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05.23.08, 07:07 AM General Topics
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panic attacks are overwhelming daily. BFing every 2 hrs. Dr and i don't want to use a benzo. so i'm just suffering. [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
General Topics 05.23.08, 07:07 AM Flag
 

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how old is your db? are you back at work? have more than one dc? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:09 AM Flag
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that is stupid. feed your db formula and stop suffering. db doesn't want neurotic anxious mother [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:09 AM Flag
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name calling isn't going to help her but thanks for playing [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:10 AM Flag
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uh you're welcome asswipe. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:11 AM Flag
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maybe you should adjust your meds dear. You seem a little hostile this morning. What's wrong? DH not putting out anymore? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:12 AM Flag
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what's wrong is your smug response bc I said what she is doing is stupid. not even that she was stupid but her actions were. so pull the stick out and if you can't take it don't dish it out [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:14 AM Flag
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tisk tisk. calling someone suffering from a mental issue stupid isn't very nice. I merely pointed that out. You have a lovely day now [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:15 AM Flag
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yes you too. I am sure you will bc you sound medicated up the wazoo [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:16 AM Flag
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LMAO. Never been medicated hon. No need. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:17 AM Flag
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ummmmmmmm if you say so [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:18 AM Flag
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you are funny [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:20 AM Flag
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why thank you [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:22 AM Flag
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Ah, shades of the old UB. I feel better. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:14 AM Flag
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the bitch is back baby [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:16 AM Flag
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you need to seriously consider if the bf is worth your pain- not to mention is db really benefitting of you're suffering. Talk to your ob. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:09 AM Flag
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ITA [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:11 AM Flag
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op: i know but we're both so used to the bfing. don't know how to transition. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:11 AM Flag
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it's called a bottle. use it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:12 AM Flag
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some babies will never take a bottle - are you btdt? if not, don't just say that blithely [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:14 AM Flag
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SHE DIDN'T EVEN TRY YET. SHE SAID SHE DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO TRANSITION. Most dbs will take a bottle. so lets not put the cart before the horse ok [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:15 AM Flag
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it's not going to solve her long-term problem, however [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:16 AM Flag
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how do you know? maybe she can take some meds to get through this phase and then be ok [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:17 AM Flag
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b/c she's talking about wanting to take short-term addictive drugs - which indicates she isn't serious about dealing w/ her mental problems [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:18 AM Flag
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she's having panic attacks DAILY. have you ever had one?? I doubt it or you would know why she would need and want immediate relief. some of us don't have gobs and gobs or time and money to spend in the therapists chair. maybe a short term solution is all that is needed right now [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:20 AM Flag
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yes, I actually am fully recovered from panic attacks, so I know of what I speak. I do believe it is not serving herself (or her db) to take addictive drugs right now - maybe her OB would okay 1 or 2 pills, but that should be it. There is short term CBT that could help her, it doesn't take a long time. Another poster gave great concrete tips to help that don't require meds either. Longer term therapy will most likely be needed, but if she's motivated she can cure this. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:23 AM Flag
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Tom Cruise? is that you? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:24 AM Flag
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Are you reading? I was in intensive psychotherapy for 12+ years, CBT for about 9 months, and have been on ssris and other meds for many years, but not while pregnant or ebfing. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:25 AM Flag
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op: i started CBT in 1994. still on it. still panick attacks daily [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:28 AM Flag
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would you like a referral for a better doc? what is your therapist's specialty? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:29 AM Flag
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op: you didn't have a chemical problem if you're fully recovered by making a shopping list or such. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:27 AM Flag
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I actually am - therapy as well as meds can change brain chemistry over time. It's just not the quick fix. :) I'm very grateful considering I sobbed like a homeless woman on the streets of NYC when I was having a panic attack. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:28 AM Flag
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op: i haven't taken a benzo in 3 yrs and i suffer extreme panic attacks most of every single day. and i've been in therapy for most of the last 20 yrs. and i never had the HUGE $$ for therapy either but i did it even though it hasn't made much diff to my attacks. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:23 AM Flag
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perhaps you need a better therapist (seriously, not sarcastic). Are you familiar w/ CBT and how it works for panic attacks? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:26 AM Flag
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listen. I'm not a dr and don't pretend to be like some ppl here. You've been in therapy and obviously not helping. I don't take meds so I'm not trying to push them either. But I do believe that some ppl need and benefit from meds in your situation. I think you should try it and see if it helps you. GL [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:27 AM Flag
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op:i hate to give up the bfing. really don't want to use formula but i'm not doing well [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:16 AM Flag
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don't get me started. formula is fine not poison. an unhappy mom usually = an unhappy db. so stop the martyrdom, put the formula in a bottle and take care of YOURSELF too [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:18 AM Flag
