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07.25.08, 07:16 AM Toddler
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What should I do? This a-hole parks his car in front of the hydrant outside my building every morning that he has to change for alternate side. He sits there for the whole 8:30 to 10:00 street cleaning period and he is a JERK. I want him to stop parking there and blocking the hydrant. I called the local precinct and they said call highway safety after 3 PM. I doubt anyone will really do anything. [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
Toddler 07.25.08, 07:16 AM Flag
 

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why do you care? just curious [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:17 AM Flag
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1. He's rude to me and my kids and he's outside my home ruining my morning. 2. He's blocking the fire hydrant that the fire department would need to acess if my home were on fire. 3. He won't move for moving vans, deliveries, garbage trucks or any of the other business that goes on in the street on my block. So I care because he's rude, dangerous and inconvenient. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:19 AM Flag
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An apartment building or a private house? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:21 AM Flag
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Brownstone with 3 apartments inside. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:21 AM Flag
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are you the owner? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:23 AM Flag
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I own my apartment, not the other 3. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:24 AM Flag
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WHY IS THIS POST ON NY SCHOOLS? SERIOUSLY, YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS PARKING IN THE WRONG SPOT HERE. MOVE IT TO THE BOARDS THAT LOOK FOR MAURY POVITCH TYPE PROBLEMS. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 12:31 PM Flag
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Funny! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 01:02 PM Flag
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agreed [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 01:24 PM Flag
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true. her entitlement is dripping all over this post, but you wouldn't have to read through it to know that. its apparent just by the fact that she posted to schools. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 01:40 PM Flag
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OP: Hey, now! Public school mom here who dreams of the day I can be entitled to anything! I just posted on schools because it's the best place to get the most responses from New Yorkers. New York board is slow. Sorry to offen. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 06:46 PM Flag
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np: If he is in the car he would move for a fire truck. Just ignore him. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:21 AM Flag
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if he is truly parked, i.e. he leaves the car unattended, then he is breaking the law and endangering lives in the event of a fire. if he is standing, i.e. in the car, there is nothing you can do. you can't make him leave b/c he is "ruining your morning." [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:22 AM Flag
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No, it's illegal to idle in front of a hydrant. He is creating a safety hazard and he could get a ticket and be asked to move. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:28 AM Flag
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he's not idling. he has parked there during alternate side parking (happens every day all over the city) and turns of his engine [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:45 AM Flag
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Don't talk to him, ignore him and move on. I think you're fixating on something that won't change and will only make you upset. If he's in the car he'll move if there was a fire and no one else should part there anyway. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:22 AM Flag
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what is the difference in a moving van parked outside your home, or a delivery truck parked outside your home in the exact same spot? Sounds like you just don't like him. I'd let this one go. He is not causing you any harm - and if the fire truck pulls up either he will move his car or they will run the hose the both back windows while he sits there (saw them to that to a car with no driver) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:24 AM Flag
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In my neighborhood people are considerate. If a delivery truck needs to pull over quickly, you move your car for 2 secs. You double park for a moment, let the delivery or pick up happen, then pull back into the spot. A van or truck can't double park because they will block traffic but a passenger car can. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:30 AM Flag
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are you the OP? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:32 AM Flag
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No. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:33 AM Flag
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I wouldn't move if I were sitting there. I'd be afraid that I'd be blocking the street, get screamed at, have to drive around the block and then lose my spot. op is a freak. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 01:45 PM Flag
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OP: That's not the situation here. There is room for a passenger car to pull over next to a parked car without blocking traffic. And no one would scream at anyone. Besides, if you are so afraid of being yelled at you shouldn't be parking in front of a hydrant! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 06:49 PM Flag
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you realize that if your home actually WAS on fire he would either be forced to move or the FD would put the hose through his windows. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:38 AM Flag
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I'm sure she does, but is sounds so much better to envoke the "my house will burn down" image. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:40 AM Flag
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seriously. She needs to get over it - or, next time the traffic cops come down her street to give tickets to people who DON'T move their cars, she should talk to them and see if they can ticket this guy [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:43 AM Flag
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np: I love when they do that! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:40 AM Flag
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I saw it once. It was a trip! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:43 AM Flag
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because he is blocking the hydrant that would be used to put out a fire if there were on in her building. sheesh [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:20 AM Flag
