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06.11.20, 13:02 PM General Topics
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NY Times article about NYC admissions screens in light of Covid and BLM protests ----> [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/11/nyregion/coronavirus-nyc-schools-admissions.html [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 01:02 PM Flag
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love the C. Jama Adams comment on that piece [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 03:36 PM Flag
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I observe a lot of white UMC NYC parents want their kids to be segregated in public school from lower performing kids (the majority of whom just happen to be minority). They employ nannies who are minority and who subsist in a very different and more precarious economic level, sometimes with their own children in a home country. Meanwhile these same UMC parents post black squares on Instagram and have progressive values. The city is brutal (attaining schooling, attaining salary) but we can also be honest that individuals and not just corporations perpetuate systemic injustice through choices that can seem strictly personal. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.20, 03:11 PM Flag
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this will cause the collapse of the city. There will be a 70s style flight to the burbs again. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 01:08 PM Flag
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I dunno but reading this and knowing what many of us have gone through trying to educate our kids in this city for years, hindsight 20/20, a nice burb where you can go to the age of 17 never worrying and working toward the next year’s admission sounds like nirvana. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 01:19 PM Flag
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NP:I totally agree with this. If I could do it over, I would have headed for the burbs when my oldest was 5. The years of effort and stress over schools have not been worth staying in NYC. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 01:35 PM Flag
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So true. I often tell people that if I could turn back time I would have moved before K. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 01:45 PM Flag
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If you have navigated the middle school or high school admissions process, then you know that the system was very broken and totally maddening. It's not just racial segregation (which I agree is shameful), but all of the inequities that are built in. I'm an educated professional who is fluent in English, and I struggled. This is a chance for a complete overhaul. On the other hand, I have no faith in the Mayor or the DOE to carry that out in a fair and thoughtful way. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 01:25 PM Flag
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General Topics 06.11.20, 01:31 PM Flag
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General Topics 06.11.20, 01:46 PM Flag
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General Topics 06.11.20, 02:57 PM Flag
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General Topics 06.11.20, 06:14 PM Flag
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General Topics 06.11.20, 10:11 PM Flag
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i dont disagree, but BDB and Carranza will only screw it up and dilute the elite public HS causing the middle class to leave the city. Our dcs are set for now BUT if budgets suffer I would pull and send them to private school or leave NYC [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 01:32 PM Flag
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Agree. My struggle that I can't answer is what makes a school "good"? Is it the high achieving cohort that attends? My kids in v. selective schools certainly have had their share of terrible teachers, and the kids basically tech themselves the work. Is it the teachers- selective schools certainly have their pick of quality teachers wanting to tech there. I agree the system is broken, but I also think ny high school, it's too late for so many kids who missed out on better education earlier on. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 01:38 PM Flag
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I think that’s a good point. There are so many differing opinions of what makes a good school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 01:49 PM Flag
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And that is the question isn't it? What makes a school "good"? Some very very low performing schools receive a ton of $ (Renewal), so its not money. Is it the teachers - maybe- but its a lot easier to teach a room of kids who are on or above grade level, focused, well fed, read to ad home, etc. Is it the kids/parents - maybe - if mom and dad have books in the house and read to the child daily, the kid hears high level of vocab since birth, etc. Alina Adams writes a lot about this. http://newyorkschooltalk.org/2020/06/an-inconvenient-truth-the-nyc-schools-math-problem-nobody-talks-about/ [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 02:00 PM Flag
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Thanks [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 02:13 PM Flag
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No, most people think a good schools is a school with kids of educated parents. That is it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 02:19 PM Flag
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I know many people think this, but having had kids at schools with a cross section of demographics, I disagree. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 03:06 PM Flag
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i attended schools with some cross-section of demographics from K onwards. In the beginning, the school was largely but not exclusively white working/middle class. After third grade, I attended schools with ratios of 30-50% URM. The 4-6 and 10-12 schools were mainly working and middle class - high school had the most middle class African Americans of all the schools I attended. The middle school was more divided by class with a large concentration of affluent whites. Think this reflects the times, but most working class white kids @ my high school did not aspire to attend college, but assumed they would work in one of the good-paying manufacturing jobs in the area (sadly that evaporated 2-3 years after we graduated). Greater percentage of working and middle African American students aiming for college - may also be related that there were more African American teachers encouraging them to do so, while many white teachers were content with the scene. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.20, 02:41 PM Flag
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Meh, I disagree. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 05:25 PM Flag
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You disagree that most people think that. If so, you are incorrect. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 08:57 PM Flag
