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[ - ] Not to be mean, but twins have lost their thrill. It used to be a big deal, but now I just feel bad for the couple and wonder how much it cost for the treatments. 15 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:18 AM Flag
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you are really strange. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:19 AM Flag
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it really is amazing how common twins are now. i think it has made us overlook how risky twin births still are for the babies and the mother. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:20 AM Flag
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same here [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:20 AM Flag
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We checked "no" on the twin box. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:34 AM Flag
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Mom of twins (from IVF here): I assume everyone knows we did treatment...I mean what are the chances of fraternal twins naturally? But your comment sounds snarky to me. Nobody WANTS to go through infertility and it is very painful emotionally and physically. I did not want twins, but now that they are a bit older, I am happy that I do not have to go through more treatments to have more than one child. So, ,no, I didn't "check the twins box," but you shouldn't pass judgement on those who did. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:50 AM Flag
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Mom of twins without IVF... myob [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:52 AM Flag
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Isn't funny how everyone assumes someone with multiples or an older mother was on meds. I concieved without medical intervention at 41 (we weren't even trying to concieve just lax about birth control) and everyone assumes we did fertility treatment. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 09:27 AM Flag
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You have an odd way of not being mean. Why do you even care? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 09:35 AM Flag
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Well, when you see about ten sets of them a day it does kind of lose it's specialness [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 10:17 AM Flag
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who cares about specialness? That's not why people do fertility treatments...to allow you to see something special. Poor you. Get a life. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 10:37 AM Flag
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I feel sorry for them when it comes to exmissions. There also a whole bunch of sib twins who get two spots (have never met one who was dinged), so I also feel sorry for people applying in as there seems to be at least one set of twins per class these days. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 10:43 AM Flag
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you feel sorry for the twin parents or the singleton parents? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 10:57 AM Flag
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Feel sorry for unconnected twin and singleton parents. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 10:58 AM Flag
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it really annoys me when people say that it is unfair that twins take up 2 spots in a class...a person can have 4 kids at different times and nobody complains that that family is taking up 4 spots in different grades, but if it's twins everyone thinks it is so unfair. I am totally unconnected and my twins were accepted into 3 good preschools, one ongoing. I have heard that twins are at a disadvantage because there are so many, so I wish people wouldn't make a big deal out of a couple of sets of twins in a classroom. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 11:02 AM Flag
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Well, if there are twins taking 2 spots out of 50, it's very different than 4 kids taking up 4 spots out of 200 over different years. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 11:12 AM Flag
[ - ] where can i take my bug for a fixin in nyc? 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:17 AM Flag
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Albee? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 11:08 AM Flag
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where did you buy it? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 11:11 AM Flag
[ - ] any good ideas for bridal shower present not from registry for a trendy girl in nyc? 5 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:17 AM Flag
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In the same box, side by side. The Joy of Cooking. The Joy of Sex. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:19 AM Flag
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cute! (not op) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:39 AM Flag
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A Tee-shirt that says "No babies are allowed at my wedding" [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:46 AM Flag
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tee hee [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:51 AM Flag
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something fun from Toys in Babeland [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:50 AM Flag
[ - ] name poll: jake yes or no ? 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:14 AM Flag
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if you want him to be one of 6 in his class, sure [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:15 AM Flag
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no [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:15 AM Flag
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not feeling it. sorry. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:18 AM Flag
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# 1 boy name in US now according to social security site. you could be a bit more original. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:51 AM Flag
[ - ] What exactly does a tummy tuck do? How much does it cost? Any chance insurance would cover after twin birth? My boss had liposuction in her belly & now her fat just pops up around that area. Does TT have any probs like that? Thanks! 2 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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New York City 07.25.08, 08:12 AM Flag
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tummy tucks remove a large portion of belly skin, pull the remaining skin down and sew it to the skin below (leaving a large horizontal scar usually just above the pubic hair line). a new "belly button" is created by cutting a hole in the remaining skin and sewing it together in a pucker. no, insurance will NOT cover it. it is purely cosmetic. why don't you wait until a good year or more pp and see how well your skin bounces back on its own first? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:17 AM Flag
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my boss had her back problems and pilates covered by insurance. the pilates strengthened her core. not sure how she did it, but I would go this route before surgery [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:18 AM Flag
