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09.05.19, 20:10 PM General Topics
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Today I was observing my DC’s K class (mixed age 3-5) at a brand new school, and at the end of playground time outside, the teacher had a double-sink like thing, and told all the 22 kids to dip their hands in the same soap water and rinse in the same water, and wipe with 1 old towel with holes, 1 by 1. Isn’t it insanely unsanitary? Also my DC mentioned the other day they had snack outside, and they wiped the table and put food (apples and chips) DIRECTLY on the table. I’m wondering if I should bring this up or pull my DC out of this school. [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
General Topics 09.05.19, 08:10 PM Flag
 

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Wow, 3 year olds in Kindergarten? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.05.19, 08:13 PM Flag
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It’s a mixed-age class [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.05.19, 08:15 PM Flag
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Still, they must be highly gifted (at least you kid is) to be able to describe the unsanitary nature of snacks on a dirty table outside. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.05.19, 08:17 PM Flag
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Mine is 5 so not really! She likes everything clean. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.05.19, 08:26 PM Flag
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Then, pack some hand wipes for her. There are 21 other kids. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 12:42 AM Flag
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Reminds me of a mom and daughter I saw at a museum cafe...the daughter is eating her sandwich up to her mouth so her hands don't touch the table cause the mom says the tables are germy. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 12:43 AM Flag
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lol [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.05.19, 09:06 PM Flag
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I bet that this class has the fewest absences because the teacher is exposing them to germs -- good for her! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.05.19, 08:28 PM Flag
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This is really crazy. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.05.19, 08:28 PM Flag
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And I don't care if kids wash their hands before snack or not, but the putting food directly on the tables? I just can't go there. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.05.19, 08:29 PM Flag
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Yes and it’s OUTSIDE. it’s so scary. Should I pull DC out? Or at least discuss this w the teachers? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.05.19, 08:31 PM Flag
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I don't think it is scary but I think the school doesn't meet the threshold of my already lax cleanliness standards. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.05.19, 08:51 PM Flag
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I know. WWYD? Do I talk to the teacher, or the principal? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.05.19, 09:00 PM Flag
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just what is scary here? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.05.19, 09:08 PM Flag
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IT'S TERRIFYING!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.05.19, 10:40 PM Flag
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Scary??? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.05.19, 09:14 PM Flag
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Not scary. Nothing scary about it. You know in a few years, dc will drop something at a baseball game and you will likely brush it off and feed it to them. The faster you get from where you are to there, the happier everyone will be [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.05.19, 11:53 PM Flag
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Please. Were these tables used in a morgue? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 12:42 AM Flag
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you had me at mixed age in K. No 3 year old should be in a K class. And that sounds disgusting. This cant be a decent school. I'd be OUT [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.05.19, 08:32 PM Flag
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Mixed age K is not a bad thing. I’ve seen reputable schools with mixed age K. The sanitation situation concerns me more [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.05.19, 08:35 PM Flag
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Mixed age K should be 5 and up. Not 3 and 4 year olds. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 03:10 PM Flag
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This. This is very strange [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.05.19, 09:46 PM Flag
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Montessori groups by 3 years, so a 3 year old will be working on his/her own, but will also have the benefit of seeing and being mentored by older kids. Maria Montessori won the Nobel Prize for her work. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 12:41 AM Flag
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My kids go to a mixed age Montessori (age 3-6), and the 5-6 year olds are considered kindergarteners and have some separate items on their curriculum. But it is never collectively referred to as "mixed age kindergarten." [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 03:10 PM Flag
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what school? (checks wait list) Definitely pull. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.05.19, 09:07 PM Flag
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Every single blessed school, public or private, SS or co-ed, is a germ vector. Deal with it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.05.19, 09:17 PM Flag
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x1,000. At our public they go to recess then to lunch, no hand washing. I think the above method is at least something. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.05.19, 09:34 PM Flag
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yes, but if OP can't handle it and my DC is top of school wait list, would love if OP pulled as I have no trouble moving my grimy, germy squirmy DC into that class. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 02:20 PM Flag
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It wouldn't fly with me (former PreK teacher). She should get a bench step so they can all stand at the sink. If they want to maximize time (which is what I guess this is about), She can walk around with a pitcher of clean water--get each kid to hold their hands out--later they get a squirt of soap--lather and then she can walk around again and pour water onto their hands. Or line them up in groups and do the hand wash. It's a PITA of course but has to be done. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.05.19, 09:17 PM Flag
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These kids don't have leprosy. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 12:40 AM Flag
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Lol. Troll [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.05.19, 09:24 PM Flag
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Seriously, what school has an actual towel? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.05.19, 09:35 PM Flag
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No true story. The teacher has tattoos all over which I didn’t like either. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.05.19, 09:58 PM Flag
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Lol. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.05.19, 10:41 PM Flag
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NP: You cannot be a real person. You're taking issue with the tattoos? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 02:57 AM Flag
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nnp. My DC's preschool teacher had two full sleeves of tattoos. She was the best preschool teacher ever -- the child whisperer. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 12:47 PM Flag
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Definitely pull kid out of school for washing hands in the same sink. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.05.19, 09:32 PM Flag
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For sure! It's the absolute worst thing possible. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.05.19, 10:42 PM Flag
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hold up. Can someone explain how a 3 year old is in K? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.05.19, 09:47 PM Flag
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It’s common especially in Montessori schools etc. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.05.19, 09:58 PM Flag
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in other words, common in school where they dont have high benchmarks for kindergartners. Also, a reputable school should have more applicants/registrants than spots. If you have to fill the slots with 3 year olds, you are running a daycare/pre-K/K. Completely different developmentally. No 3 yaer old would be expected to learn the same as a 5 year old. Everyone i know who went to a Montessori school is BARELY EDUCATED. They even apologize for it in conversation "oops, you know, "montessori". Serious;y [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.05.19, 11:02 PM Flag
