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06.03.08, 10:35 AM NY Schools
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how many 99s have NEST as first choice? we do and i feel pretty good about getting in - am i delusional? [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
NY Schools 06.03.08, 10:35 AM Flag
 

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Not us - we did Anderson 1st. But I think all 99s will get NEST. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 10:36 AM Flag
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agree. good luck! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 10:38 AM Flag
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thanks! i know a lot of people are not impressed with the school but we really like it for our dc [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 10:43 AM Flag
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We put it 2nd (after Anderson), but we also liked it very much. GL! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 11:01 AM Flag
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Ditto. We love it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 11:30 AM Flag
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and some 98s [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 10:38 AM Flag
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really? i hope so, but this board stresses me out [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 12:35 PM Flag
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I have a theory that people who don't get a NEST placement the first go round may get a call over the summer based on people refusing their spots (probably the same for TAG if it comes to that) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 12:55 PM Flag
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that would be awesome, but somehow i suspect the DOE will give it to people below 97 who didn't get any placement [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 12:59 PM Flag
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They can't do that --qualification is 97 plus. They may hold the spots for people who move over the summer however. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 01:37 PM Flag
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in which case a new 97 could get in before an old 98 or 99 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 01:53 PM Flag
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Unless said 98 or 99 lobbied DOE for a spot... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 02:04 PM Flag
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and how to do that is clearly the question... or will nest given those "open" spots to sibs who were 90-97 scoring... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 02:05 PM Flag
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of course. and I think this is totally fair. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 04:52 PM Flag
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We do too. And I know the feeling. We're being very presumptuous about getting in. Will be *extremely* disappointed to get news otherwise! GL [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 10:43 AM Flag
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I assume all 99s who ranked Nest first will get it. I have no basis in fact for this assumption other than the fact that it has the most spots and many 99s are going to put Anderson 1st. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 10:53 AM Flag
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And that many who list A first are NOT listing Nest 2nd [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 10:58 AM Flag
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but if you fc anderson and sc nest and don't get into anderson you are not at a disadvantage for nest, right? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 11:09 AM Flag
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Not according to the DOE [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 11:10 AM Flag
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I am not right or one is not disadvantaged? Sorry I asked an ambiguous question then for clarity asked another ambiguous. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 11:41 AM Flag
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You are not disadvantaged--if your lottery number is higher you will get your 2nd choice before an equal (or lower) score gets their first [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 12:19 PM Flag
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thanks. That is what I thought. (Funny thing is I am a current parent. Just have some friends applying and they ask me questions like I have insider information.) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 12:24 PM Flag
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agree. nest just isn't a very good school. anyone who is smart with a good zoned option or a shot at anderson wouldn't even bother. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 12:58 PM Flag
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I wouldn't say that. It just isn't for everyone. We ranked it 3rd. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 01:15 PM Flag
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the doe thinks it's not a very good school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 01:17 PM Flag
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They don't think PS 87 is a very good school either and that is one of the most popular non G&T schools. I don't know why every time Nest is mentioned one or two people feel the need to trash it. If it not for you, move on and let the people who like it discuss their desire to get in. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 01:40 PM Flag
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np: I really do believe its actually only 1 person. Maybe her dc got kicked out? Not sure. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 01:48 PM Flag
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you seem awfully defensive. this is a board for sharing opinions. sorry if mine isn't the same as yours. oh, and ps87 is called proficient by the doe. nest is described as undeveloped. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 01:53 PM Flag
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NEST IS 7 YEARS OLD! Do you get this?? And just had a massive administration overhaul over the last few years! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 01:56 PM Flag
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seven years is hardly yesterday. and even if you argue they should have more time to get their sh&t together, why would you want to send dc to a school that doesn't? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 02:02 PM Flag
