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07.14.08, 10:26 AM General Topics
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Do you believe in God? [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
General Topics 07.14.08, 10:26 AM Flag
 

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I think that there is perfection in nature, but it isn't some human-type personal god, no. I think humans aren't long for this world anyway. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:27 AM Flag
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rather undecided i must admit [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:27 AM Flag
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I don't believe in a creator God like in Christianity, Islam, or Judaism [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:34 AM Flag
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yes [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:28 AM Flag
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religious god or "high being" god of your own making? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:29 AM Flag
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isn't it all of our own making? - np [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:30 AM Flag
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I think that there are some proscribed gods that some religions espouse. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:31 AM Flag
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prescribed [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:32 AM Flag
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^^^and i guess my point was that it's all really made up [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:33 AM Flag
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true. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:39 AM Flag
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how can you really know, though? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:49 AM Flag
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np. You can't. That is why it's called faith [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:51 AM Flag
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but how can you know its made up or not made up? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:53 AM Flag
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you can't "know". You just believe or not. That's all. Pretty simple [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:54 AM Flag
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I think some people do know [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:58 AM Flag
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I believe that we "make up" gods to try to attempt to explain God. I don't think any religion has a strangle hold on Truth. I think most religions have a piece or 2 of truth. I believe God exists, but I don't think we can really understand him/her or his will - esp in small things like "please let me get that job". Etc. I personally am catholic b/c the tradition speaks to me and gives me a framework to live my life. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:37 AM Flag
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Human society made up Gods and religion to explain things like the universe, life, etc. etc. The more advanced science gets and supplies us with answers the less need there will be for God. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:47 AM Flag
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science can't even explain the brain. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:49 AM Flag
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not yet. It will probably take a couple more millennia before we are at that point. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:52 AM Flag
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if we make it through global warming... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:54 AM Flag
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IDA with you. I think God exists whether we acknowlegde him or not. He is indepenant of us. We do make up rules and beliefs etc but it's an attempt to understand what exists, not just imagination. Just MHO though. I don't expect you to change your mind. ;-) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:50 AM Flag
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nice way out. That's definitely a quite sophisticated thinking. Not what people believed only a few hundred years ago. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:54 AM Flag
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most people still dont think that way and I think there have always been some who would agree with me. I'm just saying what I believe and it has been hard fought and a long battle. Not an easy place to get to. I love talking about this stuff though [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:55 AM Flag
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yes [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:30 AM Flag
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I believe in the divine [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:34 AM Flag
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No even a little bit [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:43 AM Flag
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np do you ever wonder about it? What makes you feel so sure? (and BTW not trying to flame or convert you. Just curious) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:44 AM Flag
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bc it's ridiculous to me to think that something created everything. I think very scientifically [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 11:23 AM Flag
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Whether you believe in God or not, does not matter. The important thing is to have a good heart, a warm heart, in daily life. Thjis is the principle of life- the Dalai lama [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:46 AM Flag
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I don't anymore. Towards the end of my belief I used to pray everyday for God to show me that he/she existed. Life is much easier when you believe in God. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:46 AM Flag
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LOL! So God didn't give you proof and you lost your faith? That is funny! Do you see the irony there? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:47 AM Flag
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It was a little more complicated than that. I researched it and I am still researching it reading both Christian and aethist writers/philosophers. It is a great question that everyone must grapple with - at this point I do not believe. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:53 AM Flag
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well keep searching. That's what I did (and still do) I hope you will find answers that comfort and help you one way or another ;-) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:56 AM Flag
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I am like Pascal. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:49 AM Flag
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meaning? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:49 AM Flag
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Pascal said, basically, it costs you very little to behave as if there is a God and the rewards are infinite. Therefore, in the absence of absolute proof that God did not exist, it would be foolish to do anything else. (I'm sure he said it much better that is my interpretation and recollection of Blaise Pascal. This is usually refereed to as "Pascal's Gambit.") [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 11:11 AM Flag
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very similar to the Dalai Lama quote above- it doesn't really matter whether you believe in god or not, just be kind- nothing to lose there [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 11:37 AM Flag
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Except, I think Pascal's Gambit is much more crass. It is about what you are going to get in return for your behavior. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 11:42 AM Flag
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I'm like Padmasambhave [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:50 AM Flag
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Religion is the opium of the people. I think Marx was onto something there. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:50 AM Flag
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splain please [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:51 AM Flag
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opiet [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:52 AM Flag
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snort. I am familiar with the quote (and you still didn's spell it right) I am asking what that means to you [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:53 AM Flag
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'snort' then why didn't you quote it correctly. public school eh? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:56 AM Flag
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?? yes, public school Thanks for noticing. And I'm not the one who posted the quote. I'm asking her what it means to her, not what Marx meant. Private school snob eh? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:57 AM Flag
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Not a snob, simply observant. What is meant to Marx is what it means to her you moron. It is not open to interpretation, it is a quoted observation from the father of the system. My god. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 11:01 AM Flag
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nice. Glad they teach manners and logic at that pricey private school [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 11:11 AM Flag
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Die Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. There. This is the correct quote. Or's translation is good enough. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 11:22 AM Flag
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What Marx meant was that religion is the best way to keep man down, to keep humans from rising up and complaining and demanding more from their political structure, it keeps them calm, stoned [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:53 AM Flag
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How's communism working out for China? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 10:58 AM Flag
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That is not the point of the quote or the post, what are you attempting to say [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 11:03 AM Flag
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opiate. not opium. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 11:36 AM Flag
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Since the original quote was in German there is no official equivalent now, is there? Opium, opiate, potato, potahto. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:33 PM Flag
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yes but not in a puppet-master kind of way. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 11:03 AM Flag
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I could argue both sides. I do think that a belief in God is helpful as a child so we are attending church with our kids. But as they get old enough to understand ambiguities, I'll explain things in less black and white terms and let them make their own decisions. Right now, I like the community aspect and social outreach of our church so I'll take the God part along with it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 11:33 AM Flag
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I could never stomach such a thing. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 11:50 AM Flag
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good thing no one is asking you to [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:18 PM Flag
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I am going to start taking my kids too. I lost my faith, but as my mother has passed away I realize that church is a comforting place and something that grounded me as a child [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 02:50 PM Flag
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You and I are in very similar boats. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 12:16 PM Flag
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yes, I do [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 11:51 AM Flag
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Nah. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.14.08, 03:03 PM Flag
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