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07.27.08, 07:27 AM NY Schools
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Just have to post this once (after reading post below about how adults react to where a child is going to school). There are smart kids at all schools. My DD got 99 OLSAT, SB and ERB and is going to 3rd tier ongoing for pre K in the fall. It's just how it worked out. We're not unhappy. [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
NY Schools 07.27.08, 07:27 AM Flag
 

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I really think that it is just the people on here who don't realize how great most of the so-called third-tier schools are - good for you. I am sure that you and dc will be very happy. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 07:29 AM Flag
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What are the 3rd tier schools? I know the TT 7 but past that, there is no set list. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 07:31 AM Flag
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There is a hierarchy of schools based on academic rigor that has existed forever [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 07:33 AM Flag
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Name names [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 07:42 AM Flag
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how long have you been here, the list is always the same. Chapin Spence Brearley Collegiate HM Trinity TT, second CSH, NBS St. Ds St. Bs, Buckley, 3rd MM Hewitt, Browning 4th BWL, etc [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 08:19 AM Flag
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So the only 2nd Tier schools are all single sex - Sacred Heart, Nightingale, St Davids, St Bernards & Buckley? What about Ethical Culture, Columbia Grammar, Friends, Grace, Town? 2nd or 3rd Tier? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 09:21 AM Flag
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fieldston and riverdale 2nd, Ethical, CG Friend Grace and Town 3rd tier [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 09:24 AM Flag
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Why would Fieldston Lower be 2nd tier and Ethical Culture 3rd tier? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 09:25 AM Flag
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OR above is making this up as she goes along [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 10:52 AM Flag
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Why is Dalton not even on the list? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.29.08, 06:27 PM Flag
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btw... dont only evaluate school by "reputation" some of the top tier school have familes with the poorest values.... be very careful...or you will end up with a kids with friends who you dont like [ Reply | More
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General Topics 10.23.08, 08:37 AM Flag
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well, it must be a school with a preK. think MM, CSH, ECFS, Bank St., CGPS, Trevor, Town, SHSH. Not sure if there are others. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 07:35 AM Flag
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Are all those schools 3rd tier schools? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 07:44 AM Flag
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downtown: Grace, St. Luke's, Little Red, City and Country, and Corlears all have preK [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 07:51 AM Flag
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you will notice the reactions. hard to imagine it won't bug you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 07:30 AM Flag
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And I'll bet that you'll try to apply out to a TT K next year. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 07:30 AM Flag
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What does that have to do with people reacting badly or well to the name of a school? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 07:32 AM Flag
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of course. It's like 450 kids who got 99 olsat and didn't all get placed in Anderson. Kids who got accepted to Anderson are not smarter than those who didn't get in with the same 99 score. But peoeple know, as nonsibs, Anderson kids who got in have 99. Other kids with 99 don't have a 99 label on their heads so nobody will know. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 07:34 AM Flag
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The same has always been true of Anderson. Not every 99 got in. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 07:43 AM Flag
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This year, though, is diff. Non sibs; only 99 got in but not all 99 did. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 07:46 AM Flag
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But that would only affect the 50 kids who got in. The hundreds who didn't get in are in the same boat as the hundreds/thousands who didn't get in previously. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 07:51 AM Flag
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before, people would hold up making it through the onsite as the proof of their kids' genius. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 07:54 AM Flag
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Not really, most always knew it was luck of the draw. And it still is, more qualified kids than spots. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.28.08, 06:37 AM Flag
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we dropped a lower tieer school for anderson. I did worry about the academics and peer group. In the back of my mind, I also didn't like the reactions of people when I said the name of the lower tier school. would not have dropped it for that reason, but I did think people thought we ended up there because of something negative about us since dc is obviously extremely smart. they must have been thinking we were major pitas, or dc was. both are sort of true too. glad to shed the yoke of the lower tier [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 07:42 AM Flag
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Will your dc be starting A in Sept.? Mine will and we are basically in the same situation as you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 07:46 AM Flag
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I know what you mean. It feels better to have people wonder about you when you say the name of a good school vs a lesser school. if you say dalton or anderson, people react differntly than if you say ps163 or trevor. jsut the way it is in nyc. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 07:51 AM Flag
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np - I don't really know how many people know Anderson. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 07:53 AM Flag
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you would be surprised. perhaps in the day of UB, it is better known even among private school people. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 07:55 AM Flag
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I never heard of it until UB but its been around forever I am told. All that says to me is that before media like this site it was not impressive enough to be known by anyone whose dc didn't get to H or a TT private [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 08:32 AM Flag
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anderson is only about 20 years old. you are likely old, and it was starting when you were away at college. now you are an old mom with young kids, and like all the other old moms, have logged onto UB to get info and flex your pathetic muscles. now you have heard of anderson in your 40s. so now you are in the know. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 10:37 AM Flag
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I see you must be one of these crazed Anderson mothers. I am not an old mom, young mom, here and in school when it would have been created, and no. NEVER HEARD OF IT [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 10:58 AM Flag
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it was not well known when first created, but I doubt you are all that young. Most UB moms are rarely younger than late 30s from what I can tell, unless they live in a trailer park in montana and frequent toddler. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 12:02 PM Flag
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np: lol! most are pushing 45-50 with K applicants! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 12:06 PM Flag