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this is silly, he's sitting in the car. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:25 AM Flag
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what difference does it make? he's in the car the entire time??? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:18 AM Flag
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He won't move itl. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:19 AM Flag
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^^^Sorry, I pressed enter by accident. He is a jerk and won't move his car for anything. My neighbor is elderly and was being picked up by the elder-van and he wouldn't pull out of the spot to let the van pick her up curb side. I had a bed delivered and he wouldn't pull out to let the truck drop off the boxes for 5 minutes. Imagine if it were a real emergency! He's in front of the hydrant! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:21 AM Flag
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your bed delivery truck has no business parking in front of fire hydrant! Pot calling the kettle black to me [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:26 AM Flag
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OP: No way. Dropping something off and then moving on is entirely different then parking for 2 hours. I have no problem with the garbage man or Fresh Direct guy pulling over with the hazards on and dropping somethign off or picking something up. This guy is parked for 2 hours with the ignition off refusing to move. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:32 AM Flag
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but he is harming NOTHING by doing this. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:44 AM Flag
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Well that's not true. He IS harming something. He's an unwelcome and uncooperative force on the street of a very nice neighborhood. He's without consideration and he is getting in people's way with no care for others. It might not be illegal but it's not harmless and it's not the way to behave. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:20 AM Flag
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you sound like an unwelcome force in the nabe. seriously crazy and entitled. harassing people who don't get out of your way. yikes. its frightening. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 01:41 PM Flag
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OP: That wasn't me and I never harassed anyone. I asked him nicely once if he would please use one of the many other spots on the block that are not hydrant zones, and I once asked him if he would pull out for a quick sec and then he could have his spot back. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 06:48 PM Flag
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but yet you remain fixated on him, and are trying to figure out ways to harass him. you even went to the police. I think you did this because you couldn't take that he did not accomodate you. classic narcissism [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:50 PM Flag
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Are you sure you aren't just projecting your own qualities and tendancies here? No where in the post does it say "fixating" or "going to the police". Calling in a neighborhood parking violation is hardly narcissism. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 11:10 PM Flag
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You honestly think he wouldn't move it if there was a fire? You could speak face to face with the officer who comes by to ticket. I have certainly seen them threaten folks with tickets if they don't move. None of the other vehicles are supposed to be there either. Usually a sanitation officer sticks those awful stickers on windows of cars that block the truck. But, dear, it does sound as if you've got a beef that's wasting your energy and is not connected to any real danger. Just ignore him. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:24 AM Flag
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If he's in his car he is not parked therefore he's not breaking any law. If his engine is running the whole time he is breaking the law. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:20 AM Flag
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Not true. It's illegal to idle in a fire hydrant zone. People often pull over quickly to drop off or pick up because it's often the only way to function in this city but you can't park there for 2 hours and refuse to move. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:23 AM Flag
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It's illegal to idle anywhere. That alone is supposed to get you a ticket for several hundred dollars. That said, move on! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:26 AM Flag
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i don't think that's true. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:30 AM Flag
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Yup. One of Bloomberg's newer 'green' laws. You can see signs posted througout the city if you keep your eyes open. He was particularly concerned about tour buses and livery cars but the rule applies to everyone. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:32 AM Flag
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So there you go, OP, call the police and he should get a ticket. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:34 AM Flag
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she said he's not idling [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:45 AM Flag
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§ 24-163 Operation of motor vehicle; idling of engine restricted. (a) No person shall cause or permit the engine of a motor vehicle, other than a legally authorized emergency motor vehicle, to idle for longer than three minutes while parking as defined in section one hundred twenty-nine of the vehicle and traffic law, standing as defined in section one hundred forty-five of the vehicle and traffic law, or stopping as defined in section one hundred forty-seven of the vehicle and traffic law, unless the engine is used to operate a loading, unloading or processing device. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:35 AM Flag
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OR AGAIN: I just looked it up: I was wrong. In NYC it is legal to load or unload packages at curbside and to drop off or pick up passengers but IT IS NOT LEGAL to "wait" in a no parking zone. The 30' stretch at a fire hydrant is a no parking zone by definition (15 ft on either side). So, by a strict definition -- this guy is breaking the law. I'd still find something else to worry about but you certainly have a legal argument. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:39 AM Flag
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call 311 every time it happens. they keep a record. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:20 AM Flag
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take your key and write "move your car" in the paint. ha! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:22 AM Flag
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really bad advice. Pick your battles op - this one is not going to harm you, just let it go. Life is too short. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:27 AM Flag
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ita. it's just bothering you in principle. which is pretty silly, imo. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:29 AM Flag
