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06.11.20, 00:30 AM General Topics
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NYC moms who have done a major apartment or townhouse renovation- what was your architects fee and total project cost? We were just quoted $95,000 architects fee with no quote for construction and materials cost no idea if this is unreasonable, normal, or a great deal. [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
General Topics 06.11.20, 12:30 AM Flag
 

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How big is project? Are you only doing 1 bath or much Ltd? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 12:47 AM Flag
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renovating two floors of a small (2500 square foot) townhouse and adding an elevator that will be in the back courtyard and add additional square footage to the house. Elevator will go from ground floor to roof (4 stories) we are adding a full bath that will abut an exciting powder room but we are not majorly renovating the kitchen. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 12:49 AM Flag
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this is a big renovation especially with the elevator and adding SF, and BTW, 2500sf isn't small. If the TH isn't in pristine shape, there could be a lot of unknowns that will need to be addressed (ie, plumbing and electrical). You should get other quotes from other architects to compare. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 01:01 AM Flag
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Thank you!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 01:51 AM Flag
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It sounds like the majority of the work is permit filings for footprint expansion, elevator, new plumbing. Some structural filing may be involved for that elevator. A good portion of the fee is going towards that pushing that paperwork. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 03:22 AM Flag
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Architects usually quote as a percentage of the total project cost. Is that what you got? Unless the Architect is also going to do the "build" part of the project, there they really can't get you a total project cost, since they aren't building the project. Only the contractor can get you that number (which includes the material and labor costs). It sounds like you might need a project manager, or learn to communicate really clearly with the parties involved with your project since it's a hard process. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 12:52 AM Flag
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I'm guessing the 95K is the estimate for how much they think the project will be total. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 12:54 AM Flag
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It’s definitely just his fee! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 01:51 AM Flag
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ours was 18% of the project total cost I believe [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 12:55 AM Flag
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If that’s correct, $500k seems fair for the total scope of work [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 01:52 AM Flag
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We had a gut renovation for an apt that’s around 2000 sq ft and was charged a flat fee that’s about 10% of your fee. It was not a percentage of our project cost. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 01:10 AM Flag
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Did you have anything structural though? We are adding an elevator so they’ll need to dig into the ground etc. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 01:52 AM Flag
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No structural changes. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 02:05 AM Flag
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Architect is giving you his fee estimate. It is usually based on cost per sq foot, lump sum ( to be worth his time ) or percentage of construction costs, a variable between 10-20% depending on the architect’s reputation or construction costs. The smaller the project, the higher the percentage. You need to be clear of the services he is providing, go to the AIA website and read the Owner Architect contract . [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 01:17 AM Flag
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Thank you!! Is this a small or large project? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 01:54 AM Flag
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Will the architect also be your owners rep? Get a few quotes and also speak directly to their references. We’ve done a full brownstone restoration and a lot can go wrong. Make sure you want to spend the next year with this person [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 01:34 AM Flag
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They will be our owners rep as well! He is pretty well reputed. Not like Seldorf or Gehry but probably 1.5 steps down. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 01:54 AM Flag
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Sounds like you are doing a relatively simple job and a decent architect could probably do it cheaper. Maybe 1.5 steps down from Gehry isn't enough if you are just doing basic renovations. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 03:08 AM Flag
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Agree [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 03:50 AM Flag
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Gehry is like international star-chiect and would not take a job like this. Seldorf maybe. If you are going this high end, then you are paying for detailed and coordinated design. I’m sure it will be beautiful. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 03:50 AM Flag
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We did a major reno in Brooklyn, combining 2 apartments. We did some of the legwork ourselves to reduce costs but reno was still between $350K and $375K. Architect's fee was 20% of contractor's bid. Architect was def worth it for our work -- helped us think through dif designs, navigate issues with contractor. Added real costs but worth it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 06:04 PM Flag
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