (I don't agree but I know it's complicated). I see what you mean about culture bt don't think of it as taking - neighboring people always have similar cultures (and differences). I agree that arguin [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:32 AM Flag
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^^^I agree that arguing something like 'falafel is Israeli, NOT lebanese' is silly. Same for zaatar. Id never argue that... and btw, what's called here "Israeli salad" is called "arabic salad" in Israel :) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:33 AM Flag
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ok [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.17.08, 08:34 AM Flag
[ - ] So, it turns out that Terri Edersheim is not taking on any new pregnancy patients. I liked Hutson, but did not appreciate Kessler all that much. People keep telling me to stick w/ Cornell b/c of the NICU, even though we had a pretty lousy post-partum ex perience there. Was really going to stick with it to stick w/ Edersheim, but now am thinking about Marks/Wegman at Lenox Hill. Any thoughts? I'm eight weeks. I have to get going. (I am under an RE's care right now, although I got pg on my own this time!) TIA 21 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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New York City 01.22.08, 06:47 AM Flag
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I LOVE Leonard at Cornell - he was my OB for both kids and delivered #1; Dobrenis (who is one of my favorite docs of all time) delivered #2. Great practice. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.22.08, 06:48 AM Flag
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full practice name? Thanks [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.22.08, 06:49 AM Flag
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Let's see, it's Leonard, Dobrenis and Hockstein. They're at the Iris Cantor Womens' Center on 61st... I think the phone is 821.0800 (but that's from memory - who knows!) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.22.08, 06:52 AM Flag
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I used Hockstein [ Reply | More
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General Topics 12.21.16, 01:02 PM Flag
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FWIW, my kids were in the NICU at Columbia and could not have received better care. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.22.08, 06:48 AM Flag
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what is it like? new? old? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.22.08, 10:58 AM Flag
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I delivered there. Kalish was my OB and Sylvestre delivered db. Loved them both and had great care (with the exception of one or two nurses who were not that nice, but over the course of 4 days I think that's pretty average). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.22.08, 06:51 AM Flag
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I loved Cornell; Edersheim delivered me; Hutson did my amnio and handled some pre-delivery complications and was GREAT. I'd stick w/ them and hope Kessler isn't who delivers you (I think he's a good dr., just not much personality). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.22.08, 06:52 AM Flag
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I love Edersheim, and she was my primary, but she didn't deliver me. In fact, I was in the hospital for 5 days and did not see her once. Wu, who I met once delivered me. I do like/respect/feel comfortable w/ Hutson, esp for the amnio (I had twins last time), but I'm just hesitant to have just Hutson and Kessler, plus my lousy cornell experience last time. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.22.08, 07:00 AM Flag
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How did you like Wu? I believe she left the practice but is on her own now. What happend @ Cornell? They were so great w/ us. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.22.08, 07:04 AM Flag
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actually, I like Wu a lot, but I had only met her ONCE before she delivered me, and that was only because I came in for a terrible headache a week before I delivered. I really loved Edersheim, and to a lesser degree Hutson, but for the overall practice a nd hospital I was mixed. Still, my other docs keep telling me it is the best NICU, just in case. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.22.08, 07:06 AM Flag
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Do you have a particular reason to be concerned about NICU or "just in case"? I like Wu too, have seen her in her own practice but always had more confidence when she had the H&E office behind her too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.22.08, 07:14 AM Flag
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no particular reasons at this time. It is very early. I am 40, however. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.22.08, 07:24 AM Flag
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Gotcha. Good luck! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.22.08, 07:25 AM Flag
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Agree with the above: for #1 I had dobrenis and leonard delivered, both amazing. For #2 I had Kalish and Sylvestre delivered, both very good. If no insurance issues go with dobrenis and if you have insurance kalish. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.22.08, 07:00 AM Flag
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Hutson is a good choice. You will see all the drs in the practice. I have delivered 5 dc with them, and had a lousey pp experience too with my 1st. I will say you really need to speak up for yourself in that situation [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.22.08, 07:04 AM Flag
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yes, only the practice is down to Hutson and Kessler only. I agree about speaking up for yourself, but I was pretty naive. I come from a family with a lot of physicians (in another city), so we're all used to very personal treatment. My experience wa a big shock. (Although, granted, not a clinic in sub-saharan Africa.) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.22.08, 07:08 AM Flag
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Hutson is highly regarded at Cornell with the hospital (dr and nurses). The difference for me the 2nd time around was letting the nurses and him know there was a problem. Prep DH too [ Reply | More
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You just need to make sure that the NICU is level 3. If your kids need more care than that they will be transferred anyway, so pick an MD you like. Mine were in the NICU at Beth Israel for 6 weeks and had great care. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.22.08, 07:08 AM Flag
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Terri Edersheim along with Keller were part of a practice the left my son at birth with a subdural hematoma at birth. He now has severe cerebral palsy, feeds through a gastrostomy tube, and has severe medical problem - last month he had back surgery to correct his scoliosis. Edersheim never once said she was at least sorry about the outcome, or did follow up enquires to see how Alex was doing. While this is obviously not the moral equivalent of the Nazis who killed most of my family, from a phenomenological point of view it is sometimes hard to see the difference. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 03.29.14, 11:57 AM Flag