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Sure. Lol. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.05.19, 11:19 PM Flag
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If you don’t know the Montessori system, just keep your ignorance to yourself [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.05.19, 11:56 PM Flag
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meanwhile, your kids are experts at blocks but cant read by the end of K [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 12:02 AM Flag
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Lol, my kid was able to read at three and yes montessori [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 12:21 AM Flag
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Your child could read prior to Montessori, not because of it [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 01:42 AM Flag
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Well, I guess cause you know everything... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 12:49 PM Flag
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Montessori doesn't start before three.... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 03:15 PM Flag
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exactly. her child could read prior to montessori, yet thats the proof that montessori is academically rigorous. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 04:50 PM Flag
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You clearly know nothing about Montessori. The founders of Google credit their Montessori education for the creativity behind google. And, Finland, which has the best educational outcomes in the world doesn't start reading till age 7. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 12:39 AM Flag
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Do you know any adults who attended Montessori school? Their education is lacking. It just is. I know many and they all say the same. The schools have definite strengths but something has to give. It’s not rigorous academically. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 01:44 AM Flag
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Please. Google "Montessori graduates". The list is impressive. Maria Montessori was awarded the Nobel Prize for her work. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 12:47 PM Flag
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I don't know a single Montessori kid who hasn't gone onto a top tier college and graduate school. Academic rigor has come to mean loading up on a crushing load of classes and being a grind...real rigor is being able to pursue learning independently, which is exactly that nature of education at the highest levels. American parents have been sold this crock about education. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 12:48 PM Flag
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not my experience. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 04:51 PM Flag
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Trying googling Montessori graduates. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 08:17 PM Flag
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NP: You clearly know nothing about Montessori. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 12:37 AM Flag
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My kids go to a mixed age Montessori (age 3-6), and the 5-6 year olds are considered kindergarteners and have some separate items on their curriculum. But it is never collectively referred to as "mixed age kindergarten." [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 03:11 PM Flag
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Same. There are preschoolers and there are kindergarteners, and they are all in the same classroom. The older kids do "mentor" the younger kids to an extent, but the kindergarteners have separate curriculum as well. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 03:15 PM Flag
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I wouldn’t think twice about this. I would say the school and you aren’t a match, but see if your dc likes it. If s.he does then let it gooo let it goooo [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.05.19, 11:52 PM Flag
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Please. Children need to be exposed to germs. Have read about antibiotic resistance? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.05.19, 11:57 PM Flag
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So you would like one teacher to fill up the sink for 22 separate kids, or have 22 individual kids wash their hands under running water...do you realize how much splashing and mess that would make with 22 3 to 5 year olds? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 12:37 AM Flag
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Our kids were in Montessori (I'm assuming this is OP's situation). These kids were the healthiest of all cause they are constantly being exposed to the real environment rather than some sterile bubble. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 12:44 AM Flag
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Are there bird droppings on the table? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 12:51 AM Flag
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none of this would freak me out but my Kindergartner is getting cheese-its for snack and THAT is freaking me out [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 02:24 AM Flag
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I think OP is crazy but I'm with you 150%. Slice a damn apple! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 02:58 AM Flag
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You are the reason that the rest of us don't get to observe our kids' classes. Parents who nitpick over the most random things!! Donate some extra hand towels if this is your chief concern. For heavens sake. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 02:59 AM Flag
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This. Or donate some hand sanitizer made by Belgian nuns from pure organic ingredients in a recyclable bottle. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 12:35 PM Flag
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No, No, a thousand times NO! You have it all wrong about germs. There are HEALTHY germs. You are doing the children a disadvantage by having them wash away the good germs that will strengthen their immune systems. Constant cleaning and germophobia is increasing their likelihood of developing allergies. When's the last time you heard of a child dying because they played with a feather? Don't you understand that super MRSA originated in Japanese hospitals because they were overly clean? There is such a thing as being too clean and it is counterproductive and unhealthy! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 03:15 AM Flag
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Good hygiene is important, but being a germaphobe could be harmful to your health. While it is still crucial to always wash your hands with soap and water after using the restroom and before eating or preparing food, excessive hand-washing and hand sanitizer may do more harm than good. Some researchers believe hand sanitizer overuse may be causing children to lose the ability to build up resistance to bacteria. This is one growing theory about the increase in number of children with allergies and environmental sensitivities. Samer Blackmon, M.D., an internal medicine specialist at Piedmont, supports this theory. “By constantly using hand sanitizer, you eliminate the bacteria that helps build up your immune system, allowing antibiotic-resistant bugs to enter your system and make you very sick.” [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 03:18 AM Flag
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Yep, our kids rolled in dirt (and probably ate some), they are teens and I can count on the fingers of one hand how many times they've been sick. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 12:36 PM Flag
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Rolling in the dirt= good germs. Communal hand washing with little kids who have questionable hygiene= bad germs [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 04:53 PM Flag
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There are no good germs or bad germs. There are just germs. And being exposed to them isn't necessarily bad. But you're going to see the same e.coli and other coliform bacteria on unwashed preschool hands as you see in the dirt [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 05:24 PM Flag
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This. However, you should stop trying to bring science and rationality into this thread (chortle).. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 08:18 PM Flag
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Gross OP. I don't agree with most of the posters here. It's hard to "contain" germs in school (pre-K especially with so many toys and manipulatives), but they should at least try. Also, a good time to demonstrate independence in set care. This school may not be a good fit. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 07:04 PM Flag
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^^self^^ [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 07:05 PM Flag
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I am laughing so hard. I can't imagine having enough free time to consider pulling my kid out of a school for something like this. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 09.06.19, 07:54 PM Flag
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