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LOL! I'm sorry where is all of your research or is it your little group of friends? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.20, 03:36 AM Flag
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I love this question and struggle with it. Having had kids in both unscreened schools and selective schools, parent engagement can carry a school through a crisis of leadership (and that's a real advantage over a school without highly engaged, resourced parents because all DOE schools have crises!), but over the long haul (1) real leadership from a strong principal, (2) teachers who have time and ability to work together and be thoughtful about educational progress across grades, (3) a plan for differentiation, (4) not too high a concentration of high needs and "too high" can vary based on factors out of the control of the school itself. But in my NYC experience, 40-70% "high needs" can work, depending on a bunch of factors. My son is at a school with 75% of families qualifying for free and reduced lunch, but it is screened so that changes everything. There are more, but I think those are foundational. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 03:05 PM Flag
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Whatever one's opinion on screen may be, there is no discussion at all on addressing the poor quality of the education the bulk of the schools claim to provide. Moving bodies around won't change the fact that more than 50% of NYC children are below grade level for ELA/Math. What will be done differently to education children? Nothing. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 01:57 PM Flag
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If schools were diverse, resources could go to poor kids or kids who have had trauma. Now, there are schools with tons of need and schools with little. My kids go to a public that was doing very well. The doe decided to transfer every kid with issues into one school and now the school is "bad." The doe does not offer extra resources for these kids that have a ton of need. If the kids were spread throughout the district it would have been so much better. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 02:22 PM Flag
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Fair Student Funding Formula. Needy schools get more money. Renewal poured in a billion and while there were non academic benefits, there was no improvement academically. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 02:48 PM Flag
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PP: In NYC all schools are funded centrally by the DOE. This is not like the suburbs. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 02:49 PM Flag
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NP: Spreading around PTA money has to be a part of the solution. Schools are centrally funded by the DOE, but "good" schools have an extra revenue stream from their wealthy parent PTAs, which sets them apart. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 03:38 PM Flag
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Even with PTA money, schools serving more high needs students almost always get much more funding per student (both FSF + Title 1) than the schools serving wealthy parent bodies with the big PTA $$. In my experience, the hardest hit schools are those that are diverse, serving 40-60% families who qualify for free and reduced lunch -- so no Title 1 funds in NYC (except Staten Island apparently) but don't really have the parent wealth to raise big $$ to replace the loss of $300K (about what schools of decent size would have received in Title 1 funds), and then many of those schools also have higher performing students -- and FSF directs more money to lower performing students, so schools that have success with their students' performance are rewarded with less money. I get the motivtion behind the funding formula, but it can have perverse results in these situations. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 03:43 PM Flag
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My kids school has a tiny PTA budget (many low income families) and is top performing in the state. They don't have the extras like 2nd teachers or all that other stuff, but the education is top notch. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 04:55 PM Flag
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What is working at your school? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 05:27 PM Flag
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its a screened school, kids are all high achievers. teachers are free to teach to highest levels, parents demand accountability. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 07:00 PM Flag
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Screen schools should never count as “good schools” [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 09:00 PM Flag
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when 100% of the kids are proficient in ELA/MATH and 90% get 4s, yeah its a good school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.20, 01:31 AM Flag
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Not true. If you have lots of kids in poverty, you need more money than schools with kids that do not have the trauma associated with poverty. Title 1 is nothing compared to what PTAs raise. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 08:59 PM Flag
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but this is just to say, most kids in a lottery won't get any of their ranked 12. the numbers dont work [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.20, 01:30 AM Flag
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hyperbole much? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 05:20 PM Flag
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And the responses here will show that most UMC people do not want to integrate the schools because they would rather keep to themselves, minorities be dammed; there needs to be a total overhaul, schools should be open to all children, you all want to move to the suburbs, don’t let the door hit you on the way out, you will be perpetuating segregation in your own way. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 01:40 PM Flag
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i will admit it - i do not. I do not need children that need a ton for support or are disruptive in my dcs class. I do not want to worry about violence in the MS/HS for my older dc. They need to fix the elementary schools instead of going straight to changing the elite HS [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 01:45 PM Flag
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See this is a blatantly racist comment. Yes you are racist. You are automatically equating all kids of color as trouble makers and stupid. Shame on you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 01:58 PM Flag
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+845,000,000 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 02:07 PM Flag
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She didn't mention colour. White can be violent as well [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.20, 07:16 AM Flag
