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07.13.08, 18:45 PM General Topics
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Any Dems voting for McCain? If so, why? [ Reply | Watch | Flag ]
General Topics 07.13.08, 06:45 PM Flag
 

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General Topics 07.13.08, 06:46 PM Flag
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not me [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 06:47 PM Flag
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nope, and my republican parents are voting for Obama as well [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 06:48 PM Flag
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same here [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 06:48 PM Flag
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you are a rep? and you are voting Obama? You aren't a real republican then [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 06:49 PM Flag
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I'm a dem voting for obama, my parents are republican voting for obama [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 06:51 PM Flag
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well a dem voting for him makes sense. A rep voting for him does not. He is pretty far to the left. I do like some of what he says but he kind of scares me. Of course so does McCain so I don't know who to vote for! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 06:52 PM Flag
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Neither of my parents like what he is saying about the war, especially regarding Iran. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 06:54 PM Flag
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np: OBAMA! I'm ready for the war machine to slow down. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 06:55 PM Flag
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I wonder how much will really change though? I think there are things that only the president and very high ups are privy too. Once Obama gets briefed, he might change his tune. Interesting to see [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 06:58 PM Flag
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I doubt that he is going to be nearly as likely to start a war with Iran without exploring all possibilities, which McCain seems totally willing to do. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 06:59 PM Flag
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It won't be a 100% about face, by any means, but I don't expect things to stay the same. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 06:59 PM Flag
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hip hip hooray [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 06:49 PM Flag
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sweet! there is hope!! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 06:52 PM Flag
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yes- hate his tax plan, and obama keeps moving to the right. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 06:50 PM Flag
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hardly! He wants to take more $$ from those evil rich people and give it to other people. That's hardly right [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 06:51 PM Flag
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oh lord. It was so infuriating when my independently wealthy bf paid significantly less in taxes b/c all of his were capital gains instead of income. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 06:53 PM Flag
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ok here is the real issue to me. When you tax capital gains, you are really taxing someone for being a smart investor and saving his/her money. Indepenantly wealthy people may get a break too but most millionaires started out middle class or less and are self made. I think it is wrong and works against human nature to punish behavior we should want to encourage - like working hard, saving and investing $$ etc etc. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 06:57 PM Flag
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but why should they pay any more or less than people who had to work for their money. And I'm afraid that most of the independently wealthy that I know inherited their money. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:00 PM Flag
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life isn't fair. Some people have more and pay less and vice versa. I think it's shortsighted to punish people for being smart even if Paris Hilton benefits too [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:01 PM Flag
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but I don't see a reason to reward them either. It just means that it is hard for others to save. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:03 PM Flag
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how is punishing someone who was good with their money and time make it easier or harder for someone who was not good with decisions etc? If anything, the rich person, even Paris Hilton types, are consuming and creating jobs for poor slobs like me [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:06 PM Flag
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but having capital gains be lower than most income tax brackets is "punishing" the working class; I don't see any justification for that either. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:19 PM Flag
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I think everyone's taxes are too high. I think they need to cut spending and lower taxes all around. Also, capital gains are paid on money that has already been taxed so in a way it's double taxation [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:21 PM Flag
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ok, so would you cut public funding pretty much totally or would you get out of the wars we're in? Do you have any idea how much more we're already spending than we bring in via taxes? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:22 PM Flag
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oh yes. I think we spend far too much and spending should be drastically cut. Don't want to argue about the war but there is plenty of pork that can and should be wiped out. Makes me so mad! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:24 PM Flag
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You are kidding me. The pork McCain talks about is a drop in the bucket, and besides he has no prayer to get his GOP collegues to give it up. He has not offered one sensible idea on what to cut. So much for balancing the budget. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:26 PM Flag
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that pork doesn't amount to the trillions in debt that we are getting. It is a lot, yes, but not as much as education, transportation costs. Studys show that the % federal taxes go down, state taxes go up the same amount because the funding needs to come from somewhere. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:27 PM Flag
