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05.28.08, 17:51 PM Toddler
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apparently the park slope parents list serve is up in arms about their kids not getting into preschool. the whole nyc public school thing is crazy. [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
Toddler 05.28.08, 05:51 PM Flag
 

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This board has been up in arms about it too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 05:52 PM Flag
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um, it's preschool. preschool that everyone knows isn't a shoo-in anyway. why is everyone acting santa just crapped in their stocking for crying out loud? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:50 PM Flag
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um, b/c they left at the first criteria at many schools -- sibs get priority. And that PreK slots has a 20K pricetag. It is 20K you didn't win. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 07:10 PM Flag
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well, boo f&cking hoo. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 07:11 PM Flag
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or it could be the psp [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 05:53 PM Flag
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Spoken like someone who didn't apply to pre-k this year [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 05:53 PM Flag
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actually, went through process for k, but whatever. it is what you make of it [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 05:54 PM Flag
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It's totally different for pre-k, which you would know if you'd really been through it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 05:57 PM Flag
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np-if you live in the city (and that includes the boros), you recognize it isn't an easy process. if you bitch about it, your problem. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 05:58 PM Flag
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There's a difference between difficult and fair. It's a new process this year and there are clearly problems with it. Again, something you'd know had you gone through it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 05:59 PM Flag
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honestly, the process has totally favored white upper middle class kids (at least doe). now, city is trying to change it, white upper middle class families whining (aka psp). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:01 PM Flag
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I have no problems with the city trying to make it fair, but there's zero transparency into the process so I question how fair this new system is. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:04 PM Flag
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Amen! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 09:46 PM Flag
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my non-UMC zoned school had full day pre-K which last year was simple to get into. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.29.08, 09:59 AM Flag
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oh, so it's the prek. oops, my bad. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 05:59 PM Flag
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np. it's totally different because it's much less significant. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:52 PM Flag
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It's pretty significant to me since I can't afford private pre-k. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:56 PM Flag
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so what did you do with dc last year? daycare? a nanny? sahm? do it for another year. and quit acting so outraged. like you're somehow owed this. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:58 PM Flag
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I deserve the same shot at it as everyone in the city. What's you're problem? I have been WAH and will continue to do so, but now my son won't get to go to school. What's your damage exactly? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 07:00 PM Flag
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what, you think the deck was mysteriously stacked against you? conspiracy at the doe???? you did have the same shot. and you didn't get in. quit whining. suck it up. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 07:02 PM Flag
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Goodnight. You're an idiot or your drunk. If you had been reading any of this thread, you would know that there is a question of fairness and ineptitude (not conspiracy). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 07:03 PM Flag
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np. no, spoken like someone who realizes anyone who thinks they are entitled to public pre-k needs a major cluestick. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:51 PM Flag
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it is all over NYC, not just Park Slope. Maybe you don't live in a very desirable neighborhood... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 05:56 PM Flag
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what is with the bitchiness tonight? or just with you? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 05:57 PM Flag
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yea, it is just me and it is just park slope. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 05:57 PM Flag
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NP: It's a huge deal. You will be reading about it in the Times eventually. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 05:57 PM Flag
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bitchy OR here: there was an article in the Times about it last week - told about a woman in Tribeca who bought a $3million loft with the sole intent of being in the good school district, and her kid was placed in some school on the UES (not the good one) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 05:59 PM Flag
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Didn't read that article, but pre-k notifications are just out now. Doubtful it was this specific situation. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:00 PM Flag
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it was for Kindergarten, I believe. I was responding more to OP's general statement that the NYC public school thing is crazy. There are just too many children at the moment... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:02 PM Flag
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Agreed. It just seems like the pre-k thing is beyond awful. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:09 PM Flag
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it is totally crazy. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:22 PM Flag
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You are misrepresenting what the Times article said. Some kids going into K in the 234 zone have been placed on a waitlist for that school. No one has been placed in an upper east side school at this time. I don't remember the price of an apartment being given either. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:46 PM Flag
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:53 PM Flag
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this article and the facts described are not the same [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.29.08, 10:38 AM Flag
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of course, the times that gets its stories from ub. yes, there is an increase in kids under 5 in nyc, but if you live here with kids, you know the schools are a challenge to figure out. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:00 PM Flag
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This is a whole new level of problem though. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:01 PM Flag
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because it affects you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:02 PM Flag
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It does affect me, but the issue is this: DOE instituted a new, centralized process, claiming it would be more fair. Okay--sounds good. Instead, it seems totally bizarre and opaque. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:08 PM Flag
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not really. There just aren't enough spots for everyone who wants them. And people get mad if they don't get a spot. Such is life, preK is not guaranteed or mandatory. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:13 PM Flag
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Right, but then how about the DOE explains its criteria for deciding who gets in and who doesn't? So far they haven't done that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:14 PM Flag
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Should have been siblings first, then kids in the zone, then in the district. If more kids than spots in any category, then lottery. Sounds reasonable to me. Except I hear they messed up on the sibling front. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:16 PM Flag
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total ub rumor. no one knows this for sure. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 07:36 PM Flag
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ittta. why is everyone so upset about this when they knew it was a crapshoot? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 07:34 PM Flag
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it's not a huge deal. public pre-k is a gift for the lucky few. anyone who doesn't realize this as they are screaming hysterically and foaming at the mouth might as well be wearing a kick me sign they're such fools. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:53 PM Flag
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I actually think the city shouldn't offer pre-K unless they can provide it for every child. The old system, the new system - none of it is really fair. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:10 PM Flag
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I think it's going to come to that. Or, I think it should just be offered as a "head start" kind of thing, for kids with actual need. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:11 PM Flag
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That would be reasonable. In zones where there are a lot of kids, I've heard that less than 1/2 got public placements anywhere (not zoned or otherwise) this year. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:12 PM Flag