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I agree with this. They need to keep the elite schools, but also improve struggling schools. By removing the elite schools, you don’t do anything but dumb down the entire population by focusing only on slower learners. It’s not about race or minorities. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 04:13 PM Flag
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Redistricting and sending some wealthier students to struggling schools, where the parents can get more involved and raise more as a PTA and then make the school stronger, would make a big difference, but parents are in uproar every time they mention even considering that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 04:32 PM Flag
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so you send 10% MC/UMC parents to a low income school - who is it they will fund raise from? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 07:01 PM Flag
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Exactly!! And in reality, those families would just leave the system. The weight of the entire school would be on a few families’ shoulders? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 07:52 PM Flag
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yeah, go ahead - not my kids thank you very much [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 07:01 PM Flag
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I’m a wealthy non white with kids in a public because I prefer public over private and I contribute heavily to PTA. I’ll pull my kids out of Nyc public the minute they are “sent” to a struggling school because 1. I want decent education for my kids and 2. I don’t want any unnecessary commute. If I were a mc non white who cannot afford private school, I’ll stop donating to PTA and use that money for tutoring/enrichment outside the school. It baffles me that you are surprised that those wealthy/umm/mc parents are in uproar. Have you even thought your plan through? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 10:16 PM Flag
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ITA so sick of smug White people who are proud of sending their kids to public schools when they really only want segregated public schools. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 01:46 PM Flag
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No one wants segregated schools, stop with stirring the pot. We want high-performing, challenging schools, minorities or not it does not matter. The problem is the city and DOE doesn't know how to fix education on elementary level, so that by the time kids apply for MS, some of them have not fallen behind. It also is very hard to desegregate ES because the city itself is segregated and that is because of RE prices mostly. If we had stronger ES, those students would make the MS and HS stronger, and they won't be fighting for the few limited SHS. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 03:28 PM Flag
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THIS. They need to fix the schools starting with kindergarten on up. Don't dismantle the SHS, fix the elementary schools so all kids can learn. Bottom line. And the current elementary G&T screening needs to go. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 06:21 PM Flag
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You want segregation. The mental gymnastics you have to do to justify your beliefs is ridiculous. Just admit it to yourself. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 09:03 PM Flag
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Troll somewhere else. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 10:12 PM Flag
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Exactly. That's what I've been saying for days, fix the system starting at K and elementary. Bottom-up approach. Not patching the middle. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.20, 04:26 AM Flag
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This is simply not true. I would love for schools to be integrated and my DS goes to Beacon, which is one of the most integrated schools in the city. No one wants to look at the real problems, which are complex and hard to solve. The inequities start in K. In poorer neighborhoods, families have multiple stressors that often prevent parents from advocating for better schools and meeting their families needs. The schools in the Bronx are all terrible. ok So intergrate earlier. But many parents don't want their K child going from walking to school to taking a bus or traveling. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 01:50 PM Flag
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Beacon is NOT one of the most integrated schools in the city. There are websites that track this, and make it clear that Beacon is not a good actor on this front. Beacon is, in my mind, worse than the SHSAT schools because it is disproportionately white and wealthy, while SHSAT schools are disproportionate Asian and either not at all or just a little disproportionately wealthy (compared to the city as a while). Beacon's PTA fundraising pretty much dwarfs every public high school in NYC, even much bigger schools. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 03:10 PM Flag
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How can you say Beacon is one of the most integrated schools in the city? Beacon is nearly half white even though white students make up about 15% of overall DOE enrollment. Beacon may be more diverse than most NYC high schools but it is certainly not equitable. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 04:05 PM Flag
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My dd and her friends visited elementary schools with AA kids to try to get more diversity at Beacon. They helped kids with their essays and picked the essays up and brought them in. Not one kid got in. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 09:05 PM Flag
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wasn't Beacon a group interview with select current students at one point? though i believe that dropped. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.20, 01:32 AM Flag
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Beacon is also very low on lunch-free kids, in stark contrast to most schools in the city. And don't even start me on D2 schools that are only open to D2 students, which is appalling. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.20, 02:20 PM Flag
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LOL [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 05:23 PM Flag
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beacon is one of the whitest schools in the city. cmon. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.20, 01:34 AM Flag
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Beacon has one of the worst reps for being selective and allowing preferences with wealthier alum. Their admission process is murky at best [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.20, 02:58 AM Flag