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np: I am in Manhattan, have been for 12 years, and I am 34 yo. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 07:25 PM Flag
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who cares? yes, anderson must be a crappy school if you have not heard of it! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 02:31 PM Flag
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And among those who do, wouldn't they wonder why dc isn't at Hunter? (just being snarky...) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 07:56 AM Flag
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I do but then I wonder which TT privates rejected every H dc [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 08:35 AM Flag
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More often than not, it's the opposite: TT dcs rejected by H. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 09:22 AM Flag
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uh huh. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 09:24 AM Flag
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It's sheer numbers. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 09:25 AM Flag
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we preferred anderson over hunter. preferred location, facilities, more traditional approach, k-8. Live closeby, 2 kids in the school. would not switch for anything. only ues private bound moms only know of hunter which they have sometimes chosen to apply to as a backup. now with all the private SOs, many will be applying to all selective publics, and most will get neither H/A. most will be lucky to het 3rd choice G&T [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 10:49 AM Flag
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Why would K-8 be preferable to K-12? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 11:24 AM Flag
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we want private for HS. could afford it now, but didn't have to, and getting a great education. anderson kids do well when they apply to private, so we felt it unnecessary for now. we are legs at a great coed, btw. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 12:05 PM Flag
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Are you high? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 08:44 AM Flag
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NP I never heard of it [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 08:47 AM Flag
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NP: It was always known by preschools (but they don't want families to apply out to publics) and those parents willing to do their education research. The school (then program) kept a low-profile for most of its years for fear of being eliminated by DOE during all these years of it not being politically correct to support gifted education. Once it became a school 4 years ago, it could become more visible because State law prevents elmininating schools (vs programs) unless there is poor performance - not an issue for Anderson. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.28.08, 06:21 AM Flag
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You sound like a horror show. I have to say, had never heard of Anderson before I started reading this board. (And in real life I don't know a soul who sends her child there.) I would not be impressed if you told me that your child went there, and I would not be unimpressed if you told me your child went to Trevor. You need to get out more. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.28.08, 07:18 PM Flag
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anderson is amazing school.. some of the most creative and interesting kids i know are there.. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 10.23.08, 08:39 AM Flag
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But you are applying out to TTs in the fall? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 07:47 AM Flag
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I doubt it. We took the ERBs just in case but at that point we didn't even know what was going to happen with G&Ts and Citywides. now that we're settled I don't think we would want to uproot our DD for another school unless we're really unhappy. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 09:27 AM Flag
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My dc is in a preK-8 school and kids are challenged academically. There are children graduating with all 9s on the ISEEs and I know they worked really hard throughout their time at the school. Many test into the selective public high schools. What I do see is a wider range of kids at the school, which is not a bad thing in my opinion. It's great for kids to see how people excel in different things: the person who is not the best at math may be a spectacular actor in the school play. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 08:00 AM Flag
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The last comment you made is true at any school, even the tippy-toppiest of schools. Not everyone excels at everything. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 09:24 AM Flag
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True. I will add that I've never seen a child counseled out of my dc's school for academic reasons, although parents have moved their children to some of the special learning schools after second and third grades. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 10:54 AM Flag
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that is what counseling out is. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 12:14 PM Flag
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np: Not really, counseling out is initiated by the school. Parent-initated switch (whether for higher tier, lower tier, public, or SN school) is not counseling out. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 12:45 PM Flag
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well you are lucky. my dcs attend a so-called 3rd tier private and several dcs were counseled out after first grade this year. They did not become good readers quickly enough. Teaching of reading supposedly started in grade 1, but in K everything was about writing and reading was required in a not so subtle way, even though they claimed it was not being taught. Then in first grade, by March, if kids were not reading very well they were sent off to a nearby special needs school. Not coincidentally the kids who were sent off were the youngest kids in the class. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 02:10 PM Flag
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By March of first grade, kids should be able to read. They probably do have some kind of LD and school did them a favor. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.28.08, 05:46 AM Flag
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np: She is posting it like it's age thing. Yet in my dc's public school kids are even younger than that and everyone read by beg of first grade, including kids that weren't even 6 yet (my ds being one of them). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.28.08, 06:39 AM Flag
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my response about dcs getting the boot from our 3rd tier was in response to the suggestion this kind of thing only happens with tt schools. btw, I know other kids (not at our school) who went from being poor readers in first to being terrific readers in third grade. Some kids are not ready until age 7, sometimes even bc of visual motor reasons. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.29.08, 05:13 PM Flag
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We're not in NYC, so not as relevant. But we applied for DS to several prestigious private schools and he got waitlisted at all of them (he would be a disaster on this ERB thing--he's glacially slow to warm). We ended up going with our local public school and it's been totally wonderful--the perfect fit for him. We are thrilled. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 08:40 AM Flag
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You have a talent for the obvious. Seriously, everyone knows this. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 10:46 AM Flag
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np: Honestly, I am amazed people care so much. We have some people make face when they hear dc goes to public school, and frankly it amuses me. DC is doing great, loves schools and is looking forward to going every day. Why should I care what some near strangers think? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.27.08, 12:46 PM Flag
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I think you have to take it a couple steps more back. It is irritating that there is the need for a tier system. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.28.08, 06:30 AM Flag
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