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Because obviously I disagree that it doesn't have its shit together. I think it presents a pretty amazing opportunity, and am willing to work with the school through some growing pains. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 02:07 PM Flag
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np: my ds is at NEST. The administration's communication flaws are a bit of a nuisance to me. They mean nothing to my ds or any of his classmates. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 02:09 PM Flag
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it's a trickle down thing. the incompetent administration can't attract or keep good, experienced teachers and that does affect the students. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 04:46 PM Flag
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I love this controversy. Keeps NEST a little less competitive in UB-land. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 05:11 PM Flag
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it's amazing to me that people with incredibly smart dcs (and who, one would assume, must be able to count to 10 without using their fingers) completely buy into nest when it obviously has problems. gullible little lemmings! a market researcher's dream! if only they'd been pitched coke zero instead of a mediocre school in the outer mongolia of manhattan! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 05:26 PM Flag
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You cant say NEST is actually going out and pitching itself. Seriously, what happened between you and NEST? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:33 PM Flag
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doe says it's a citywide, therefore it must be good. words like accelerated and peer group are thrown around by people who have no idea what they are talking about. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 05:22 AM Flag
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np: I'll bite. What makes you an expert? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 09:15 AM Flag
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the doe says it doesn't have it's sh&t together. when i offered this bit of information, you countered that it is only 7 years old, an apparent excuse. now you're saying it does have it's sh&t together. which is it? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 05:40 PM Flag
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I said the 7 years old thing, and I'm not the one you're responding to. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 07:32 PM Flag
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As was said below by the seven years poster -- I am a new poster ("np:") -- I would argue that although the school is seven years old, to count the first five years -- the years under Celenia Chévere -- as part of the current administration's learning curve is silly. By every one's account, the school changed dramatically two years ago. The current principal -- I just looked this up -- started two years ago this June and became permanent a year and a half ago. There was a lot of bad blood between the old guard and the new guard. I wasn't there for the old stuff and I could not care less (except to say that if what THE OLD ADMINISTRATION is accused of is true... they should rot.) What I can say is the school today has active involved parents. It has bright kids working hard. It has a good mix of teachers. I have no public option that comes close. I'd still like to know your relation to NEST... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 09:34 AM Flag
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"The DOE says it doesn't hav its shi&t together". Isn't that like the pot calling the kettle black? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 12:38 PM Flag
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defensive me? Hardly, my kid goes to Hunter--but I don't know why you would call everyone "nuts" who might consider a particular school. Luckily many of us have different priorities or there would only be 1 or 2 schools to satisfy everyone. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 02:03 PM Flag
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i never called anyone "nuts." [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 02:05 PM Flag
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No I apologize--you called them stupid (or at least not "smart") [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 02:09 PM Flag
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np: My guess is that the poster you are addressing is either Celenia (the old NEST principal who thinks the DOE did her wrong) or one of the PTA people who thought opening up NEST to non-UMC whites was a bad idea. She has too much vested for this to be intellectual curiosity. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 09:48 AM Flag
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*snort* yes, anyone who has something bad to say about nest must be celenia. it's all a vast conspiracy. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 09:59 AM Flag
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So you are just some dispassionate observer who combs the DOE rankings and posts about NEST? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 10:09 AM Flag
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like every other person here, i post what i think. i don't have some nefarious agenda and i never worked for nest. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 10:14 AM Flag
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You've never had a kid at NEST yet have this much vested in posts about it? Really? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 10:15 AM Flag
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nope. never had a kid at nest and have nothing vested in the posts. just sharing my opinion. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 11:53 AM Flag
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From what facts have you formulated this opionion about Nest. Please state specific reasons why you have such a negative opionion about this school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 12:16 PM Flag
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So your opinion is based solely on the DOE Report card? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 12:30 PM Flag
