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07.21.08, 14:07 PM General Topics
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WWYD. Our babysitter normally works pt (4 hours) in the afternoons picking up the kids from school/camp until we get home. This week she'll also be coming in the morning to take dcs to camp - which will take about an hour all in. Do I just pay her hourly rate for the extra hour or so for each day - or do I need to pay for more hours even though the kids are at camp all day? [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
General Topics 07.21.08, 02:07 PM Flag
 

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^^Unfortunately I did not negotiate this with the babysitter ahead of time. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.21.08, 02:08 PM Flag
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pay her for the extra time, hourly - if she's not working in the middle of the day then she's not working [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.21.08, 02:10 PM Flag
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np: You need to account for the travel time then, because she has to come and go twice. Unless she lives just down the street this is a major inconvenience. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.21.08, 02:18 PM Flag
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What is the expectation of what she will do between dropping them off at camp and picking them up? If she's at your house, then you need to pay her something. If she's on her own to do as she likes as long as she is back in time to pick them up, then I'd pay for more than the "hour" of drop off, but not for all the hours. So say her hourly is $15 - maybe I'd pay an extra $100 for the week. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.21.08, 02:11 PM Flag
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There is no expectation for her to come back to our house to do anything - just to pick them back up at the end of the day. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.21.08, 02:14 PM Flag
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Then I'd offer as above and if she says something you can negotiate. if camp is 9-3pm and she's never worked for you duringthe day, I highly doubt that she suddenly expects to be paid for all those extra hours. it would be different if she'd been your ft sitter and you wanted to NOT pay her since the dcs were in camp all day. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.21.08, 02:16 PM Flag
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Generally she is not a ft sitter - but when she's come in the morning if dcs are sick or off from school then I've paid her for the whole day. I've never just asked her to take the kids to camp/school before with no resposibility for them during the day [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.21.08, 02:19 PM Flag
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I reiterate - offer something above her hourly for the added responsibility and see what she says. "Is $100/week for taking them to camp fair to you?" How much are you paying/week for the 20 hours she works already? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.21.08, 02:23 PM Flag
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$400. I think I'll try this question. I may need her to do this sometimes when dc starts a new school in September. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.21.08, 02:27 PM Flag
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see, i think under the circumstances, if you pay her $500-600/week, you essentially ARE paying her almost a FT salary. $20/hour is a pretty high rate for FT hours (esp. when dcs are in school or camp all day) whereas it's a more typical rate for PT. So you maybe could say - "with the added responsibility of taking them to camp, i was going to increase your pay to $550." If she normally doesn't work all day until camp, then your extra pay is $ she would not mormally be getting - which is different than if she gave up an AM job to do this for you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.21.08, 02:33 PM Flag
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Thanks for your advice. She doesn't have another job. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.21.08, 02:57 PM Flag
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np: I disagree with the $100/week. At minimum, OP should pay the nanny for the extra 1 hr/day plus her extra commute time. That would be about 2.5 hr/day or 12.5 hr/wk. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.21.08, 02:29 PM Flag
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So your opinion is more than exact time spent with DCs to include extra commute time but not for the whole day? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.21.08, 02:32 PM Flag
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I think that would be a fair solution. The other issue is whether bringing your dcs to school/camp in the morning is keeping her from doing another job. Then she might have an argument (an it wouldn't be unreasonable) that she is entitled to the full day of pay since she is foregoing other pay. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.21.08, 02:39 PM Flag
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You need to talk to her about this ASAP! She may think she's getting paid for the entire day. How far does she live from your place? If far, then you should pay her for more than just an hour. Maybe pay her for her extra commute time too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.21.08, 02:14 PM Flag
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Its about 45 minutes to our house and then an hour to camp using public transportation. But would it be reasonable for her to think she is working the whole day when I only asked her to come in to take them to camp? How do I approach this question - what do you expect to get paid to take the kids to camp? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.21.08, 02:17 PM Flag
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it actually would be reasonable for her to think that. A lot of nannies do what your nanny is doing this week and get paid for the whole day. Technically, the work day starts when your nanny takes your kids to camp and ends when you get home. But since your nanny is normally PT, she might not have that expectation. You'll need to talk to her tonight. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.21.08, 02:22 PM Flag
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i think the expectations of FT sitter whose charges now go to school or camp all day are different from the expectations of a PT sitter whose been asked to do an extra task for a few hours/week. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.21.08, 02:25 PM Flag
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My situation is the latter -- she's always been PT. But has occasionally worked for us FT when the dcs were out of school. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.21.08, 02:30 PM Flag
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Where is the camp in relation to where she lives? I would figure out if she would have any true free time going back and forth from camp to her home and then back again. If she will spend the better part of the day on public transportation, I would pay her for the entire time. If she will be able to go home for several hours in between drop off and pick up, I wouldn't. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.21.08, 02:22 PM Flag
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I think she'll expect to be paid for the day. You can't expect someone to come in for a couple of hours and then return a few hours later and not pay them for the whole time. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.21.08, 02:16 PM Flag
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But why? She won't have the kids or do anything for us for the 6 hours the dcs are at camp. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.21.08, 02:20 PM Flag
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np: my nanny used to have 3 hrs of free time when my dc was in an afternoon preschool program. I still paid her for that time since she came in the morning and left at night. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.21.08, 02:23 PM Flag
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but had she already been working for you ft? i think that's different. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.21.08, 02:28 PM Flag
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it's just not the way it works. i mean, if your nanny is fine with it, then by all means go right ahead. but most wouldn't be and i don't blame them. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.21.08, 02:26 PM Flag
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but MOST nannies go from FT work to kids being in school so essentially that would be a cut in hours. a babysitter that normally only works 20 hours/week, but that now will work 25 is another situation. i know students who do jobs like this because they can do drop off, still take classes all day and then arrive in time to pick up kids from camp. they are not giving up a ft job to do this. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.21.08, 02:35 PM Flag
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a student is one thing. it's quite likely that an older nanny who isn't in school and has a family to support is going to start shopping around for a f/t job if that's essentially what she's doing but being paid by the hour. especially if there's a gap between shifts that makes it hard to take another job. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.21.08, 05:40 PM Flag
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