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The education budget is minimal on federal level, it's all states. Look at military spending, social security, medicare, and debt repayment as major drains on the budget. Which ones will you cut? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:29 PM Flag
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Lets cut out debt repayment, our kids can figure it out later. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:50 PM Flag
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You don't somehow seriously believe that the Paris Hilton-types are creating jobs for the average person? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:55 PM Flag
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"You know what assholes congenitally wealthy people are - it never fails" [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:55 PM Flag
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Not evil rich- people who are self employed, make over $200 a yr, wants to up the tax bracket. And everytime I hear him speak, Obama is backtracking his own views to be more conservative. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 06:54 PM Flag
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you do know that "self employed" small business owners create the majority of jobs for us regular people in this country right? What will happen if you raise their taxes? Fewer jobs. Pretty simple really. The dems want to kill the goose that lays the golden egg [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 06:55 PM Flag
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thank you! My dh employs 8 people, and planned to hire 2 more, but is now waiting until the election to see if he can afford both. Time for a change, huh? And the whole Reverend thing is unsettling. He knew what the guy was like for years, and then dropped him once the press showed his true colors. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 06:57 PM Flag
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I am much less concerned about where he went to church (even if some of what is said there is nuts!) than what he says he is going to do. I like some of what he says. I like the fact that he is encouraging people to take responsibility for themselves etc. But he leans too far to the left for me financially speaking. I worry about teh economy under his leadership [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 06:59 PM Flag
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hmmm GW has done such a stellar job. It just proves Republicans are better at this... [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:04 PM Flag
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lol [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:05 PM Flag
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Well McCain already said he does not know much about the economy. His chief economic adviser called us 'nation of whiners'. What more do we need? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:21 PM Flag
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Well, it would also be nice to have someone who has his head in the sand about inflation and the housing bust;) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:29 PM Flag
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200,000/year is not rich, but it is significantly higher than the majority of Americans. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 06:57 PM Flag
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Yeah, after taxes now, 200 is 120, and if Obama gets his way, it will be 98. That is the difference between me staying hime with our dcs and working. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 06:58 PM Flag
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home [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 06:59 PM Flag
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fantastic point! ANd then of course eveyrone will scream that we need "free" child care so that you can go to work and they will take even more $$ from people! Crazy! Why don't we just tax people less and let them take care of their own familes? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:00 PM Flag
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What will people that make under 50K do? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:04 PM Flag
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be able to use some of the $$ that would have gone to taxes to go to night school and get a better job maybe? I make just over $50K so don't call me an slitist either. I know why I am sort of poor and am not bitter about it. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:05 PM Flag
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So, they can stay at home with their kids and use what money for school? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:16 PM Flag
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what? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:17 PM Flag
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That is what poster is saying. It makes no sense. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:20 PM Flag
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I doubt that will happen, but you also have to feel lucky to not HAVe to work. (I am not saying that it shouldn't be a choice that we should all have for some time, and it is a shame that it is more like a luxury these days. Saddens me.) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:02 PM Flag
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maybe she was smart about finances and saved her money (which would tehn be taxed AGAIN when she makes money on her investments) Maybe her DH worked his butt off getting a good job. Luck has very little to do with it. We are all lucky to live in a country that has incredible opportunities. Don't let jealousy ruin your outlook because you made some bad choices [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:04 PM Flag
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I didn't make BAD choices, honey. However, people have to realize what most people make and what median income is. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:07 PM Flag
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I do. My HHI is just a few 1000 $ above median income. I made some bad choices. I accept that fact and don't expect anyone else to bail me out of it. I'm just saying don't be jealous of someone who has more than you. It's not becoming [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:09 PM Flag
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I am not being jealous just saying the reality for most people. Stop putting words into my mouth. I was more criticizing the state of child care in this country and the change that has happened in the last 50 years that it has now become a luxury when it was not before. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:12 PM Flag