[ - ] You have to laugh when a mom states she had to have a c-section b/c her hip are too small, etc. Do you know how many babies are born to tiny women?! It is so obvious they are upset about not experiencing birht and try to throw a "I am thin" spin on it. Flame away 21 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:11 AM Flag
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You can be thin or fat and have small pelvis. Where did you get your md degree? I think the school owes you a refund. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:13 AM Flag
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np: she is referring to the moron women who say this. She didn't say it [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:14 AM Flag
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moron? geeze. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:15 AM Flag
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I totally agree with you [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:13 AM Flag
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Being thin has nothing to do with having small hips. I am a very skinny minny & had no problem delivering, but know women who are bigger, but who had to have c/s b/c the baby wouldn't fit. You can't really tell by looking at women if their hips are big enough. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:14 AM Flag
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exactly - I posted above, I have birthing hips! There is not fat on em (size four) but I pop out big babies with ease. My aunt on the other hand (size 12) has incredibly small pelvis. Ended up with a section [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:17 AM Flag
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So I guess when you look back in history and see how babies doied in the birth canal and mothers who die in birth it didn't have anything to do with this situaltion. Many babies died in the birth canal because of the situation stated above. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:40 AM Flag
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historically, a lot of those women were malnourished and/or had malformed pelvises. yes, some women hadve plevises that won't open, but there is in general no way to ID them before labor -- and how wide your hips lookisn't much of a predictor. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 09:14 AM Flag
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if the dr can barely get a speculum inside you that's a pretty good indication, actually. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 09:15 AM Flag
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sorry, but being small doesn't have anything to do with it. My pelvis is very close-set and does not open for childbirth. I am not a tiny woman, but my mother and grandmother were the same - and after laboring for 36 hours, pushing for 8 and having the baby go nowhere, it was decided I NEEDED a c/s. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:43 AM Flag
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^^^ i am 5'7, 135lbs and wear a size 6, so yes, I'm thin but I'm not tiny. it has to do with your body type/pelvis and not your thinness [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:45 AM Flag
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I am one of these women. But I am 5'9" and 150, hardly skinny! I have always had to wear men's jeans because I have narrow hips. I did have a 10 lb db too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:57 AM Flag
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the op is clearly a judgemental idiot. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:59 AM Flag
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I discovered after having a baby that most women are! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 09:01 AM Flag
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sadly true. I knew before having db #1 that I'd probably have to have a c/s (had my gyno tell me how narrow my pelvis was at my first gyn appt, age 18), but I did try (posted about about my long labor - and my mom and grandmother had the same thing) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 09:02 AM Flag
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it is not the hips it is the cervix that is the issue. My dw is over six feet tall and her hips are not "too small" but she pushed for hours and just could not get dc through cervix. Her OB said after c/s that she ought not try vaginal birth again. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 09:36 AM Flag
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My bad, I meant pelvis, not cervix. Sorry. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 09:40 AM Flag
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that's what I figured (I'm or above who tried to push for hours too) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 09:45 AM Flag
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yeah, dw did all the work and still got the scar and all... I have to say though, she got one of the greatest looking dc out of the deal so... (I'm being completely objective and all.) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 09:50 AM Flag
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lol. I may have to fight you for it! My dcs are gorgeous too! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 09:55 AM Flag
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What if we call it a tie? (but are you COMPLETELY objective?) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 10:31 AM Flag
[ - ] Is my 4 yr old in any danger if she has had vaccines but some classmates haven't due to "religious exemptions"??? 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:06 AM Flag
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she should be fine [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:08 AM Flag
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sniff, sniff... smells like a trigger post to me - but if not, just talk to your ped about your concerns. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:10 AM Flag
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op: lol, trigger it is! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:12 AM Flag
[ - ] Has anyone had a child in the 90th percentile for weight and 50th for height...then finally even out? I am nervous for my dd who falls in this boat. 4 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:58 AM Flag
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don't stress [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:02 AM Flag
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You have a short and stout db? What does the ped say? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:03 AM Flag
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mine is the opposite... ped told me it evens out [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:03 AM Flag
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feed your dc a healthy diet and make sure dc gets plenty of physical activity. Nothing else to do. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:11 AM Flag
[ - ] anyone heard of Colbie Caillat? 3 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:58 AM Flag
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no. is it a person with a bad name? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:04 AM Flag
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yes. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:04 AM Flag
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yes - i believe she's Canadian. 2 recent songs on radio stations [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 11:38 AM Flag
[ - ] Do I need to ask if I can bring my 4 month old to a friend's wedding? 144 Replies [ Reply | Watch | More