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Almost all NYC nicu are level 4 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 12.21.16, 12:59 PM Flag
[ - ] i love turkish foo, and you? 12 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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New York City 01.12.08, 12:59 PM Flag
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^^food^^ [ Reply | More
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same, my roomate in college was Turkish and I've loved it ever since [ Reply | More
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yum! [ Reply | More
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what do you order? [ Reply | More
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esme, cacik, borek, mucver, doner, adana kebabs, manti [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.12.08, 01:05 PM Flag
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translation please? I know what the kebabs are.. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.12.08, 01:06 PM Flag
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esme is a spicy tomato spread, cacik is a cucumber garlic yogurt dip, borek is spinach/feta pastry,mucver is fried zucchini patties, doner is thinly sliced seasoned lamb (like gyro), manti are mini raviolis [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.12.08, 01:15 PM Flag
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manti are more like lamb-filled dumplings. delicious lamb filled dumplings. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.12.08, 01:25 PM Flag
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mmm...I went to a restaurant in Turkey where they served the manti crisped up and swimming in butter/yogurt. SOO amazing [ Reply | More
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np: sounds a lot like Greek food [ Reply | More
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a lot of it is orig Turkish, spread through to Greece and other Balkan countries through Ottoman empire. [ Reply | More
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mmmmmmm. I could live on lebni, too [ Reply | More
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General Topics 01.12.08, 01:25 PM Flag
[ - ] Describe these "mom jeans" for me. I wear jeans from the Gap or Old Navy. Mid rise, boot cut, dark-ish. Are those mom jeans? Or are MJs high waisted and light wash only? 21 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 12.01.07, 02:39 PM Flag
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google [ Reply | More
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General Topics 12.01.07, 02:39 PM Flag
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guess you don't know [ Reply | More
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I am so getting NYDJ jeans, not your daughters jeans. they work [ Reply | More
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General Topics 12.01.07, 02:39 PM Flag
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to me, your son't sound like mom jeans. not the height of fashion, but definitely not mom jeans. mom jeans are high waisted and have tapered legs. they are also usually light wash [ Reply | More
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General Topics 12.01.07, 02:40 PM Flag
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ding ding ding - wear these with whitew snaekers to complete the look [ Reply | More
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General Topics 12.01.07, 02:41 PM Flag
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yes, definitely! [ Reply | More
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So it's the Jerry Seinfeld look, but for women? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 12.01.07, 02:42 PM Flag
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that is a good way of putting it [ Reply | More
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lol [ Reply | More
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General Topics 12.01.07, 02:43 PM Flag
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No, those are not mom jeans. But you can make them less so anyway by going with a lower rise and darker. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 12.01.07, 02:40 PM Flag
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imo, mom jeans are light wash, high waisted with a fupa [ Reply | More
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General Topics 12.01.07, 02:40 PM Flag
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oh dear, what do you be the next question here will be what's a fupa? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 12.01.07, 02:41 PM Flag
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doesn't everyone know this already? if not, I'm happy to answer it [ Reply | More
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ok, Ill bite, I don't know [ Reply | More
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General Topics 12.01.07, 02:45 PM Flag
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Fat Upper Pu$$y Area [ Reply | More
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lol!!!!! [ Reply | More
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I'll bite, what's a fupa? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 12.01.07, 02:45 PM Flag
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aren't mom jeans non-designer jeans [ Reply | More
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General Topics 12.01.07, 02:40 PM Flag
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no, i have never heard that [ Reply | More
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General Topics 12.01.07, 02:41 PM Flag
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two words: Eddie Bauer [ Reply | More
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General Topics 12.01.07, 02:46 PM Flag
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kfhLx9fDAU [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.01.13, 05:43 AM Flag
[ - ] Who is head of admissions at Spence? Who is Cathy Pradie-Connick? Who is the head of school and what is she like? 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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New York City 11.23.07, 09:34 PM Flag
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Head is Susan Parker. CPC is an admissions associate. Head of school is Bodie Brizendine. New this year, but people like her. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 11.24.07, 05:05 PM Flag
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Bodie is amazing! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 02.22.14, 11:16 PM Flag
[ - ] Name poll: Adam, Brandon, Griffin or Grant? These are the only ones we can agree on. TIA 16 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 11.10.07, 06:54 AM Flag
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the first 2 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 11.10.07, 06:54 AM Flag