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2 things have heavily influenced what has changed. One is higher taxes. The other is higher expectations of what we "need" to live. The size of the avg starter home has tripled (I think - saw some stats months ago and it was huge!) in the last 50 years. Crazy what we expect just to have just because we want it and want it now [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:15 PM Flag
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What about health care? I live in 550 square foot apartment with stepson and dd and don't complain, but health care drives most of my decisions. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:19 PM Flag
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there are a lot of good ideas out there about how to fix that. I'm too tired right now to go into it but google free market solutions health care crisis orsomething and I'll bet you can find someething. Giving more power to the govt and taking more $$ out of our pockets is not the answer IMHO [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:22 PM Flag
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I am not suggesting that. However, the system is broken. The one thing that I feel like my family must have is that. I could never stop working because dh doesn't have coverage. FWIW, he did become a sahd for 1 year and, and we lived in Manhattan off of less than 50K and supported our family and dh's children from first marriage. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:25 PM Flag
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My DH staretd his own firm and it has been a long bumpy road, and now when we thought it would get easier, we are now waiting to see who gets elected before making the next step. We did what we were supposed to, save money, live in a small apt, pay off debts,a dn now to realize that we would have been better off living more like the avg American family with crazy debt is frustrating. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:08 PM Flag
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I'm sure it is. I hope everything will turn out ok and if Obama gets in, he won't do too much damage. I vascillate between feeling like everything is going to be fine and feeling like it's the end of western civilization!! LOL! I'll bet you guys will be fine since you have done such a good job of planning etc. We are in debt. Oh well. ;-) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:10 PM Flag
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We are at the edge- we are getting ready to buy a house, and will soon be in the debt trenches like everyone else! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:12 PM Flag
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yeah but house debt is ok. I (hanging head in shame) have manages to accrue some credit card debt. I just went back to work pt and we are working on it. Sigh. Again! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:13 PM Flag
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We just bought a new table because we could not keep using the chipped one that my fil had for 30 years- my dd could get hurt; dont hang your head in shame; people want nice things, and sometimes forget that you cant have all nice things right now! GL getting the cc paid off- you can do it! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:19 PM Flag
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thanks! Done it before and I know we will do it again. Just sucks right now. good night! ;-) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:20 PM Flag
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At this point, I do work. It was our plan that I would stay home after we have our second dc, we have a 9 month old dd, but now we may not be able to do that. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:05 PM Flag
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I wasn't criticizing you. The economy is bad despite what happens with the election. Above poster made me sound like I was flaming you. I hope that you can stay with your dcs. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:10 PM Flag
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flamer from above here - when you tell someone they are "lucky" it kind of negates their hard work and decision making. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:11 PM Flag
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Whatever, lady. I consider myself lucky too. I am telling you that most people don't have the luxury of that choice. End of story. IT IS THE TRUTH. You seem bitter. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:14 PM Flag
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I'm not bitter at all. It is not a luxury. It is something you work for and plan for. Or you do like I do and go into debt temporarily. It's a choice. We sacrifice a lot for me to SAH. It's worth it for us. I doubt you could live on what we do. Whatever. I'm lucky in the sense that I live in the USA and that we are all healthy. The rest we do ourselves [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:16 PM Flag
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Hmmm. I bet we do. I bet you'd be shocked at who we support as well. Stop talking like you know me. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:22 PM Flag
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LOL! point taken. I hate when people do that to me. Good night! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:23 PM Flag
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You too. I like a nice chat. Otherwise, it is boring. ; ) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:26 PM Flag
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Do all you people complaining about taxes realize that this is the first war in US history that we have had that we didn't raise taxes to pay for? It is also, consequently the first war that we have lowered taxes as well. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:13 PM Flag
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that's because the reps are as bad or worse than the dems about spending what we don't have. Just one reason I won't be voting rep this year (but I'm not voting dem either) [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:18 PM Flag
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np: GOP is no more fiscally responsible than the democrats these days, and money is spent on far worse crap. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:24 PM Flag
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exactly/ Well not worse but just as bad. They all need to go on a fiscal diet. I say vote them all out of office! [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:25 PM Flag
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So tell us what are you going to cut? [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 07:28 PM Flag
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huh? Obama's tax plan is moving to the right so you're going to vote for McCain? That makes very little sense. [ Reply | More
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General Topics 07.13.08, 06:52 PM Flag
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