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06.03.20, 02:14 AM General Topics
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anyone else think that the teachers unions have zero incentive to support opening schools in september? it’s easier and safer for them to stay home and they will get a salary anyway. i think this is going to be the biggest barrier to opening schools in september. and before you criticize i’m a doctor who assumes some degree of risk going to work everyday cause i know we have to start seeing patients again or we’ll go bankrupt. [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
General Topics 06.03.20, 02:14 AM Flag
 

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But if people start withdrawing kids from NYC schools, how long before lay offs start? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 02:19 AM Flag
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no effect [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 02:21 AM Flag
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a friend's dh is a teacher in the uk and went to a meeting where teachers were up in arms about reopening (granted much earlier than here) and said he wanted to chime in and say 'look guys, we have to reopen the economy, we can't never go back into a classroom until this goes away' but felt intimidated by the noise to speak up. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 02:25 AM Flag
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As a NYC DOE teacher, I find this incredibly offensive. I would love nothing more then to go back to my classroom and school. I also want to keep my 4 kids at home safe, as well as my elderly parents. Don’t think teachers are screaming to keep schools closed - we are not. We just want safety measures in place. I don’t think that is a lot to ask. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 02:33 AM Flag
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it's more that we all feel that way but most of us don't have the power that you do over the economy and our livelihoods to make demands as to what that looks like. so maybe hold fire on being 'incredibly offended'. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 02:46 AM Flag
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I don't teach but curious--how many children do you work with? Are they good about handwashing, covering their faces? Do they pick their noses? And then do they touch everything? How many times have they sneezed in your face? Cried on you? Think harder about the differences between your job and the jobs many teachers have to do. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 02:56 AM Flag
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it's not worse. sorry. between the subway and the crowding of NYC and the fact that many are required to work in crowded unsanitary conditions for their job - you don't get the monopoly on it. you just have a union. i support your right to have an union 100%. but you don't get to pretend you're the only ones who face risk. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:03 AM Flag
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Absolutely this! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:09 AM Flag
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ummmmm... pretty sure I didn’t claim we are the only ones who face risk. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:38 AM Flag
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You didn't. This poster is angry and lashing out all over the thread with what-about-isms. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:58 AM Flag
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This [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 11:26 AM Flag
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28 kids in my class, all between the ages of 7-8. They are snotty, butt picking, spitting, snorting, coughing kids and I miss every single one of them. Bodily fluids are exchanged all day everyday, and that is part of the job. You can’t escape it. My classroom is 200 square feet max. you can do the math. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:13 AM Flag
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I 100% get it. leading up to march closures I shared an office for 5 people with - no joke - 15 people because our firm could not afford to expand. One guy got RSV and then we ALL got RSV. I then gave RSV to my small children. NYC is tough all over. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:29 AM Flag
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and to be clear when I say office I mean meeting room within a larger floor. a meeting room for 5 people was an office for 15. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:29 AM Flag
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Thank you for what you do every day. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:50 AM Flag
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Not sure what you are talking about - as a 2nd grade teacher in the The Bronx, I do not feel I “have the power over you do over the economy”. WTF are you talking about?? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:07 AM Flag
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you have a union that will represent your interests. Most of us do not. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:30 AM Flag
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Clearly you don’t get it. The union is useless. I pay over $120 a month and get nothing. It’s useless [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:42 AM Flag
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if the teachers union is useless that is a different problem, and one for which you have my sympathies. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:49 AM Flag
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Really? Generous health care, pensions, impossible to fire even bad teachers - you call that useless? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 02:17 PM Flag
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And you made a choice to enter a profession that isn't unionized. Many (not all, I realise) of these professions are much more highly paid than unionized workforces. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:56 AM Flag
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And you chose to be in a profession that is essential, so you have to do it. I am not essential and that's why I was quickly discarded, have no protections at all. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 02:18 PM Flag
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Teachers are not asking not to teach. FFS. They are still teaching, and they want to go back and teach live in the fall WITH SAFETY MEASURES IN PLACE which the DOE won't commit to. Your anger is so misguided here. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 09:23 PM Flag
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You make zero sense. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:08 AM Flag