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AGREED - I teach in the Consortium BTW - Beacon is the school that every single school administrator weasels their kids into who can't do well on the SHSAT - Deblasio's daughter went there - my former principal's kid went there. It's much like the Center School - miraculously every single celebrity's kid who lived in District 3 got in there - hmmmmm - Beacon needs to shut up and sit down. East Side Community School is one we should emulate. Google that one people! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.20, 03:44 PM Flag
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I don't think this is fair. Most UMC people (of all races) want high quality, safe schools for their kids, and less privileged parents want the same thing. The difference is that only UMC parents can navigate the tortured, dysfunctional NYC system to get their kids into those schools. The problem is the shitty NYC schools, not the families trying to work within this broken system. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 01:53 PM Flag
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This! Charters are full of minority families who are trying to find something better for their kids than the local, failing school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 03:29 PM Flag
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Agree, and why I support charter schools even though I think they way they operate in NYC -- with separate admission systems and crowding out traditional publics in buildings -- is a real problem. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 03:50 PM Flag
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ITA. And being able to cherry pick. They should be forced to educate anyone who applies and not counsel out. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 04:12 PM Flag
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+1 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 05:28 PM Flag
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I feel very frustrated because I feel like the city is responsible for their terrible job integrating housing and now their solution is to destroy the few functioning schools. I would love to see G&T in every school, the citywide system dismantled, all kids given g&t placement tests in school on an opt-out basis. I want the top percentage of elementary students from each school (don't know the number, probable too 5%) to be guaranteed admission to the MS of their choice. I want high schools to be bigger so that there is less administrator budget and more high level course options. I want all placement and admissions to occur during the school day and to be opt out. I do not want the system to be lottery. I have a 7th grader and have spent hours pouring over the high school options. There are over 1000 high schools and maybe 50 of them are acceptable for someone planning on attending a selective university. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 02:02 PM Flag
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So basically go back to the model around in the 1980's? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 02:07 PM Flag
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I don't know that well enough to compare. I just look at the "good" schools and think about ways to get that structure into more places. You attract or retain highly qualified students through rigorous classes and well-funded "extras" like libraries and bands and science labs. When I think about moving to the suburbs for school it is solely for advanced classes. My kids will not attend a high school that does not offer either AP or I course and no one should have to attend a school that can't offer those programs. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 02:16 PM Flag
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*IB [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 02:17 PM Flag
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What should a good education (or at least educational choice) be allocated first to the most successful students? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 03:11 PM Flag
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I think that all schools should offer these classes. If that means larger schools that offer opportunity to move up, so be it. But putting a kid who is going to fail AP Chem into an honors program and putting a kid who loves advanced science in a school with no labs doesn't make any sense. All schools track and they should because not all people are equally smart or driven. The DOE should focus on fixing and funding elementary schools so that minority students aren't so far behind. The city is failing and rather than change their structure or teaching methods they are simply removing any way to gauge progress. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 03:57 PM Flag
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I agree that AP and IB course are VERY important to college bound kids. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 03:19 PM Flag
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+1 -- and honestly, even many smaller, strong NYC public schools have limited offerings in these areas. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 03:22 PM Flag
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agree. It's very frustrating. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 05:24 PM Flag
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But without a strong PTA, which many struggling schools don't have, they can't afford to fund those things. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 04:34 PM Flag
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Which is a problem. It should not depend on the PTAs to fund. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 05:27 PM Flag
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PTAs dont fund classes and teachers (aides are different). that has to come from school budget. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 08:27 PM Flag
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Correct, but what happens is that a PTA gives the principal a chunk a money and he uses that for other budget items which frees up his money to spend on teachers. That is what every school we have been at does. My kids NYC public elementary PTA was taking in 1 million a year by the time my kids moved on to middle school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 09:53 PM Flag
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My kids schools have tiny PTA budgets (less than 25/30K) relative to the #s being thrown around here. All good schools. Parents on top of the kids. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.20, 01:34 AM Flag
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Oh, I'm not trying to say that schools can't do great things with small PTA budgets. I was explaining to another poster how schools can get certain classes and teachers in a round about way. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.20, 03:38 AM Flag
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the problem is way bigger than AP classes. There are kids with behavior problems that destroy the learning environment for the other kids. Our ES public is generally good, but a couple of unruly kids have made school really difficult. Its the nature of a public school that doesnt screen. I went to private, and if anyone was a problem, they were counseled out. So a screened public is not just about the academic ability. Its for kids that know how to behave in a classroom. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 08:32 PM Flag
