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06.02.20, 14:31 PM General Topics
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Whole grains - foundation of a healthy diet or bane of dieter's existence? What say you, UB? [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
General Topics 06.02.20, 02:31 PM Flag
 

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the only diets that have ever worked for me are low carb diets [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 02:32 PM Flag
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Same for me [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 03:49 PM Flag
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I can lose weight eating them, but YMMV [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 02:40 PM Flag
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It's the "YMMV" that I wonder about. I added more whole grains to my diet after reading "How Not to Die" but they don't seem to be doing my waistline any good. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 03:06 PM Flag
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added them but no other dietary changes? i wouldn't expect that to work. for me its instead of white flour or white rice. I find getting a lot of fiber is important. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 06:20 PM Flag
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What’s wrong with them? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 02:48 PM Flag
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Some people say they gain weight while eating them. Others seem to lose weight. Just wondering what the UB moms think. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 02:52 PM Flag
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The UB moms think you you should eat between 3p-6p, no carbs, no fruit, no alcohol [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 02:57 PM Flag
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Don't forget animal products. No animal products. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 03:06 PM Flag
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np. so basically eat lettuce? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 03:12 PM Flag
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I think celery and asparagus with olive oil are fine, too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 03:28 PM Flag
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I am one of the people who gain tons of weight from whole grains [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 03:50 PM Flag
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I don't feel good when I eat carbs. I love them, they taste delicious. They make me lethargic and they don't help my weight. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 03:22 PM Flag
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Just watch your caloric intake, and balance sugar and fiber. "Whole grains" are not created equal - I mean, it's now a marketing term added to Froot Loops. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 03:22 PM Flag
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Sorry, but just watching the calorie intake does not help everyone. I lose weight on a high-calorie low-carb diet and gain weight on a restricted-calorie diet with increased amount of carbs and fruit. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 03:51 PM Flag
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Obviously there are many other variables (activity, benefits of certain foods and nutrients to your metabolism, etc.), but broadly speaking, assuming that someone keeps their activity level the same, if they normally consumed 2000 cals per day and switch to 1200 cals a day, there will be weight loss. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 04:03 PM Flag
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Wrong again. I have been doing intense cardio and weights and have gained weight on a diet with less than 1200 calories. I quickly lost weight when I switched to a low carb diet, while increasing my calories intake. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 04:27 PM Flag
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Famine mode? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 04:35 PM Flag
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I don’t understand your comment. I said when remove all carbs except for green vegetables, I lose weight. At the same time, I increase my calorie intake by eating lots of nuts and lean protein, so i am certainly not starving. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 05:41 PM Flag
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No, you were saying that when you drop to 1200 calories you GAIN. I was asking if that was your body going into famine mode. Not trying to be aggressive, just curious and looking to learn. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 08:21 PM Flag
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No way you gain weight eating 1200 calories a day. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 11:28 AM Flag
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Maybe you should read Jon Gabriel. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 04:56 PM Flag
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Thank you for your suggestion. I will take a look. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 05:41 PM Flag
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This made me chuckle. In the question, I really meant real whole grains - plain brown rice or minimally processed oatmeal - not fruit loops. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 04:55 PM Flag
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Neither. It doesn't really matter what you eat, so long as it is not over processed. It matters how much you eat. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 03:24 PM Flag
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That has not proved true in my own experience, but I am not speaking in general. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 03:28 PM Flag
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That’s like the science from the 50s. What matters is what food you eat. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 03:52 PM Flag
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yes but people were not as obese in the 50s [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 05:18 PM Flag
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People did not eat/drink so much junk back then [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 05:42 PM Flag
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It's the science of the 2020's. Fad diets (gluten free, sugar free, grain free, raw food, blood type, meat free) have proven to be psychological and have nothing to do with physical weight gain. Calories in/calories out. Of course, different people can trick themselves into doing different psychological things with how many calories they consume, but if you consume a certain number of calories, your body is going to react the same, no matter where those calories come from. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:35 PM Flag