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I know teachers who think otherwise [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 11:25 AM Flag
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Thank you, thank you, thank you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:55 PM Flag
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My best friend teaches 5th grade in Queens and is still recovering from the virus after being diagnosed about 35 days ago. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 02:42 AM Flag
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And MTA workers or supermarket employees have not gotten sick? Do they have more protections? Teachers are essential employees and have to go back to work in the fall. They have been given generous benefits for years exactly because they are this important. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 02:46 AM Flag
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MTA and supermarkets have done what they can to protect workers and promote social distancing (eg. screens, floor markers, closing off seating). All teachers unions are asking for is the equivalent measures in a school setting. The problem is that DOE is dragging their feet on doing it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:54 AM Flag
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If your cashier gets sick there's another one to replace her. But if your teacher gets sick it's a big deal. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 05:19 AM Flag
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We've never been short of subs. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 01:55 PM Flag
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You want a sub teaching your kid? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 04:12 PM Flag
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For the time a teacher will be out, I'll be fine with it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 04:31 PM Flag
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Where did she get the virus since the school closed more than 70 days ago. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 12:25 PM Flag
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Is she was diagnosed 35 days ago she didn’t get it from School. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 12:25 PM Flag
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I think her point may have been that it is a very dangerous virus that no one wants to get. Who knows how one will be affected. It could be mild for you or life threatening. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 12:48 PM Flag
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Sure but then what does her being a 5th grade teacher have to do with it? I live in Queens and we all got COVID. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 01:28 PM Flag
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Who else is going to take her place? a sub? Have you seen the quality of substitute teachers? they suck! you may as well go back to online teaching. Nothing will get done with a sub. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 05:18 PM Flag
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Who knows but she tutors on the side. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 04:12 PM Flag
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my dc's teacher died. I'm still extremely upset. I hope you get better soon. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.20, 12:26 AM Flag
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No - it’s not like they’re sitting at home eating bon-bons during all this. I can’t imagine have to download and grade 30 kids’ assignments and comment and upload. And many are parents too! It’s probably much easier to teach a normal day of school than to carry out all this remote learning or even teach multiple shifts of kids in a staggered schedule. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:16 AM Flag
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This. I'm afraid that there is still this prevailing myth that teaching is easy. And, it is perpetuated by people who have never taught. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:46 AM Flag
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But that’s your job. We all have to do work to do our jobs, as well. Working remotely, at least in my industry, is more challenging. I’m tired of hearing how teachers think their work hardships are disproportionate to the work hardships of others. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 01:10 PM Flag
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This! We all have kids at home and have to do our jobs, 8-12h a day sometimes. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 02:06 PM Flag
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There's nothing like teaching, please have dinner with some teachers. Particularly teachers in public schools filled with poor students. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:08 PM Flag
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I figured this was coming. Look at other people’s professions. They, too, are uniquely different from what you do, and uniquely difficult. Yet most people do not go on about how hard they work and how much harder they work than people in other professions. Yet the teachers I know all have this mindset that no one works harder or suffers more than they do, and no matter what, non teachers cannot possibly understand their hardships. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:25 PM Flag
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Honestly, if you ever spent any time in a classroom this isn't a comment you would make. There is a reason that the drop out rate in teaching is so high. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 07:18 PM Flag
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Both of my parents are teachers. Yes, it is hard work but other parents are also working hard and helping their kids with schooling. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 04:13 PM Flag
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Good for your parents. I'd invited anyone who thinks teaching isn't hard to spend a week in a classroom, then evenings preparing lesson plans, then "free time" interacting with parents and administration. Oh, and figure out how to go to the bathroom when there are no breaks. Oh, and stand up in the hallway eating lunch. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 07:19 PM Flag
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I’m not saying that teaching isn’t hard. But you’re not listening. You’re just proving my point that you have unique hardships and you’re ignoring the point that other jobs also have unique hardships but don’t think they suffer more than any other worker. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 07:32 PM Flag
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But the WORKERS of those other jobs don’t think they suffer more than others, that is. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 07:34 PM Flag