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And the DOE knows all, right? The DOE doesn't like NEST because NEST doesn't blindly follow the curriculum that the DOE mandates. For instance the Math program. The money for that comes out of PTA dollars. There is also history there from the old principal. My dc is in Kindergarten and having dc there gives me such piece of mind. I had dc in a local PreK in Brooklyn last year that many people consider a really good option. To me the difference is night and day. Nest is an excellent school and any child that gets in there is very lucky. The parents are lucky too because not only are they getting a great school for their kid they will be getting the piece of mind of never having to go through this f*cked up admission process again that is handled by an incompetent DOE. A word to the wise, don't pay attention to those stupid report cards that the DOE put out last year on each of the schools. The horrible school in Brooklyn that my dc attended received an A. I was flabergasted. Partly that was because if improved from one year to the next and there was and still is plenty more room for improvement there. Part of what gets factored into the grade is the responses from the parents. Parents at that school (where I observed teachers chewing gum while teaching) rated that overcrowed school higher than Nest Parents rated Nest. Its all about expectations and experience. Nest parents never are complacent and are always looking at what can be improved, unlike the parents at the school who received an A, who were happy with the status quo. The people who say that Nest isn't a good school, do you have direct experience from sending your kid there or is this just speculation? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 09:12 AM Flag
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shhhhhh. would you please leave the public opinion about NEST at a "NEST sucks so badly!" The more people believe it is such a bad choice of school the more chances for us to get a spot. Dummy! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 09:29 AM Flag
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Sorry about that. I felt the same way last year when my dc was applying for kindergarten. Only we were lucky enough to have that NY York Magazine article come out that bashed the school at the same time people were gettting their acceptance notices. Last year they had a waitlist and my dc was on it and I think because so many people believed the bad hype, they opted out. I was, and still am today,so greatful for that article. :) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 09:34 AM Flag
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I hear you. Let's see how it plays out this year around. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 09:46 AM Flag
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the school report had nothing to do with singapore math [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 09:53 AM Flag
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No one ever said it did. Your point being.......? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 09:59 AM Flag
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"the doe doesn't like nest because it doesn't blindly follow the curriculum the doe mandates. for instance the math program." [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 10:15 AM Flag
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Still don't see your point. That statement has nothing to do with the school report cards. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 11:44 AM Flag
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that's where the doe says nest is not a good school. are you actually following this thread or are you too busy trying to unwedge the thumb that's up your butt? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 11:52 AM Flag
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Talking about thumb up a butt (and yours must be reaaaly big so you must have your fist up there.) Just by mentioning the DOE your opinion loses credibility. Just look at what a great job they have been doing lately with the outsourcing of their PreK placements amonsgst other things. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 12:02 PM Flag
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in other words, you lost track of the thread and now are sputtering about something completely different. if you think the doe sucks so bad, why aren't you sending dc to private school? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 12:06 PM Flag
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Why send your kid to private school when they can go to Nest or Anderson. Its a no brainer. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 12:11 PM Flag
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nothing but a ub rumor at this point. but, hey, that's way more reliable than the doe school reports. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 12:08 PM Flag
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you are way to informed about Nest. Your kid was either rejected or thrown out of there because you obviously have a personal gripe. Or as one poster said, you are Celenia. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 01:13 PM Flag
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this is a very, very odd accusation to make. anyone can and should read the school report for any school they are interested in on the doe website. i'm shocked this wouldn't be the first thing anyone would do as preliminary research on a school. i'm not saying the research isn't flawed. particularly the subjective data. but the polls conducted of teachers, for example, are very telling. i'm not celenia. just a parent who has done her homework. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 06:54 PM Flag
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A very gullible parent at that. Go in and tour the school see for yourself. Some really horrible schools got an A on their report card. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.06.08, 07:18 PM Flag
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i did tour the school in the fall. it was a joke. and if it was any representation of how the school is run, they have serious problems. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.06.08, 07:21 PM Flag
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Well, I am a parent who did their homework too. I toured many schools, public and private and I choose Nest and my dc was lucky enough to get in. So I think my opinion means more than yours because my kid is ACTUALLY IN the school and I am ACTUALLY dealing with the school on a day to day basis. In short, I have direct experience and you are operating on "I think, therefore I am". I can tell you and anyone else who wants to know, its a great school. If it weren't I would be equally verbal about that as well. As I said earlier, the school my dc went to last year got an A on its report card and this school is so bad. There was a mass exodus last year of kids because parents realized how horrible the school was. Yet the DOE gave it an A. So stop quoting the DOE. They are seriously one of the most f*cked up government agencies around. They are on par with Motor Vehicles. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.09.08, 08:20 AM Flag