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Maybe this will put things in perspective: I really hate on of the men who works in my building (for reasons too long to even start to explain here). Every morning I would see him out front or in the lobby cleaning. I used to complain everytime he even looked at me the wrong way, let alone when I saw him doing something he was not supposed to do. Finally I realized that he was taking up more energy than he is worth, that I was getting nowhere with my complaints, and that I am a far better off person in my life than he is. Now I just chuckle when I see him scraping gum off the sidewalk and I pretend he is some stranger on the street. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:29 AM Flag
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Lovely, chuckling at the mere working class. May you be sentenced to scrape gum in your next life. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:33 AM Flag
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I know, I know. The guy is just a real a-hole and has caused me more grief than you can imagine. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:35 AM Flag
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I haven't spoken to my super in 12 years. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:37 AM Flag
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Do you tip at xMas? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:38 AM Flag
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$5. All other workers get $20 to $70 based on level of service provided. These guys have excellent pension and health by the way - a great union!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:40 AM Flag
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OR: We give between 50 and 100 to all the other building employees and gave nothing to this one this year. We handed out the envelopes to a few others while he was in the lobby. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:43 AM Flag
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just wondering what is up with your attitude toward the super? honestly... you people suck [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:53 AM Flag
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NP. What do you know what happened between the poster and her super? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 01:03 PM Flag
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np, and that thought crossed my mind too - but responder was trying to be helpful and in shorthand told op how she handled a similar situation, so I let it go. These minor annoyances are just not worth the mental energy. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:36 AM Flag
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OR here: I also did not tell you why I hate him. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:37 AM Flag
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And I completely respect the other men in our building. It's just him. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:39 AM Flag
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but it sounds like you harassed him, and that is weird. Op is harassing this guy, and I can see why he is returning just to annoy her. It is weird when people get fixated on anyone person to this extent. almost stalker like. OP and you need to get a life. regardless of what the person is doing that sort of rage and harassment is just plain pathological. signed psych mom. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 12:22 PM Flag
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Psych mom, I appreciate your concern but honestly I hope you don't impost these kind of uninformed assumptions on your patients. I can assure you there is no rage, fixation or harassment happening here. Just a mean guy who I would prefer not to have blocking the fire hydrant in front of my home. That's all. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 06:51 PM Flag
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I doubt you ever tried to park a car with alternate side of the street parking. Its hard. Its almost like a second job. The guy probably works nights, is hot and tired and just trying to survive like most of us. I doubt you are a ray of sunshine towards him either. Usually these encounters are a two way street. So you COULD sit there with a video camera and get him, his plate and his car for the entire time and trot off to the police station - but that sort of thing sometimes gets people killed - and I"m not sure that would be worth it. Or you could just breath, put it in perspective and go about enjoying your life and your children. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:39 AM Flag
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If he cannot follow the rules he should not be driving a car. Being exhausted and tired is no excuse of breaking a law. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:55 AM Flag
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you are a freak lady. put this on watch, and then come back to it tomorrow and you will see that most people disagree with your perspective. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 02:46 PM Flag
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OP: That was not me saying he should not be driving a car. I don't even have a "reply" button under that post. I had to reply below. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 06:52 PM Flag
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can you see his car from your window? If so, throw eggs at his car. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:41 AM Flag
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I didn't know teenagers wee on this board. You and the "keying" poster above should get together and t.p. a crack house! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:44 AM Flag
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I didn't know such humorless people were on this board. Chill out. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:49 AM Flag
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This is for poster above (no reply button after your post for some reason). Hey , I get it. I personally had to give up having a car in the city when my daughter started school because I no longer can do alternate side and still get her to school in the mornings. It still doesn't give him the right to block a hydrant. EVERY SINGLE TIME. It's not like one day there were not spots so he had to go to the hydrant. It's ever week. there could be other spots open and he picks the hydrant spot. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:55 AM Flag
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have you ever considered he might have a compulsive disorder? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:55 AM Flag
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How is he rude to you? Do you speak to him? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:44 AM Flag