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Teachers don't think they suffer more than others. They just want recognition that they suffer like everyone else, and for people to stop disrespecting their profession and claiming they are slackers. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 08:09 PM Flag
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THIS. I can't think of any other profession (DMV workers, maybe?) where the general public feels more comfortable trash talking them based on limited understanding. I'm not surprised teachers are defensive. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 09:46 PM Flag
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Dude, we are all working hard. Why is it so hard to comprehend that others deal with coworkers, bosses, deadlines, client troubles, etc? And their kids at home? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 08:29 PM Flag
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^^ And add to that job insecurity for many of us. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 09:16 PM Flag
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Please. Get to know some teachers. I wouldn't want that job at quadruple the pay. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:08 PM Flag
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I don't think they DO think this, though. Whenever I have heard a teacher talk about how hard they work (either during CoVid or previously) it has been in response to claims from others that they barely work. They are not saying their hardships are worse, just trying to get recognition that they don't have it easy like people claim. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 08:00 PM Flag
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My sister wants to come back because the alternative that is being discussed is a staggered schedule. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:17 AM Flag
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First, I think you should talk to some teachers before you declare that it is easier...cause it isn't. Second, they are earning every penny of what they make (as I'm sure you are). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:27 AM Flag
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As a doctor, you've chosen a profession where the degree of risk to your health is greater than if you were, e.g., a lawyer. That's a choice you've made. Teachers didn't choose to be teachers with full knowledge that they would be exposed to life-threatening illnesses. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:42 AM Flag
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I mean... most of us are in this boat who work. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:47 AM Flag
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Most jobs that require staff to be on site have taken measures to reduce risk. Of course it can't be completely eliminated. Teachers don't think it can be completely eliminated for them either. But the DOE has to do what it can to protect workers. At the moment, it's refusing to commit to anything. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:55 AM Flag
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Many employers have come out and said the issue is not the office but how you get people to the office - i.e. subways and trains. Again, that is on the govn't to solve, and to date they said they will not be doing anything besides nightly cleanings. The Point is that EVERYONE who goes back to work is at risk, not just teachers. Kids go back to school, they will bring home whatever germs to their families too. Teachers are not exempt [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 04:44 PM Flag
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I’m pretty sure seasonal flu is life threatening too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 12:27 PM Flag
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Let's put to rest the idea that COVID is like the flu. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:07 PM Flag
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I hope you read CDC's latest estimate that COVID has a mortality rate of 0.4% for people showing symptoms which means the mortality rate is even lower for all infected. 0.4% is not unlike flu. Even if you believe COVID is nothing like flu, I'm just using flu as an example to say that teachers did sign for profession with slight more health risk. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 09:55 PM Flag
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Everyone is in this situation! Teachers are not an exception here. We all will be returning to work, and while I might not work with kids, I will have to ride packed subway cars to get to my office. No one "signed up" for this but its the reality we will have to live with. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:26 PM Flag
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Teachers are not asking not to return to work. They are asking for the DOE to take measures to make it safer (not completely risk free) for them. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 07:56 PM Flag
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What measures have teachers been asking for? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 08:56 PM Flag
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Extra cleaning staff to clean surfaces; sanitation supplies (do you realise how many schools in NYC don't even have soap in the bathrooms?); staggered schedules so kids aren't all crowding the hallways at the same times and can sit more than a foot apart in classrooms. https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-york-city-teachers-push-for-specific-safety-measures-before-schools-reopen-11589731201 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 09:20 PM Flag
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Teacher here: it is safer to stay home, but not easier. FYI, the demands the union is making (eg. staggered schedule) would result in teachers being at school full time, just with students more spread out (and other measures like better testing, cleaning, etc). None of this is ideal but I think the union's position is a good compromise. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 04:20 AM Flag
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what is the unions position? No school? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 07:48 PM Flag
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No. Inform yourself before mouthing off. The union is calling for a staggered schedule to make physical distancing possible (eg. students alternate days); PPE for teachers; temperature testing; measures to ensure students who turn up sick are sent home or cared for outside of class. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 07:55 PM Flag
