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09.06.19, 02:31 AM General Topics
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What is a demanding enough schedule for a public junior? How many APs? [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
General Topics 09.06.19, 02:31 AM Flag
 

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don't listen to all these freaks. DC just started working in admissions in a top LAC (where he graduated) says 7 all told is just fine (preferably with 5s!). Do not listen to these freaks whose kids have 15. DC says admissions people want strong students who have taken lots of tough classes, but they get kind of skeeved at the profusion of kids who are too grindy (his pet peeve: kids who get 1560 SAT and insist on taking it again. He NEVER recommends those kids). He likes kids who find a way to take college classes, especially weird, challenging ones. And he loves when those profs send a "This kids blew away my freshman." Makes sense. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 04:23 AM Flag
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When DCs are applying to college, they likely will not have their AP scores yet (at least for their senior classes) so their scores are irrelevant. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 05:18 AM Flag
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He has knowledge of one school, and a liberal arts college which is different than a major research university. Some schools will prefer the kid who has taken over 10, but it depends on if they really have taken advantage of their curriculum or not. It's different if you take 7 on your own when your school doesn't offer any when your school has every AP subject and you've only taken 7 and want to go to an Ivy. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 03:03 PM Flag
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How do you get 7 ? DC in 10th grade and taking one only so 3 each for 11th and 12th ? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 04:51 AM Flag
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Take the most challenging course load available at your school, but you also want to make sure that you can get top grades in all of your classes. My junior is taking 2 APs. That is the maximum permitted for juniors at her school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 11:16 AM Flag
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That's great for your kid but some schools don't have that restriction (he hence the kids with 17 APs). The most challenging course. oad at your school can be too much. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 11:28 AM Flag
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Good reason not to send your kid to schools with no limits. Period. If poss. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.07.19, 07:07 PM Flag
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De[pends on how many your school offers. If they only offer 5, then taking 5 is great. If they offer 15, then 5 isn't so good. Dd had 9, all 5s, in a school that offered almost every AP, but restricted students so they could take probably 11 at most if they were able to schedule it. Top scores and grades and didn't get into any ivy. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 12:35 PM Flag
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Yet can place out of half of their distribution requirements and graduate almost a year early if they want to. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 12:35 PM Flag
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What were SAT scores? How did you not at least get Cornell? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 01:42 PM Flag
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1570. Wl at Cornell. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 02:34 PM Flag
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I’m sorry I don’t buy this. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 03:17 PM Flag
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Do you have little kids or something? If you have kids in hs, look at Naviance and it will be right there on the scattergrams. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 03:19 PM Flag
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Avg SAT score for Cornell was 1550 last year. Chances of admission with perfect scores and grades was 43%. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 03:27 PM Flag
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Unfortunately these days many students have high scores and tests because of inflation (SAT I is much easier to get a 1500 now than it was 20 years ago). Schools are looking for a hook - do they have a special talent, are they an athlete, do they have a perspective or background that many other students don't have? There are thousands of students who graduate high school every year, and more of the world is applying to US colleges, and the first year class size of most Ivies has not expanded at all. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 03:08 PM Flag
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That is exactly what happened with dd. The number of APs doesn't matter all that much as long as it is above a certain threshold for the school to indicate a rigorous course-load. If you have the stats and don't have a hook, it is like a lottery. Sure, your odds are increased say from 5-10% to maybe 20-40% depending on the school, but they are still less than half (at least this is what I glean from prepscholar). I saw on some other UB post that the avg SAT score for Stuy is now 1496. With 850 kids per grade, this means that probably around 400 have scores > the ivy min of about 1530, yet maybe 125 go to ivy+MS and Cornell gets many of them. the rest of those kids do great, but are at UChicago, UMich, Carnegie Mellon, NYU, etc. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 03:17 PM Flag
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The ivy min is not 1530 please see below. 1530 probably isn’t even the average of kids that actually go to Cornell. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 04:50 PM Flag
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Guess you haven't done this yet. That is the min for UNHOOKED kids. The lower numbers are athletes, URMs, legacy etc. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 05:04 PM Flag
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And SUNY kids. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 05:07 PM Flag
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Most kids aren’t getting 1570 and top grades. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 03:18 PM Flag
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Most kids don't go to ivies either. Most kids who go to ivies are getting 1570 and top grades. What's your point? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 03:28 PM Flag
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If you look at the 25/75 for Cornell admissions it was 1490/1570. We all know that cornea yield is not super high, so when they present stars for admitted students they are significantly higher than for hose who actually attend. This is evidenced in the fact that 25% of the kids scored worse than 1390. 25%. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 04:21 PM Flag
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There is a typo. Should read 1390/1570. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 04:48 PM Flag
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Oy. And you don't seem to know how to read the CDS data either. 1390 is not the 25th %tile. You are adding up numbers that are not supposed to be added. If someone has a 710 math, they most likely don't have a 680 verbal. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 05:15 PM Flag
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Why’s that? It is a pretty close way to do it. You guys keep telling yourself you need a 1570 to get in an Ivy. You can look at the SAT ranges for accepted students for most of these schools and also the yields and you know there are tons of of kids there with SATs below 1500. And cornell is a big school 25% are not athletes. And to assume URMs all make up the low scores is really stupid. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 05:46 PM Flag
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Are you actually familiar with the process? Cornell has some SUNY schools. A large number of the spots go to hooked applicants. The ones left got to high scoring applicants. You can look at your school's Naviance to see how many high scoring high gpa kids get rejected by Cornell. What you post leads me to believe you don't have any experience with actually applying to college or Cornell. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 05:06 PM Flag
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Look at Dartmouth’s numbers then. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 05:46 PM Flag
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