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07.24.08, 09:09 AM NY Schools
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long shot - anyone on who lives in north park slope or prospect heights? considering moving there and wondering where dcs would go to elementary. insideschools says the publics aren't great. [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
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we lived in Prospect Heights for 8 years, and moved into Manhattan because the publics aren't good. North Slope is zoned for 321, which is good but crowded. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 09:12 AM Flag
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^^^I should add that parts of the North Slope, closer to Flatbush Ave, are zoned for a different elementary school which isn't good. Your best private option in the neighborhood is Berkeley Carroll, other privates are in BH. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 09:15 AM Flag
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38 and 282 are the NoSlope schools (depending on location), neither is bad. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 09:19 AM Flag
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when we lived there neither of those were even considered possibilities, so it's good to hear they're improving a bit. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 09:20 AM Flag
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yes, they are. I know kids who attend both, and they have improved greatly in recent years. Not a ton of diversity, but with the increase in gentrification in the areas there are more involved parents and better curricula. Good G&T too [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 09:21 AM Flag
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so I guess in response to OP's question, there are a few options in the No Slope, but none in Prospect Heights. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 09:42 AM Flag
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I wouldn't move to Prospect Heights, but that's just me... not nearly the neighborhood of PS or Boerum Hill [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 09:46 AM Flag
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we lived there about 8 years ago before dc, and right before people started to move there. it was dirt cheap and we had a beautiful apt, but it wasn't so safe. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 09:50 AM Flag
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Now it isn't as cheap but much more expensive... I'd look to Clinton Hill or Ft Greene if you want to be above Flatbush. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 09:51 AM Flag
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funny, because before Pros Heights I lived in Clinton Hill, and I would chose the Heights over that area because of the park and proximity to the Slope and Carroll Gardens. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 09:53 AM Flag
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I guess I'm thinking the "close in" parts of CH...but then again, I'm in Boerum hill and only ever go to PS, FG, Cobble Hill and CG! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 09:55 AM Flag
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yeah, when we were in CH we spent most of our time walking to PS and CG (this is going back 20 years now) because CH and FG weren't so great/safe. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 09:59 AM Flag
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op here - we are open to CH or FG but the transit options are much, much better in prospect heights. we like the proximity to the park, library, museum and it seems like having park slope close by is useful for variety of restaurants and shops. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:33 PM Flag
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if you're near Atlantic Ave then you're set (which is pretty much FG and southern CH) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:35 PM Flag
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except then you're near atlantic! not that flatbush is much better aesthetically, i just find it better from an urban landscape perspective. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:41 PM Flag
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sorry - did you mean from the transit perspective or what? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:42 PM Flag
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yes, from transit of course (I don't care for either as a street!) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:43 PM Flag
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gotcha. i think we could do FG condo or maybe CH house if we got lucky (something close to the C or G) but still schools not much better and farther away from the privates. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:47 PM Flag
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are you absolutely sold on moving out of BH? I posted a condo link below that is on the BH/PS border [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:48 PM Flag
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op here - actually, we'd be moving from Boerum Hill. too expensive in BH for what you get, schools not much better from what i hear, and i find PH more interesting. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:31 PM Flag
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The school for this part of the Slope is PS282, which is not a bad school, but considered to be more traditional and much more diverse (which is a big turn-off to some). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 09:21 AM Flag
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321 is so overcrowded at this point I'd rather send my dcs to 282 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 09:22 AM Flag
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I just looked on the insideschools.org site, and 282 looks pretty good--I'd go with 282 as well. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 09:28 AM Flag
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It isn't incredibly diverse but the principal is very involved and some of the teachers are supposed to be excellent [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 09:29 AM Flag
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is the g&t any good there? not trying to start a discussion about the value of g&t overall, just wondering. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:29 PM Flag
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yes, it is [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:34 PM Flag
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personal experience or you've heard from others? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 01:00 PM Flag
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my neighbors dc is there [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 01:01 PM Flag