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Newborn 07.25.08, 07:55 AM Flag
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of course [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:57 AM Flag
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this is going to sound dumb, but why? the kid's not eating, crawling, obviously won't be crying... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:57 AM Flag
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doesn't matter - they could be crying, and unless the baby was specifically invited, I would not even ask and hire a sitter for the night. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:59 AM Flag
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that's ridiculous. why does someone care if there's a baby at a wedding, especially when they don't require food, highchair, or any extra work? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:01 AM Flag
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trust me, they absolutely care. You've got single-minded new mom brain, but as a recent bride, believe me, they care. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:02 AM Flag
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I need more of an explanation. why does the bride care? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:05 AM Flag
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The bride cares b/c she didn't invite your db. Some brides don't want ANY children (even ones that don't cost them $) at the wedding. Plus, it is common courtesy to ask. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:06 AM Flag
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ITTTTA. I was just married in April and I provided a babysitter for my sisters dcs and by sil's db, but they were the only ones whose kids were there, everyone else who had children left them at home -and no one would even have asked(if they had I would have offered them my on-site babysitter but no children were allowed at the actual wedding) - I can't believe how selfish this op sounds. This wedding is not about you or your child! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:08 AM Flag
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Case in point. A world without children as part of any celebration is, to my mind, a less joyful world but those who wish to live in it may go right ahead. Children at every life-cycle ritual for us!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:10 AM Flag
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good for you. However, my evening wedding at a formal location was not appropraite for children. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:11 AM Flag
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My kids have been to several black tie events celebrating rites of passage. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:14 AM Flag
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so have mine, but it is up to the people hosting the event to determine who is invited. not the guests. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:14 AM Flag
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ITTTA [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:31 AM Flag
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I was just married last year as well and the only children specifically invited to my wedding were my 6 yo and 1 yo nieces. Having said that, one couple did bring their 5 mo baby, but they asked us if it would be all right ahead of time. I would have been annoying if they had been presumptuous enough just to bring the baby w/o informing us. Our wedding was an evening black-tie adults only affair. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:10 AM Flag
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clearly not adults only. you invited a 6yo and a 1yo. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:11 AM Flag
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Yes, I invited my nieces - they were the ONLY two invited guests under 21 at a wedding of 200 people. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:13 AM Flag
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so, it wasn't adults only. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:16 AM Flag
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Semantics, but yes, you are right. It was 99% adults. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:19 AM Flag
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yes, so what ? ..kids were family [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 05:00 PM Flag
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exactly my point. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:12 AM Flag
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and brides who think the wedding is the culmination of their life's achievement need to get their heads out of their asses. that you would choose your own perverted notion that children should be invisible over a friend's comfort is really mind-blowing. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:11 AM Flag
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my friends would be nore comfortable without their young babies there to have to take care of... have you people never wanted a few hours of relative "freedom" to enjoy being an adult? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:11 AM Flag
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you don't get to decide at which events other women would have more fun...i spend plenty of time without my kid. and their are someweddings where i'd have a better time without him, and some, like when my kid was 8 weeks, when i would have been miserable without him. but it sounds like i have way nicer friends than you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:13 AM Flag
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if it was my wedding I do get to determine who is invited and who is not. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:15 AM Flag
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My husband and I BOTH enjoy being adults who have children and celebrate with them along with the rest of our family, synagogue, etc... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:15 AM Flag
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You are reading a lot into the previous poster's comment. She didn't say her wedding was the culmination of her life's achievements. It was, however, an event that cost $30-200k and she should be able to dictate how she wants that event to unfold. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:13 AM Flag
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no, you see, that is the exact problem with women like you. spend what you want on your weddings (although if you spend 200K, then you really need to have your head examined--and you do think its the culmination of your life's achievement) but you don't get to dictate how events unfold. ever. life in unpredictable, other people have needs, and if you think a four month old sleeping at your friend's breast ruins your big day, you're an ass. period. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:15 AM Flag
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no one can guarantee that a 4mo will sleep through the wedding. I had a friend who did not invite babies but a guest brought theirs, and the child cried through the entire ceremony. Sorry, but that kind of ruins the moment. If you can't think about respecting the wishes of a bride and groom on their wedding then you're the ass. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:17 AM Flag