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The day my daughter's bed was being delivered, I went up to his car. The truck was waiting and I was there with my infant and 4 year old and he was on the cell phone. He ignored me and gave me the "on sec" finger for 5 minutes while we all waited. Then he rolled down his window about 2 inches only and said "What do you want?" i said "Excuse me sir, but I'm having a piece of furniture delivered to this building and I was hoping you could move your car up for a moment and let the truck unload." he said "No, this is where I park." So I said, "It would only be for a seccond to let the guys unload my daughter's bed and then youcould have the spot back. It's not a legal spot anyway." and he said, "No, I park here. I always park here." and he rolled up his window again. He's there two or three times a week. So one day I stopped and said, "You know, there is a lot of space to wait on this side of the street. Would you mind not blocking the hydrant? There are families that live in this building with children." and he ignored me. So I said, "Sir, did you hear me?" and he said, "Get the hell out of here. Get your kids the hell out of here." [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:49 AM Flag
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just get OVER it already. Geez, move on! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 07:54 AM Flag
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ita. and, as someone who lives and works in alternate side neighborhoods, i have a lot of sympathy for this guy. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:00 AM Flag
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as do I. And yes, I've had some rude people I've encountered, and yes, there are some chronically bad people doing this, but I don't let it ruin my day or my life! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:01 AM Flag
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me too! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:12 AM Flag
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O)P: Hey, I was just answering the question! It's not like I think about this all day or anything. It's been going on for months and I just now posted. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:22 AM Flag
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Wait. So, it is okay for the van to block the hydrant? That's even worse because a) it's a bigger vehicle and b) the driver won't be close to the van while unloading the furniture. I think vans and trucks double-parking are the worst. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 01:51 PM Flag
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OP: No, you're wrong. They needed to pull in for 5 minutes to unload the boxes onto the sidewalk. There were three workers, two to put the bed together and one to drive the car. They didn't need to park, they needed to unload and that is the area in front of the door to the building. The hydrant. Even if there was no hydrant we would have asked "please pull out for 5 minutes and then back right back in". We just had to get the boxes out of the truck and onto the sidewalk. This guy sits for 2 hours refusing to move, several times a week. directly in front of the house in a no parking zone blocking a hydrant. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 06:55 PM Flag
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I live in a building with no loading zone in front. It has never been a problem having furniture delivered. Why would you want to block a fire hydrant with a delivery truck anyway? That's way more dangerous when your house burns down while you're all inside anyway. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 09:49 PM Flag
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OP: I don't understand your post. you just said it has been no problem unloading in front of your building? I am talking about the exact same thign here. And if you read my post you would see that the van would not be unattended. The driver was going to stay behind the wheel. There were 2 guys to unload, plus me. They merely needed to pull over, open the door, put the boxes on the sidewalk and drive away. How are we "all" going to be inside??? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 11:13 PM Flag
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I don't think she should get over it, I completely agree with her. He's breaking the law and rude about it at the same time. What right does he have to be there? NONE Call 311 everyday to report it and they will eventually do something about it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 08:06 AM Flag
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What right does he have to be parked on a public street? C'mon now... I mean there is no excuse for being an asshole but this does not have the tone of a post from a stable, aggrieved innocent. And I'll bet without researching it, most NYers would think that if you stay with your car, you are more than ok waiting at a hydrant. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 11:49 AM Flag
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You could call in a fake fire to your house from a pay phone and have them ticket his ass. Just kidding of course. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 12:01 PM Flag
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His being there is illegal, thus he has NO right to be there. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 12:07 PM Flag
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and OP is out of control she is a control freak, and enraged ecause someone didn't do what she asked. now she is wasting the time of the NYPD and looking for others to involve for a petty grievance. She sounds seriously disturbed, and needs to get some perspective. It is truly a sign of her pathology that she has let it get to this point. I work with these types all the time, and I can tell you, she has a problem, and its not just the guy in the car. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 12:29 PM Flag
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^^^ this poster is not the poster of "What right..." post. (That was me.) I agree with above though. I mean when you have a block of double parked cars in Brownstone Brooklyn 'cause of alternate side reg.s it is pretty hard to rationally argue that this one guy is such a danger to society that the NYPD ought to get involved. NYC is hard enough to live in. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 01:01 PM Flag
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And you're trying to be the owner of the street, in front of a building, in which you own an apt, to which you have no legal right. Yet Another complaining, entitled person whom is not from nyc, is all you could possibly be. If he's chapping your ass- then quit riding on his presence, call 311 and ask to be connected to the non-emergency number for the FDNY in your precinct. Tell them about it; they may be able to help- I just hope they aren't dealing w/your petty annoyance when a real fire breaks out. You sound like the nut here. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 01:39 PM Flag
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Have you tried focusing on a real problem? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 06:54 PM Flag
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Similarly have you tried getting a life, or perhaps a submachine gun might suit your personality better :-) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 09:38 PM Flag
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Where the hell are you people getting this? It's a simple post on UB. I walked away and didn't even think about it until signing back on here and seeing the drama. Get over it! I have a beef with a guy parking in front of a hydrant! It's not ruining my day, don't let it ruin yours! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 11:15 PM Flag
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