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I am on white Facebook group full of teachers and many want to go back and other feel it is unsafe. My dh works at a giant company and he said many want to go back and many feel it is unsafe. The difference is that his job can take safety precautions. There are kids in the doe that bite, kids that wear diapers, kids that need 1:1 assistance all day. I think a lot of UB thinks schools are filled with a neuro-typical students. It is a huge system of with many different students. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 11:14 AM Flag
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What is a white Facebook group? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 12:24 PM Flag
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Sorry, whole facebook group! I need to go to my eye dr when it opens. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 02:16 PM Flag
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True, plus all classes are overcrowded (28-32 students), so there is a basic challenge for everyone and I've not heard one decent strategy. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 12:50 PM Flag
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THIS! How many of the people here are in an "office" with 30 people in close quarters? And, you don't social distance from kids in a classroom? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:09 PM Flag
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White facebook group? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 12:51 PM Flag
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whole! It is a diverse group of NYC educators! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 02:17 PM Flag
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oh, LOL [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 05:18 PM Flag
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Yes, me. Parents are homeschooling, so why not extend the situation for much longer? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 11:25 AM Flag
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Rather than lashing out at teachers, why don't you fight for strong unions for all of us? Isn't that what you're saying you want? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 01:37 PM Flag
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Never going to happen [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 02:53 PM Flag
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I totally agree. They want to be paid their full salaries for doing 3 hours of work a day while watching their own kids. Who wouldn't? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 02:40 PM Flag
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And don't try to tell me they're working all day. My 3rd grader has two 20 minute zoom calls a week and every assignment is from one online site or another. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 02:41 PM Flag
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Google is the teacher now. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 05:19 PM Flag
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This [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 02:53 PM Flag
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stfu - this is gross. they are swamped with work. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.20, 12:27 AM Flag
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Zero. The union won’t want to pay benefits if these teachers start getting sick from Covid. Offer issue is that wealthy folks are not coming back , and screening is going away. There will be no tax base to pay for these teachers and their insane benefits. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 02:50 PM Flag
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Yes, if we talking public schools, 80% of the kids attending our public schools (Chicago) are poor. And, the poor in Chicago are the ones most hit by the virus...which means these kids have the greatest chance of being carriers of the virus. Let me ask you: Would you go back to work under those conditions? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:06 PM Flag
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I didn't know that we got to choose when and how we feel like working. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:08 PM Flag
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I don't work in a small room with 28 to 30 people. And, people in a demographic that is constantly catching colds, with runny noses, and whose work I am supposed to check from the distance of over their shoulders. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:17 PM Flag
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I work in a 100 percent open office, think trading desk. With 200 people in close quarters. My ass will be in seat when I am told [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 05:46 PM Flag
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This! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 09:18 PM Flag
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I don't know of a single teacher who went into teaching cause it was an easy gig. They go into teaching cause they are committed to teaching, and those who don't leave pretty quickly. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:05 PM Flag
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Lol you don't know many teachers then. I am related to seven or eight current and retired teachers and every one of them did it so they could be home by 4 and have summers off. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:07 PM Flag
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I don't believe you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:12 PM Flag
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Several of my teacher friends have admitted this to me, too. Every June I regret my decision not to become a teacher. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:28 PM Flag
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I don't believe you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:54 PM Flag
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You don’t know me. And I am telling the truth. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 04:01 PM Flag
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Same here ! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 05:47 PM Flag
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Your family sound like the bad apples that give teachers a bad name then, because I know many teachers and not one of them did it for that reason. Must suck to be related to such awful people. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 08:02 PM Flag
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I am a teacher and being home with my kids after school and during summers was a factor for me. Is that wrong? I know many people who went into different fields for financial reasons and nobody bats an eye. Good hours and a pension is a job perk. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 08:43 PM Flag
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Sure, but is it the only reason like this poster is claiming? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 09:16 PM Flag