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Women like me? What's with the vitriol? I wasn't the previous poster, but I was defending her. I gave that range b/c that is how much weddings cost these days and if you don't realize that, you have your head in the sand. I would have never let an uninvited baby ruin my day but I would have FAR preferred to know the baby was coming in advance. FWIW - I got married at 36 and planned my wedding in 4 months - was not the "women like me" you seem to be describing. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:18 AM Flag
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I was the previous poster and I was married at 25, planned my wedding in 4 WEEKS because my future fil was dying. Due to space, timing and lots of other things, we hired babysitters for the 3 children in the family under age 6 (the other "children" were teenagers, they attended) and no one else brought their baby - or asked. PLEASE. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:20 AM Flag
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weddings do not just cost 200K--that's a lifestyle choice and a stupid one at that. and if you think that is just what they cost, then you are exactly the kind of woman i think you are. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:21 AM Flag
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sorry, but some weddings do (not mine for sure, I agree that it is crazy to spend that much) - but to each their own. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:23 AM Flag
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Not all weddings cost that much (mine didn't) but MANY do. I've been to several weddings that were upwards of $100K. If you live in NYC - that's just the way it is. It has nothing to do with me. If you google, you will find that the average wedding in NYC is $30-75K so of course the are many that are more than that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:26 AM Flag
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yep. I just had my wedding (planned in 4 weeks which is a whole other story). In order to have 100 guests (which is pretty small compared to many weddings) our wedding was just under 40K. And yes, I budgeted very carefully and we didn't have a very fancy wedding. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:29 AM Flag
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This is where the Hear, hear!! goes - not below where it got bumped to. Baby at the breast is a beautiful thing at a wedding or any other event. That said, your friend may well be an ass. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:20 AM Flag
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wow... baby at the breast during a sit-down dinner at a wedding... I'm all for bf but that is just not appropriate [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:21 AM Flag
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Hear Hear!!!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:14 AM Flag
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who are you?? how selfish? excuse me for being a new mom who's not totally up to speed on wedding/baby etiquette? I'm asking a question - I thought that was the purpose of this site. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:13 AM Flag
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yes, and you've gotten an answer- don't take your baby unless she's invited [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:14 AM Flag
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ITTTTTA - it's her event and if babay is not invited, that answers your question [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:18 AM Flag
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You obviously don't like the answers you are hearing, however, they are truthful. Why don't you just ask your friend? If as you say, it isn't a big deal, she won't mind at all. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:16 AM Flag
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ignore these women. i don't have any friends who feel this way, or are this bitchy. i have never been to a wedding where there weren't children. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:17 AM Flag
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You should ask your friend. It's up to her and her intended. But don't be surprised if she's as confused as the rest of these bimbos about what the day is "about". [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:17 AM Flag
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Absolutely. If the bride has told other guests that they shouldn't bring their children, it may cause problems for her if you just show up with yours. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:31 AM Flag
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both of the parents who brought babies to my wedding (under 2yo) ended up leaving the room within a few minutes because the babies' crying disturbed the ceremony. my sister's wedding had babysitters to watch kids during the ceremony but kids were at the reception/party. it depends on the bride and groom - it's their wedding; their choice. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.26.08, 06:42 PM Flag
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the day is about her and should be. a lot of planning goes into many weddings and out of respect for the bride, you should leave that db at home. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:08 AM Flag
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Ew. "The day is about her"? Isn't the day about the community celebrating a new union and presumably a new fertile couple soon to reproduce? It's not a fashion show for Barbie dolls. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:11 AM Flag
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"Community celebrating a new union... new fertile couple soon to reproduce???" Are you Amish??? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:24 AM Flag
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lol [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:24 AM Flag
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I like you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:33 AM Flag
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Nope, Jewish. Don't like horses. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 06:38 PM Flag
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You can guarantee your db won't cry? I wish I could do that! I've been to plenty of wedding where dbs cry or make noise during the ceremony. Usually a bride doesn't mind if it is her relative but if it is a random baby she didn't even know was coming, she'll probably be annoyed with you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:08 AM Flag
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:57 AM Flag
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Unless baby is specifically included on the invite [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:58 AM Flag
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You absolutely need to ask. Why would you want to bring the db anyway? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:01 AM Flag
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why wouldn't I? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:02 AM Flag
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I don't know - enjoying a nice evening alone with dh with no baby to worry about for a few hours? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:03 AM Flag
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to have some fun and time for yourself? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:03 AM Flag