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I'm a vegan who has wrestled with this a long time and think the whole grains should be largely avoided. I feel and look my best with HUGE amounts of greens, fruit, all vegetables and a spare serving of beans/seeds daily. Whole grains maybe once or twice a week. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 03:56 PM Flag
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^ Our bodies run on glucose. Glucose is most easily digested in fruits and vegetables. I just keep eating this and keep losing weight, getting compliments on my skin (otherwise untouched), and having low brain fog in my 50s due to this diet. Oh and I'm thin for the first time in my adult life. Been doing it five years. I eat a shit-ton of food. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 03:57 PM Flag
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What is a sample day for you? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 04:32 PM Flag
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Breakfast: four or five frozen bananas and acai or dark cherries blended. Add maca powder. Put hemp seeds (or any seeds)and tons of fresh berries/shredded coconut on top. I drink fresh orange juice a few hours later. Lunch: huge salad of tahini and lemon dressing with fresh greens, a giant sweet potato, chick peas, roasted beets, tons of fresh spinach or greens. Snack: another sweet potato or a giant bowl of sweet cherry tomatoes. Glass of lemonade with honey and mint (blended with ice). Dinner: minestrone soup or "the stew" or any soup/salad. I also eat oysters and clams (some vegans do) -- but my go-to is simply fresh roasted vegetables like asparagus, fennel, cauliflower. Toss some seeds or tahini sauce. I try to stay 90/10. That's 90 percent plants, 10 percent oils (seeds, olive oil) for best weight loss. For maintenance I move that to 80/20. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 04:42 PM Flag
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That sounds like a low- calorie diet. A giant bowl of sweet tomatoes fills your stomach, but barely has any calories. Also, it does not sound healthy - where is protein? A few chickpeas are not going to solve it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 11:09 AM Flag
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+1. If you ate 3 snickers bars, your results would be the same. Your health is largely genetic. Do you roast vegetables every other day? I tried that for a while, but I felt like I was non-stop shopping for, preparing, roasting, storing, and throwing out rotting vegetables. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:39 PM Flag
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Thank you SO much for this - I really needed to hear it. I don't want to hear it bc I want to keep eating oatmeal etc. But it feels right. I'm glad you have found it sustainable. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 04:32 PM Flag
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Yes it's sustainable and I just make sure I eat a ton. I use frozen bananas as a grain/bread substitute: so instead of oatmeal do an acai and four frozen bananas bowl with some hemp seeds and fresh berries on top. It has the same fullness feeling of oatmeal. I will eat a sandwich once a week when I crave bread (or a vegan pizza) but I save it for a treat. Good luck to you! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 04:36 PM Flag
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Thank you again! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 04:39 PM Flag
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Good luck! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 04:44 PM Flag
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Many women can't eat bananas daily due to menopause. Something to do with potassium affecting iron? You're lucky it hasn't caused you problems. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:40 PM Flag
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Oatmeal is literally the healthiest food you can eat. It shouldn't "feel right" not to eat it. Ask any doctor, personal trainer, nutritionist. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:47 PM Flag
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I am pre-diabetic and would literally die on this diet. 5 or 6 bananas sounds like a lot of sugar. Maybe this way of eating works for some people, but it would fail as a mainstream diet. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 05:44 PM Flag
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+1, that is a lot of sugar. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 05:51 PM Flag
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I challenge you to get your bloodwork done. Follow this diet for six months. Get your bloodwork done again. You will have blood sugar levels of a teenager. Happens to most who do it. But don't believe me! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 04:44 AM Flag
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^ and I was pre-diabetic five years ago and this diet made it possible for me to avoid meds [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 04:44 AM Flag
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That's awesome! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 12:47 PM Flag
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Too much glucose in your diet leads to diabetes. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 05:45 PM Flag
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Naturally occurring glucose DOES NOT lead to high blood sugar: the opposite. You need to do your research on this before spouting off dairy- and meat-marketing tropes. Most vegans who eat mostly raw fruits have literally perfect blood work. Google and WebMD is your friend. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 04:43 AM Flag
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I don’t need Google or WebMd - I speak with real Drs who advise me on these issues. You clearly have no idea of basic science behind nutrition, so please stop. Speak with any diabetic about what happens to him/her after eating a couple of bananas. But wait, you have google for that!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 04:47 AM Flag
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I eat whole grains for sure. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.02.20, 11:29 PM Flag
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I think you have to see what works for your body. Note how you feel after eating lots of grains. Some people handle it fine. Also, many breads are not 100% whole grain, so you may think you're eating whole wheat bread, but look at the ingredients, or make sure it says "100% whole grain". [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 11:39 AM Flag
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Thanks. As I responded earlier, I really do mean "whole grain." I find them energizing in the moment, honestly, but I think they must be fattening over time or something. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 12:46 PM Flag
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Weight gain is calories in and calories out. Get a calorie counting app and eat within the calories and you will lose weight. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.20, 03:14 PM Flag
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