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07.16.08, 10:29 AM New York City
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What does your nanny do while dc is in camp all day? [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
New York City 07.16.08, 10:29 AM Flag
 

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i have no idea. we do drop off and she is off until she needs to do pick up. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 10:31 AM Flag
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Sit on her ass in a chair in the livingroom while I slam myself for fearing her too much to work up the nerve to ask her to do some damn housework already. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 10:31 AM Flag
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why is she at your house when dc is in camp? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 10:41 AM Flag
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np: where would you have her go? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 10:43 AM Flag
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I would have her not come till dc got home from camp. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 10:43 AM Flag
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But clearly there's an expectation that she does housework. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 10:44 AM Flag
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not if OR did not ask her to. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 10:47 AM Flag
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Why should she do housework? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 10:44 AM Flag
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You must be a nanny. Are you paid to sit on your ass all day too? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 10:46 AM Flag
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You sound disturbed. Get some help. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 10:47 AM Flag
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Again - you sound like a nanny. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 10:47 AM Flag
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np: I'm a mom and I refused to let my sitter to chores- that wasn't part of our deal. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:01 AM Flag
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I pay my nanny to shop at The Gap with her friends. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 10:47 AM Flag
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HA! Thank you for this. Really. Thank you. I pay mine to shop at Strawberry. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:27 AM Flag
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np: not a nanny but not everyone makes housework part of the job. we didn't, beyond the kids' laundry adn straightening their room. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 10:48 AM Flag
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Exactly. If I asked my nanny to do more than that I would expect to pay her more. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 10:50 AM Flag
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NANNY ALERT [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 10:59 AM Flag
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oh for the love of god, just b/c someone can understand that a nanny is not a maid does not actually make them a nanny themselves. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:01 AM Flag
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ita- this person seems to think being a nanny is something 'below' her or that these jobs are belittling and shameful [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:02 AM Flag
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why do you need an alert [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:01 AM Flag
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np: because nannies post things on here that are inaccurate and then people get incorrect perceptions of reality based on these posts. For example, nanny salaries are routinely inflated on UB. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:13 AM Flag
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Wouldn't the same be true for moms who employ nannies- ie posting momcentric innaccuracies that distort perceptions of reality? I would argue that some mothers and nannies share the same opinions and values [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:15 AM Flag
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Not sure what your point is. Do you doubt that salary inflation happens on nanny salary polls on UB? Then clearly you have not reviewed these polls and compared them to real life. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:17 AM Flag
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I don't believe there is a conspiracy of nannies posting inflated salaries to affect the field. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:19 AM Flag
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It does not have to be a "conspiracy" to be a real phenomenon. It happens. It is fairly common UB knowledge not to trust salary polls (or any other skewed "statistic" garnered from UB polls) as the reference for setting a nanny salary. But, hey, if you think an anonymous message board is reality and want to use that to set a pay scale for your nanny, then go for it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:21 AM Flag
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I don't actually have a nanny and I view UB as a demographic, not a reflection of vast reality. I can't imagine why nannies would be on UB trying to up their salaries. This just seems absurd to me! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:25 AM Flag
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If a place existed where I could potentially increase my salary just by posting a poll and a few numbers, I would absolutely do it - UB, YBM, CL, etc. I applaud nannies for being resourceful and trying to do this. But I take the polls with a grain of salt. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:28 AM Flag
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Those wacky nannies- always trying to screw you! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:31 AM Flag
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as a FORMER nanny (now mom), you are absurd [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:02 AM Flag
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ITA [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:04 AM Flag
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just hoping you don't have a nanny [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:11 AM Flag
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DO IT. She shuold not "do nothing" all day. My nanny cleans--it is awesome. If yours won't do it, fire hire and hire one who WILL [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:14 AM Flag
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we have ours start at 3. why pay somebody to do nothing? there are tons of nannies who will work part time. we founds our on craigslist. she's 27, so sweet, kids love her and she works 20-25 hours week and gets to have a life of her own too. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 10:47 AM Flag
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^^and we pay somebody else $100/week to come once a week and clean our house. so much better to not mix the two. our nanny jsut cleans up kid stuff, toys, books, dishes, etc. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 10:48 AM Flag
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I used to be your nanny (not really, but was like her before I graduated grad school, got a fulltime job, met dh, etc). [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:20 AM Flag
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when we hired our nanny our youngest was already in preschool and our older child in elementary, so we made it clear that the job involved all kinds of household duties, not just child care. But if that wasn't discussed when you hired her, you need to sit down and see if you can come to an understanding that works for everyone. But be prepared to hire someone else. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 10:50 AM Flag
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If I was a nanny, I would refuse to do non-child related cleaning. So demeaning and there's plenty of jobs available in the city. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 10:52 AM Flag