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:13 PM Flag
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And this surprises you? Most schools only have one preK classroom if any at all (the crowded ones have none), so obviously not all families can be accomodated. I would make it income based for families that can't afford private preschool only. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:14 PM Flag
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Here's the thing: in schools with more than 1 pre-k classroom that were not full this year, siblings have been rejected for next year. It's very strange. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:16 PM Flag
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I think they messed up the sibling preference thing. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:17 PM Flag
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I agree with you. But as it stands, it is very arbitrary. And in the past (I know it's changed this year), the lottery was total BS at our school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:16 PM Flag
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It's always been arbirtary, and you could pay your way in at some schools in the past. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:17 PM Flag
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Pay? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:19 PM Flag
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Donate money to the PTA and such. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:25 PM Flag
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Hello, people can you talk in specifics? I know kids at 10, 282, 154, who have had sibs rejected when there were plenty of spots, where else are sibs not getting the seats? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:14 PM Flag
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107 and 321 (of course) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:15 PM Flag
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Yes, but if you read PSP you know Susan Fox just posted that 107 came in all sibs, so they didn't screw up that one. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:23 PM Flag
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Interesting. Oh well, that's my zoned school (for next year). Guess I need to save my pennies for private preschool. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:25 PM Flag
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My kid got rejected even w/ sib preference. Just read that kids w/ no sibling preference got spots at my school. Now I am really pissed! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:25 PM Flag
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what school? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.29.08, 04:08 PM Flag
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good effing god these entitled jerks need to GET A LIFE!!!!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:49 PM Flag
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which ones? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:50 PM Flag
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the ones who think they are entitled to public pre-k!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:54 PM Flag
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Public education--oh, the horror! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:57 PM Flag
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the ones who are concerned about their childrens' education [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:54 PM Flag
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yoo-hoo!!! tap-tap-tap! insane person in your little glass bubble? public preschool is not an education. it's babysitting for people who don't want to shell out for private pre-k. this is why people are outraged. WAAAAAH!!! I DIDN'T GET SOMETHING FOR FREEEEEE!!!!!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:56 PM Flag
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Wow. Cocktailing early tonight? Would love to shell out of private pre-k if I had the cash, but I don't. Public pre-k is indeed an education--one that you are sorely lacking. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 06:58 PM Flag
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you know what? that's not the doe's problem. just keep dc at home another year. pre-school is not necessary. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 07:01 PM Flag
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It is the DOE's problem since some kids will enter public K better prepared than others which will make teaching all of them more challenging. Think about it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 07:05 PM Flag
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better prepared how? they can build a house out of popsicle sticks and the poor lottery losers can't? good christ. someone call arnold diaz. we need a shame on you. stat. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 07:10 PM Flag
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LOL! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 07:11 PM Flag
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Clearly you haven't a clue. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 07:17 PM Flag
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oh, i think i do. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 07:21 PM Flag
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NP: poster makes a good point! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 07:05 PM Flag
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And what is your HHI? You think maybe the majority of the people in the city can't afford private Prek as well as childcare for other siblings? Has it occurred to our country falls way short here? My oldest is public PreK & it is a fabulous program. Sorry you are missing out. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 07:02 PM Flag
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then move to europe. no one in nyc ever guaranteed you free preschool. sorry if you misunderstood the rules and regulations for playing this little game called city dwelling 101, but that's your problem. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 07:04 PM Flag
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Enough. You're a miserable person. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 07:06 PM Flag
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The What is bored with brownstoner. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 07:08 PM Flag
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Was totally thinking that! She is always lurking here.. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 07:11 PM Flag
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Probably has two windows open and trolling both sites at the same time. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 07:12 PM Flag
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The problem is that there should be something between the free preschools and the $23K a year preschools. I live in NJ and my dcs go to a program that costs $300 a month. There is no free school, but just about anyone can afford it. And I completely disagree that preschool is just babysitting, and is not necessary. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 07:08 PM Flag
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again, not the doe's problem. fwiw, there are plenty of preschools and preschool alternatives in nyc that cost half that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 07:11 PM Flag
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Yeah, where? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 07:16 PM Flag
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and half of $23K is still way beyond the reach of most people [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 07:17 PM Flag
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but what are those people doing for childcare for the four years preceeding preschool? it's not like preschool is a legal requirement. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 07:22 PM Flag
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Well, if your HHI is below 55K you are totally covered 8-6 12 months/year through ACS programs. It is the middle class that is screwed in this city. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 07:26 PM Flag
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but how is not having preschool paid for you screwed, exactly? i never went to preschool. i graduated near the top of my class, went to an ivy and have a successful career. it's really not the end of the world if dc doesn't get into a public pre-k they were never guaranteed a spot in anyway. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 07:28 PM Flag
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I've never heard of ACS programs for families with under 55K income. I found it impossible to get a foster child into ACS programs for which she qualified. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 07:30 PM Flag
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Helen Owen Carey Center, Park Slope -- call them. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 07:33 PM Flag
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tutor time, preschool of america, bright horizons, kids korner, kidsville, manhattan kids club, children's aid society, downing street playgroup, chelsea piers.... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 07:21 PM Flag
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My dd has gone to two of those and they both cost 20k [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.29.08, 09:14 AM Flag
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Name them. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 07:17 PM Flag
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Actually, only a few preschools which are not attached to ongoings charge $23K (but most I know are not as low as half). Of course, it does also depend on the number of hours and days your dc goes. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 07:51 PM Flag
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^^^NP [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 07:51 PM Flag
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you make me so glad I don't live in the city anymore. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.28.08, 07:02 PM Flag
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preschool is not public school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.29.08, 09:53 AM Flag
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