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agree [ Reply | More
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General Topics 11.10.07, 06:58 AM Flag
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Which of the 2 do you prefer? I think I'm leaning towards Adam [ Reply | More
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General Topics 11.10.07, 06:59 AM Flag
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me too, bc it's a little more uncommon [ Reply | More
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General Topics 11.10.07, 07:03 AM Flag
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prefer Adam to Brandon also [ Reply | More
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General Topics 11.10.07, 07:05 AM Flag
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^^we're naming after a relative, so we're working with specific initials and these are what we both liked [ Reply | More
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General Topics 11.10.07, 06:54 AM Flag
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adam [ Reply | More
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adam [ Reply | More
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griffin [ Reply | More
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I can't stand the name Grant for a child... don't mind it for a grown-up, tho [ Reply | More
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General Topics 11.10.07, 06:54 AM Flag
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he will be a grwon up for vast majority of his life [ Reply | More
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General Topics 11.10.07, 06:58 AM Flag
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touche [ Reply | More
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General Topics 11.10.07, 07:00 AM Flag
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Jees..i can honestly say i've never struggled. My brother is Brandon..i'll go with that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 11.10.07, 06:55 AM Flag
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Adam only good choice. HATE HATE HATE Brandon [ Reply | More
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General Topics 11.10.07, 07:00 AM Flag
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I love Adam and the rest are ehh. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 11.10.07, 07:03 AM Flag
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LOVE LOVE LOVE Brandon [ Reply | More
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General Topics 11.03.13, 01:44 PM Flag
[ - ] Mandell parents: How helpful is director with exmissions? 22 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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New York City 10.04.07, 02:11 PM Flag
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Basically she tells you where your dc is going to go, and it generally happens. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 10.04.07, 02:51 PM Flag
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And people call this good exmissions?? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 10.04.07, 03:09 PM Flag
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You will be hard-pressed to find a Mandell parent who was unhappy with the exmissions process or where their child wound up. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 10.04.07, 10:02 PM Flag
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ITD. If you are even considering public (H/A, G&T) do not go to Mandell. The Director will practically call child protective services on you and let you know 7 ways from Sunday what a bad parent you are. They're also overly quick to "diagnose" your chi with issues and get them into therapy at age 3. It's not appropriate and feeds into the stereotype that NYers are nuts. (This from just observing friends go into therapy about what a head trip the Director did to them.) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 10.05.07, 04:20 AM Flag
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Do the kids that get sent to therapy or ot or whatever still exmit to tt? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 10.05.07, 07:41 AM Flag
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Some do, if she likes your family and if you don't make her insecure. You see, it's all about HER, not your kid [ Reply | More
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General Topics 04.30.14, 08:23 PM Flag
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Hey, if you have an axe to grind with Mandell (as you clearly do), that's your business. Mandell parents are overwhelmingly happy about the school - they just don't talk about it, here. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 10.05.07, 07:53 PM Flag
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Don't kid yourself. If Mandell parents were happy, there would be nothing stopping them from posting here. Their silence speaks volumes about the culture of the school and its intimidated parent body. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 10.06.07, 07:25 PM Flag
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np - I've posted several times about our experience at Mandell. We've sent 2 dcs there & were very happy with the school. G can be tremendously abrasive but we never had any problems (and neither of our kids was 'diagnosed' with anything.) Our exmissi experience was as good as can be expected, in NYC - our kids are at a fantastic school, which is all we could ask for. I was apprehensive about sending dc #1 to Mandell after hearing all of the horror stories here; aside from some overly-tense parents, we loved the school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 10.06.07, 09:48 PM Flag
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Thanks for your post. But you may be forgetting your feelings as a parent while you were there & before the results of your exmissions. Just b/c your dc didn't get a diagnosis doesn' t mean the school didn't recommend something for your dcs, which is standard there. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 10.07.07, 03:29 PM Flag
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lol - No, I haven't forgotten. It was quite recent, as a matter of fact! And nothing was recommended for our kids except an eye exam (they were right - he needed glasses) & ideas for playdates. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 10.08.07, 10:35 AM Flag
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Whatever. Hard to know what's truthful on this board. IRL many Mandell parents have bad stories about the school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 10.08.07, 09:04 PM Flag
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It IS hard to know what the truth is, here. However, one thing is for sure - I sent kids to mandell and have been honest about our experience... and you did not send kids to mandell and are reporting what you've heard, from others. I leave the readers to judge which viewpoint is more reliable. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 10.09.07, 09:22 AM Flag
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I think you are trying to sell the school your kids went to as well. You're not totally disinterested here. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 10.10.07, 06:22 PM Flag