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No, certainly not. It helps though! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 10:31 PM Flag
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Sure. That's different from the myth that teachers are lazy and motivated only by time off. I am home with my kids after school but I'm also working for several hours after they go to bed. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 10:53 PM Flag
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What? I'm a teacher and grade papers almost every night. Then I teach summer school in the summer--if I didn't, we couldn't afford our mortgage. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.20, 04:53 AM Flag
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How would you propose social distancing 30 kids in a classroom? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:09 PM Flag
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Amazing. This board is filled with women complaining about having to manage a kid or two on remote learning, and yet the attitude seems to be that teachers are slackers... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:16 PM Flag
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Come on. Have you been able to successfully teach multiple kids in *different* classes, all while doing your own job? It's literally like having 3+ full time jobs at the same time. And that's if they can WFH! When Cuomo announced the phases to have people return to work before education, how does he expect women to return to work without childcare? It's insane. Many women are juggling multiple things right now and I dont see men cutting back hours or quitting their jobs to help with the kids schooling or childcare. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:32 PM Flag
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This isn't a question for teachers, this is a question for the government. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:54 PM Flag
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Most of these women are also working full time. My dc is finished with remote school by 10:00 each morning and has one live class a day. (Middle school). I don’t think the teachers are slackers, but I do fault the administration for this pathetic effort. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:33 PM Flag
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I don't expect my children's teachers to endanger their lives. I'm not endangering mind, even if I go back to working in an office with adults, each of whom with wear a mask, wash their hands 20x a day, and sit in well ventilated offices. This isn't the teachers' issue, this is a larger issue. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:36 PM Flag
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Thank you. I know families are tired, I know that they are worried about their jobs, however, let's not fault teachers for not wanting to risk their lives. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:41 PM Flag
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So when do teachers feel like going back? 2021? 2023? 2025? We certainly don't want any teachers to be uncomfortable. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:45 PM Flag
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NP: I don't want teachers to die. You know, or at least I hope you do, this isn't a matter of being uncomfortable. This is a matter of life and death for teachers and their families. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:51 PM Flag
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So....never then? But of course they still want to be paid. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:57 PM Flag
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ok, so everyone else has to go back to work and risk their lives but teachers can stay home and get paid, because... why? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 04:39 PM Flag
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Are you going to an office of 30 people sitting packaged in a room, and several of them have some kind of minor illness causing sneezing, coughing...etc? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 05:12 PM Flag
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how many people cram into a subway car during rush hour? far more than 30. There is literally no personal space. Maybe they will be wearing masks, maybe they wont. How is this different? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 06:21 PM Flag
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Do those people spend the entire day on the subway? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 06:26 PM Flag
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Does that make a difference? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 07:43 PM Flag
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Well yes, actually. Virus is most often spread by prolonged close contact. By the way, many teachers will be riding subway cars to schools, and THEN spending the entire day in close contact with 30 kids with no space to distance and no cleaning supplies. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 09:57 PM Flag
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I teach and take the subway! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 10:32 PM Flag
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They shouldn't be paid if they're not working [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 11:43 PM Flag
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Do you not have to ride a crowded subway to get to work? If your child goes to school they will then be bringing home whatever they pick up to you as well. "Endangering" your life also. We either reopen, or we don't. If you have to go to work and your children dont have to go to school, how would that even work? You are ok to quit your job in that scenario? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:48 PM Flag
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I don't think that this is an issue teachers should be asked to solve. The teachers I know work/sleep..that's it. And, yes, they have kids at home, too. Many of them teach in poor schools, where 70% of the parents don't speak English, so they are teaching subject matter AND they are helping kids navigate life. And, they do it without the respect, let alone the gratitude of the public. Contact your local system's head office and ask this question..don't put this issue teachers. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:53 PM Flag
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I dont think I am asking the teachers to solve this issue. The govn't is asking people to get back to work without solving many issues - including how to safely get anyone to work (subway), and how to protect teachers or provide childcare if schools have to close. Teachers are not alone here [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 04:16 PM Flag
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I hear you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 05:11 PM Flag