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only the people addressed on an invitation are allowed to attend the wedding [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:04 AM Flag
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babies have to invited for weddings???? its weird -- of course you take her. if your friend will mind, she's not much of a friend [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:04 AM Flag
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you're not serious. Many weddings are adults-only, a baby is disrupting and will prevent op from fully enjoying the wedding. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:06 AM Flag
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who are you to determine how OP will best enjoy wedding. people need to lighten the hell up. its a BABY. if the bride seriously cares, she's an a-hole. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:09 AM Flag
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oh PLEASE - it is her WEDDING - the one day of her life that a bride should be able to dictate if she wants children there or not. COME ON! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:10 AM Flag
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ITA - you are NUTS to think it's okay to bring a baby to a wedding. SO inappropriate. I think it's rude of people to even ask - if the kid isn't on the ivite, the bride (most likely) doesn't want them there! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:15 AM Flag
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seriously. These posters are crazy. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:16 AM Flag
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Would you stop it with the 'it's the bride's day' bullshit. No one owns a day. Nothing drives me crazier than women who believe the world should stop spinning on its axis because they are getting married. I mean, come on. It's a baby, not a leper. The bride isn't even going to stop by this poster's table by the time the poster with a 4-month-old leaves. It is NO SKIN of the bride's back, and you women are all so obsessed with whining about wanting it the way you want it that you are mortally offended. Christ. Its so sad. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:20 AM Flag
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sorry, but a baby crying during the ceremony would probably not be the bride's favorite thing. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:25 AM Flag
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Bride = host. That means she gets to decide who is invited. OP = guest. That means she gets to decide whether or not she will attend, and doesn't get to be offend about who the host did or didn't attend or invite additional guests on her own. It's just basic manners. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:26 AM Flag
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I cannot believe how many people lack basic etiquette - and think they should be entitled to do whatever they want. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:27 AM Flag
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i agree that the host decides who comes. but i also think that a culture where kids are not invited to weddings is a perverted, dying culture. shows why so many marriages fail and so many people are living isolated, depressed lives... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:32 AM Flag
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LOL. A typical UB "any way different than my way must be wrong" response. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:35 AM Flag
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do you disagree with the content, i.e., do you believe that amercian society is doing well? do you read the papers? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:41 AM Flag
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I am one of the responders who did not have children at my wedding- and my family is European [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:42 AM Flag
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I don't think the state of American society turns on whether or not we invite children to our weddings. Plus there has always beena segment of society that prefers more formal, child-free events (weddings or otherwise) over less formal events that include children and I'd question whether it's actually gotten larger over time. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:46 AM Flag
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The same could be said of parents who believe their children supersede anyone elses wishes. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 09:52 AM Flag
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yep [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 09:56 AM Flag
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Yes, thank you for saying that. I think that is a big problem--my precious can't be left with a sitter for a minute. My precious has every right to be a fancy wedding. Ugh. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 01:15 PM Flag
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My spouse is a pediatrician. We and all our pediatric friends always invite kids to weddings, bar mitzvahs etc. But his relatives never want kids at any of these events. It's not about any real need the child might have that could cost anything. It's a 'style' issue and those who prefer life with invisible children just do. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:08 AM Flag
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its not even about that - some weddings are adult-only for a variety of reasons - space, the location, the timing, etc. If the baby wasn't invited then the baby should not attend. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:10 AM Flag
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are you kidding right now? the space? the kid's not even 15 pounds. the location? the kid's in a baby bjorn - how messed up can it get? the timing? there's absolutely no reason that I can think of that a baby that's not taking up a meal can't come along. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:11 AM Flag
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who cares? If your child was not invited to the wedding then your child should not attend. End of discussion. Babies cry, babies are distracting. This is not your event to decide who should attend. Let it go, hire a sitter and have fun... or if you can't be away from your child for 5 hours, don't go! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:13 AM Flag
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Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 06:51 PM Flag
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Because the host of the wedding doesn't want them there, period. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:23 AM Flag
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honestly, why are people so vitriol about this? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:24 AM Flag
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vitriolic. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 01:16 PM Flag
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Why are you so dense? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 06:52 PM Flag
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ITA that the bride/groom and their families should make the decision re babies/small children or not at the wedding...some wedding ceremonies are more orchestrated by choice and others are looser - it's not up to the guests to decide how the couple want to celebrate.. [ Reply | More
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