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Of course I am! We had a great experience. I recommend the school to friends. Why wouldn't I do so here? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 10.10.07, 07:32 PM Flag
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Because you are probably the HOS of the school! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 04.29.14, 01:31 PM Flag
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I sent my dcs to Mandell and what the PP says is ALL true. Lots of intimidation and manipulation on the part of the HOS, very unscrupulous behavior, attempts to label dc and other invasive behaviors. Avoid this place because there is no oversight of the HOS and her unethical practices. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 04.29.14, 01:31 PM Flag
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Dozens of posts have DISAPPEARED over the past year attesting to the many awful experiences parents have had with Mandell over their kids. They were just sold and are trying to cover up their tracks. Unfortunately for them, it's not hard to keep records of these threads. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 04.30.14, 08:25 PM Flag
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I find this hard to believe. The Mandell exmissions list wasn't that impressive. A lot of holes in placement & missing a # of TT schools [ Reply | More
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General Topics 10.05.07, 10:14 AM Flag
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LOLOL [ Reply | More
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General Topics 10.05.07, 07:53 PM Flag
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Sweet dreams in never never land [ Reply | More
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General Topics 10.06.07, 07:23 PM Flag
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I have known of MANY displeased Mandell parents [ Reply | More
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General Topics 04.30.14, 08:22 PM Flag
[ - ] Its time for............. THINGS THAT ARE TACKY! 1. bridal shower lingerie 35 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 09.28.07, 12:58 PM Flag
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2. french mani/pedis [ Reply | More
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^^^tacky? since when? [ Reply | More
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omg, you must be new here [ Reply | More
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Snapple [ Reply | More
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french pedicure [ Reply | More
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thank you as i have been thining this for years. YEARS!! [ Reply | More
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you [ Reply | More
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DOLLAR DANCE [ Reply | More
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Talking very loudly on the subway [ Reply | More
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bridal tiara [ Reply | More
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engagement parties, cards enclosed in invites to tell you where the person is registered. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 01:00 PM Flag
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i've been to some very nice engagement parties. what's tacky about that. old money people. [ Reply | More
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ita re engagement parties [ Reply | More
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shorts, kool-aid, any sort of velvet wall hanging [ Reply | More
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Lol shorts? Why not say apples. [ Reply | More
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garter removal [ Reply | More
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my neighbors, who are cuurently blasting the DJ music in their back yard for their dd's 6 yo party [ Reply | More
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OMG [ Reply | More
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adults chewing gum [ Reply | More
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Or chewing tobacco. [ Reply | More
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fake boobs [ Reply | More
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cash bars [ Reply | More
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At a wedding [ Reply | More
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Drinking beer on on the LIRR. [ Reply | More
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Big Butts [ Reply | More
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Surprise bridal showers [ Reply | More
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Grown men wearing football jerseys [ Reply | More
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Pink velour tracksuits. (Though I have to say, a friend gave me one as a gag gift and it's really comfortable). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.10.15, 06:35 PM Flag
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Paying no mind to any children but your own at a toddlers bday party [ Reply | More
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Neck or facial tattoos. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.10.15, 06:36 PM Flag
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Also piercings anywhere except ears and sometimes nostrils. [ Reply | More
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Kids on leashes. [ Reply | More
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Jeans with the knees ripped out. [ Reply | More
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People who are staying in hotels who come to breakfast barefoot. Pajamas I could sort of understand, but barefoot? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.10.15, 08:04 PM Flag
[ - ] My a-hole SIL is the school psychologist for an elem school. She says things like " don't name your db Brandon or Jared unless you want them to end up in special ed." 22 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 09.28.07, 11:25 AM Flag
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charming [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 11:25 AM Flag
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oh god, where to begin with that...there are so many idiots running schools. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 11:25 AM Flag
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that's only one example. how about when we are at the playground " that kid will end up in my office for testing in about 3 years" [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 11:27 AM Flag
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i bet parents would looove to hear those sorts of comments [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 11:28 AM Flag
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I'd personally like to rip her face off. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 11:34 AM Flag
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+1,000,000 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 11.09.13, 04:41 PM Flag
