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07.04.20, 02:07 AM General Topics
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I just read the NYT article about college professors who dont want to teach in person. I dont understand. It's not like teaching kindergarten, they can maintain social distance easily. [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
General Topics 07.04.20, 02:07 AM Flag
 

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Even if they promise not to, college kids will go to parties, to bars, etc. and will most likely carrying the virus back to class. Maintaining social distancing "easily" is not a given on many campuses that already operate at full capacity in normal times. Where I teach for example, buildings are old, and something as simple as the width of some hallways is a problem. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.04.20, 02:18 AM Flag
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old HVAC systems, bathrooms, shared fridges and kitchens, in addition to doorknobs. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.04.20, 07:22 PM Flag
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Unlike kindergarteners, college students can replicate their experience online. Plus 40+ people talking in a room is unsafe. It’s all about the air, and universities are doing little to assure us profs that they are thinking about air quality in our classrooms. My own school does not have windows that you can open. And god knows what fresh air intake looks like in the HVAC. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.04.20, 02:20 AM Flag
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Grocery store workers did not revolt [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.04.20, 02:37 AM Flag
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NP. It's nice to hear you're so concerned about the working conditions of grocery store workers. I'm sure there are ways you can contribute to helping them organize, rather than using them as a weird argument that nobody else should demand safer conditions ever. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.04.20, 12:10 PM Flag
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Here you go, here's how you can sign up to support grocery workers: text "ShopSmart” to 23396 http://www.ufcw.org/coronavirus/shopsmart/ [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.04.20, 12:17 PM Flag
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Wow, you're nasty, aren't you? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.04.20, 07:08 PM Flag
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No, not at all. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.04.20, 09:18 PM Flag
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Ok, we'll start a sign up so people can support you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.05.20, 12:31 AM Flag
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What are you even talking about? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.05.20, 01:13 AM Flag
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Actually, trying to use workers as a tool to control other workers is pretty nasty. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.04.20, 11:57 PM Flag
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Thank you! I'm not a professor but I'm SO SICK of this "grocery store clerks did it" argument. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.04.20, 09:19 PM Flag
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Yep. And it's never grocery workers making it. It's privileged people who benefited from grocery workers staying at work while they stayed home, and now they want to use it as a wedge to guilt trip whatever other group they feel should RTW. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.04.20, 10:07 PM Flag
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Exactly. What they really mean is, "Grocery workers sheltered me from being inconvenienced, so now I expect you to do the same." [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.05.20, 12:09 AM Flag
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I am a college prof. Here's a deal: I will return F2F and teach the children of grocery workers, nurses, delivery drivers, restaurant workers. That would reduce the density of my classrooms down to a sensible level, and I bet family members of essential workers take the virus a hell of a lot more seriously, too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.04.20, 09:23 PM Flag
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they can't do their work online [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.05.20, 12:53 AM Flag
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It's called white priviledge. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.04.20, 01:58 PM Flag
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No hon, that ain't it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.05.20, 01:14 AM Flag
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college campuses are like cruise ships, except the major of the population, 18-23 year olds, think they aren't vulnerable and will absolutely ignore social distancing rules. Look at all the college athletes who have now tested positive. It will be like that but on a much larger scale. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.04.20, 07:20 PM Flag
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Exactly! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.04.20, 09:21 PM Flag
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Another prof here, and I wanted to go back to the classroom. I hate Zoom teaching. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.04.20, 07:23 PM Flag
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It's because college professors are generally introverts who would rather have their faces in a book in far off corner of the library anyway. Zoom fits this personality well, and why would they want to interact if they don't have to. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.04.20, 08:07 PM Flag
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It's because it's unnecessary. College students can learn online, precisely because it's not like kindergarten. Maybe labs etc are a little different, but for most lecture/seminar courses, there is no reason to return in person yet. And we should all be avoiding unnecessary contact/exposure. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.04.20, 09:21 PM Flag
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It is much like elementary and high schools, people are talking about risks from the students perspective but it is a job site as well. How to keep them safe is important. And classrooms at most universities are designed to hold twenty five and can now safely hold six to nine. If you are expected to teach one hundred students a term, it is far better to teach four online classes than ten to fifteen in person ones. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.05.20, 03:14 AM Flag
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