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06.09.20, 01:00 AM General Topics
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the editor of bon appetit was just fired. [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
General Topics 06.09.20, 01:00 AM Flag
 

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"Resigned" technically, but yeah, I'm sure it was strongly encouraged [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 01:03 AM Flag
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He resigned but yeah, probably not what he was hoping for. But really, poor judgment from him in so many areas. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 01:03 AM Flag
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But didn't he also do a lot to broaden the scope/reach/euro-centredness of the publication? I am terribly disturbed by what I see as online execution of progressive individuals and progressive companies that have been doing this work for years (see: the Bennet, recently fired editor at New York Times). Activists see that the companies are trying to respond and "do the right thing" so they make aggressive demands, often at the expense of the people who've actually led the efforts to do better. Meanwhile- most companies in america make no effort, and some are really, really egregiously huge and bigoted- Hobby Lobby, Fox News, Chic-fil-A, every meat processor, Abercrombie and Fitch, General Electric, Walmart, Amazon- and activists don't bother with them. It may not work out well in the long run. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 04:38 PM Flag
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Except activists do protest all of those businesses. And it wasn't activist that called for Rapo's resignation, it was his own employees. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 05:43 PM Flag
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and the businesses let them gain no traction. Unfortunately, when we look at the costs of the self interested form of bullying activism against progressive companies, the business lesson will be that a Jeff Bezos approach (you have demands? NO) is better for business. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 10:09 PM Flag
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yup [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.11.20, 01:29 AM Flag
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There are also social media activists (such as pod casters) who are using this form of activism (mobilizing huge attacks on progressive companies) to advance their own (paltry) careers by casting themselves as victims of oppression. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 10:07 PM Flag
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What for? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 01:13 AM Flag
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an instagram photo of him in brownface years back surfaced (a puerto rican freelancer called him out on it) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 01:15 AM Flag
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racism. His wife had a photo of them in brown face for halloween. He repeatedly had white writers cover "new food trends" that are staples from other countries. He supposedly paid white and non white writers differently. All kinds of bad. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 01:16 AM Flag
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NP: Funny (or, rather not so funny) thing is, it took the photo for people to be outraged, but the latter two examples are are so much more common and widespread. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 01:20 AM Flag
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latter photo is irrefutable proof. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 01:38 AM Flag
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Oh, no doubt. And he should definitely be called out for it. My point is that the systemic racism is so much more prevalent (and arguably more dangerous/damaging) than the overt instances, but it constantly slips under the radar. Hopefully orgs really do become more accountable now, like they say they will. Not everyone has a brownface photo to expose their biases. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 01:42 AM Flag
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ITA - The more severe wrongdoing here is not the brownface, though that is terrible, it's the huge pay inequality for POC. It's unfortunate it took the photo to get any attention. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 02:40 PM Flag
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OR: we seem to be in agreement. unfortunately it's hard to prove many things. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 11:23 PM Flag
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exactly, people have been complaining for years. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 02:23 AM Flag
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so bad [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 02:10 AM Flag
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I don't particularly know why this is "brown face". I can't tell that he painted his face brown ? It looks like they are dressed as gang member types. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 09:12 PM Flag
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but they claimed they were being "puerto rican." if you think all puerto ricans are scary gang types there's a problem. and dressing up as a racial or ethnic stereotype is generally uncool. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 09:23 PM Flag
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Kind of insulting to Puerto Ricans to say that what they were wearing is an "ethnic stereotype". I don't know any Puerto Ricans who dress this way. They look like gang members. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 10:13 PM Flag
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the people wearing the costumes said they were dressing as puerto ricans. this is how they believe puerto ricans look. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 10:18 PM Flag
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They're not dressed as "gang members" - the caption on the photo literally says "boricua" [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 10:24 PM Flag
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"gang member types" [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 09:35 PM Flag
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He looks like a d******* [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 05:09 PM Flag
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One of the writers is in trouble as well for dressing as a chola for Halloween. She is claiming Amy Winehouse but the fake gang tattoo on her chest is going to be problematic. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 01:25 AM Flag
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Not surprisingly, the same woman who just a few weeks ago publicly blasted Chrissy Teigen and Marie Kondo [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 01:40 AM Flag
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Are you kidding me??? The same lady! Oh GAWD!!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 02:07 AM Flag
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Yes same person Alison Roman, though she has not worked for bon appetit for a while. She is a nyt writer [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 02:16 AM Flag
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she got fired from NYT [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 01:01 PM Flag
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nope, she's just on temporary leave [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 02:26 PM Flag