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Really?? That is scary [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 11:26 AM Flag
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She sounds dumb [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 11:26 AM Flag
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+1 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 11.09.13, 04:43 PM Flag
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and she's a psych? what a jacka** [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 11:26 AM Flag
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totally - I really can't stand her [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 11:27 AM Flag
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np: I know too many psycho psychologists... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 11:36 AM Flag
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THIS [ Reply | More
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General Topics 11.09.13, 04:43 PM Flag
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maybe she has experience with many Brandons and Jareds in Special Ed [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 11:27 AM Flag
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that is her point. and you find that a valid comment from a professional? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 11:28 AM Flag
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wow, here's someone who can rival your SIL for stupidity [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 11:29 AM Flag
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what the hell are you talking about? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 11:30 AM Flag
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sorry meant for poster of "Maybe she has experience with Brandons and Jareds in spec ed" poster [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 11:33 AM Flag
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sorry. :) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 11:35 AM Flag
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Tell her to meet my little nephew Brandon - he's very well behaved and respectful. Not to mention incredibly bright. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 11.09.13, 04:40 PM Flag
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that is horrible [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 11:36 AM Flag
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Your SIL = idiot. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 11.09.13, 04:42 PM Flag
[ - ] Pick a name: Sigrid, Selma, Astrid, Ebba, Alma, Elina, Annette 26 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Toddler 09.28.07, 06:41 AM Flag
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i love astrid [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 06:41 AM Flag
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selma or elina [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 06:42 AM Flag
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Do I have to? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 06:42 AM Flag
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I love astrid too [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 06:42 AM Flag
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if I must ... Astrid [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 06:42 AM Flag
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Sigrid or Elina. Selma, Ebba and Alma sound like old ladies, Annette is a secretary name, and Astrid is too german.. Nice, but only if you're German. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 06:42 AM Flag
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I know a Dagmar. Love this name...just throwing it in. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 06:42 AM Flag
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Is that a girl's name? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 06:43 AM Flag
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yes! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 06:45 AM Flag
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Okay, cool [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 06:47 AM Flag
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i like Elina [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 06:43 AM Flag
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Annette - nn Annie [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 06:43 AM Flag
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+1 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 03.18.14, 02:30 PM Flag
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+1 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 03.18.14, 02:31 PM Flag
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no. try again [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 06:43 AM Flag
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OP: sorry, DH is Swedish. Must pick from these [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 06:44 AM Flag
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then i would say annette [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 06:45 AM Flag
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my dh is swedish too but doesnt mean you have to pick a swedish name [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 06:46 AM Flag
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I know, but we both want to. I am very fond of Sweden and the language [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 06:47 AM Flag
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Then what about Anneliese or Linnea? Klara, Jana, lots of better possibilities.. [ Reply | More
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I like Linnea [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 06:48 AM Flag
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negra [ Reply | More
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Carl Linnaeus [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 06:49 AM Flag
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Astrid or ALma. Selma means "racial tension" to me. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 06:46 AM Flag
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Selma [ Reply | More
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1 Astrid, 1 Sigrid, 3 Selma [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.28.07, 06:48 AM Flag
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Toddler 09.25.07, 11:40 AM Flag
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skip it, but if you must, books. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.25.07, 11:42 AM Flag
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Webkins trading cards, baseball cards [ Reply | More
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Pokemon cards [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.04.14, 04:14 AM Flag
[ - ] acronym help New to the game (and the board). Would someone mind taking a moment to define the commonly-used acronyms? (TIA, SAHM, NP, CIO, etc.) I feel like a need a translator to follow some of the posts. 6 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Expecting 09.25.07, 07:48 AM Flag