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Agreed. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 06:37 PM Flag
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That is silly. I think that those teachers with medical conditions should be given an option to stay home, but others must return. I need to take two different subway lines to get to work, so my environment is not rush free either. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 06:11 PM Flag
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Do you spend the entire day on the subway? Then you can say it is the same. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 06:26 PM Flag
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No, but I will be spending my day in an open space environment with a lot of people. Commuting to work takes about an hour each way, so I will have plenty of exposure to the virus. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 06:50 PM Flag
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Not the same as a teacher who commutes, spends hours each day in a room with 30 plus kids. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 07:17 PM Flag
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See? They have it so much harder than anyone else!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 07:25 PM Flag
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I know... it’s insane [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 07:56 PM Flag
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Does it matter? you're splitting hairs trying to prove a point [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 07:45 PM Flag
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This [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 07:55 PM Flag
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Covid is dangerous, but the danger is very heavily skewed toward the elderly. If you're under 50, Covid is less deadly than seasonal flu. And we don't close the schools every flu season. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 06:44 PM Flag
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75% of the deaths are the elderly,which means 25% are not. However, we are learning that for even those who recover, the damage to the body is huge. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 07:16 PM Flag
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No. The teachers' unions want to reopen with safety measures. Many public schools don't even have funding for soap in the restrooms: the unions want sanitation supplies, cleaning protocols, and staggered schedules to allow for distancing. What is unreasonable about that? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 08:07 PM Flag
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I dont see how staggered schedules would work in reality here. Does it mean teachers have to work longer hours? Or some kids are home from school some days - who provides childcare on those days? Teachers cant be expected to be teaching in person and online at the same time. Seems like this would make things infinitely harder on teachers tbh. The City is conceding that they will not be able to do social distancing on the subway, and are just encouraging people to wear masks. I have a feeling that's what is going to happen with schools too. Increased sanitation, cleaning, handwashing, and PPE - def not unreasonable [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 09:08 PM Flag
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Maybe. The problem is that cleaning, sanitation, and handwashing facilities are limited to nonexistent in many schools, especially those that don't have a wealthy parent body to fundraise and the DOE is reluctant to commit to the cost of providing the extra measures for the indefinite period that the virus is a threat. That is where everyone's anger should be directed, not at the teachers' unions who are insisting on them. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 09:15 PM Flag
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that is insane!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 09:18 PM Flag
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What is? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 09:44 PM Flag
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Of course it is. Welcome to education (under)funding for the last several decades. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 09:56 PM Flag
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Yes. DOE wants any cleaning/sanitation measures to come from schools' existing budgets, meaning every dollar spent on custodian hours, hand sanitiser, etc, is one less dollar available to fund the actual education provided, at a time when schools are already incredibly under-resourced. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 09:59 PM Flag
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exactly! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.20, 12:28 AM Flag
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I think teachers CAN teach in person and online at the same time and it's exactly what they should do. Just do live streaming. And I think teacher should work longer hours. Anyone I know who's WFH now is working longer hours and many for a reduced pay. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 09:59 PM Flag
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I am a teacher. I know it's not the prevailing myth (and I want to be clear here that I am saying this in response to your statement that we need to work longer hours, not spontaneously whining) but I already work long hours outside of instructional time, grading and planning for my MS ELA classes. I am at school from 7 to 5, and I work for 2-3 more hours at night after my own children are asleep. I do a full day of work on the weekend while DH takes the kids out. If instructional hours are extended further by staggering, parents will have to accept that some of their children's work won't be graded and that lessons will be less interesting/dynamic, because there are just no more hours available for me to work. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 10:08 PM Flag
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That's really a lot of hours. Thanks for the insights. Then I think live streaming so half of the class stays home at any given time is the way to go. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.20, 02:08 AM Flag
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it isn't. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.20, 12:28 AM Flag
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This is more about anti-union. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 09:49 PM Flag
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No, I do not think this AT ALL. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 10:23 PM Flag
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stop union bashing. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.20, 12:29 AM Flag
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