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cool, thanks. obvs. not counting on g&t, but it seems like 282 g&t is a better situation at this point than ps 9. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 01:03 PM Flag
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We live there, and are zoned for a not great but not awful public (38). DC's will likely be doing private, but there is also 321 in NoSlope, 282 in NoSlope which are both good (321 is considered VERY good but is overcrowded). There is also a charter school "The Children's School" entered by lottery [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 09:18 AM Flag
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PS 38 Pacific School? It's far from awful. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 09:25 AM Flag
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^^^^ you said that, too. I should have read more carefully. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 09:26 AM Flag
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lol, no problem. Are you familiar with it? Its our zone, but dh is very insistent on private (I'm not sold on either yet, db is only 1) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 09:26 AM Flag
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yes, 38 Pacific school. I didn't say it was awful. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 09:26 AM Flag
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I would move to NoSlope, anywhere between Union & Flatbush, 4th Ave & PPW, in a hearbeat. Such a fantastic area to live! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 09:47 AM Flag
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ITA (since I live here!) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 09:58 AM Flag
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how old are your dcs? Are they school-aged already? PS 9 might be an option if your dcs are very young and you have a few more years to keep an eye on it as it is turning around. There is a strong principal and the parents are very active in supporting the school and bringing in great enrichment programs. Many UMC folks started sending their dc to PS 9 a few years ago for Pre-K; there is greater diversity therefore in the younger years and it is making its way up the grades. I know parents who have kids there and they are happy and think the principal is doing all the right things. So, if your dcs are young, in a few more years, it will be even stronger and I would suggest visiting the school yourself to see for yourself. I toured and it exceeded my expectations. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 10:50 AM Flag
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but that is not in PS or PH, right? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 10:51 AM Flag
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^^ sorry, is PH... got confused with the one in Cobble Hill [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 10:53 AM Flag
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^^^ oh, and forgot to mention, there is also a very popular charter school in Fort Green that is available by lottery and District 13 (which includes Prospect Heights) has a priority for it. I think it's called Community Roots, also diverse--they have a website I believe. Obviously, it's a lottery, so it's no guarantee. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:26 AM Flag
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FWIW, middle schools in D13 really suck. Just went through this process w/ dc. I would like to say that things will turn around by the time your dcs are in 5th, but it didn't look good this year. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:51 AM Flag
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good advice... I live there now but planning to leave the city by that point, I hope! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 11:52 AM Flag
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op here (sorry, posted and then had to run!). but this is very helpful. we are calculating the cost of private school in and if we move to PH we can still afford a modest single-family brownstone...other side of flatbush it would be condo/coop. really want the house and yard...but not at any cost. dh and i are both public school grads and are really in favor of that direction, for lots of reasons...but, again, not at any cost. i have heard that PS 9 is improving, but i walked by the other day and it was depressing. DC is still really just DB (~10 mos) but as non-native NYers we only slowly realized how unrealistic private school is even if we wanted to make the sacrifices to afford it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:27 PM Flag
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just curious - what is your budget? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:28 PM Flag
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around 1.4, including any renovation costs, etc. we'd save a lot with a condo (since we don't need anything luxurious) but of course be giving up some things too. have thought about going condo/coop with a buying-up plan. seems the smarter thing to do. but at the same time, hard to give up the dream of a yard, etc. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:38 PM Flag
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I know a condo in my building in your range (less) that has a yard... interested? I LOVE my building. We're in ps 38 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:39 PM Flag
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Link: http://www.prudentialelliman.com:80/994331 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:42 PM Flag
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^^ and no, I'm not a broker... just someone who is very happy in my condo and would like to share [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:42 PM Flag
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i've walked by that place so many times! was always curious about the inside. the outside is nms, but the interior looks nice and well-thought-out. and the little yard is so cute! thanks for the link. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:52 PM Flag
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sure. The apartments are actually very nice, and for a new building its much nicer than many (outside, I think). I'll be jealous of your yard for sure (im upstairs)! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:53 PM Flag
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^^ oh, and the yard is actually a lot larger than it looks in the picture. 2 levels as well, so you can have a grill/deck below and garden above. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:54 PM Flag
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what's it like living so close the 3d/4th? always seems kind of like a depressing transition between BH and PS. no offense - PH is also a bit depressing in parts, too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:57 PM Flag
