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07.19.08, 10:14 AM NY Schools
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DD is in middle school at a TT. Dd really really smart. Excellent grades, but not really a the most motivated student, so don't know if she'll keep it up. Great test taker and i expect her SAT scores will be great. Really good writer. But no legacy and no connections and can't donate big bucks to her TT. So .. will TT get her placed at an Ivy? Or would she do just as well if she went to Stuyvesant? I"ve read and heard that if there's a kid whose parents are prominent or legacies and a kid whose parents are nobodies, and both kids have good qualifications, the school will push the kid with the monied legacy parents, and the other kid they'll direct to a good but lesser school. If that's the case, is there any advantaqe in terms of exmissions in staying at the TT? [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
NY Schools 07.19.08, 10:14 AM Flag
 

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if you are poor, you would have a better chance from tt. too many smart poor kids at stuy. if rich, but no leg, you are screwed. move to louisiana. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.19.08, 10:17 AM Flag
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Does your dd WANT to go to an Ivy? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.19.08, 10:33 AM Flag
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Honestly, from any school in NYC, public or private, there's going to have to be something really special about her that will make her stand out from her other high-scoring peers. It could be something like her writing ability, it could be that she's just rocket scientist smart, it could be a real dedication and motivation to making the world a better place, it could be that her parents have major money, but I really believe that these schools are looking for that special "x factor" among a number of extremely qualified students, and that if your dd has it, it doesn't matter which of any of the good NY schools she goes to. And by the way, I also believe that the "x factor" is sometimes random chance - a great esssay or recommendation or something about that applicant that strikes the admissions officer in a particular way and makes them fall in love with that particular kid and what they could offer. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.19.08, 11:45 AM Flag
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I don't think there is an answer to this question. Your dd most likely will have the better chance coming from the school where she is happier--she will be more motivated, self-assured, relaxed, etc., all of which will help in the college application process. Who knows what will happen in a few years with her. I would involve her in this decision. Does she love her TT? Is she itching for different social pool, different kind of challenges, etc. I would leave exmissions out of it. Even if it's important to you, it might no work out the way you thought anyway. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.19.08, 12:55 PM Flag
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best answer [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.19.08, 08:09 PM Flag
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your dd is in to the school people don't and don't NEED to donate to get fair and equal college placement. People, please, there is no conspiracy here let it GO [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.19.08, 01:40 PM Flag
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re: donations -- back in the late 80s, I remember specifically hearing that legacy of some of the primary donors to the school (i.e. buildings named after their family) did not get accepted. If the kid cannot handle the academics, etc. they will not be accepted. Making donations is very nice, but doesn't insure placement for donor's dc - at least at a large TT university (maybe at a smaller school). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.19.08, 06:17 PM Flag
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most mc decently educated average kids can handle the academics. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.19.08, 06:32 PM Flag
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np: exactly. just get the kid in, and they will be fine. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.19.08, 08:04 PM Flag
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does she want to go to an ivy? i want my dc to attend a college that will make her happy. if that is ivy, great. if not, great. will support her. suggest that you allow dc to do the same [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.19.08, 05:11 PM Flag
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Why is it so important she go to an Ivy? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.19.08, 05:14 PM Flag
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An Ivy may not be the place that can provide your dd with the best education. Is she happy at her school? Is she learning? If so, then let her stay [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.19.08, 05:15 PM Flag
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OP - it's a big financial drain, we can't save at all. Had to go into savings this year for tuition. DD happy at school and we'd keep her there, but money is an issue. DH wants to send her to public for hs, presumably Stuy. He says, as one of the other posters did, that it'll be about whatever makes her special, anyway, in the end. Ivy is good for connections. I've seen this so many times in my professional life. It's not that you can't be successful w/o Ivy connections, but they seem to be really helpful. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.19.08, 09:19 PM Flag
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