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do you have a pump? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:12 AM Flag
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yes. and i get a fair amount of BM. i read the benzo's are in the milk for a good 14+ hours though. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:13 AM Flag
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I'm sorry. I meant that you may need to wean db completly and you'll have to pump so you aren't in alot of pain while you decrease milk production. Db may take to the bottle like achamp. My ds had no prob. How old is db? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:18 AM Flag
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i had self-diagnosed ppd after dc was born. had panic attacks as well. i didn't want to use medication. i worked very hard to set up a routine that i felt comfortable with adn it helped a lot. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:12 AM Flag
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what types of things in your routine helped? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:14 AM Flag
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i had dh do most of the shopping/errands. i would only go to the store if i knew exactly what i needed. (e.g. what item, what brand, what price, etc.). i had a good routine for the day, even allowing for dc's erratic schedule. i would go for a walk and know where i was going to go. no random "help, i don't know what to do" moments if i could avoid them. i made a cleaning schedule and a menu so that i didn't have to panic. i just had to check my list. it was slow but i steadily grew out of my panic attacks. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:16 AM Flag
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these are great tips (signed another former panic attack sufferer) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:19 AM Flag
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thank you. i think there's a place for medication but i also think that it's possible to work things through without medication. especially if you are self aware. the op has to make a judgement about herself adn her situation. she knows best about how severe these are. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:28 AM Flag
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^^^also, i just saw your post from below. cut yourself some slack. your db sounds like it's still very young. you are going to be tired. it's normal to feel overwhelmed. but try to figure out what triggers your bad moments and then work to avoid them. i think that's a very healthy attitude. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:19 AM Flag
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op: oh, and i feel like it's my fault that i'm having attacks because i drank a lot of tea (caffeine) this a.m. because my insomnia made me tired. a cycle and i blame myself. like i should know to not have any tea but i was too tired to function. is it my fault? should i just give him some formula today? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:12 AM Flag
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what is your fault is that you are not treating your mental problems and instead want to pop pills [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:15 AM Flag
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op: aren't you nice? silly assumption. of course, i'm i have a therapist and was in therapy for many yrs until DB born and i don't have a sitter - yet [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:18 AM Flag
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but you never said this, so what am I to assume - you repeatedly say you want to take these pills, so I assumed you weren't willing to look at the source of the attacks (see above, I'm btdt) Not trying to be mean, just playing devil's advocate [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:24 AM Flag
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op: "want pop pills"? want to pop pills? are you 5 yrs old? you don't understand that an ill person may need a medicine? and that not all illnesses are cured by talking? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:20 AM Flag
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all the guilt is part of your ppd. You need to go to the dr tell them what's going on and let them help you. They should tell you what you need to do - ie how to decrease bf, get onto your meds and dietary moderation if necessary. Do you have help at home w/ db- I mean family support? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:16 AM Flag
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no family support at all other than dh. my mom and sister act jealous of him. they don't come see him or me. that may add to my depression. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:19 AM Flag
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have you thought about acupuncture? It can really help that sort of thing. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:09 AM Flag
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how do i find a good one? went once for my muscles and didn't help at all. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:10 AM Flag
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where are you? You could ask here for recomendations. Also it works better for some things than others. Make sure he/she is nationally certified and has been in practice for at least 8 or 10 years. GL [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:11 AM Flag
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I seem to be in the minority, but go to therapy to treat the attacks rather than medicating - bf your baby [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:13 AM Flag
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I'm with you [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:14 AM Flag
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i don't have a sitter yet. DB screams if i'm out of sight for a minute. i'm over my head. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:14 AM Flag
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where is your dh? is he helping? you can take a db to any therapist's office [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:17 AM Flag
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i thought the therapist wouldn't want a DB there and he will not make it 45 min. in the stroller sitting still. don't have insurance for therapy either. and i really want to start it again. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:22 AM Flag
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np DH and I got therapy for a while and took DD who was less than a year old. IT was fine. Now she is 3 and we couldn't! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:27 AM Flag
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heck, they don't care! a good therapist wants to help you. Little db can sleep or nurse [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:27 AM Flag
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switch to formula and take the meds you need. your baby needs a happy/healthy mom more than bm. gl! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:13 AM Flag
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benzo? what about ssri? zoloft? it worked for me. gl. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:14 AM Flag
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ssri's make my attacks much worse. i wish they helped. would be a perfect solution. so easy in comparison [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:15 AM Flag
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really? have you tried zoloft? i had a terrible reaction to prozac but zoloft changed my life. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 07:18 AM Flag
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I went hrough this annd if you are still watching this post, I will tell you my story. Will check back later or in the am. GL. I got through it (and without meds)! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 03:29 PM Flag
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Go talk with Dr. Catherine Birndorff at New York Presp. She's an expert in this stuff. 212-746-3979. She's helped me tremendously to figure out how to deal with anxiety problems and also the scoop on benzos. Some are actually much safer than others. Call her. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.23.08, 03:31 PM Flag
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