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It is totally fine. (no offense taken, we were really torn about moving there) So close to 5th and all the trains, easy walk to Smith/Court. Our block is actually really good - great block assoc, and our building is almost 100% young couples and families, everyone is incredibly nice, TONS of kids. Plus, there are 3 new residential buildings going up on the block wchih will significantly improve it. Also, very quiet! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 01:00 PM Flag
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sounds interesting. maybe we will check it out. dh is very picky about looking at condos/coops. thanks! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 01:01 PM Flag
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sure, no problem. I was very worried about the block, but we've had NO problems (been here over a year). The building is super-nice (great fixtures, etc) much better than most other new construction I looked at. Good luck! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 01:03 PM Flag
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^^ oh, and we might get re-zoned for 282, fwiw [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 01:03 PM Flag
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really? i thought BH was district 15? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 01:11 PM Flag
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it is, but they're possibly mixing up districts because of the increase in children in the area - not enough schools in BH [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 01:12 PM Flag
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it's such a moving target! but it sounds like things are good and possibly getting better for you! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 01:18 PM Flag
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I know, its crazy. DH and I are SO happy we moved here, actually... the building is great (we're very close with our neighbors now, never had that before) and the location couldn't be better in most regards. Good luck to you! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 01:20 PM Flag
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and to you as well. thanks! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 01:58 PM Flag
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yes, ps 9 is not appealing from the outside! Inside is much, much better though. And apparently there is a parent led-capital campaign for a new playground; they had a planning event for it this spring. PS 9 still may not be the place for you in a few years, but just be aware that private school, aside from the price is a challenge too in terms of getting admitted (not nearly as bad as manhattan, but not a guarantee and certainly less options than manhattan. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:36 PM Flag
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yes, i think we were a bit naive about that. we are interesting people with an interesting DC, but with boring jobs, no connections and no family $$$. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:45 PM Flag
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NP: FYI and off-topic, it seems that private preschool admissions are worse in Brooklyn than in Manhattan. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:51 PM Flag
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there aren't many ps there [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:52 PM Flag
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what are you trying to say? that my dc wouldn't be the 1 non-legacy non-sibling that St. Ann's lets in? LOL. sounds so rough...i think we'll move to scarsdale. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:54 PM Flag
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I like your attitude. Gotta have a sense of humor to survive here! :) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 01:04 PM Flag
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oh, and as for PS 9, if the parents are the same ones who got the underhill playground going, then i have reason to be optimistic! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:48 PM Flag
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excuse me but the PARENTS did not get the underhill playground going. i lived in that neighborhood for 10 yrs and actually lived in the building right next to that playground. i love how folk move into the neighborhood and take credit for everything good and new! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 01:53 PM Flag
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Who did? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 08:35 PM Flag
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A group of dedicated parents keep Underhill playground looking and running great. They do everything from weeding, getting the city to bring mulch, holding events at the playground to foster community, and ensuring the playground is open sufficient hours. Agreed: if this is the same group of parents who are trying to jump start PS 9, you do have reason to be optimistic. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.25.08, 06:04 PM Flag
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you are excused - for your idiotic, non-informative, oversensitive and paranoid response to my comment. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.26.08, 01:36 PM Flag
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My friend's 3BR Coop is for sale in 321 school district - [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:48 PM Flag
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how much? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:49 PM Flag
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$1.15 just around the corner from 321 [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 01:27 PM Flag
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wow, in good shape? how big [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 01:32 PM Flag
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about 1500 sq feet according to listing on warrenlewis.com - i just double-checked -it's the one with the purple couches [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 02:50 PM Flag
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what part of 321? i heard they might be rezoning to exclude the stuff closest to 4th ave. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 12:59 PM Flag
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all the schools around there are being rezoned... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 01:01 PM Flag
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As they all may be in the desirable districts in NYC. Makes it rough to plan where to live when your dcs are still babies. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 01:05 PM Flag
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ITA! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 01:06 PM Flag
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really? all in district 15 or including 13 as well? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.24.08, 01:04 PM Flag
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