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07.22.08, 05:24 AM Preschool/Kids
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NYC Public School Moms - Have you heard anything about the DOE changing Sibling policies to be consistent at all schools? It was mentioned to me yesterday at the playground. I hope so because as of right now my son will not be able to go to the same school as my daughter.... [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
Preschool/Kids 07.22.08, 05:24 AM Flag
 

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Schools don't make their own sib policy. The DOE always has. They have changed the rules with g&t programs a few times, but schools don't make policy. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 05:48 AM Flag
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sorry, and they don't make policies for one school not another (with the exception of gifted programs). What change are you looking for or are you against? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 05:49 AM Flag
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I just want my some and daughter in the same school and in my casae that is not going to happen. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:02 AM Flag
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what school, why not? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:04 AM Flag
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I take it you didn't send the first one to your zoned school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:12 AM Flag
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No. She goes to PS 116 and they do not have a sib policy. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:05 AM Flag
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Either you live in the zone, or she is in G&T that may no longer be there when DD goes. If gen ed is too crowded the school can stop taking out of zone children. Nothing can be done about it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 10:49 AM Flag
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I just do not understand why some schools have an official pocicy. For example, many parents that I speak to that put their kids in Midtown West said that they did ot because they are guaranteed a spot for younger sibs. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:01 AM Flag
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First, 212 is an unzoned school by application. They can "cheat" on the lottery - if you think they do report them to DOE and ask for an open lottery. The DOE has a policy that likes keeping sibs together. 212 does not make its own rules and cannot guarantee anything for future years. They might say it, parents might say it but it doesn't make it so. Rules change from year to year and they ALL come from DOE not from an individual school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:06 AM Flag
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212 says it gives preference to siblings. but they adn anyone dealing with DOE knows that could change at any time. its certainly what the school admin wants but DOE can trump that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.23.08, 10:56 AM Flag
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And the PC at 212 thinks she has more power than she does fwiw [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:07 AM Flag
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That is what I heard.... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:06 AM Flag
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why not? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 06:20 AM Flag
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What school are you zoned for? Just curious. I too was at 116, but I was pretty much told that my younger daughter would not get into K in the fall, so I'm moving both of my kids back to my neighborhood school. I know some people in the past have showed up to school on the first day to try to register the sibling and it has worked out, but with the overcrowding issues these days, I was not willing to take the risk. It upsets me to take my daughter out of the G&T, but if she's smart, she won't suddenly become dumb in another school. Our zoned school is fine, and it's closer, which is always a bonus. The advantages of having my children in the same school far outweigh the disadvantage of taking my daughter out of G&T. The gen ed curriculum is the same anyway. Good luck. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:27 AM Flag
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We are zoned for PS 11. I wish I was happy with my zoned school because then this would not be an issue. Your daughter will be fine and most importantly your 2 kids will be together... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 07:38 AM Flag
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I'm sure we know each other, but we'll keep this anonymous. I'll give you a hint: I cochaired the auction this year. Oddly enough, it still didn't help my cause. I'm sorry you're going through this; maybe I've freed up some space for you. I had an awful year stressing out about this whole sibling thing, but once I made the decision to pull my daughter out, I was okay. I wanted her to be happy, and she handled it well. I really just stressed that 116 was becoming very crowded; I didn't want her to blame her sister for the move. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 08:02 AM Flag
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How would chairing the auction help ? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 09:16 AM Flag
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I devoted an enormous amount of time and energy to the school, not only for the auction, but for pretty much every PTA-sponsored event that took place over the course of the year. I don't think the school should turn any siblings away, but my point was that I more than proved how committed I was to the community and to my childrens' educations. The families are the backbone of the school; so to break up a family or to turn away a family that is committed to making sure the school is a wonderful environment for our children is just pitiful. I don't at all regret or resent my efforts...I know the school will benefit. My final thought is this: when a child is accepted into a G&T program, he/she becomes a legitimate member of the school's population. Therefore, the family (all members) should be welcomed into that community, and the zone lines should be erased. Breaking up families truly hurts the schools and will cause a lot of resentment on the part of a family who may have otherwise had the time to make a difference for the school. Again, good luck. I hope that it works out for you and that you can bring your children to one school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 10:43 AM Flag
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ok, but if they no longer have room for the G&T program, what are they supposed to do? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 10:51 AM Flag
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I wasn't trying to get my younger daughter into the G&T program, just the general ed. She didn't score high enough to qualify. However, as I'm sure you know, siblings who scored at least 90% on the OLSAT took priority over non-siblings. So...for those kids, being a sibling paid off. The whole thing is nonsense. I still believe my daughters will get great educations in the city, it's just that we have to jump through so many hoops during the process. My letter-writing skills have improved significantly in the past year; though their effectiveness is still questionable. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 10:57 AM Flag
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I have a friend whose son is going into 3rd grade and she is stressing about her 4 year old getting into 116 especially now that there is not going to be a TAG class so she can not even have her 4 year old tested. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 09:31 AM Flag
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If schools run out of room, they can absolutely close doors for out of zone children, nothing DOE can or would want to do about that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 10:51 AM Flag
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We need more schools!! did anyone see the press conference outside of 116 yesterday. It really does sound like the school is in crisis. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 11:16 AM Flag
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That's why I'm not terribly upset that I'm leaving. I'm fortunate that my zoned school is fine AND it [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 11:44 AM Flag
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I got cut off...AND it's being rebuilt. So, I'm actually excited to be moving on. I really feel for the parents and the faculty of PS 116. It is a wonderful school and the families represent all walks of life. We met wonderful people there, and I'm confident that despite the crowding, the school will continue to offer a great education. I just think it's going to be an uphill battle for a few more years. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 11:47 AM Flag
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GL [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 12:23 PM Flag
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I personally am I strong believer in keeping sibs together. I wish the DOE would feel the same [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 02:45 PM Flag
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I guess I'm headed down the same path as you. My ds is a 116 g&t sib heading to K in 2 years. They won't even have a g&t at that point to apply to, so I guess we'll be pulling our dd out too. She has been so happy. I wonder if it would have been better to have stuck with the zone to begin with. Oh well! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 04:03 PM Flag
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I understand why to keep siblings together, but where I live in Queens, we were told our dd may not be able to go to the Kindergarten 4 blocks away because school is overcrowded and they have more kids registered than available seats. I definately want my zoned kid at that school and given enrollment preference over out of zoned siblings. I think it's a priviledge to go out of zone and just because allowed for 1 family member, should not be guaranteed to another at expense of zoned kids. Why should I have to travel because someone else has siblings? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 02:54 PM Flag
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I completely understand your point and I think that they are working on fixing this moving forward by trying to have children attend their zone schools. Unfortunately my zoned school is not an option for me..... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 02:58 PM Flag
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Thanks for that, I was afraid I'd be slammed... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.22.08, 03:01 PM Flag
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The current DOE policy is sibs first. Isn't this true at 116 too? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.28.08, 05:04 PM Flag
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The DOE policy is sibs first if they qualify for g&t. If they do not, they get preference for spots in gen ed if the school has room. 116 is overcrowded and does not have to take sibs into gen ed. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.28.08, 06:49 PM Flag
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