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She might want to consider making it permanent. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 06:11 PM Flag
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Fingers crossed! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 06:47 PM Flag
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it's so much worse to lie about it, it's so obviously not Amy. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 02:25 AM Flag
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Looks just liek Amy to me. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 09:03 PM Flag
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Amy didn't wear hoops nor have chest tattoo -- that is chula [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.10.20, 03:17 AM Flag
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I would love if Ruth Reichel would take over. I miss her (and Gourmet). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 02:07 AM Flag
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I like her but it would not look good if they replaced one older white person with another older white person. The optics are important here. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 02:17 AM Flag
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I know you are right but it’s too bad bc she is so fantastic and would do a great job. I follow her on Instagram And her posts are sparse and mundane. I’ve read all of her books and they were fun, creative and witty and I instantly fell for her. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 01:38 PM Flag
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This is unfortunate. As a POC, it should be about who's capable, too. Isn't then reverse discrimination? She can't help that she's a white capable woman. I'd bring her back. She's highly regarded. Frankly, I don't think she wants to come back. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 06:10 PM Flag
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pp: To be clear, I do agree with you and would welcome her back. I always preferred Gourmet over BA when both were around. Was just pointing out why it is very unlikely to happen. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 06:23 PM Flag
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older people are more discriminated against than younger people. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 08:15 PM Flag
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absolutely agree. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.10.20, 01:14 AM Flag
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Me too! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 07:35 PM Flag
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Full explanation: https://variety.com/2020/digital/news/bon-appetit-pays-only-white-editors-videos-adam-rapoport-brown-face-1234628027/ [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 02:19 AM Flag
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such an arrogant guy. Terrible racism there and I'm happy to see this. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 02:22 AM Flag
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And the beauty editor of The Cut, Jane Larkworthy responsed to his post back then with, “This was so dead on, I was so afraid of you two that night!!!!”. I would argue this comment is every bit as racist and offensive as his costume. But there's no statement from The Cut, and she still has her job. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 01:59 PM Flag
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Oh wow, the beauty industry is another industry that needs to start making serious changes, like yesterday. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 02:42 PM Flag
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x10000 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 07:34 PM Flag
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That definitely is as bad if not even worse. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 09:04 PM Flag
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really terrible [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.10.20, 03:18 AM Flag
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this should be brought to light also. how horrible. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 11:24 PM Flag
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Oh, get over yourself. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.10.20, 01:15 AM Flag
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Who exactly is full of themselves in this conversation? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.10.20, 02:58 PM Flag
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So bad. I happen to know her and was surprised when I heard this. She obviously issued a huge apology. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.10.20, 03:01 AM Flag
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Can you link? All I see is a 3 sentence apology on twitter directed to the person who found the photo. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.10.20, 02:55 PM Flag
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Alex Delany - come on dooooown! You're the next contestant on Racist Photos Unearthed by Twitter: https://twitter.com/tammieetc/status/1270411296446525441 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 05:56 PM Flag
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OMG! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 09:06 PM Flag
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This happened 16 years ago! It was in poor taste, but why are these very old pictures cause for someone to be fired? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 09:14 PM Flag
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because they were coupled with systematically underpaying BIPOC, kind of racist coverage, and long term dismissal of concerns raised by BIPOC staff. among other things [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 09:17 PM Flag
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This. He also wasn't fired - he resigned. I'm sure Roger Lynch is just going to move him to a different publication. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 09:33 PM Flag
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Does anyone bother to read the thread before posting anymore? It wasn't just the picture. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.20, 09:22 PM Flag
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The picture is definitely enough. But just the tip of the iceberg. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.10.20, 03:04 AM Flag
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np -- his wife reposted them only 5 years ago with racist hashtags. It's the tip of the iceberg on top of everything else he recently did. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.10.20, 03:20 AM Flag
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I urge anyone interested in this story to check out both the BuzzfeedNews interview with Sohla & Business Insider's interview with Ryan Walker-Hartshorn who is AR's assistant and the only Black person on staff at BA. BI has a paywall but it's worth the $1 trial. I can also repost it in chunks if anyone would like. Will link below. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.10.20, 03:30 PM Flag
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https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/skbaer/bon-appetit-adam-rapoport-brown-face-racism [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.10.20, 03:30 PM Flag
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https://www.businessinsider.com/bon-appetit-adam-rapoport-toxic-racism-culture-2020-6 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.10.20, 03:30 PM Flag
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