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which is fine, but some nannies agree to do it, especially as kids get older, to keep a F/T job. Not everyone sees it as demeaning. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 10:57 AM Flag
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How is cleaning demeaning? I clean everyday and don't feel demeaned at all- actually I like it [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:03 AM Flag
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I think that it is safe to safe that most people don't enjoy it. Considering it takes a lot less skill to be a house cleaner than a really good nanny, I would say it is demeaning. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:05 AM Flag
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safe to say [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:05 AM Flag
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I'm not saying that a nanny should be a housecleaner also- that is up to the employer/employee to work out. But cleaning in and of itself is not demeaning and there is some skill involved- some people are more efficient, thorough, and know lots of tips and tricks. Like with anything- cooking, writing, etc. Most people just do it because it is an aspect of life that is just there- you can chose to feel entitled and find it insulting or you can enjoy it and do a good job. That's how I see it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:10 AM Flag
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So if someone asked to change your job description to include menial tasks that anyone can do, you wouldn't be insulted? I know that there can be great housekeepers, but that's not the nanny's job, and it's not like she's being asked to do it b/c she's so great at it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:16 AM Flag
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if it meant i got to keep my job, and i preferred that to getting a new one, sure. my firm cut back on support staff so now i do a lot of admin/"menial" work in addition to my trained work. i didn't quit. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:18 AM Flag
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yes, but job market for NYC nannies is pretty good. My only point is op risks loosing nanny. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:26 AM Flag
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and nanny risks losing job, eventually if not now. and really, is housework so much more "menial" thatn changing diapers? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:29 AM Flag
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if the market is so good, then job sites like Sittercity and criagslist would include many more jobs than sitters looking for work. this is not the case because the market is not as strong as you think. it may be easy for a super experienced and educated nanny to get a decent job, but for the average nanny it is not easy to get a high paying job with good hours and no housework. try posting yourself as an employer (or nanny) and see the results you get. having just been through this I am confident of what i'm saying. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:30 AM Flag
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I don't consider menial jobs to be insulting. If someone asked me, I would decide whether or not I wanted to do it and let the employer know. If the employer just 'told' me that now I am expected to do xyz, then I probably would be less happy than if we worked it out together. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:21 AM Flag
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np and MD. Our hospital cut back on janitorial services so the common areas (nursing stations, hallways, bathrooms, offices) are much less clean than they used to be. I chose to pitch in and try to clean up after myself and others more often. I did not quit. I understood that life changes and jobs sometimes include things that aren't "skilled" labor and aren't what I was trained for. That's life. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:27 AM Flag
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No it is not. If you want to continue to have the job with family once kids are in school you have to accept the housekeeper/babysitter combo. Otherwise you just find another nanny job. But a lot of nannies do prefer staying with the family even if it means job change. Some do not and they will change jobs. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:14 AM Flag
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I already have a job! I'm just saying that the employer and the employee have to agree on job duties- if the OP wants her nanny to start doing housecleaning, she has to ask her first, not think that the nanny will magically know that this is expected of her. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:18 AM Flag
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no one said the nanny should magically know. I was actually the one who posted above saying that we discussed the housekeeping responsibilities when our nanny was hired. I said the op needs to talk to her nanny, but be prepared to hire someone else, where this is discussed up front. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.17.08, 06:15 AM Flag
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How come my cleaning lady makes more an hour than my nanny does then? I live in Jersey and pay my nanny $15/hr for one child, and my house cleaner $60 for 2 1/2 hours to clean a 2 bed apt. Am I overpaying my house cleaner? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:59 AM Flag
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why is housework demeaning? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:04 AM Flag
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domestic workers will be hit hard in terms of job options and pay soon. as the economy worsens, that will be one of the first things people compromise on. this attitude will result in an unemployed nanny very soon. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:09 AM Flag
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I don't really buy that argument [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:14 AM Flag
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np-i do [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:15 AM Flag
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it's not really an argument to "buy" or not. It's fact. The economy is getting worse. Jobs in all areas are becoming harder to get and paying less. "Luxury" or nonessential jobs will suffer first. People who are not flexible with their job description are more expendable than those who are. Not sure what part is debatable for you. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:16 AM Flag
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nanny is not a luxury job for most people, you need one to be able to work. If you are SAHM with nanny then yes. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:17 AM Flag
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And many nannies work for SAHM. And many families have more childcare than they absolutely need. Thus, my original point. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:19 AM Flag
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I would never hire a nanny to be home while my dcs are out all day. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 10:56 AM Flag
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What if the kids are in camp for just few weeks? You will have hard time finding someone who will work part-time for 2 weeks and then full time the next two. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:15 AM Flag
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you suck it up and pay for f/t even though she isn't working f/t for two weeks. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.16.08, 11:17 AM Flag
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I think a mom needs to communicate open and honestly with her nanny. My nanny does housework and this was discussed when we hired her 4 years ago. She assumed more of those housework responsibilities over time without me asking and without a pay raise. The trade-off is that she gets to leave early if I come home from work early. Also ahe gets significantly more vacation time than was originally discussed. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.17.08, 10:19 AM Flag
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