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all of this is listed under 'help' on the tool bar [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.25.07, 07:49 AM Flag
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click on Help on the lower right; there is an acronym key [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.25.07, 07:49 AM Flag
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TIA = thanks in advance, Stay at Home Mom, New poster, Cry It Out [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.25.07, 07:51 AM Flag
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ahhh, thanks! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.25.07, 07:54 AM Flag
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THere is no help on the lower right of my screen [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.13, 01:02 PM Flag
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They're teasing you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 03.23.17, 04:52 PM Flag
[ - ] Episcopal vs. 92Y. Arguably the two best preschool programs. Aside from Jewish/non-Jewish, what are the major differences? Any parents look at/tour both and have opinions? 55 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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New York City 09.07.07, 12:52 PM Flag
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Arguably? Get over yourself. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.07.07, 12:54 PM Flag
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she's not talking about herself and many would agree with her. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.07.07, 12:56 PM Flag
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and many would not. What is the criteria for "best?" [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.07.07, 12:57 PM Flag
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^^^besides best place for wannabe social climbers [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.07.07, 12:57 PM Flag
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if you've been to these schools, you have to admit they have great early education programs by objective criteria. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.07.07, 01:00 PM Flag
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there are many others in this town that are just as good. I'm not buying your wannabe excuse [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.07.07, 01:01 PM Flag
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they're not wannabes. at these schools it's the real deal. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.07.07, 01:04 PM Flag
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what -- you needed to look it up? "Arguably" is a fine word. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.07.07, 12:57 PM Flag
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I said arguably. People are entitled to different opinions. Whatever you think, these are very fine schools. The question was really around the differences between the two (excluding the obvious religious difference). Would be grateful if people could he lp with that part. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.07.07, 01:04 PM Flag
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We chose Episcopal even though we live much closer to the Y. I didn't like the physical environment at the Y. The classrooms and play area were fine but the common areas are so grungy and the security is off-putting. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.07.07, 12:55 PM Flag
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you must be really rich to have gotten into both [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.07.07, 12:56 PM Flag
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The Jewish education at the Y is the main difference. They don't celebrate secular holidays and they teach a lot about Jewish holidays. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.07.07, 12:58 PM Flag
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wasp socialites vs jewish socialites. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.07.07, 01:01 PM Flag
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Bingo! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.07.07, 01:01 PM Flag
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a little more sophisticated and thoughtful response would be appreciated [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.07.07, 01:04 PM Flag
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not really actually. many jews at episcopal. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.07.07, 01:06 PM Flag
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not many - perhaps 10% [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.07.07, 01:13 PM Flag
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we are episcopal parents and jewish - small group but there are a few of us [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.07.07, 01:13 PM Flag
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For instance, how do the 2 schools compare on these CRITERIA: 1) quality of PSDs; 2) facilities; 3) nature of the parent body; 4) philosophy (developmental vs traditional)? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.07.07, 01:05 PM Flag
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On the PSDs, Nancy seemed nice and genuine. Judith was OK but she is political and helped engineer the firing of the previous PSD who she worked for [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.07.07, 01:06 PM Flag
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Epis parent here. I like Judith notwithstanding the history [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.07.07, 01:22 PM Flag
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Both have great facilities, with the edge to 92Y for its retractable roof playarea [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.07.07, 01:08 PM Flag
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parents are obnoxious at both [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.07.07, 01:08 PM Flag
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episcopal more traditional [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.07.07, 01:09 PM Flag
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A teacher criticized my 1.5 yo at the Y playdate for calling the challah bread. We decided at that moment that we hated the school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.07.07, 01:06 PM Flag
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wow - so much for tolerance [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.07.07, 01:08 PM Flag
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exactly! I was psyched she could come up with "bread" at age 1.5! It was very negative and hurt her feelings. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.07.07, 01:10 PM Flag
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that is really unnecessary IMHO [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.07.07, 01:21 PM Flag
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criticized or corrected? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.07.07, 01:34 PM