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mind saying which PreK? Also, have you spoken with parents of older kids there? I'm curious how the workload is by 3rd or 4th grade. TIA! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 12:01 PM Flag
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Yes, I have spoken to other parents. There are kids in my neighborhood that go there that are in 3rd grade, 5th grade and 7th grade. I haven't talked much to the parents about their kids workload but I have noticed that their kids have a lot of time to do other things. The 7th grader also takes ballet 3 times a week and the 3rd grader takes piano and acting class afterschool. So the workload must be doable once the kid/family put a schedule together. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 12:09 PM Flag
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Thanks. Do you have a boy or girl? Have you had any experience with disciplline in the classroom? Do they have a consistent way of dealing with it? Keep hearing that they're rigid and strict and wonder how much of that is true under the new administration. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 12:19 PM Flag
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I think that WAS true under the old administration. They don't seem that strict to me. It seems pretty much the same as the school my dc was in last year. It could also vary a bit from teacher to teacher. They are consistant about what kind of behavior they expect from kids and its nothing out of the norm like no hitting, no calling out, finishing your work etc. Kids have recess twice a day. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 12:25 PM Flag
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Great. Thanks!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 12:27 PM Flag
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np: They do a green/yellow/red light kind of thing with punishment reward depending on where you are at. My kid is one of the easy ones so I haven't a lot to say other than... it seems a little more public than is fair at that age. Like they know who was on "red" again today. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 12:51 PM Flag
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Lots of the schools have that red, yellow, green thing going. It seems to work. the school my dc went to last year had it as well. One of the kindergarten teachers even added a color (orange) to give the kids more leeway. That same teacher is more lenient in other ways as well. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 01:05 PM Flag
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I'm a big fan of incremental approaches and everything. It is the public nature/ridicule(?) aspect I wonder about. But then again, shame is a good motivator so... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 01:33 PM Flag
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PS41 does this. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 01:23 PM Flag
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The DOE isn't a very credible source to quote. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 12:20 PM Flag
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Nest-hater? Is that you again? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 01:38 PM Flag
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lol. i think there are many people who don't get the nest hype. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 01:42 PM Flag
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Perhaps - but there is definitely *one* person here who chimes in everytime NEST is mentioned here, in exactly the same way. and I wouldn't exactly say there is "hype" around NEST. Just a lot of people who would be excited to get a spot there. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 01:47 PM Flag
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The only "hype" I have ever seen NEST get is bad. Despite that I still investigated the school for myself and talked to people who currently had their kids in there. Thats when I decided that would be the best place for my kid. DC is so happy there. Teachers are great too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 09:19 AM Flag
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np: I have decided to just ignore the troll. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 01:44 PM Flag
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And you say this based on what in your experience? Please give some concrete facts and reasons for this statement. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 11:46 AM Flag
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Here is what that poster said in another sub thread: "like every other person here, i post what i think. i don't have some nefarious agenda and i never worked for nest." "[I] never had a kid at nest and have nothing vested in the posts. just sharing my opinion." Unless poster was splitting hairs... (ie you don't "work for" the school, you work for the DOE.) I think poster is insane. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 02:52 PM Flag
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"... insane" or lying. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 02:54 PM Flag
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We are a 98 who put it as our 2nd choice because we felt we had to put A first "just in case" because we live so close to it--but we really want Nest (despite the commute) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 12:20 PM Flag
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post on NY Schools I'm sick and tired of reading this CRAP [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 04:53 PM Flag
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This is NY Schools. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 05:34 PM Flag
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this made me giggle... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 06:05 PM Flag
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Don' read it then. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 09:30 AM Flag
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You don't have to read it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 09:30 AM Flag
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We did. No idea what are chances are, though. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.03.08, 06:45 PM Flag
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I put N first and A second. Only 98 but we live in Brooklyn and A is too much of a hike. I hope we get in to N because if we don't 25k for K it will be [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 06:45 PM Flag
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which private k? please say giving up a girls spot at packer [ Reply | More
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General Topics 06.04.08, 07:47 PM Flag
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