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05.26.08, 09:43 AM NY Schools
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Is the person who said that they heard that Anderson siblings might be getting preference at PS9 G&T here. If so, how credible are your sources? Did you hear that from someone at DOE, from the school or just on UB? [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
NY Schools 05.26.08, 09:43 AM Flag
 

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if that happens, they have to give preference to ps9 kids over others for their program. otherwise makes no sense for ps9. they need new blood and if there is going to be this sort of cooperation, it should go both ways. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 03:02 PM Flag
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ITTTA! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 03:25 PM Flag
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there is no truth to that rumor. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 06:05 PM Flag
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yes, there is. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 06:13 PM Flag
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np: I am at PS9 (and pretty involved) and asked about it and nobody there has heard of it. The school is very much against it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 06:19 PM Flag
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I don't want to start a big fight, but I am interested to know why the school might be against it (particularly if it works both ways). I always imagine the great hardship of having children in two different schools in NY. It seems sort of sad to me that a family might have to pass up a school like Anderson because their other child is in school in a different part of the city. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 06:25 PM Flag
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The way it was presented was as a one-way, one-sided thing for Anderson families, nothing at all to gain for PS9 families. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:57 PM Flag
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np: Anderson administration hates the sibling preference for A siblings, there is no way they would support it for PS9 siblings, they'd scream bloody murder if that was to happen. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.27.08, 06:16 AM Flag
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Most A families aren't even eligible for PS9 placement. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 06:24 PM Flag
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geographically? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 06:26 PM Flag
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well, prior to this year, many who got into anderson did not have high enogh scores to get into ps9, except off the w/ late in the game. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:50 PM Flag
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That's not really what I was talking about. The majority of A families now come outside of D3 and therefore are not at all eligible for PS9 placement. I can't see DOE changing that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:54 PM Flag
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The majority of families at the whole school? Really? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:59 PM Flag
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In the lower grades, which are the ones with eligible siblings. The older grades are more UWS/D3 centric, as the school's popularity outside of district shot up hugely once they opened their middle school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:01 PM Flag
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So K-5 families are mostly coming from outside D3? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:08 PM Flag
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given that greatest number of high scorers come from D2/D3, and anderson is most geographically desirable for D3 kids, I predict that majority will come from there. the onsite was used to make it more diverse, but the scores and logistics will bring it to where it has always been [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:00 PM Flag
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I don't know, I predict the 'lottery' will try to make is somewhat diverse once again. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:02 PM Flag
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More diverse, but not necessarily from outside D3 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:08 PM Flag
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np: That's not true at all. Why would you even post that? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:59 PM Flag
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Right, you can't apply to PS9 at all unless you live in D3. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 07:53 PM Flag
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Think about it from the perspective of a family already bringing their child to Anderson from say, Queens. Child number 2 scores, say a 96 olsat. What is this poor family going to do. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:04 PM Flag
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Send that child to a G&T in Queens, or a gen ed there. This is the reality now, the majority of A kids have siblings elsewhere. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:06 PM Flag
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how can they possibly pick both children up from school? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:08 PM Flag
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Most kids take the bus to school and back home again. No problem. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:09 PM Flag
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I was led to believe that busing was only available to families in Manhattan. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:14 PM Flag
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I meant the kid going local. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:20 PM Flag
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Sorry. Don't follow?? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:23 PM Flag
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I mean. Busing is only available in Manhattan, so how can a family from Queens possibly deal with picking one child up at Anderson and another in Queens? Seems impossible. It seems like they'd have to pull #1 out of A...sad. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:34 PM Flag
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as a ps9 parent, I'd be willing to give them sib preference at our school, if they make a fair trade and take the same number of ps9 kids preferentially who make the cutoff [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:46 PM Flag
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I hope that DOE will be as generous as you! It's a tough situation! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:49 PM Flag
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No it is not. A never had a sibling preference so families going there knew exactly what they were getting into, and need to have planned for it. No need to screw D3 kids over this. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.27.08, 06:12 AM Flag
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How would it be screwing D3 kids if the sib pref went both ways. I would think that it would actually benefit them in terms of A admissions. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.27.08, 06:40 AM Flag
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But it will not go both ways. A is adamant about sibling preference undermining the school to begin with, they finally managed to get rid of the PS9 preference for MS a couple years ago and the last thing they want to do is to go back to that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.27.08, 06:47 AM Flag
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Well, perhaps the DOE has the opportunity now to create more good will between the two schools. BTW I am not invested in either school...just responding to the above posts. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.27.08, 07:41 AM Flag
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Explain how it would work the other way in a way that would be equitable and wouldn't screw D3.Currently only some of A kids come from D3. Therefore if you only give D3 priority for 9 you are not giving equitable treatment to all A sibs. But if you open 9 to non D3 you are screwing D3 out of seats in their district program (the most desirable one too) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.27.08, 07:56 AM Flag
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There is usually a mom and a dad who could split up those responsibilities. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.27.08, 07:58 AM Flag
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Wasn't there some controversy about the availability of G&T K programs in Queens? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:18 PM Flag
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^^Oops. Hit enter too soon. I think that it would be amazing for DOE to accommodate this type of situation. I do realize that there are families living in district 3 who need spaces for their children, but I suppose I can appreciate how difficult the decisions will be for the DOE. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.26.08, 08:07 PM Flag
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All of this would be a lot easier to swallow if they hadn't gone down to 1 G&T class at 9. It is arguably the best G&T in district 3 and if they allow double sibling preference (A & 9) then they will be in a position of accepting only about 10 new families. To accommodate the A sibs they should go back to 2 G&Ts and then everyone will be happy. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.27.08, 05:57 AM Flag
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Actually no, A would be very much up in the arms about 2 G&Ts at PS9 if it means losing space for specialty rooms, which would likely happen if not this year than next for sure. There is not enough space for all in the building. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.27.08, 06:14 AM Flag
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Then A families can't have their cake and eat it too. If the siblings did not qualify for Anderson even given the sibling preference then they need to step to the back of the line for 9 G&T just like everyone else. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.27.08, 06:35 AM Flag
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A administration is totally against the sibling preference across the board, so they could not care less. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.27.08, 06:38 AM Flag
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Fact of life is that in NYC many siblings attend different schools. Hunter has no sibling preference and most siblings go elsewhere. One kid qualifies for G&T another doesn't. Parents choose single sex private schools knowing they have kids of different genders, etc. Families need to work it out. It is nice the DOE is trying to accommodate most families, but how many exceptions should they be expected to make? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.27.08, 06:42 AM Flag
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ITTTA. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.27.08, 06:48 AM Flag
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ITA too. the schools are different -- they share space, but the admissions are completely different, as are the administrations. i actually think giving D3 kids preference to anderson screws all the other kids who qualify who live outside D3. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.27.08, 08:32 AM Flag
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actually the schools are very very similar. ps9 has more of a community responsibility thing, given the gen ed aspect, but otherwise the schools share the specials teachers and in the lower grades have a very similar curriculum 9although anderson is accelerated in math) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 05.29.08, 09:03 PM Flag
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