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some of the really great college prep high schools here in west coast are opting out of AP classes while offering some course above AP level. APs might not be a good indicator for the overall quality. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.20, 04:30 AM Flag
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I’m an UMC minority. I can assure you that most UMC people don’t care if their school is 60% minority, but they will not send their kids to a school that is 60% free lunch and non selective. It’s not a race thing. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 10:23 PM Flag
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I'm the OR, UMC and I don't care about race % or free lunch %. I care about SAT scores, state test scores and availability of advanced classes. In fact, I consider a school with high scores and high % of free lunch to be better than a school with high scores and few free lunch students. That's why I prefer SHS to Beacon or Clinton. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.20, 01:08 PM Flag
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But it is a race thing when non-selective and free lunch correlates so closely with race. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.20, 03:17 PM Flag
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Did anyone notice that the author went to public and private schools? I don't need to hear from someone who is a privileged private schooler shaming public school parents of today. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 03:09 PM Flag
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THIS!!!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 04:15 PM Flag
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she does not have children either. no skin in the game whatsoever [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 05:57 PM Flag
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she once tweeted since tried to get into an SHS, took the SHSAT but missed the cut off [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.20, 01:38 AM Flag
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NYC does not prioritize education, it's not reasonable to expect that they will. If education is priority for you, you have to pay up for private or move. This is not going to change. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 03:45 PM Flag
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I hope that's not true. So depressing. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 05:28 PM Flag
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It'll be like California, where public schools are, for the most part, horrible. Sadly, most families that I know of (San Fran and LA) parents send kids to private. I'm afraid NYC is heading that direction, if not already. There will be no real equality in education until we address fundamental issues in housing, income/wealth gap, healthcare, etc. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 05:42 PM Flag
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Agree [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 05:52 PM Flag
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thats were it was in the 80s and 90s. The last 20 years it changed but we might be headed back to private school or burbs. The problem is privates are SO expensive now. In the 80s upper middle class folks could still afford private [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 07:02 PM Flag
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this. i grew up UMC, and only went to private because apts were so cheap in the 1970s. You could live on a single professional income in prime UWS, UES. My friends parents werent investment bankers. An eye Dr, and a stay at home mom, but could afford an apt on Mad ave and a TT school for 2. That was typical. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 08:35 PM Flag
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now, you'd struggle to live in Windsor terrace in 1000 sq ft on that salary, so forget private [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 08:36 PM Flag
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Yup. Same here. Dr. and sahm. 2 kids to private in 80s [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.20, 03:32 AM Flag
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Look at San Fran after Carranza was done with it - no algebra in MS. Disaster. https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2018/01/02/naacp-san-francisco-schools-black-students/ [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 07:05 PM Flag
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yes, in SF bay area and sent DC to private K-12. although, we have many friends with kids happily going to public schools. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.20, 04:33 AM Flag
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It seems the NYC DOE's mission is not education but social services. So much talk about diversity and keeping schools running so parents can work. The need for academic rigor and health of students is obviously not a priority. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 07:18 PM Flag
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Agree. It comes off as racist to want rigorous public school education. I would gladly send my children to private if we could afford it here on the east coast. NYC privates are so expensive compared to California privates. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 07:33 PM Flag
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+1 advocating for a merit-based system suddenly became racist. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.20, 04:34 AM Flag
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read the comments on the authors twitter (Eliza Shapiro). Lots of criticism since she completely mischaracterized the Zoom meeting with Queens parents who are vehemently opposed to removing screens. People claiming that her reporting is more op-ed than the reporting of facts. I completely agree with that. Her articles are always biased towards her agenda. She wrote the article about how rich white families who pay $200 for a "school tips" newsletter were warned that the lines for the Beacon tour were long, so to come early. Meanwhile, you could be last on line and still tour the school, and touring gives you ZERO benefit in the admission process. But her article was based on this HUGE ADVANTAGE for people who could afford the newsletter. She does this with every education article and its awful reporting. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 10:20 PM Flag
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General Topics 06.12.20, 07:19 AM Flag
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This author is the worst it’s always the same thing with her - so biased [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.12.20, 02:30 AM Flag
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